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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:14 am

    First topic message reminder :

    I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

    The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

    Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop 🛑 the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:30 pm

    If someone understands what Disclosure is really disclosing, they would know he would never allow it.

    It always has been about consciousness.

    He would never allow a world where his ego is diminished.

    Go ahead and watch.

    Here is my prediction.

    He will blow up the election:

    - Martial Law
    - Black Shirts activated
    - Before you know what will happen, his supporters will flood the streets
    - Russia will do something to support him
    - Military coup will occur and they will split between go or stay
    - China will support the left, Russia the right

    He can’t lose, his psychopathy won’t allow it.

    He’s in big trouble if he loses.

    Prison.

    The corporations won’t allow this I hope.

    I hope the military can resist him.

    Neither will wallstreet.

    There are more on our side than theirs, it will likely be some form of civil war.

    The left will never yield.

    EVER

    They are smarter than the deplorables, a big evolutionary advantage.

    The hatred of the Other, blinds the deplorable.

    I think you will have to pick a side and fight for it.

    I choose the world with Trump gone from it.

    The republicans have positioned themselves for this.

    They have usurped Lincoln’s party and the Dixie Democrats have been scheming since reconstruction how to bring this about.

    You will never hear a peep from Trump about Disclosure.

    The UFO nutty nuts have no idea what’s happening around them or what’s coming.

    Keep looking for your leakers and papers while the world blows up.

    Oh brother.

    Call me crazy, I know.

    I should work for QAnon I can pump out those conspiracies with the best of them.

    Blessed are the Fools and Merrymakers.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:54 am

    “I tell you a story that can’t be spoken
    And hide it from observers when I say it.

    Except for your ears, no one hears my story,
    Even though I tell it amongst people.

    Aren’t things said without words in dreams?
    I speak that same way when awake.

    I only moan in the bottom of the well.
    In the placeless, I spill secrets about the sorrow of you.”

    —Rumi

    When the muppets are away
    Oh how the smelly goat will play
    He speaks from nowhere
    And hopes no one stare
    In the end his bones
    Will blow away home

    Ashes Ashes Ashes

    The more ones claim to have understood
    The farther they will wander
    Meaning does not come from understanding
    Only trouble
    You must escape the chains of understanding
    To know anything at all

    We grope in confusion
    How do we learn to learn
    The way we see
    Obscures the way of learning
    We must find a lens
    To learn how to see

    To be comfortable in confusion
    Is to accept it is beyond understanding
    So few will yield and stand in not knowing
    But some👂
    Some follow their I love you
    Some hear the music

    AHA

    What is most important
    Is what is closer than
    Anything else
    Your Self
    Science can not verify
    A first person view

    I have faith that meaning is beyond understanding.

    In fact, I know it.
    Science is fine, but forever incomplete.
    For you cannot observe thyself.
    Never will it happen.

    “Look how close your soul is to mine
    Everything you think about, I know

    Friends know each other’s inner self
    I wouldn’t be a true friend if I didn’t know”

    —Rumi

    I know and love you as myself.

    There is no such thing as the other or another.

    I see in you what I feel blazing in me.

    I desire to know myself more than any other desire.

    And the price is death.

    The 🐍 moves down into darkness.

    But Anubis brings you back up through death.

    We have absolutely everything wrong in this upside down world.

    Where the down rush meets the up rush, you find love.

    Our cups runneth over with love.

    Where great darkness rises, so does love.

    In between is the still point of the ever turning wheel.

    Love is attention and connection.

    The Sphinx guards the wheel.

    A hand extends from the sky.

    All are welcome in this house.

    The House of the True Heart

    (Take that Deplorables)

    This is why smelly goats exist.

    To remind you, yuh don’t know shit.

    🐐

    You must make an ally of the opposite confusing force once met, or it becomes a Demon that will rip your life and world apart.

    Smelly is my great ally.

    My true self of the heart risen from the abyss.

    Called forth into being by a foolish man who knew not what he was doing.

    It turns out, stumbling around in the dark naked as a fool is just what the Dr ordered.

    If I tell yuh a secret, promise not to tell?

    I’ll just mention where I met smelly goat.

    I was puking into a bucket.

    Wrenching my guts out from psychedelic tea.

    The most potent stuff on earth.

    I took the chance of dying and going insane to know my depths.

    Have you?

    Guess who met me at the gates of the abyss?!

    Smelly, but not the little sweet 🐐 you meet here.

    I saw smelly in his imaginal form.

    A terrifying beast of a Goat, sitting upon his flaming throne.

    Surrounded by flaming eyes staring into me cackling.

    He said you wanted to see and know and now you have.

    Stop by anytime he said and I’ll eat your heart one bite at a time.

    And every time I wretched and closed my eyes crying, wishing to god for it to stop, it wouldn’t.

    Later, I asked one of the elder psychedelic masters about my vision and they were surprised and said, it happens.

    The psychic force you met was real, as real as us standing here and you showed courage venturing into the darkness blind.

    That’s what the flaming eyes were, a gift granting you true vision.

    You met your self and now you must face it or it will forever chase you.

    I haven’t run, but I stumbled back in surprise at the power and force of this vision.

    How could I ever forget seeing smelly goat in his true form?!

    I met the Devil.

    And the Devil is me.

    I guess I should be locked up.

    I am dangerous.

    But here I am fooling them all.

    Living my little smelly life.

    Smelly and I smoke in the garden together and remember that fateful night we met and cackle together and sometimes he shows me how sharp his teeth are and I show him my horns and red tail.

    😈
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    Post by 99 Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:53 am

    - Before you know what will happen, his supporters will flood the streets ~ smelly

    I don’t entirely agree with this sentiment because I think it’s one of those inarticulated fears that’s on the back of everyone’s mind but are afraid to say it just to unconsciously keep the deplorable s at bay from flooding our streets in an act of arrogant and gallant defiance against those who are not one of them.

    Fascism is a step-by-step process. It’s been said that it’s like the plucking of a chicken one feather at a time before it’s full fledge version becomes an indisputable reality.

    And when that happens, the public consciousness will have already processed the inevitable where many, in fact, will be waiting in the wings, armed to the teeth to defend our Democracy.
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    Post by Foot Mann Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:46 pm

    The Chicken has been Bad. It makes the Princess Sad. Her Foot is rather Mad. How will he ever Escape? Soon there will be a Gape. The Chicken will Shift Shape, and then he will Escape. Run Chicken Run!
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    Post by hobbit Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:53 pm

    Foot Mann wrote:The Chicken has been Bad. It makes the Princess Sad. Her Foot is rather Mad. How will he ever Escape? Soon there will be a Gape. The Chicken will Shift Shape, and then he will Escape. Run Chicken Run!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCv40x3CZlc


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    Post by dan Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:50 pm

    chick 🐥 sees daylight for the first time in 17 days.
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    Post by 99 Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:34 pm

    Do my eye's deceive me or am I really reading the words of our dear Dan Smith fully restored in flesh and blood as an active poster on this forum once again?

    That this day has finally arrived leaves me in a state of complete and utter joy! What more can we ask for? He's back and ok and thank G-d for that!

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    Post by 99 Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:40 pm

    This is indeed a very good day!
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    Post by dan Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:28 pm

    Well, I thank you, 99,

    And it’s nowhere near as good as is for chick 🐥 to actually be back.
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    Post by 99 Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:50 pm

    Ha, ha! I bet! Welcome back Dan and have a chocolate fudge sunday! You deserve it!
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    Post by Foot Mann Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:35 pm

    It took a lot of work behind the scenes to free the Chicken. I hope his freedom is worth the effort.
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    Post by Cuan Scott Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:48 pm

    Welcome back Dan!! Very Happy

    Glad you are ok and well

    I agree with 99

    Tis a most excellent day with your return Smile

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    Thank you for your efforts in restoring chick to his place here Very Happy
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    Post by dan Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:33 pm

    Stuff happens,  

    It was definitely a portal experience...... on my bucket list since forever.

    My Alameda/Halloween lockup was the Ritz, by comparison

    How easy it is to get caught in the cracks of a bureaucracy run amok.   It happens all the time, of course.  

    On the other hand 🖐, anyone can get free room and board by walking into an emergency facility and declaring a spiritual emergency 🚨, and saying that you are Jesus....... just don’t expect to get out in a hurry.  

    Relax, says Chivo goat 🐐........ Hmmm 🤔.......

    And don’t tell debbie that my best friend, Kenny ‘bang-bang’, was carried out on a stretcher this morning, with a biohazard ☣ sign on the door 🚪.  Theoretically, foot 🦶 says I’m supposed to be immune. debbie may not be.  She’ll let me home 🏡, as long as I social distance...... not terribly new.  

    Now get this, sports 🏀 fans 💗, foot 🦶 tells me not to talk to Kevin, and turns around and tells Kevin to call me....... typical.  

    This came just after I had to hang up on FTGM for not sufficiently appreciating his illustrious role in the BPW 🌎, being a source for the chick 🐥...... who could possibly ask for more?  Only FTGM..... forward thinking great mind.  

    Basically, I’m on for a September Surprise....... where chick 🐥 is donny’s Hail Mary.  Who could possibly resist?  

    It’s only fair. I did blind side him with my ever so sneaky chick 🐥 🦠. Poor donny......

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:39 pm

    Thought they would keep you longer.

    Oh well Wink

    How bout you just relax muppet.
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    Post by dan Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:59 am

    1000z........

    Good morning 🌞, America 🇺🇸........

    We’re dealing with at least three silos, here........

    1.)  the foot 🦶 silo,

    2.)  the FTGM silo, and

    3.)  the chick 🐥 silo.  

    Is the chick silo not covered by the previous two?  

    Technically, it is so covered, but........

    chick 🐥 has a unique handle on the Metanarrative/metaphysics......


    1440........

    In concert with Princess 👸 and Kevin A, we have more than enough ammo to have Disclosure.  The whole show, and the election 🗳 to boot, rests on my goddaughter and my Montana snow ❄ bank 🏦 friend.  

    But why do we even need donny?

    Maybe we need donny to help secure the cooperation of foot 🦶& 👸.

    🦶 has so tied his career to donny that donny necessarily comes along with 🦶& 👸...... it’s just how the cosmic cookie 🍪 crumbles.  

    Someone told me I should continue to use plain text, in addition to the icons, because some browsers, especially international browsers, don’t pick up the emojis properly.  Is there any truth to this?  

    Disclosure/election 🗳 is a folie à quatre..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_à_deux#Biopsychosocial_effects.

    ‘Reality’ is a folie à 10^10, as per RAW..... of cosmic trigger fame.  

    Rest assured that it is the only possible folie = the best possible folie.  

    All this folie business goes along with the Trumpocalypse business.  

    It looks like the cat 🐈 is in the bag 💼, sports 🏀 fans 💗.

    This is our minimal package 📦 deal...... use it or lose it!  

    https://youtu.be/WANNqr-vcx0



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    Post by hobbit Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:16 am

    Everything is fine across the pond with Your posts Dan, You OK?

    I hope Donny realises how much ridicule is been hurled His way? here across the pond.

    It's a strange reaction You get when You try to defend Him.

    I like the Donny.

    My senses I trust to.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:27 am

    More of the same silliness.

    Smelly just has no time to waste with distracted muppets.

    Enjoy your convalescence.
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    Post by dan Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:32 pm

    1930z............

    hobbit,

    Have you ever spoken with Scott?  Scott is also a fan of donny’s.  

    There is something very polarizing about donny....... you either love him or you hate him.  

    I haven’t heard of anyone who is indifferent 😐 about him.  

    And why is he better liked by Brits than by Yanks?  

    ‘Tis a conundrum.  

    Allegedly, and for some unspecified reason, donny is said to not find my vacation in the looney bin to be amusing.  I’m supposed to come up some penance to appease his royal 👑 orange 🍊 ass...... my ass, donny!


    2020...........

    And there was a phone 📱 call in the looney bin where someone mentioned about there being two more NYT articles.  I had forgotten, so now I’m perusing them.......

    Mead.......
    Belief has to do with matters of faith; it has nothing to do with the kind of knowledge that is based on scientific inquiry. … Do people believe in the sun or the moon, or the changing seasons, or the chairs they’re sitting on? When we want to understand something strange, something previously unknown to anyone, we have to begin with an entirely different set of questions. What is it? How does it work?
     Hmmm 🤔....... Gee whiz, grey lady...... how does chick 🐥 work?  

    If you can answer that one, you’ll know how God works........ not because chick 🐥 = God, or anything crazy 😜 like that, for Heaven’s sake, but because God is a person, just like you and me.  

    And, while you’re at it, dear Lady, please explain why it took you seventy years to put your ear 👂 to the rail...... when it comes ufology.  

    Never mind....... chick 🐥 will explain it for you...... exactly why the best possible news paper 🧻 missed the best possible story for seventy years.  

    Yes, Ufos 🛸 are a joke, and the joke has been at the expense of all of those of us who take ourselves so.... so.... so seriously 😳.  

    Welcome to the funny 😆 farm...... where I’ve been, for the past two and a half weeks.  

    And, oh yes, God also happens to be a drama queen 👸....... so get over it....... get used to it, sports 🏀 fans 💗!!  

    But, hang on, the jguy did kinda take his self seriously, much to the continuing consternation of smelly goat 🐐 👦.  

    And, then again, as chick 🐥 recalls it........ the final Buddha is supposed to be the laughing 😂 Buddha........
    A recovered death note dated to 916 A.D., which the monk himself wrote, claims that he is an incarnation of the Maitreya, the Buddha of the Future.
     Hmmm 🤔...... we don’t say.  

    See, sports 🏀 fans 💗......... we’re all gonna die laughing 😂.  

    Which reminds me of the joke that my aunt muffie used to tell..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Only_Hurts_When_I_Laugh[/quote]

    Did witches sometimes die laughing?  Not all pundits agree...... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_burning#Ritual_child_sacrifice_in_Carthage

    As we fall back into the Source...... after we fall through the event horizon, we fall through the cosmic Fire 🔥 wall.  We’re soon gonna find out who is right....... the chick 🐥 or the pundits 👨🏫.  

    I mean, really, so we singe a hair or two..............


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    Post by Cuan Scott Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:54 pm

    Dan,

    I'm really glad you are back safe and ok. Mum sends her best too.

    No I haven't had the opportunity to speak with Hobbit as yet, but would love to. Hopefully I can get a chance to do so as Hobbit and I are in relation to US geographical distances positively neighbours!

    I think Hobbit would be a great tour guide for my next trip to Brú na Bóinne.

    Hobbit - if you are up for a chat, I will ping you a PM on here with my number.

    As regards Potus, I am with Hobbit I think he is doing a good job at least in terms of what we see and hear.

    I agree with your comment though he is a polarizing figure. Love him or hate him.

    There again is it not the case that with any strong figure and position that is taken they will be perceived as good or bad?

    I have been thinking about the political situation, as whilst the issue is most visible globally in relation to US politics it is in my muppet opinion a global wide issue.

    Perhaps despite Potus' efforts, which appear highly positive it is not him, nor his political position or the actions he has taken (I particularly applaud his efforts to remove the US from overseas conflict and seek Peace) which make him polarizing.

    Could it be the electorate?

    Perhaps it is the mob as I gather they where seen as in the past?

    Look at what happened with Brexit in the UK?
    I even witnessed on a rare moment of watching television around the time a senior political figure in the UK say something akin to 'We aren't having it, we are seizing power..'

    Mob rule anyone?

    Did not the Greeks provide democracy to the Western World? and did not one of their wisest, Socrates I gather, suggest it wouldn't work?

    Perhaps he was right and we have been living under the impact of a poor choice ever since.

    Perhaps it is the electorate who need to change.  ALL of us.

    I sense personal responsibility is a good start. Ultimately leading to not 'Your way', or 'My way' but a 'Better way'.

    The problems are not yours or mine, they are ours.

    All of ours

    I think Pythagoras highlighted this but alas we decided to take a detour, maybe that ultimately will be for our own good. who can say!

    Maybe everyone needs some 'reframing' of the problems we collectively face and philosophy seems the best, perhaps, the only option to help facilitate this?

    I guess being the dumbest muppet on the board I will use a simple analogy for what I see.

    There is Jam (In the US I believe you call it jelly) needed to make a sandwich

    I sense that's where the chicken comes in..Smile
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    Post by dan Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:15 pm

    2315z........

    Scott,

    If we can survive Orange 🍊 Man 👨, we can probably survive an escahaton...... or two.

    The person who most impressed me was the nurse 👩‍� I encountered on the B2 level....... where they brought in the mostly female prisoners from the county lock 🔒 up.  They would arrive from jail strapped to a stretcher, screaming 😱.  They would would be given a sadating shot, and then strapped to ‘bed’ in one of the three confining cells.  The door 🚪 would be left open.  I was allowed to peek in.  

    After about an hour, the individual would be untied.  

    At that point, she would would get up, and walk around the cell.  

    Nurse ‘Cathy’ would be watching from from behind the glass partition af the nurses’/guards’ station.  

    The patient would come to the open door, and look around, with the three of us watching.  

    The patient would take three slow steps beyond the door frame.

    At that point, the nurse and large guard would approach the patient.

    The nurse would stand in front of her.  This face off could last for up to half an hour.  

    At some unspecified point, ‘Cathy’ would reach out and turn the patient, ‘Jennifer’, around, and ask her to return to her cell.  At this time, the cell door would be double locked...... top and bottom.  

    A light was on in the cell, with the TV 📺 usually on the BET channel.  

    This procedure would be repeated as needed.  Eventually ‘Jennifer’ would be given a ‘pass’ to the common shower room.  

    So went my three nights in the CIU (crisis intervention unit) at GBMC...... all at taxpayer expense....... and the meals were not that bad, but not quite as good as the gourmet dining, just up the hill at Sheppard Pratt, where I spent my last three nights....... with the total being seventeen.  

    It was the Halloween, 50th Reunion, Sausalito marina escapade where I got to spend only one night in the padded cell.  That one was partially on my own dime.  

    Oops....... I haven’t yet received my hospital 🏥 bill from S-P/GBMC.  Medicare should cover most of it.  


    0030......
    Princess, I just finished reading the recent two NYT ufo 🛸 articles.

    We may need to pull the xxxxx cruise 🚢 forward.

    Do we really care if donny wins or not?

    I sure don't.



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    Post by Cuan Scott Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:25 pm

    Well I am going with my intuition and it tells me to trust the chicken
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    Post by 99 Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:39 pm

    Ditto on that one Cuan!
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    Post by dan Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:34 pm

    Thank you, 99 and Scott .......
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:24 pm

    The Chicken has not been humbled and has learned nothing from his brief sojourn it appears thus far.

    A pity, for the world is new every second and so are we.

    Woe to those who can only repeat the words of the past.

    Don't ever follow the crowd, if such occurs, change paths immediately, this is called, making a Crazy Ivan.

    Any Trumper is an evil prik and I shall not associate with said scum.

    The level of stupidity of every word from the orange turd is all one needs to know to never argue with a deplorable admirer, just slowly back away and if you are in a group of them, throw a grenade and run!

    Go your own way, that is truly the only way.

    Muppets follow each other.

    Follow no muppet and that goes double for chickens. - The Dude
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    Post by hobbit Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:41 am

    Scott,

    Will have to check My phone account to make sure about what it costs.

    newgrange was not a burial chamber, it was a portal chamber.

    it was part of a geometric complex, and light should not enter the chamber at solstice time( which has nothing to do with when the sun rises and sets).

    Nobody dies, and our ancestors knew the journey between vehicles ( Your body) and sought to return to their tribe.

    Spin, spin.

    the portal chambers were insulated akin to wilhelm reich accumulators.

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