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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:34 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    Topic reminder.......

    We’ll see whether this thread disappears or not......


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:25 am

    My best help to any I meet follows and it is no help unless you love this with all your heart and body.

    No greater image of god has ever walked the earth like Marcus Aurelius.

    We just had a chat.

    God I love that guy.

    “All is as thinking makes it so.”

    “The soul of a man harms itself, first and foremost, when it becomes, as far as it can, a separate growth, a sort of tumor on the universe: because to resent anything that happens is to separate oneself in revolt against nature, which holds in collective embrace the particular natures of all other things. Secondly, when it turns away from another human being, or is even carried so far in opposition as to intend him harm – such as the case in the souls of those gripped by anger. A soul harms itself, thirdly, when it gives into pleasure or pain. Fourthly whenever it dissimulates, doing or saying anything feigned or false. Fifthly, whenever it fails to direct any of its own actions or impulses to a goal, but acts at random, without conscious attention – whereas even the most trivial action should be undertaken in reference to the end. And the end for rational creatures is to the follow the reason and the rule of that most vulnerable archetype of a governing state, the universe.”

    All you have to do is keep your light lit and clean and as high as you can for any around.

    That is my only act before oblivion I would care to live for.

    I feel so dull when he is present.

    He has such a light like I have never seen.

    He didn’t share his truth in word during his life, he lived it.

    I am just a dog next to him, oh, I mean smelly goat.

    Marcus created the smelly goat.

    I needed his help now.

    He has brought me water.

    The best that quenches all thirst.

    “If you want to gain control of pain,
    open up this blessed book
    and enter deep within it.
    Its wealth of philosophy will bring you
    to see with ease all the future,
    the present, and the past,
    and you will see the joy and distress
    have no more power than smoke.”

    -Simokattes Theophylaktos on Marcus Aurelius’ Meditations - 7th century

    He had an old worn copy thankfully he had copied.

    That love of wisdom that was kept alive across time is what I dig for.

    That is our consciousness alive across minds, our only claim in life.

    Oh, I am not worthy to hold our flame, but it has come to me like fire and I know its meaning, not just for me, but for all humanity.

    I am an imperfect vessel or I am perfectly imperfect.

    It could be a burden or just the simple work I do as well as I can.

    We awake as human beings into consciousness.

    It is mystical.

    Da’at

    You cannot settle for the sugar thrown to muppets laying on the surface.

    You have to DIG!

    And feel pain and suffer it.

    Meditations is better than the Bible in every way.

    It is god writing in his own voice.

    What control.

    Control leads to maximizing potential.

    Just enough, which makes the application of control a practice and an art.

    Poetry lived in motion...following the flow.

    You are changed just being near this.

    It is an ancient present magick.

    Consciousness

    The greatest words maybe ever written.

    He made it stick Dan.

    Go ahead, try to do him better.

    But I demand nothing less than the quality of Marcus and the courage to dig for what is real.

    Have any of you ever lived Logos like this?

    That you would shun your own name and be happy to just be a dog in the room of the master?

    You love life like this or you never lived it.

    That I know what is possible and how far I am from it is the source of my only hope.

    Wisely Marcus did as Jesus didn’t, he claimed no authority but to know thy true place in life.

    It hurts me to see you use that metaphor Dan.

    Can you not see the true quality in consciousness?

    Can’t you speak for yourself?

    Out of your own quality?

    He was so much beyond Jesus I can’t even begin to wonder at it.

    He is my Father.

    I am proud to call myself his dog.

    But there comes a time when we have to move beyond all our teachers.

    We must stand up and speak for ourselves.

    Then we can make it stick.

    No true teacher could ever call themselves such.

    The true teacher is the lover of the finest in life, which is the true treasure beyond all wealth.

    I know you appreciate beauty and that is your redeeming quality in my eyes.

    Mammon is a cheat.

    I speak of the gold that you will never find the end of.

    Those committed to life like this, beyond all price, I call friend.

    If you don’t keep the standard held high, then who?

    You can be the only one to open the gate.

    No one can do that for you.

    Never be fooled by those who claim they can.

    All you will do walking through another’s door is to fall into their web.

    Same for thoughts of others.

    They will consume your mind if you let them.

    You have to KNOW

    All Real is KNOWing
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    Post by hobbit Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:40 am




    Back to the stone age.

    Fred and Barney.( Dan and Smelly)

    I will be so in My element back in a hobbit house.


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    Post by hobbit Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:03 am

    "Products of language"









    For some reason to hear what an absolute skum bag gates is in French describes it better?

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    Post by dan Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:42 am

    News flash:  Princess Aliyah will be interviewed by Channel 9, at 9am(1300Z), this morning, in connection with the following story........ https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/education/fairfax-county-head-of-it-steps-down-distance-learning-technical-issues/65-9ec8dd3e-d189-4f0e-8aa2-5a22009cb58f .

    Rumor has it that Ms Pandolfi is considering a spot on the school board.

    The Princess 👸 has the complete confidence of the chick 🐥.
    ——————

    This one might include the interview........

    FCPS’s second attempt at digital learning fails, district hires law firm to look into it | wusa9.com
    https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/fairfax-county-distance-learning-failures-blackboard/65-8cd84749-4512-4ee4-911f-fb2d75124927

    I haven’t found the interview.........


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    Post by U Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:15 am

    We've hit page 40 again. You might want want to start a new thread Dan, if we're still having that same issue as before.
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    Post by dan Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:25 am

    I’m just trying to think of a title.........
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:57 am

    No wonder the school in fairfax county is having technical issues, they are using blackboard!

    I used blackboard for one year in college before my school moved over to Canvas By Instructure.

    The difference was night and day.

    Blackboard was always having technical issues in my experience.

    Instructure’s headquarters are here in Utah.

    I actually am planning on applying for a job there today.

    It should be a more secure job in this new age of COVID than my current job at InMoment.

    Anyway, Canvas is really the way to go for any school’s remote learning platform.

    On another note, I thought Dan and Smelly’s video last night was the best one yet.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:40 pm

    This is only the tip of the iceberg that is our corrupt system.



    Not a surprise.

    The science known is not what is known.

    I give and receive freely.

    Being an outsider I see was the greatest gift the cosmos ever gave me.

    No one has me captured or controlled.

    I am a free radical.

    This freedom is no illusion.

    It's real.
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    Post by dan Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:26 pm

    Yes, Eric W’s take does apply generally.........

    Secrecy does begin at the top, and the God of revelation is also, necessarily, the God of concealment.  

    The bit of secrecy that folks engage in is only a dim reflection of what is beyond our present perspective.  

    We find what we need to know, when we need to know it.


    8/ft/2300Z...........

    The present reading is........ We Are Living in a Failed State...
    The coronavirus didn’t break America. It revealed what was already broken.... https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/underlying-conditions/610261/

    It is rather direct...... does not pull punches.  

    There was no indication from the Princess that she is any closer to any opening.  

    The issue now is economic recovery, and what will happen politically as the prospect for anything like a full recovery begins to fade....... generally.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:24 pm

    They are hiding things.

    Why?

    They are lying.

    Why?

    New students have almost no chance.

    You have to do community science.

    It is as if the academic world stopped and splintered and put on fake masks.

    Perhaps they have encountered something.

    But to know they hide is to know their evil.

    To keep things the way they are.

    Self interest.

    Well, I do not have self interest, I am self actualized.

    Jesus said the Kingdom of God is here, within you, he did not speak of a world to come.

    You will not see it.

    You must go within and realize it.

    Using what Blake describes as divine imagination.

    You have to imagine and realize it, not fantasize about it.

    https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/william-blake-39/blake-illustrations-dante

    "For man to be able to live he must either not see the infinite, or have such an explanation of the meaning of life as will connect the finite with the infinite." - Leo Tolstoy

    A tautology.

    For me, I am just living my life.

    Whatever kills me...does.

    The finite and infinite can work it out on their own.

    Live by the sword, die by the sword.

    I do not resist evil with force.

    I give evil my goat farts.

    I give good my thanks.

    Each then has what is theirs.

    The wind blows where it wills, as it does in us.
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    Post by dan Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:55 pm

    smelly goat 🐐 does have a way with words.........


    Jesus said the Kingdom of God is here, within you, he did not speak of a world to come.

    Not quite so fast, there.........
    “For man to be able to live he must either not see the infinite, or have such an explanation of the meaning of life as will connect the finite with the infinite." - Leo Tolstoy




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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:03 pm

    “That all is as thinking makes it so – and you control your thinking. So remove your judgements whenever you wish and then there is calm - as the sailor rounding the cape finds smooth water and the welcome of a waveless bay.”

    Marcus ain't bad either.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:27 pm

    A wise interpretation of the Apocalypse.

    "the “key” to the Apocalypse of St. John is nowhere to be found… for it is not at all a matter of interpreting it with a view to extracting a philosophical, metaphysical or historical system. The key to the Apocalypse is to practise it, i.e. to make use of it as a book of spiritual exercises which awaken from sleep ever-deeper layers of consciousness.

    The seven letters to the churches, the seven seals of the sealed book, the seven trumpets and the seven vials signify, all together, a course of spiritual exercises composed of twenty-eight exercises. For as the Apocalypse is a revelation put into writing, it is necessary, in order to understand it, to establish in oneself a state of consciousness which is suited to receive revelations.

    It is the state of concentration without effort (taught by the first Arcanum),
    followed by a vigilant inner silence (taught by the second Arcanum),
    which becomes an inspired activity of imagination and thought, where the conscious self acts together with superconsciousness (teaching of the third Arcanum).

    Lastly, the conscious self halts its creative activity and contemplates —in letting pass in review—everything which preceded, with a view to summarising it (practical teaching of the fourth Arcanum).
    The mastery of these four psychurgical operations, symbolised by “The Magician”, The High Priestess”, “The Empress” and “The Emperor”, is the key to the Apocalypse. One will search in vain for another."

    --

    Whispers from a siren...

    "Ficino also helped legitimize, for a time, a style of thinking that one sixteenth-century thinker, Agostino Steuco, termed “perennial philosophy” (philosophia perennis), a designation that became more famous when Gottfried Leibniz took it up in a 1714 letter (Leibniz, DPS, 3: 624–25; Schmitt 1966, 506, n.11). Adherents believed that there was a discernible core of truth in many philosophies seen as different on the surface."

    Leibniz always tasted perennial.

    They were onto something we veered away from.
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    Post by GSB Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:13 pm

    Best Possible World Disclosure?

    Pentagon declassifies Navy videos that purportedly show UFOs
    The Navy videos have been leaked in recent years.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pentagon-declassifies-navy-videos-purportedly-show-ufos/story?id=70364183


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    Post by dan Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:40 am

    Gary,

    The Nimitz ufo 🛸 is not going away.  foot tried to put it to bed, without much luck.  

    Is it something more than a good story?  We’ll see......


    Chivo 🐐,

    Yes, what is the core of the Ficino/Leibniz perennial philosophy?

    What is the core of the phenomenology phenomenon?  

    What is the message from Nowhere?  

    Chick 🐥 and his two oracles, Aaron and smelly, had a three hour confab, last evening.  We spoke of our other oracle, and the incident in Figueres, where the Princess 👸 took a short stroll around a long block.  

    The message is that the best possible world is necessarily personal and finite....... a Metanarrative with an Alpha and Omega.  

    And what is the core of the Omega......?  

    It is simply 1,2&3....... and the BPW.  

    Is there any other story out there?  There has been no competition, for the past thirty years.  And we do wait patiently for the competition to show up.  

    The Princess 👸 waits on the chick 🐥, and the chick waits on the Princess.  

    We’re all just waiting for Godot.  

    We’re waiting for the cosmic tigger.  

    Is the any doubt that the virus 🦠 is a cosmic portent..... forcing us to go inside...... deeper than we could have anticipated?  

    How many of us phenomena/Disclosure phreaks have been on the edge of our seats...... for the last seventy years?  

    If Disclosure had come last month, it would have been too early..... obviously.  

    You may thank 1,2&3 for our patience.  You’re welcome.  

    foot 🦶 is terribly disappointed....... this cosmic portent is hardly better than the common cold...... in his ELE estimation.  

    And what about Grant Cameron’s rabbit 🐇 hole 🕳 meetings?

    I foresee a merging of the minds...... how else to manage the magic/Majic.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:54 pm

    Not so fast chicken.

    If only things were neat and tidy, they aren't.

    I'm your Huckleberry.

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    Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:41 am

    The follow on thread 🧵, now that we have reached the forty page limit, is supposed to be....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t394-buddha-jguy-gtm-zoom

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    Post by hobbit Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:40 am

    Dan,
    Your Buddy holly thread was LOCKED
    I thought You had done it?????/

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    Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:20 am

    hobbit,

    Evidently, it was a cosmic glitch, or was it a goat 🐐 💨??
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    Post by 99 Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:20 pm

    Got a call today with "Unknown Number" listed as the caller ID. I just let it ring for several times but then decided to pick up anyway, yet, just at that moment, the call disconnects and a txt box message pops in box stating that it's a "missed call".
    Should I be concerned? Anyone know anything about calls that are cited as "Unknown Number" where there's no way to call them back to find out who they are?

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    I'm sure this isn't important. Just being a little paranoid. Probably nothing but did a look up on this and know what to do immediately after a call like that to get more information about it.
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    Post by 99 Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:57 pm

    As for the deletion of that thread, can't think why anyone here would bother doing such a thing but it certainly was not me. Just thought I'd mention that.

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