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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:14 am

    First topic message reminder :

    I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

    The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

    Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop 🛑 the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......


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    Post by 99 Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:03 pm

    Spaceships are portals into other worlds

    Ezekiel’s wheel within a wheel vision

    Anti-gravity machines with 4 gyroscopic torques

    Incorporation of the number 80 on some level means divine intervention in one’s quest for success in their endeavor

    80 Amps to open a portal

    Also, GBMC’s longitude is near 80 degree’s

    Deep level basement room with steel door acts like a Faraday cage to block electromagnetic fields.

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    An Ezekiel's wheel in space came out of black hole... interesting footage.




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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:50 pm

    The muppet struggles to make sense of nonsense using language.

    Language is the repository of tacit knowledge.

    Tacit or intuitive knowledge is not consciously known.

    Muppets can’t help literally seeing an object given our wetware.

    To a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

    To a muppet, everything looks alien/other.

    But the person‘s perspective is the anchor for the object.

    A nonsense object is caught in our very limited sense net.

    Every single description we have in language is of tacit knowing.

    So if one heads to the basement, the objects disappear.

    The connection is accomplished in the basement, not upstairs.
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    Poor fools, so distracted.
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    Post by Foot Mann Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:53 pm

    Jesus in a Box, thought he was smart like a Fox, he tried to escape, was squished like a grape, and now he is back in the Box.
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    Post by hobbit Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:45 am




    Even dragons can't see Me when i wear the ring, it may take a team effort to free the chick.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:02 pm

    Hobbits can resist the evil of power better than most so they say.

    Or one old English guy wrote at least Wink

    They tend to be conspiracy theorists though, they will believe most anything, no one is perfect Wink

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    Post by Foot Mann Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:39 pm

    Yesterday I advised the Chicken to act normal if he had any hopes of being released. Today he said all was going well. He had convinced two of the guards that the Princess is an alien and the psychiatrist was on board with the core story of three alien visitors with the Princess being Queen of the Alien Hive. He told the maintenance person that if he would boost power in his cell, a portal would open and he would descend into the underworld. The maintenance person asked if the portal would then close.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:10 pm

    Bahahahaha

    I cannot think of anything more humiliating than to be locked up by rational apes and have to describe my fantasies to them in order to be evaluated as normal or not.

    I would assure them, I am not nor ever will be normal, nor will the chicken.

    His incarceration might be permanent, eeeeeeekkkkk!

    Normal, you mean, conditioned slave?!

    I would advise the chicken keep his big mouth shut and his paranormal thoughts to himself.

    If he can spin fast enough, he might be able to get through the wall.
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    Post by hobbit Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:45 am



    If Dan wants to open the prison door, He should think of it been open and walk out.

    This is the basis of been a dowser, You have to be able to focus totally , attune to whatever desired.

    The key to all is within.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:34 pm

    I miss wrestling with Dan.

    He was a good opponent.

    I have enjoyed my time.

    I apologize for his rudeness.

    Something inside me just wouldn't let this go.

    The only thing we have as far as free will is what we choose to give our attention to.

    The only thing any of us loses in death is the present moment.

    We naturally are born and die.

    Only children fear what is natural.

    When a dog goes rabid and only bites, we must be patient with it if we allow it to live.

    We can be infected by rage.

    There is a cure.

    Surrender.

    "Nothing is more melancholy than to compass the whole creation, ‘probing into the deeps of earth’ as the poet says, and peering curiously into the secrets of others’ souls, without once understanding that to hold fast to the divine spirit within, and serve it loyally, is all that is needful. Such service involves keeping it pure from passion, and from aimlessness, and from discontent with the works of gods or men; for the former of these works deserve our reverence, for their excellence; the latter our goodwill, for fraternity’s sake, and at times perhaps our pity too, because of men’s ignorance of good and evil–an infirmity as crippling as the inability to distinguish black from white." --Marcus Aurelius

    The Stoics can help the Chicken now, no matter his situation, he should listen to the voices in the desert.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:37 pm

    "Were you to live three thousand years, or even thirty thousand, remember that the sole life which a man can lose is that which he is living at the moment; and furthermore, that he can have no other life except the one he loses. This means that the longest life and the shortest amount to the same thing. For the passing minute is every man’s equal possession, but what has once gone by is not ours. Our loss, therefore, is limited to that one fleeting instant, since no one can lose what is already past, nor yet what is still to come–for how can he be deprived of what he does not possess? So two things should be borne in mind. First, that all the cycles of creation since the beginning of time exhibit the same recurring pattern, so that it can make no difference whether you watch the identical spectacle for a hundred years, or for two hundred, or for ever. Secondly, that when the longest-and the shortest-lived of us come to die, their loss is precisely equal. For the sole thing of which any man can be deprived is the present; since this is all he owns, and nobody can lose what is not his." --Marcus Aurelius
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:55 am

    Does our cup runneth over or is it empty?

    Both seem like curses to me as a final state.

    Thankfully, we always are vacillating between too much and not enough.

    Our leaders are insane and corrupt and scared.

    The lunatics are marching and shouting on TV over each other saying nothing really.

    The heroes are made of paper and burning.

    The ones with resources have sold themselves out.

    These are dark days, no doubt.

    Like nothing I’ve ever seen.

    We live in the ripples of time.

    We were warned for 40 years.  

    Since I was born in 1972, I have lived in a hollow world.

    Turn the light down maybe someone or off.

    I’m glad I never had a child.

    I’d have loved being a dad though if the cosmos had cooperated.

    My only regret.

    Never know how it might turn out, can’t say never.

    This is a personal view of all this.

    All I got.

    I can’t give anyone any facts about disclosure.

    I know no leakers.

    I know no secrets.

    I can’t talk about UFOs or aliens.

    I have no documents.

    I have no theories or academic letters or papers.

    I have no influence or connections beyond my own heart.

    I’m not bitter at all being this.  

    I’m the luckiest goat on earth.

    I am beholden to nothing.

    I am neither enabled or held back from anything.

    I see I have the complete power over my boat now.

    I have a portal that can take my boat anywhere.

    ⛵

    This goat is at play in the mind of the cosmos.

    I can’t stand politics or ideologues or fundamentalists of any creed or none.

    They have given up, chosen sides.

    I guess I’m just the wrong goat for the job.

    The bad warm up comic or band.

    Or was Dan my warm up act?

    Is Dan out of luck?

    Are we out of time?

    Are we bankrupt?

    Big questions.

    No answers.

    I was thinking about the pre-trump world.

    Part of me is glad this racial nationalism has been exposed.

    It’s toxic evil stuff 😈

    Love wins.

    It always wins.

    When the armies are destroyed and the bankers bankrupt, love still wins.

    When we are soaring high on greed, love wins.

    In my life, love wins.

    It simply wouldn’t let me down.

    It would let me be the worst version of myself for that moment of realization.

    When I saw a usurper had inhabited my life.

    An imposter.

    A shadow.

    That accuser and whisperer and thief and doubt and guilt.

    But love caught my eye and I haven’t stopped gazing at its pure beauty.

    Such a glimmer.

    I am not special of course.

    I have just been bedazzled.

    Who knows love?

    I can’t say I do.

    It only astounds me.

    Stupifies me and even silences me.

    I don’t mean the sappy romanticized love, I mean I will die for you love.

    I will take a bullet for you love.

    My life for you kind of love.

    That kind of love I can’t describe beyond how it seems to move and stir.

    I can’t describe the 🔥 it raises in me.

    But here is the thing, and pay attention, cause attention is all we have.

    I am not a republican or democrat, or an american, or a dualist or monist, or a christian or atheist.

    I’m a Human Being.

    But we don’t really have words for what a human being is.

    I’m searching for other Human Beings.

    It’s a lonely road.

    Fear is here too.

    We all stand together or surely we will all hang separately.

    Funny, if I had a son or daughter, I’d say these same words to them.

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    Post by hobbit Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:07 am

    El chivo,

    I have a son and a daughter.
    My son is 46 and is highly intelligent, He doesn't have children and is very self orientated.
    my daughter is 43 and has four children, She is like a mother hen.

    my son reckons I need locking up.

    My daughter listens, and doesn't judge.

    I have lived in the best of times, a teenager in the sixties, motorbikes and young girls ( I may have more children?)

    This is the end of those times, the technocrats are attempting a global takeover.

    I do not like the view of the future.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:52 pm

    You are a nutter, but I love you anyway Wink

    I love crazy people.

    Though I don’t like identity or nationalistic politics at all.

    Here’s to the MAD ONES!
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    Post by hobbit Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:56 pm

    El Chivo wrote:You are a nutter, but I love you anyway Wink

    I love crazy people.

    Though I don’t like identity or nationalistic politics at all.

    Here’s to the MAD ONES!

    It all depends on how You define "MAD"
    And of course the opposite...normal...sane.

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    Post by hobbit Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:02 pm

    MAD appears to be derived from mercury poisoning in the fur industry.
    Rather apt as mercury is said to be in vaccines?

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    Post by Foot Mann Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:20 pm

    The Chicken has been Moved. His life has Improved. The shackle have been Removed. Of much he has been Accused. His insanity has was Bemused. If released we will all be Abused.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:53 pm

    Every stick always has two ends.
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    Post by hobbit Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:26 am

    Foot Mann wrote:The Chicken has been Moved. His life has Improved. The shackle have been Removed. Of much he has been Accused. His insanity has was Bemused. If released we will all be Abused.


    I bet they have thrown Him out , He will have driven them mad talking endlessly.
    They will not have been amused, as He bamboozled them with words.

    We should prepare fresh straw for Him to rest upon, and feed Him lots of spaghetti, chicks love that they think it's giant worms.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:21 pm

    He needs a 🍷 IV stat.

    The idiot Trump believes every conspiracy theory but UFOs.

    Because the phenomena proves Trump’s whole life and all his beliefs are lies and idiotic.

    He has chosen his path...poorly.

    All atheists and religious and secularists are sleeping.

    The religious are saying the vaccine will change their faith.

    This demonstrates the great fear at work in the world.

    Incredible fear.

    We have to stand with the fear and the morons.

    But he will do all he can to hurt all of us because of the hate he has for himself.

    This is an insane world.

    Great conditions to awaken yourself though.

    That makes the worst conditions the Best Possible conditions as they lead to the best possible awakening.

    What do we awaken to?

    That we each are speaking with ourselves.

    That each of us is enough.

    That being a Human Being means being responsible.

    Nothing too mystical really.

    Mysticism is just a shroud over the self.

    An obfuscation.

    Using Occam’s 🪒, the pods/tictacs observed must be Chinese or some other countries.

    I think it’s US tech and the entire UFO lie is meant to cover up our tech.

    If that’s true, someone has great power.

    That would corrupt any muppets connected to the tech.

    Utterly.

    That’s the break away group.

    Go ahead, break away.

    Buy bye.

    I don’t want your evil tech.

    Smelly goat does not follow the other moron muppets using their mind and senses and logic, the great filter.

    That won’t work.

    Ever.

    We have been conditioned well.

    You have to go deeper muppets to break your confusion.

    We will see how they spin it.

    Follow the bouncing ball.

    Watch who benefits.
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    Post by 99 Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:08 pm

    Most recent info on Trump and UFOs.......

    Trump says he's heard 'very interesting' things about Roswell, site of an alleged UFO event

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-he-s-heard-very-interesting-things-about-roswell-n1231521

    The president was asked by his eldest son whether he would declassify information about the New Mexico location.

    President Donald Trump says he’s heard some interesting things about Roswell, but he’s not sharing even with his eldest child.

    Trump made the comments Thursday in a Father’s Day-themed interview with his son Don Trump Jr., hosted by the president’s reelection campaign. Don Jr. wound down his interview by jokingly asking his Dad/President if he would ever divulge more information about Roswell, the New Mexico city known for its proximity to arguably most famous UFO event — “and let us know what’s really going on.”

    Trump responded, “I won’t talk to you about what I know about it, but it’s very interesting.”
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    Post by 99 Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:17 pm

    Also, it should be noted that if ufos are US tech., apparently, not even the Pentagon is in the loop on that.... but I find that hard to believe.

    Very odd that even in this day and age, they are still keeping secrets from us.

    Also, Trump will do everything in his power to delay the election. If whatever he's doing about that has even a remote chance of succeeding, he'll get the support he needs to follow through with it. This is what scares me.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:18 pm

    Trump would never let anything go public that would minimize his status, EVER.

    He only makes transactions that benefit him, just look at his history, h's a total fraud and conman, a perfect patsy and front man cause he always lies.

    And he always wants to screw the other person, he wants to screw America and all of us living.

    He hates us.

    He hates he is not the only ONE.

    Really, he is the ego totally comprised by shadow.

    He will NEVER green light a Disclosure.

    He DOES NOT WANT muppets awake.

    They would step right by him.

    I'm afraid we have to stand with Trump too.

    As far as it being our tech, it would be a group totally secret that Dan has hinted at as an example is my theory.

    But why would they show their hand?

    So likely it's foreign.

    But if we know who did it, we would have a target and they don't want us knowing.

    I'm sure the intelligence community knows what it is and is controlling all public info release.

    We know that they will lie to us and nothing public could be the real story.

    A few facts are buried in the shit to give the shit enough sweet aroma to pass for grade A bullshit.

    It is an interesting mystery, I have to confess.

    But what happens outside can never compare to the joy of realizing yourself.

    Trump or lack of disclosure not happening doesn't need to disturb us if we are complete within ourselves.

    Nothing compares with the joy of paying attention.

    Disclosure has already been accomplished by Gurdjieff and ones like him and me Wink

    The intelligence agencies are run by nationalist mystics, a deadly group, mostly fascists.

    They hate individuals.

    But we are here waiting for you all.

    My smelly opinion and I happen to be a damn good guesser so far.

    Wanna know what's been disclosed, you have to listen to this and let it work on you.

    It will never ever come from the government, ever.

    This destroys the govts.

    This destroys the world as we know it, good riddens.

    You can count on one thing about what they will disclose, LIES.

    Come on Foot, think we are all crazy idiots, go ahead and think such, that is our great advantage.



    The Daimons/Dragons won't lie to you if you come to them humbly.

    They will give it to you straight.

    None of us are leaving here alive.

    Tough deal.

    Eternal recurrence?

    Keep dreamin.

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    Post by 99 Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:43 pm

    If Trump has info we don't have on Roswell, if it means more votes at election time, he'll inform us about it in one way or another regardless that his "informers" have warned him about talking about it to ANYONE.
    Winning the election is the most important thing to him. For Trump, it's the only thing that matters.

    But if he really doesn't know anything and he's lying... we'll know that's the case when no information on this matter is shared by him to the public. I think that this is most likely the case because TPTB would never share such information like that with someone like Trump. lol

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