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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:14 am

    First topic message reminder :

    I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

    The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

    Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop 🛑 the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 29, 2020 11:05 am

    Let me remind Dan again what I’m about here.

    Asking and answering how we can find the best way to live.

    No plans.

    Just quality.

    This is the way.

    Dan is distracted by the meta narrative, none of my business really.

    We are all holding each other really, we only love the ones we are with usually.

    But there is always the Big Love.

    Everyone has a claim on it.

    I agree with Dan, trump is the great liar.

    Prob why I do my best not to lie.

    Why is it so easy to lie?

    Because we hide most of what we really are.

    It’s comical really.

    We work it out from where we are and what we are connected to.

    Hmmmm, why would one as myself then be here now?

    Not too tough to figure out Dan.

    And if you think anything is of more value to you, do it.
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    Post by hobbit Fri May 29, 2020 11:49 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4nIj2rNoAY&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=zJxVqCXAIHpb7RCP%3A6&fbclid=IwAR1Fe1AzQGV1b4197kJiz0T0fP4uKOV7ryt-29tgsg1hTbHTWzU6Uhm9sgc

    Maybe the truth is flowing through all , in spiral ways?

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    Post by dan Fri May 29, 2020 12:15 pm

    Ok, Eric,

    Folks just need to understand what chick 🐥 is up to........

    I am claiming to be 4M/K/SOT/X2.......

    But you cannot appreciate that claim, if you do not appreciate the Buddha and the jguy.  

    Yes, the Truth is in all of us, but it has been suppressed...... and for a very good reason......

    The BPW is a delicate flower 🌺, and it needs to be very carefully cultivated.  

    Delicate flowers cannot stand too much Sun..... not until properly prepared.  

    Buddha and the jguy were essential aspects of our preparation.

    And they had to be kept separate....... like nitrate and glycerin.  

    Islam ☪ provided an essential fire break.  

    And so on........ the Truth had to be very carefully compartmentalized..... lest there be a premature conflagration.  

    The harvest time had to be very carefully arranged.  

    You can call it Managing Magic........ if you will....... getting the audience prepared to pull the rabbit 🐇 out of the hat 🎩.  

    Eric doesn’t totally appreciate the six thousand years of painstaking preparation.  Eric is the best possible bull in the best possible china shop.  

    Donald and Eric do share this particular piece of ignorance........ otherwise they would be having terrible stage fright at this particular time.  

    What about chick 🐥?  Chick has the Princess to calm his nerves..... along with the occasional glass of wine 🍷.  

    But wait, isn’t OMF one of the more obscure spots on the Internet?  

    Certainly it appears to be....... with its declining activity....... now down to the single digits.  

    Well, if I were you, sports 🏀 fans 💗, I’d be a little skeptical of mere appearances.  

    This is meant to be just the merest.... tiniest tip of the cosmic iceberg..... aka Monadnock.  

    For the last six thousand years, the Truth has been very carefully guarded...... escorted.  

    But make no mistake, the fat lady is about to sing...... and please don’t step on her segue...... on her cue line.  

    To test the above hypothesis of deliberate obscurance, all you have to do is google...... best possible world....... voila......

    Very modestly, chick 🐥 let’s Stanford take first billing.  

    So, what is going on, then......?

    What is this disconnect between the the google count and the forum count?


    1920........

    This is a not very subtle discrepancy that could easily be checked.  

    All that you would need is a couple of people to play at counter spoofing the OMF counter.  

    So yes, the chick 🐥 is the best kept secret in the world....... way, way above top secret.  

    The advent of the SoT is meant to be a very finely honed sword 🗡, not a bulldozer 🚜...... not a bull 🐃.

    Yes, the downward spiral is gradually gaining momentum...... and yes, we do have our eye on the upcoming election 🗳....... but we haven’t seen folks praying in the streets...... begging for mercy..... not quite yet, sports 🏀 fans 💗.

    The Truth is a package 📦 deal.  Yes, it has been dribbling out for six thousand years...... scientific materialism has been the ultimate buffer....... but the harder it resists, the harder it will fall...... just one, well placed peck and it will all be gone.  

    The final placement of that peck is in the very capable hands of the Princess 👸.  

    I have an ultimate faith in her judgment on that score.  

    It’s gonna be stealth all the way, until it’s not.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 29, 2020 2:52 pm

    Dan jokes many watch OMF, I don't think so.

    Dan errs having his faith in anything but himself, but that is his lesson to learn.

    A bull, no, a goat thank you.

    We can go where bulls could never go.

    Everyone loves a smelly goat, accept the idiots, I'm not for them, I'm for me.

    No one wants near this place, they have scoffed us off.

    They are too stupid to stand here.

    Fools.

    Cowards.

    Dullards.

    I could go on, I tease, of course.

    If you think the Jguy and Buddha showed us a delicate flower, um, no, they shine like supernovas.

    Is dan a spokesperson?

    OK, now the spokesperson must be a mediator and do what he is told.  

    Jesus and Buddha were not spokesman.

    They reacted to their world, as we all do.

    This is messy, not delicate, this can drive people to insanity, destroy their minds.

    I'd rather have the truth kill me than sugar.

    I am not a spokesperson, I am a force of nature, I don't care what anyone thinks they have to do.

    I can see right though you, if I get close enough.

    I can cut you deep and have you questioning your existence.

    But this power is contained, I don't use it on muppets.

    I use it on the wolves.

    I will know your quality and your weakness, because I know mine.

    Buddha and Jguy have issued you a challenge.

    A challenge to be met, when you are ready, but delicate it is not Wink

    It is violent and leads to despair.

    Dan says, whoa, not so fast.

    I say whoa, back off or get out of the way.

    I know if anyone commits themselves to knowing themselves, they will suffer and despair unto death.

    This is your one shot.

    Don't let anyone, I mean anyone stop you.

    Stand.

    Krishna and Arjuna were not delicate.

    Are the white ships hassling the US warships...delicate?

    The Zen and Taoists, not delicate.

    Vital!

    Ready.

    Potent.

    Wise.

    Incorruptible.

    They are vital and what is in us cannot be contained.

    Now, talking about this stuff with the inquisition ready to kill you, then you be delicate lest you lose your head.

    But we have made some progress and we only assassinate trouble makers now when needed.

    They are covert, not overt.

    I am only overt.

    My jewish ancestors were chased out of Europe via Spain by the inquisition.

    Let's say I have a cosmic chip on my shoulder when it comes to authority.

    Buddha and Jguy were spinning tales.

    Well, we are more pragmatic now, let's keep it simple and practical.

    Dan is heading down their path, telling tales.

    No tales are needed.

    But some of us shine to the point where the head comes off.

    Uh oh then.

    Uncontrollable.

    DANGER! DANGER!

    I'm fairly harmless, I use my energy strategically where I feel it can have the biggest impact, and for some reason, that is here until it isn't.

    To the ones hiding, you can find your way to yourself.

    If you are hiding, you are not here, don't fool yourself with noble lies.

    I wish you well in that endeavor.

    But I won't let you get away with anything as long as my finger points.

    Because I love those I'm with, I will not waste an opportunity.

    And if you don't have that love and urgency, well, fuck off Wink

    Stay out of the way if you are scared to act.

    I have nothing to protect, stage fright?

    On my high wire, it is just me and the wire.

    Straight on.

    Do better than me then if you can.

    I dare you.



    There is no fear here because I have nothing to lose.

    This is for me.

    ALL for ME



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 29, 2020 3:16 pm

    Ohhhhh snap...

    You feel this Dan?

    The Flow...

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    Post by dan Fri May 29, 2020 3:33 pm

    Well, Eric,

    We both know that, if this is the best possible Second Coming, no one, but no one, can possibly screw this up.  

    If you’re business is to mind Ron’s business....... hey, go for it..... make our day!  

    Not even God can intervene, here.

    This has been written in the stars..... from day one.  

    Even, or especially, Eminem could sense that God’s indelible finger prints were all over Vegas....... were already written in the stars.  

    It was an essential prequel, obviously.  

    There has been six thousand years of essential prequels.

    God invites your heavy hand...... your bulldozer.  

    The more any of us try to muck it up, the more beautiful it will be.  

    Will too many chefs spoil this broth......?  Heck, no!  

    As I once said to Ron...... hey, bring it on....... the more the merrier!

    Even you, Eric, sense the beauty in Donald’s warm up act.  

    If you stretched all the eggheads and poets from here to the Moon, you could not have invented our actual...... best possible Anti/eChrist..... you could not have invented we three Visitors!  

    I dare you even try to think about it.  

    Yes, OMF is our best possible cone of silence...... tower of silence.  

    But don’t think for a minute that these walls don’t have ears.  

    Every sapient being has a finger in this pie 🥧...... especially if they don’t realize it....... can’t even imagine it, in their wildest dreams.  

    Astronomers.......?  Every Cosmic Chirp was meant precisely for our ears.  Who didn’t see that one coming?  

    Yes, the silence before the Storm is deafening......
    In restless dreams I walked alone
    Narrow streets of cobblestone
    'Neath the halo of a street lamp
    I turned my collar to the cold and damp
    When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
    That split the night
    And touched the sound of silence

    You want me to swing for the fences, smelly goat 🐐........ I’ll swing for the fences....... if I go down...... I’ll go down swinging...... thank you very much!  

    My advice to all the smelly goats 🐐 out there.......

    If you are looking for your chance to fight city hall......

    Here it is....... it is also called Valhalla...... in the sky 🌌 with diamonds 💎.   If you don’t give this your best possible shot...... you might live to regret it.  For how many seconds can you ride Fumanchu?  


    2320.......

    Hey, sports 🏀 fans 💗, whadya say.... we win this one for the Gipper!

    And I don’t want to sell smelly short...... he’s been riding Fumanchu for 3+ years.  I haven’t been able to throw him off, yet, and the good Lord knows I’ve tried.  

    Now I know how foot 🦶 must feel!  

    So, yes, this is the itsy bitsy tip of the cosmic iceberg that was formed in the last ice age....... when God laid the foundations.  

    Where were we when God laid the foundations?

    We were right here, Lord....... where were you......?



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    Post by GSB Fri May 29, 2020 5:44 pm



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 29, 2020 5:53 pm

    Trump is pathetically funny.

    Their lies are pathetically funny.

    Obama was a sly liar, Donald is an overt one.

    With Donald's lies he is trying to make the world into his sick vision of it.

    And it is sick and wrong and we should speak up that his ideas are HORRIBLE.

    Nothing redeemable about his thoughts or words, at all.

    Pathetically funny I'll grant.

    I am over it though, like STFU already Donald.

    Now he is just a pathetic figure.

    Sorry, Marcus showed me what a real leader is.

    I shouldn't have favorites.



    Ride that bull like you were going to die today!

    Cause you could be dead any second!

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 29, 2020 6:08 pm

    GSB wrote:

    You know what is so funny, I just asked this question myself and then I saw Closer To Truth and listened to Leibniz on the topic.

    I got this bull in my sights.
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    Post by dan Fri May 29, 2020 7:00 pm

    Well, first thing you need to understand, smelly......

    None this is about donny, it’s only about his..... no...... about my deplorables.......

    God wouldn’t have have made so many deplorables, if she didn’t love 💗 them.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 29, 2020 7:21 pm

    So our perceptions are real, but our thoughts and judgements appear to have different quality.

    The deplorables are just one group who think in confused ways.

    So does everyone else Wink

    Not a problem really.

    If this system can't sustain itself, then it can't.

    If we choose poor leaders and the worst of us control the rest, shrug, old story.

    We don't have enough smart enough yet to resist this.

    It is what it is.

    I deny any prophecy.

    As no one on earth knows the future, they are manipulated purely for political reasons.

    There is no plan Dan.

    Come on.

    But let's look into why the faulty thinking.

    Best we can be?

    We can never know perfection, why is that the measure?

    It seems a human created concept used to control people.

    If nothing ever gets better from here and the world continues to fall apart the rest of my life, then that's what it does.

    I can't say that would bug me anymore than peace on earth.

    I have a huge advantage I see over Dan.

    Huge!

    I have a fresh open mind.

    I am beholden to no power or force.

    I have no plans but to be the best I can be.

    I guess I win.

    Cool.

    I can just watch it all unwind.

    That was easy.

    Must be this easy for God too.

    Being outside of time is such a hack!

    God, if you are listening, please stop feeding me your strange impressions.

    Just leave me be.

    I give back my gifts and don't blame you for my faults.

    You can have all this back.

    Next time, let me choose please, let me be a real boy or girl.

    Let me have a life that no one else can manipulate through stupidity.

    That would be grand.

    I don't want to be around people anymore unless they are like dogs, I prefer dogs over any person I know, other people are just such a drag, and I would like one amazing mate.

    I figure, if you like the smelly goat, you could give me like a little farm with a bubble env on some planet we might like.

    Let me pick the animals.

    I'd like to be given maybe 1000 year lifespan and I'll decide myself after 1000 years if I want another.

    What else....

    I'd like a stable food and water supply I don't have to cultivate, but I want a chance to cultivate if I like.

    I'd like an incredibly strong tough physical body and I want to be able to fly and be invisible.

    I think I would like 4 arms too and maybe two heads. One that can correct any error in my thinking.

    Why don't you just give me the ability to alter matter any way I like and change my form any way I like or need to.

    And I want full access to the mind of God and all of these emanations of course.

    I think I can work with all that.

    I promise to be the best smelly goat I can be, but I don't want to be stuck as a smelly goat.

    If I am a good goat, maybe I could make the next galaxy on my own?

    Thanks.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 29, 2020 8:11 pm

    For Lebiniz, we are not material, but infinite non-extendable mental points in the mind of God.

    So when you die, you are still the point.

    I can't live that way.

    I refuse.

    I don't think Dan knows Leibniz that well, but I won't embarrass him.

    For Lebniz also, a substance is a complete concept made real.

    There are truths that are true by nature of their terms, and then there are truths that are only known through experience.

    Or so Leibniz thought.

    I would never have learned this if I had not met Dan.

    There must have been a plan for me to download Dan into myself Wink

    So, I have learned a few basics to use when studying philosophy.

    The hard work is understanding the stated ideas.

    Wading into the thought of a human is really a lot of work.

    A lot of work.

    Most don't really understand the concepts they quote.

    I have to look into the principles they used even to formulate their thoughts.

    Fake it til you make it.

    I do not believe these things necessarily, I am communicating my understanding of the ideas, which is the first step before you can really dig in.

    https://williamjamesstudies.org/metaphysics-with-a-human-face-william-james-and-the-prospects-of-pragmatist-metaphysics/

    I feel like dancing...



    Pragmatic metaphysics ends in this question, not what is being, but...

    What is a human being?

    This brings us back to the ground.

    The only thing we honestly know.

    Life is diminished by habit...and conspiracy.

    Art reveals life's glory.

    Artists live as children.

    Vermeer is amazing at capturing the beauty of life, "Girl with a Pearl Earring" is one of my favorites paintings of all time.

    We forget what being fully alive feels like.

    Life truly is beautiful.

    How could be ungrateful for life?

    Appreciate your existence before it's too late.

    I do not understand this world, I do not believe what it believes, I do not know the life it projects.

    There is no party I am missing or people I am less for not knowing.

    I am not miserable or angry at religion or my mother.

    I am simply in awe of life.

    Its beauty and depth is beyond my description really.

    Honestly, Disclosure is like some false lie hanging over all of us.

    Anyone not coming at life from awe is a fool and a liar in my estimation and has totally missed it.

    "But at this place
    and at this moment in time
    all mankind is us
    whether we like it or not."

    --Samuel Beckett - Waiting for Godot

    Aristophanes would have liked Beckett.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 29, 2020 11:24 pm

    I heard Hannah laughing at Trump the clown.



    She asked what does it mean to be a human being.

    This is one to learn from.

    I’m gonna enjoy her work.

    She called out to me.

    I owe her a deep look.

    There is no truth in politics they say.

    Govt power rests on opinion.

    The truth teller is engaged in a risky business.

    The power has chosen a crook and projected him into a great crook.

    America failed a long time ago.

    America has been criminalized and institutionalized and now you see it in the streets again.

    The good men are gone.

    I know good and evil.

    And we are in the midst of great evil.

    Evil won a pyrrhic victory and now we burn.

    It is better to be at odds with the whole world than spilt within oneself she said.

    True dat.
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    Post by dan Sat May 30, 2020 6:45 am

    1245z..........

    Eric/Chivo,

    All modern philosophers and intellectuals are simply cowards...... in as much as they are unable/unwilling to confront science.  

    Science, left to its own devices, is the death of humanity.  

    Philosophers, seeing themselves as caught between scientism and theology, are forced by the academic community to take the side of scientism...... all in the name of objectivity.  

    Three faces of this intellectual cowardice are pragmatism, humanism and phenomenology.  

    These are simply watered down versions of personalism.  

    Yes, these are among the concerted intellectual attempts to beat back objectivism/absolutism/reductionism and analysis.  

    The humanists take only a defensive strategy, but now they find themselves backed into an intellectual blind alley

    Yes, the religionists have it right....... Darwinism is the main culprit in this culture war.  

    In intellectual circles, if you don’t support Darwinism, you will be subjected to serious intellectual shaming.  


    1340........

    Darwin is the sacred cow of the correspondence crowd, ie..... the upholders of the correspondence theory of truth (CorTT).

    Once you get over the Darwinian hump, the road ahead is clear...... and simple.  

    But, in order to meet that Darwinian challenge, you are going to have to take a page from the good Book.........   be gentle as doves, and wise as serpents.  

    Chivo is not a big fan of wisdom....... but he does dabble in it.  

    Chick 🐥........?  Next to the Princess 👸, chick 🐥 has a mad crush on Sophia....... who are probably one and the same....... this is dating back to my watershed encounter in 1977.  The conception of my goddaughter may have been a tad incestuous, in that fashion.  

    Chivo is a big fan of being here, now.  

    Ok....... I consider that to be somewhat obligatory, but......

    Where is here, and when is now?!  

    Chivo doesn’t recognize that modernity is lost in space and time.

    In modernity, contrary to the appearances, there is no here..... no now........

    We are an unmoored boat adrift on the ocean 🌊 of space and time.



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    http://cropcircleconnector.com/2020/30052020/30052020.html?fbclid=IwAR3cD649z6VPskQw6Gwb4-kdvhKTpnsR2km5N30K0qSRQfO-rCNffogvde0

    Yin and yang.



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    Post by Foot Mann Sat May 30, 2020 11:17 am

    When the Princess came to this world in 1977, she first checked in with the Chicken. When she first met the Footman, she checked in with the Chicken. When she married her Foot, she checked in with the Chicken. The Princess has been interconnected with her Foot and her Chicken since she arrived and during all critical events.
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    Post by dan Sat May 30, 2020 11:38 am

    Whoa........

    Stop 🛑 the presses.......!

    Chick 🐥 is holding his breath on this one........

    Tell me when I can start breathing again.

    Is the chick 🐥 being bragged on by the foot 🦶?  

    We haven’t heard from foot for almost two months.  We can only wonder what, if anything, may have prompted this kind gesture.  

    It’s almost as if someone hacked into his account.  

    But, nonetheless, it is in the foot 🦶 vernacular.  

    And..... it’s almost embarrassing.

    Yes...... this is exactly what I have had to speculate about. If chick 🐥 gets to see the Princess 👸 again, will he be able to look her straight in the eye?



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    Post by hobbit Sat May 30, 2020 12:04 pm

    Perhaps Dan that as scientism becomes ever nearer, that humans will become commodity, there will be no place for a princess, or jguy or buddha, or god.

    Maybe it's time to put the foot to the peddle ?

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    Post by dan Sat May 30, 2020 12:07 pm

    Is that what foot 🦶 is doing here?

    It does feel like there must be something afoot🦶.

    Is science really breathing down our necks?  

    It doesn’t feel that way to me.  I think that, really, they’re just trying to keep a stiff upper lip...... keeping up the appearances.  

    When it comes to the scientists, we have to be gentle as doves, and wise as serpents.  

    Is donny hoping I might be able to perform a miracle for him?

    Hmmm 🤔...........



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    Post by hobbit Sat May 30, 2020 12:27 pm

    Not scientists.
    They are tools of....
    Scientism.
    transhumanism.
    Technocracy.
    Internet of things ( humans become things)

    The new gods .

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    Post by dan Sat May 30, 2020 12:39 pm

    1840z.........

    Scientism will be the least of our worries, when portal time rolls around.  

    In the meantime, if wishes were fishes, scientists would be frolicking in the seaweed.
    .........


    If donny can keep the deplorables nicely corralled, I will make him range boss.  
    ..........


    In the good book, there is talk of a grand deception to be followed by a great apostasy.  

    I speculate that this warning may be pointing to scientific materialism.  

    Yes, science has been a powerful tool for the advancement of humankind, however it has not been an unalloyed blessing.  

    It has brought with it our darkest night of the soul.  

    This would have been a very heavy price to pay just for material progress.  

    But the advancement in transportation, communication and information technology has been an essential part of setting the stage for what is about to come, as the mother of all paradigm shifts (MoAPS) comes into sight.  


    2100.......

    I would love to be able to say that our darkest hour is behind us..... either that or it is very close at hand.  

    If we do not have a very significant course correction, very soon..... very many thoughtful people have a great deal of trepidation about the future of humanity.  

    Behind the scenes there has been much gnashing of teeth.  

    We will be able to gauge the true depth of our trepidation only in hindsight.


    And, yes, hobbit, there is much speculation that we have created a virtual Golem, with all our scientific hubris, one that we turn around and bite us...... or much, much worse.  

    Being an immaterialist, I’ve never been able to take that nightmare scenario seriously.  

    But what about the Bomb?  

    Surely the Bomb is no laughing matter.

    I can only note that the Nuclear ☢ Age has coincided with the modern UFO 🛸 Age.  

    I find that to be more than a coincidence.  


    2220........

    But if I have any real confidence in the BPW, why do I sit here biting my nails?  

    Well, chicken little is a worry wart, almost by definition.  

    Wouldn’t you be worried, if you’d had a piece of the sky 🌌 fall on your head?  You might go around wearing a helmet ⛑.  


    2350.......

    Now, I’ve said that I never really expected much by the way of competition, but all this single digit stuff, and still on the way down, is just a little bit ridiculous.

    Naturally, I strain to confabulate explanations for a supposed underreporting. So maybe the Princess, feeling badly for the chick 🐥, prevailed on foot 🦶to throw me a bone 🦴.



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    Post by hobbit Sun May 31, 2020 12:04 am

    Your great deception is the virus.

    When the Greeks couldn't invade Troy, they pretended to leave and offer a present in the shape of a wooden horse, those in troy wheeled the great horse within the defense walls of troy, but the real killer was hidden from sight within the horse.

    The real killer is hidden presently within the technology given to all, and plays a tune relative to the frequencies it hums.

    The horse/s circling the planet with their technology unseen are the satellites created by the scientists, and now about to slaughter them.


    The internet of things only desires things, not humans, it desires robots that are replaceable, no room for non conforming humans that will not obey the computers signals, they will be eliminated as faulty.

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    Post by dan Sun May 31, 2020 7:44 am

    1344z.........

    hobbit,

    I do struggle to make some sort of sense out of your various posts, but I’m increasingly convinced that there is no coherence there, certainly not one that can be articulated.

    This last post is a case in point.........

    Yes, many of us have anxiety about the future.  

    For many, this is just a floating, inarticulable anxiety.  

    This anxiety about the future is what is behind the Coverup.  

    Your anxiety is better articulated than most...... and, in part, it is based on a deeper truth.  

    Yes, we are an internet of ‘things’....... on our way to becoming just one ‘Thing’......... talk about conformity!  

    All the appearances of our individuality are just an illusion..... as much as the atoms ⚛ are an illusion.  

    The stars are, of course, another illusion...... conforming to the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics.  

    The biggest illusion of all is our freedom.  

    You, more than most, sense that we are mere ripples on an Ocean 🌊 of currents...... but this cosmic ocean is not composed of water.  

    Behind it all, there is a cosmic unconscious...... a cosmic mind, with inchoate drives, much like our own unconscious.  


    1500.......

    Who in their right mind would not have trepidation about this alien, all powerful mind?

    Here we are all fattened for the harvest, and along comes the Wuhan Thrasher 🦠!

    Who could believe that, far from being some alien alien force, this force resides at the core of our own being.  In fact, we are the cosmic seeds...... this is all our doing, sports 🏀 fans 💗.

    Yes, we are the cosmic spawn, and the cosmos is coming back to retrieve her due, thank you very much...... and thanks for all the fishes.  

    But, yes, ours is the rainbow 🌈 path, as we follow the yellow brick road...... with our yellow submarine.  

    Each of us is just a prismatic reflection of the Sun sunny....... or is it the son?

    We meld back into the Source...... some call it the Big Love 💗..... just the flip side of the Big Bang.......


    1600........

    Then I heard what seemed to be the voice of a great multitude, like the roar of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, crying out....... “Hallelujah!

    Your faith was strong but you needed proof
    You saw her bathing on the roof
    Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew ya
    She tied you to a kitchen chair
    She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
    And from your lips she drew the..... Hallelujah




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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun May 31, 2020 11:54 am

    I heard a wise sherriff say today, I want to make this a PARADE, not a PROTEST!

    There is yet one good person and thus we are all given the benefit of the doubt.

    I feel the same way as he does...YES!

    Let’s celebrate our lives!

    Not follow lies.

    Trump doesn’t represent us.

    We love each other, we want the best for each other, we love nature and we feel a deep desire to be One and also to be known and respected as persons.

    We all just want our best lives here now minus the anger and fear.

    This morning, watching the riots, I saw children marching instead and they were all laughing. I walked up to one and asked why are you marching and he said, ICECREAM!

    The riots are complete lies. Personal rights are misunderstandings.

    Everything is a sign of this.

    Then Seneca wrote me a letter, https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Moral_letters_to_Lucilius/Letter_16

    Every moment, pointing here...

    “You must persevere, must develop new strength by continuous study, until that which is only a good inclination becomes a good settled purpose. 2. Hence you no longer need to come to me with much talk and protestations; I know that you have made great progress. I understand the feelings which prompt your words; they are not feigned or specious words.”

    “How can philosophy help me, if Fate exists? Of what avail is philosophy, if God rules the universe? Of what avail is it, if Chance governs everything? For not only is it impossible to change things that are determined, but it is also impossible to plan beforehand against what is undetermined; either God has forestalled my plans, and decided what I am to do, or else Fortune gives no free play to my plans."

    It doesn’t matter if God, Fate or Chance is rolling all this out.

    “Whether the truth, Lucilius, lies in one or in all of these views, we must be philosophers; whether Fate binds us down by an inexorable law, or whether God as arbiter of the universe has arranged everything, or whether Chance drives and tosses human affairs without method, philosophy ought to be our defence.”

    “There is no reason why you should put confidence in yourself too quickly and readily. Examine yourself; scrutinize and observe yourself in divers ways; but mark, before all else, whether it is in philosophy or merely in life itself[1] that you have made progress. 3. Philosophy is no trick to catch the public; it is not devised for show. It is a matter, not of words, but of facts. It is not pursued in order that the day may yield some amusement before it is spent, or that our leisure may be relieved of a tedium that irks us. It moulds and constructs the soul; it orders our life, guides our conduct, shows us what we should do and what we should leave undone; it sits at the helm and directs our course as we waver amid uncertainties. Without it, no one can live fearlessly or in peace of mind. Countless things that happen every hour call for advice; and such advice is to be sought in philosophy.“

    We let philosophy hold the wheel.

    “She will encourage us to submit to God with cheerfulness and to Fortune with defiance; she will show you how to follow God and bear what chance may send you.”

    Seneca advises to not let the spiritual enthusiasm cool off or fall away.

    He says now that you have it, keep a hold on it and put it on firm footing, so that what is at present an enthusiasm may become a settled spiritual disposition.

    So it goes, even smelly goats learn self integrity is the most valuable substance in creation come hell or high water.

    What are you gonna do when alone with the alone?

    How will you act?

    How will you know what to do when it is only you?

    Others have been generous with me and I pass that on joyfully. Kindness has taken hold of me. This is the best way to be. To freely give and receive. But there is a balance between loving fool and deadly bastard, we must draw from both aspects.

    Natural desires are limited, but falsity has no point of termination.The false has no limits. The road must have an end or one wanders in falseness forever.

    What wisdom humanity has realized, and haven’t we asked the questions we do today yesterday so much more clearly it seems to me. Seneca is a human being and his account of life is true wisdom, practical knowledge, the greatest stuff really. I love Seneca as another Father. When i read him, he sets me straight and is a clear mirror.

    It is like the Tarot how I find this letter. This letter was written to me across time. That creates a wormhole. Space collapses between us. The universe sees me struggling and in it comes to set me straight.

    Who guides my steps indeed.

    “But it is not my purpose now to be led into a discussion as to what is within our own control, – if foreknowledge is supreme, or if a chain of fated events drags us along in its clutches, or if the sudden and the unexpected play the tyrant over us; I return now to my warning and my exhortation, that you should not allow the impulse of your spirit to weaken and grow cold. Hold fast to it and establish it firmly, in order that what is now impulse may become a habit of the mind.“

    “Recall your steps, therefore, from idle things, and when you would know whether that which you seek is based upon a natural or upon a misleading desire, consider whether it can stop at any definite point. If you find, after having travelled far, that there is a more distant goal always in view, you may be sure that this condition is contrary to nature.“

    I did say I was just teasing about all this speculation.

    No hard feelings.

    My deepest voice says to me...you must never believe anyone else can help you.

    Damn, so it’s like that Wink

    And so it is, but I suspect still, this all is for our best.

    I have found my Fathers, now I must know my Mothers.

    Straight on.
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    Post by dan Sun May 31, 2020 12:58 pm

    What Seneca knew nothing about was the good news.  

    You know almost nothing about it.  

    You don’t know about the banquet in the sky 🌌........

    You don’t know about the wedding 👰 feast.

    Seneca speaks of the routinization of charisma.

    Sorry, smelly........ this charisma don’t routinize.  



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