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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:34 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    Topic reminder.......

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:23 pm

    Icke is a lunatic as far as I can tell.

    No offense hobbit.

    He is an absolute nutter who lost his way.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:29 pm

    Cy, thanks for the freeconcall, but it was too slow.

    We recorded with Zoom.

    We made our first kinda rambling vid, fun.

    Just Dan and I and the ole Monad.

    The best possible convo at the best time.
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    Post by dan Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:04 pm

    Yes,

    Chivo 🐐 and chick 🐥 had a lengthy, rambling conversation...... over an hour.  

    I can hardly wait until the next one.  They will be put online, with very minor elisions, when necessary.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:29 am

    El Chivo wrote:Icke is a lunatic as far as I can tell.

    No offense hobbit.

    He is an absolute nutter who lost his way.

    You are sounding like Dans apprentice trick cyclist.( grasshopper)

    There are countless mamils pounding the roads around here on their bikes.

    ( middle age men in lycra)

    When Icke first appeared on Tv after something happened to Him, he was ridiculed and called a nutter.

    I will have to look up why the word nutter?
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    Post by GSB Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:23 am

    You asked when UFOs became a cultural phenomenon, and I answered June 24, 1947. But I left off the second half of the answer. June 1947 was also the month that the Doomsday Clock first appeared on the cover of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. I believe there’s a link. At its most basic, what the UFO is about is death — the ultimate alien but also the intimate alien. Because your death is an intimate part of you. But it’s the most alien thing you can possibly imagine, or struggle to imagine.

    So it seems significant to me that UFOs became a cultural phenomenon when the possibility of the collective death of the species through nuclear warfare became real. It began to sink into people. It’s significant that it's enjoyed a tremendous resurgence since Donald Trump was elected, and the possibility of another collective death, through climate change, came a notch closer to reality. That has become something that haunts us.


    https://religionnews.com/2020/04/17/david-j-halperin-explores-the-mythical-reality-of-ufos-in-new-book/


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:27 am

    hobbit wrote:
    El Chivo wrote:Icke is a lunatic as far as I can tell.

    No offense hobbit.

    He is an absolute nutter who lost his way.

    You are sounding like Dans apprentice trick cyclist.( grasshopper)

    There are countless mamils pounding the roads around here on their bikes.

    ( middle age men in lycra)

    When Icke first appeared on Tv after something happened to Him, he was ridiculed and called a nutter.

    I will have to look up why the word nutter?
    Hobbit

    Just my personal opinion.

    He sounds insane.

    Dan and I sound insane too Wink

    We are all mad here.

    Don't get me started how insane you sound hairy footed friend.

    No one thinks our thoughts but us.

    It's a Mad Mad World



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    Post by hobbit Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:52 am



    I am proud to be mad, especially presently.

    Buffoons dressed in suits are locking up the whole population, the police are now jailers stopping anyone ( except the suits) from venturing out, only once a day allowed.

    I must be mad, as I don't buy this shit.

    Guess what????
    I bin fishin.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:57 am

    I am proud to be mad as well.

    We are the dreamers...

    We are where darkness and light have met in full embrace.

    There is no other way to be accept confused.

    Let it rip baby!

    There is plenty of room around for us all to go insane.

    I am a fisher of Humans.

    A tough slippery fish to catch.

    But I'm a natural born angler.

    The BPW is too easy.

    Like taking candy from a baby.

    If it all is the best time.

    Then the time is always now.

    There is nothing to wait for.

    Why delay the inevitable?

    I let myself fall into sweet embrace.

    What is this force that has caught me in my fall into the darkness?

    When I just didn't care anymore...

    Something caught me and said.

    Shhhhhh

    Enough little one.

    And it fed me at the edge of death.

    I drank deeply from the way.

    It filled my heart with fire.

    And cleared my mind of all that was combustible.

    What remains?

    Here there be Dragons!

    And I seek Human Beings.

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    Now we all fall down
    Let the forest hear our sound
    We fall
    We fall
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    Post by hobbit Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:20 pm

    El Chivo wrote:I am proud to be mad as well.

    We are the dreamers...

    We are where darkness and light have met in full embrace.

    There is no other way to be accept confused.

    Let it rip baby!

    There is plenty of room around for us all to go insane.

    I am a fisher of Humans.

    A tough slippery fish to catch.

    But I'm a natural born angler.

    The BPW is too easy.

    Like taking candy from a baby.

    If it all is the best time.

    Then the time is always now.

    There is nothing to wait for.

    Why delay the inevitable?

    I let myself fall into sweet embrace.

    What is this force that has caught me in my fall into the darkness?

    When I just didn't care anymore...

    Something caught me and said.

    Shhhhhh

    Enough little one.

    And it fed me at the edge of death.

    I drank deeply from the way.

    It filled my heart with fire.

    And cleared my mind of all that was combustible.

    What remains?

    Here there be Dragons!

    And I seek Human Beings.

    Timber
    Timber
    Now we all fall down
    Let the forest hear our sound
    We fall
    We fall


    the princess been sacrificed to the dragon????
    That will drive Dan MAD


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/magazine-25214557/welsh-church-uncovers-stunning-medieval-wall-paintings



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:39 pm

    I must confess BBQ knights are a treat.

    I like to roast them right in their armor where they stand, it cooks the meat evenly.

    Yuuuuuummmmm

    How nice of them to prepare themselves.

    See, Jesus was on a hunting expedition.

    Good little whelp baby Jesus.

    He was a real killer.

    But you should meet his brothers.

    They aren’t half as nice.

    How does a goat roast a knight you may wonder?

    I have 3 heads.

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    One loves to tease

    One carries a flaming heart

    And one a flaming tongue
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    Post by hobbit Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:57 pm

    Why do dragons blast You with flames???

    GLOBAL Warming
    , Your gonna burn , burn , burn.




    But You see I have become good friends with the dragons, and my father was called George.


    Lets see?????
    Heat = compression.
    cold = decompression.


    Every good fridge man will explain such.

    So good old St George did what???????

    Did He kill the dragons....no.

    He Earthed them to return into the underworld.

    Don't venture down there though, You will be chasing white rabbits





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:14 pm

    That's why we get along so well.

    Dragons don't burn hobbits.

    Maybe a few knights will show up.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:19 pm

    El Chivo wrote:That's why we get along so well.

    Dragons don't burn hobbits.

    Maybe a few knights will show up.


    just remember....what the dormouse said....







    Remember.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:46 pm

    According to Black Elk, "all life" is holy and good, and "us two-leggeds sharing in it with the four-leggeds and the wings of the air and all green things; for these are children of one mother and their father is one Spirit."

    Language is great to socialize with, but they can't describe reality beyond the world of language.

    Each language causes you to see the world following the structure of the language.

    "The world does not speak, we do."

    Are we just animals with no language?

    One creates their own final vocabulary to live in the time they live.

    One must be careful deducing universal truths.

    People setup camp with fellow thinkers and or feelers.

    How to get past appearances and access the reality of being?

    One always keeps doubts about their current vocabulary.

    Arguing doesn't help.

    Anything can be made to look good or bad when redescribed.

    This means that the best govt and system is one we all mostly agree on.

    Lead by example through irony.

    Ironic disruption is the way.

    We are removing limits now.

    Governors disengaging.

    Who has the best vocabulary?

    So the ironist can't ever take themselves seriously.

    At any point ones views may shift.

    Why talk to anyone who limits themselves?

    Walking the line between nature and culture is hard until it is easy.

    Solidarity in the time determines the best way then?

    This is the I AM dream where we can interact.

    Here we are real.

    Our story is real.

    All most of us know is the world as right or wrong, dualism.

    This is a dualistic world.

    It is what it is.

    But there is only wholeness.

    There is nothing for sale here.

    When the dream of you sleeps, your body goes on.

    It's very simple, if you start something, finish it.

    A man who chases two rabbits, catches none.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:15 pm

    Without further delay, please enjoy the first Best Possible World Dialogue with Dan.



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    Post by dan Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:33 am

    Chick 🐥 suggests that this is the best possible conversation about the best possible world, and it can only get better........

    This session was only supposed to have been a test, but, once we got started, we just couldn’t stop.  

    Yes, some conversations will be better than others, but each one will be the best possible for us, for the given time.  

    It will be rather like this blog, where, every day, we just get up and wing it.  There will be a lot of repetition.  We will develop a kind of short hand..... maybe our own language, with its own dictionary and thesaurus.  

    Hopefully, others will be joining in....... as the spirit moves.  

    Eventually, this conversation will be replicated around the world 🌎.  

    Goat 🐐 and chick 🐥 will have our own inside jokes that can be, or already have been, explained on the blog.  

    Folks can use google and Wikipedia to get acclimated.  

    Basically, every day we can summarize the best possible metanarrative.  

    Eventually, we’ll get it down to a few paragraphs.  

    And then we will be commenting on current events..... current events will become the main topic.  

    These are just my best guesses, off the top.  

    Chick 🐥 is ready to get going, right now..........

    We’ll be like the country preacher....... tell folks what you’re gonna tell them....... tell them....... and then tell them what you’ve told them.  

    Is this about right, chivo 🐐?  

    Is this what the doctor ordered?  

    This is to demonstrate how any two folks can get together to run the best possible world 🌎, in the best possible way.  That’s all.... no biggie.  

    Somebody, anybody..... tell us that we’re wrong, or start figuring out how you can join the party 🎉.  

    Will there be too many Chiefs and not enough Indians?  

    Just keep in mind that we’re all gonna end up at the same place, on the same page, sooner than later.  

    And what place will this be........?  

    Chick 🐥 bets that this will be the J place.  

    If chick 🐥 is wrong, please tell him...... sooner than later.  

    What does the goat 🐐 say, we all want to know.......?  

    Sure, it can be the J/B place, etc....... but we’ve gotta start somewhere.  

    Basically, 2&3 have given us license to kill.  

    Our job is to pass that license on to everyone else.  

    Get it....... got it..... good.......

    All we need is a global pow-wow..... a global meeting of the minds.  

    Ok, this is the WoM/MoAPS.  

    Be here or be square!  

    The main thing to keep in mind is that the Metanarrative has a core story, which is about the trinity, and how it is arrayed historically.  

    And then there is the current microcosm that we call the core story ..... about 1,2&3.  

    And this conversation is about disclosing the core of the core in the best possible way.  

    Tell us we’re wrong.  

    Tell us where a better story is happening, now.  

    Tell us that this is not good enough for gummint work.  

    And when we say gummint, we mean the one in the sky.  

    So, yes, sports 🏀 lovers 💗, this right here and now is kingdom come.  

    Get over it..... get used to it......

    Tell chick 🐥 that he’s all wet, chivo 🐐.  

    The proof is in the pudding 🍧.

    We’ll know the tree 🌳 by the fruit 🍎 it bears 🐻.  



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    Post by hobbit Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:34 am

    Eric looks like He is becoming father Christmas?
    ( bearing all the gifts of the BPW?)

    "Once We got started, We just couldn't stop"

    That's what the priest said as to why the nun was pregnant.
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    Post by dan Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:43 am

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    Post by hobbit Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:07 am

    dan wrote:ha


    Is that half a laugh?

    If the j guy pops back here will he be wearing a suit?
    Will he tell everyone what to do like these brain dead idiots are doing now?

    Or will He as before kick over their money lending tables and do his own thing?

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    Post by dan Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:51 am

    You tell us.

    What would be the best possible second coming?

    What would be the best possible core story, for right now?
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    Post by hobbit Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:29 am

    dan wrote:You tell us.  

    What would be the best possible second coming?  

    What would be the best possible core story, for right now?  

    That We are eternal beings, so if old covid takes You away so what.

    That We are all part of one.

    That We are here to experience...…..whatever.

    There may though have to promotion and demotion on a sort of league system, where if You are deemed to have caused harm to any other human You drop down to been a slug next time here.

    Promotion may be that You go up a dimension

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:32 am

    I was going for more a Wolf Man Jack look, but Father Christmas works Wink
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    Post by hobbit Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:09 am

    El Chivo wrote:I was going for more a Wolf Man Jack look, but Father Christmas works Wink
    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=peter+sutcliffe+pictures&qpvt=peter+sutcliffe+pictures&FORM=IGRE

    Never heard of Him this side of the pond, but here is someone known as the Yorkshire ripper....

    He is said to have gone around murdering prostitutes, it is said.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:51 pm

    Thanks Wink

    RIP Wolfman
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