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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    Topic reminder.......

    We’ll see whether this thread disappears or not......


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    Post by GSB Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:26 pm

    Footman: "No time for the Chicken to bake a Cake."



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:10 pm

    Foot and crew can suck on my goat farts.

    **goat farts**

    And a big fart to that moron Ack Wink

    The BPW is where the denizens of hell are close to heaven as they’ll get and low as those in heaven can get to hell.

    He made a good nutcake.
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    Post by dan Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:29 pm

    Water levels rising in the Lake. Time to pull up Stake. No time for the Chicken to bake a Cake.
    Chick 🐥 has all the time in the world 🌎

    I apologize for Chivo 🐐. He is trying to show off for Marissa....... been there, done ✅ that.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:32 pm

    With goats you get what you get.

    If you suck on goat farts u will trip hard.

    ..

    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again; but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

    The thing with messiahs...

    They are always false prophets.


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    Post by GSB Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:49 pm

    False profits ...

    U.S. crude prices dropped more than 100% and turned negative for the first time in history on Monday as traders continue to fret over a slump in demand due to the coronavirus pandemic

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/20/oil-markets-us-crude-futures-in-focus-as-coronavirus-dents-demand.html


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    Post by dan Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:40 pm

    To follow up on my contention that personalism is much more prevalent than what you might gather from a narrow perusal of it under just that topic, one might begin with Heidegger’s Dasein.  

    That topic led to...... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_Western_philosophy .
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:21 pm

    Profit is evil imho corporate or personal, as is capitalism in its current form.

    As is control of natural resources, the resources don't belong to anyone.

    Pay it all into a common pot and let smart wise groups of people distribute it.

    Most muppets are too dumb and distracted to manage their own wealth and we have nothing but wealth.

    They were conditioned to be consumers, not rich.

    Look what the rich do, they hide wealth, evil.

    That others suffer being poor is a failure of all of us, not the poor.

    With no options, they turned to drugs and we blame them for being poor drug users.

    They were made poor.

    OSHO solved the homeless problem, he put them to work, helped them develop self value.

    Myth of Jesus failed in this area.

    He sold them a lie.

    Historical Jesus to me is one of the most evil muppets to ever live or the most evil story or lie ever told.

    Conservatives are the most evil muppets on earth in their current mind, coincidence?

    No more single points of control of wealth.

    We don't need competition of systems of consumption.

    Only need enough to live.

    Party is over muppets.







    Don't take Dan's view alone about personalism.

    Do your own work and see what you think and feel about it.

    And if someone tells you they are a Messiah, the SoT, the Holy Spirit or some other aspect of deity, laugh at them and walk away slowly, grinning of course.



    The next vid from Dan and Smelly is going to be a little feisty.

    I'm not on Dan's page exactly.

    Makes for better discussion.

    Whenever we talk again, we will post our conf call HERE as it happens and if people show up, great, if not, even better.

    Install Zoom client to participate: https://zoom.us/download

    Cy, I have audio files if you want to broadcast on your mind mix radio, let me know.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:18 am

    https://youtu.be/xXHqoyFEo5M

    https://youtu.be/FesS3D-7o1g

    We put these two together, and we might have something......

    smelly came to OM searching for something.

    It took him three years to figure out that it was right under his nose.  

    This is what cosmic spontaneity is all about.  

    You couldn’t make this up, unless you had all the time in the world.  

    It’s like.......... personal.    

    Texting with smelly, about the best possible virus......
    The least always suffer most
    Kinda cruel

    Suffer?

    Like kicking a dog
    The dog didn’t do anything

    They got their reward that much sooner

    Good for them I guess
    It killed plenty of old musicians too
    They lived heavy lives
    So their suffering is over I guess

    They were needed in heaven
    For Disclosure
    .........
    An old cowboy went riding out one dark and windy day
    Upon a ridge he rested as he went along his way
    When all at once a mighty herd of red eyed cows he saw
    A-plowing through the ragged sky and up the cloudy draw
    Their brands were still on fire and their hooves were made of steel
    Their horns were black and shiny and their hot breath he could feel
    A bolt of fear went through him as they thundered through the sky
    For he saw the riders coming hard and he heard their mournful cry
    ........
    They are my troops
    Most of us are more harmless alive than dead 💀
    Ron knows that

    [a photo]

    Princess just sent this, calling me a two timer

    Ha
    Those are some scrawny chicken 🍗 legs

    They still get me around  


    10:50/ft/gmt-3.............

    Quote of the day....... for smelly......
    You stare at me and call me oppressed

    because of a piece of clothing.

    You don’t ask what I have to say,

    but judge what I wear with pride.

    I can climb mountains and cross oceans.

    My spirit is free from prejudice

    freedom that xxx gives.



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    The chicken dances.

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    Post by dan Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:25 am

    Ha....... that’s funny 😆
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    Post by hobbit Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:46 am

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/11435511/elon-musk-spacex-starlink-satellites-kosovo/

    I can see the riders coming hard.

    I can see them concentrating over specific areas.

    I can't see what frequency they are transmitting at, but can surmise, like hoof sounds.

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    Post by hobbit Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:13 am

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1221396/ufo-sighting-elon-musk-latest-spacex-news-solar-system-satellites-italy

    Northern Italy, what a surprise...not

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:19 am

    Distractions hobbit

    Pay attention
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:56 am

    Ahem......


    While walking by the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon (who is called Peter) and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea, for they were fishermen. 19 And he said to them, “Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.”[a] 20 Immediately they left their nets and followed him. 21 And going on from there he saw two other brothers, James the son of Zebedee and John his brother, in the boat with Zebedee their father, mending their nets, and he called them. 22 Immediately they left the boat and their father and followed him.


    Now we’re trying to start a 24/7, round the world 🌎 phone call...... zoom......

    The WoM/MoAPS is going to be a zoom/ telephone ☎ tag.    

    4:30/ft/gmt-3...........

    Are you ready for this....... the best possible global game of ☎ 🏷...... no fair hiding because we will find you....... sooner than later.  

    Anyone there?
    🌅 and shine.......


    9:10...........

    Tales from the loop....... from Bryan......

    https://youtu.be/1htuNZp82Ck




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    Post by whoknows Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:14 pm

    If you’re going to do this where others can participate you need to set a specific time and put in a link the meet. phone stuff? Even having used zoom much of late I didn’t even know you could do it that way.. Can’t think why.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:59 pm

    Thanks wk.

    We were trying to be spontaneous.

    We will publish scheduled zoom calls.

    Next ones will be open to anyone.

    We have a private group call this evening  and have 1-3 new vids coming.

    But folks need to just be ready to dialIn to zoom as we just publish random zoom calls.

    Dan is pushy.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:12 pm

    I do have a bee 🐝 in my bonnet.

    I didn’t agree to make this private.  

    I already have two surprise guests lined up.  

    So put that in your pipe........ medicine man!  

    We’ll be negotiating right up to the last minute.  

    And, anyway, this is supposed to be chick 🐥’s retirement party 🎉, so give me a break.  


    10:30.........

    I suggested that Princess put in a cameo this evening.  

    Her return offer was to host a GoToMeeting tomorrow noon 🕛, EST, 1pm forum time, 1600 Zulu, if I’m not mistaken.  

    Stay tuned, sports fans........

    And the topic....... I almost forgot...... the ‘Pandemic’!  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:59 pm

    I don't care who shows up.

    If you want to join the Zoom, come on now!

    https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8561051282?pwd=RTdxQXV2THBsK2RYZVZMdjBuT2lHZz09

    I am doing Zooms, she can join if she likes.
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    That is for those W.H.O don't understand what the starry starry night is revealing to them , but perhaps they never will????

    There are 60 million here in the UK imprisoned, let out for one hour a day.

    Whilst huddled around their wifi and smart devices, as the starry starry sky beams down at 60 ghz .

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    Post by dan Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:59 am

    This was the anxiously awaited showdown between the irresistible chick 🐥, and the immovable goat 🐐.  

    Not to put too fine a point on it....... the goat 🐐 won.  

    The gotomeeting is still on with the Princess 👸. I’m standing by for the details......... still looking at 1600 Zulu....... noon 🕛 here.

    Doug gives his best regards to our goat 🐐 friend, blessing his heart I love you.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:20 am

    Nothing really new, I’ll post the vids, just a rehash of Dan’s messiah complex and Princess love and the goat’s teasing.

    He has nothing without their story, which is what exactly?

    While I have everything right here.

    I am just a proxy and happy to represent my age.

    I have pulled myself out of the dregs of faith.

    I don’t think you can get around me Dan.

    Someone is going to have to blink.

    I swear to my dying breath, you will NEVER see this goat blink.

    Not after what I’ve faced down.

    Nothing short of death itself.

    So the only thing that will do is a complete opening of the gate.

    If you cry uncle, we will leave it on the field and part friends.

    The princess can reach me on zoom where the battle is being waged, or she can pick over the bodies.

    I Zoom, I don’t GoToMeetings Wink
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    Post by dan Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:11 am

    So, yes, smelly is not allowing the chicken to have his retirement party 🎉.  

    I guess I’ll have to die with my boots 🥾 on.  Hey, my sister died in the backwoods of Montana, on her snowmobile.

    We used to call that a party 🎉 pooper.  

    But, yes, I do need a witness or two.  


    2...........

    Five of us struggled with GtM and Hangouts, but only encountered continuing glitches.  We need the technical expertise of Eric.  


    4:45.........

    In retrospect, we might have been able to tough it through the pandemic, health-wise, but I don’t know that paying less attention to health aspect, would have significantly lessened the psychological impact.

    Could we really have passed the virus 🦠 off as a biological fluke, and gone on about our business as usual, avoiding excessive economic dislocations?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:23 am

    Ha.

    In the BPW goats do great tech support.

    But goats aren't so good with the meaning of existence.

    The meaning is always what's happening.

    It was good to have 2 new faces on the call.

    Nothing new really.
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    Post by dan Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:00 pm

    Yes, thank you Chivo 🐐, it was good to have more folks on with us.  

    Your technical guidance was much appreciated, especially with benefit of hindsight.  


    What may be hardest hit is our confidence in our continued material progress.  We, belatedly, come to the realization that, with modern civilization, we had already been overextending ourselves.  

    However, once the inevitable contraction begins, it is less than clear that we have a fallback position.  

    We might ask how Disclosure is looking, with this foreshortened perspective?  

    There have been no new signals from DC.  

    It would be difficult to argue that Disclosure would not just contribute  to what is already a very uncertain outlook.  

    Previously, I’ve been arguing that Disclosure had best come sooner than later.  Perhaps we are now seeing what ‘later’ looks like.  

    I would like to be able to say..... better late than never...... but that position has not gotten any easier to defend.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:39 pm

    Maybe accept and LIVE IN the BPW going with the Harmony?!

    The virus is very beautiful, as is our being here.

    Just be ready.

    It's a much simpler happy life.

    Disclosure isn't required at all besides what has already occurred imho.

    If you have more to say, I suppose you will have to try with another pretender.

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