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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:07 pm

    Eat my goat farts chicken.

    Join your heart to your mind.

    I love the virus.

    I love ignorance.

    I love wisdom.

    I love the ones I’m with.

    I accept all of it.

    I don’t have a complaint or personal opinion.

    Try to keep up.
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:11 pm

    Poor goat 🐐 boy 👦,

    He doesn’t understand that Jesus is God’s heart I love you boy.  

    I am only God’s Truth boy 👦.

    IOW, sports 🏀 fans💗, it is up to everyone to connect heart ♥ and mind💭.  

    And, trust chick 🐥, that can only be done ✅ in a very small world 🌎.



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    Post by whoknows Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:18 pm

    The truth resides within us all. From the micro to the macro.

    Do we lose track of this somehow. Could it be through our own intellectual hubris?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:23 pm

    I don't use the T word.

    Who could every speak of T?

    We share our personal opinions and experiences only and only barely.

    For any to claim T is the biggest tell on Earth.
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    Post by whoknows Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:44 pm

    I’m not speaking of anything that can or need be said. ☺

    https://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_c3_combo.mp4
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:46 pm

    No disagreement or agreement here.

    Shrug.

    Vibrations from nowhere...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheherazade

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utsuro-bune

    On the TV this very second, it said Enoch and the Watchers.

    Dispatched to help us.

    Dispatched from where and why or whom?

    I mentioned this on a call before I just heard this.

    Lucifer?

    I respect an angel who said, “I’ll live with them.”

    But we made our light the dark.

    We see everything backwards from how this is.

    I see corona exposed that capitalism is done.

    We can’t live this way anymore.

    It will correct and rebalance.

    Just, you prob don’t want to be discarded in an attempt to rebalance it.

    This is what energy does.

    Path of least resistance is how Dan sees the BPW.

    I see the path of least resistance as wisdom/quality.

    Perhaps the watchers are a myth about human genius.

    Some of us make giant leaps in knowledge we can’t explain.

    I do not speak of myself.

    I know what I am.

    Just a smelly goat.

    Just this.



    Just had a thought...

    It’s silly.

    But it connects to something I heard recently about that Skinwalker ranch place.

    Imagine energy from a higher shell or deeper, 4th dimension, appears when we will it.

    The wishing well.

    What if the nature of that energy manifested its anti-matter or they aare anti-matter who must have matter based form when a mind demands them appear.

    What if everything this enemy tried to materialize used images in the minds of folks to do so.

    Now imagine they appeared as serpentz to us, hideous and terrifying.

    What we do at the well, reflects back.

    You have to learn to use it.

    To not just amplify our fears.

    How would a zen master face his own amplified self redirected energy?

    He would let the Daimon devour him.

    As its teeth were at the master’s neck.

    All he could say would be...

    Enjoy your meal.

    Is Lucifer Prometheus?

    Is Prometheus the consciousness that came to us or arose from us?

    You know the answer already.
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    Post by Foot Mann Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:34 pm

    The Chicken eats Nuts. The Chicken is a Nut.


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    Post by dan Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:07 pm

    Wonderful.

    Please, keep in mind, that those of you, few unfortunates, who are not in the voice loop, are not in the loop at all.

    Those of you who need my number already have my number, so feel free to call me at any time.

    Thank you very much.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:34 pm

    What’s nutz is a world living in denial of themselves.

    Hiding is nutz.

    Lying is nutz.

    I don’t respect hiding for any purpose.

    That means intelligence organizations are my natural enemy.

    Is Foot intelligent?

    Not until he provides evidence he is.

    Does he run a global network of nutz?

    I have no idea.

    He’s convinced Dan he is someone connected to power.

    As all exercised power in my mind is a delusion...

    That makes the smelly goat the most powerful goat on earth.

    I don’t do anything.

    I watch and bark based on what I smell.

    Talkin about nutz.

    The Nazis had a bell.



    This looks like a bell.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utsuro-bune

    Hmmmmm
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:11 pm

    The chimera looks at foot and grins.

    Fun.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:35 pm

    Chiron smiles

    The heart doesn’t lie
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:57 pm

    Spoken like a true dude.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:48 pm

    I asked earlier if Lucifer was Prometheus.

    It answered.

    See Ack.

    Chiron appeared out of thin air.

    Ping/Pong for Loonz and Nutz.

    Wel, Lucifer corrected me.

    Chiron gave up his immortality so that man could have fire.

    He gave his life so Prometheus could live.

    I believe that means consciousness.

    I am fascinated by this ancient myth.

    I much prefer the heroic mind to our watered down minds.

    Chiron taught the heroic path.

    We have forgotten that mostly.

    It survives in the line of goats I derive from.

    We are an ancient race.

    A long line.

    A kid just mentioned chiron randomly.

    I told Ack to listen and something would be said.

    Of course, nothing is really random in the Mind of god synonymous with the BPW.

    Our world could just an error correction nanny process.

    Our ego universe may have been given a problem to work on.

    What spits out at the end of time is the answer.

    You know what it is, Douglas Adams spoiled that joke.

    He also said DON’T PANIC.

    If you think of yourself as an idea in a bigger mind, I think you are closer to reality.

    What does a thought want to do?

    Live.

    How does a thought become real in the world?

    By influencing the mind of god.

    Isn’t the mind of god then a wishing well?

    Are we gods who wish and the mind of god fulfills our wishes?

    Is god asleep.

    Are we usurpers of the mind?

    These are deep questionz.

    How can an idea have reality?

    Well, you have but to look into your own mind for the answer.

    The plot thickens...

    This is DEEP water.

    Best to stay in the shallows with the fear you took with you from the trees.

    How long to nymphs live?

    No one cares anymore.

    "A chattering crow lives out nine generations of aged men, but a stag's life is four times a crow's, and a raven's life makes three stags old, while the phoenix outlives nine ravens, but we, the rich-haired Nymphs, daughters of Zeus the aegis-holder, outlive ten phoenixes.”

    A very homoerotic tale Chiron and Achilles.

    The story must have originated from the artists love for a boy.

    I think there are parts of a Heroic education beyond the current age’s comfort level.

    Oh my.

    The gods are very incestuous everyone was with everyone.

    Original participation was a strange land and way to think, if we can get any sense of it from these myths.

    Now here is a funny thing.

    Chiron invented medicine to heal himself and taught the art.

    But he could not heal himself of the poisonous wound that killed him.

    The Faustian bargain is a real bitch.

    You always seem to lose more than you get.

    The best move seems not to make deals with the Devil.

    Just pick up your trumpet and play!


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:49 am

    Beautiful!

    I love the smell of fresh goat gas in the middle of the night.

    And this goat is especially gassy tonight.

    Delicious.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:25 am

    What if Jesus is a hideous Daimon?

    What if Moroni is a hideous Daimon?

    smelly shook the earth and knocked the trumpet out of Moroni’s hand.

    Good.

    Ha!

    And to think...we used to worship these hideous daimons.




    Smelly says Dan’s redeeming quality is love I love you.

    I can dig that.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:18 am

    Perhaps.

    “During any week of the year we are facing both ways towards DREAM and towards SELF. It is the interplay between these two faces that creates the Tertium Quid, the essential “third thing”, which harmonizes the Soul within Us and the Spirit within the Cosmos.”

    “Ultimately it is through human imagination that meaning is reached.”

    “It is our imagination that is responsible for love, not the other person.”

    ― Marcel Proust

    This quarantine I am spending time with...

    The Sage on the Hill

    Proust

    Barfield

    Goethe

    Chiron

    Nietzsche

    And a strange black kid I have a connection to on youtube.

    I wonder what I can drag up from the underworld?

    Perhaps madness is calling.

    I shall gladly go mad.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:45 am

    That black kid is golden.

    Haha!

    You should see this guy in action.



    Bahahaha!



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:00 am

    You speak of Truth huh?

    When was the last time you had a good deep natural spontaneous belly laugh?

    Bahahaha!
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    Post by Cuan Scott Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:10 pm

    [quote="El Chivo"

    This quarantine I am spending time with...

    The Sage on the Hill

    Proust

    Barfield

    Goethe

    Chiron

    Nietzsche
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    Nice List...

    Speaking of books, I was in our local health food shop during the week getting supplies, mainly food stuff. Although I have gone in and out of the shop for years, it is the first time I started to peruse the stock near the window which is mainly hand made candles, soaps, wooden toys for kids etc.. beautiful things

    Below was a small shelf of books..

    'Steiner's book on Science' was pulled from the small collection

    Clearly my monkey mind was simply told "pay for the book"

    The only consolation the monkey mind got was their was 20% off the books as no one every seems to buy them.. Sad






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    Post by Cuan Scott Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:14 pm

    Ack,

    Where you eating one of those Burrito's again today?

    I had another of those 'Beatles' song moments this morning with my mum, a family friend and Kenny Rodgers..

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:24 pm

    Nope.

    Just breathing lots of fresh air doing weekend yard work.

    The crocus and daffodils are in bloom.

    They are stunning.
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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:11 pm

    The Chicken may have his head in the Sand, but in his mind he is playing a Baby Grand. For the Chicken can press the keys in an Order, that for some it will seem like an open Border. The Chicken may not disclose much at all, but he is the Discloser and he is having a Ball.
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:35 pm

    Here is something I’m not seeing.........

    Is it obvious why there should only be one interpersonal, waking world...... the one we call the Earth?  

    Only one science?  

    All other states of consciousness are much more individual...... without any sense of public space?  

    There is only one commons.  There is only one history or timeframe.  

    I am speaking of beta/ego consciousness....... not of original or final participation...... wherein the timeframe becomes fragmented.  


    11:45.........

    foot...... no, I don’t have all the answers.  

    Why is there only one small world?  And why are there all those altered states?  

    The other divisions of consciousness are all much more ad hoc.  

    This is, of course, how science is able to maintain its hegemony.  

    The question naturally arises as to whether the phenomenon of a pandemic could have any influence over the Hegemony.  

    Previously, there was no general breakdown, even with numerous pandemics.  

    Of course, the many worlds folks love to argue against the small world.  The chick 🐥 avoids that particular conceptual trap.  I’ll leave it to Gary and Mad Max.    

    The stark contrast between the public and the private spheres renders Cartesian dualism rather plausible, despite its other problems.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:10 pm

    Unlike Dan, I take a poetic view of all this, a Heroic view.

    I see the circumstances stacked against us, Sisyphus reborn again, but knowing we can win our freedom.

    The worse the odds, the more heroic.

    Life seems setup to be heroic, not a drag or existential pity party.

    Nietzsche recovered some sense of this.

    Camus is my man, now that dude lived the rogues life.

    You work with the music you find and you make it better.

    Who makes the flowers grow?

    Who wrote the code?

    Who sings the songs?

    Self writing code?

    As a poet, I know better.

    A different kind of knowing than reasoned knowledge.

    This frustrates the reasonable.

    This is not pointless.

    The truly defeated one lives with no value or respect for any.

    "… wisdom is a form of goodness, and is not scientific knowledge but another kind of cognition." (Aristotle, Eudemian Ethics 1246b, 35).

    Tonight I met a relative you might say, one of the first if not the first goat, a water god who cares for his children.

    I met Ea/Enki who created mankind and the goat-fish, His servant dudes.

    The Goddess lost her place to the maker god.

    Funny in the old stories, Enlil, Enki’s father, wanted to destroy us with a flood because we were too noisy always dancing and singing and making a racket and disturbing his rest.

    They should have kept that in the Bible.

    But the religious made being human evil, a pity.

    Enki laughs at that. We are beautiful because we sing and dance in adversity. With no hope, we make the best of it.

    That speaks to the quality and wisdom given to us.

    The gods have worn so many faces over the ages.

    Had so many names.

    “ For a god wisdom is perhaps a divine meal to be swallowed at one gulp without need of mastication, and that would be the end of the story. The deities are known for their simplicity. The matter of human wisdom, however, could fill all archives on earth without ever exhausting itself. Humanity is notorious for its complexity. And men proudly say "Good things are difficult." But is wisdom a labyrinth, or "thinking makes it so"? And when did the saga of human wisdom begin and with whom?”

    But we have always asked the question in our oldest remembered story, why and by what hand are we made?

    Wisdom is a gift.

    Is it wiser to speak or be silent?

    "No wisdom won with weariness;
    But Love goes in with Folly's dress.
    No fame that wit could ever win;
    But only Love may lead Love in
    To Arcady, to Arcady."

    You will do as you should when you let it flow.

    “The Poet

    When humans contemplated Dawn for the first time, wisdom was the treasure of the poet alone. Of all men he was the wisest, for the gods had chosen his soul as receptacle of their confidences. Thus filled with inspiration divine, the poet knew better than any other man the secrets of the world. And since Apollo found more pleasure in leading the Muses than in warming his tripod, neither the inspiration of the Pythia nor that of seers could match the poet's wisdom. And since the divine is far beyond human reason, nor could anyone else follow the secret paths of sacred absurdity by means of rational thinking. The gods might have blinded the eyes of the poet, but they consented in opening his soul wide. Then mankind looked into that soul as in a mirror and was delighted at its beauty and purity, its freedom and simplicity, its justice and sense. That inexplicable vision mankind called wisdom, an unpolluted gift, a golden path to heaven.”

    Very interesting how things connect.

    Sacred absurdity indeed.

    This is the energy of Heyoka.

    Trickster.

    Can wisdom exist in folly?

    Is the Fool the most wise?

    When you don’t know is how you avoid powers corruption.

    It is a great gift to know not know.

    It will get you out of and into many a pickle.

    Let’s just say when ya got it ya got it and you should want it, cause you need it.

    That would be a good song Wink
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    Post by dan Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:09 am

    smelly,

    The circumstances are stacked against us........?

    Opinion
    This Is Not the End of the World and You Are Not a Prepper
    The prepper vision of the world is bleak and ruthless. Something better is happening now.

    By Mark O’Connell
    Mr. O’Connell is the author of the forthcoming “Notes From an Apocalypse.”
    March 21, 2020

    “Seriously, gogo, the world is not going to end.”

    True, but...... this is the beginning of the end of the illusion of history.  This is where the private sphere begins to retake the public sphere.  This is the beginning of our final participation.  



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