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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:34 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    Topic reminder.......

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    Post by dan Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:00 pm

    Thank you, Chivo,

    Yes, I like that....... mapping the mind of God........ who also happens to be us...... certainly our collective ‘higher’ selves.  

    Yours is a very abrupt exit from modernity....... like jumping into the cold 🥶 shower.  

    My exit ramp is just a tad smoother, but, quite admittedly, is more time consuming.  

    And, the way things are looking..... time is an increasingly precious commodity.  

    .


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:03 pm

    Hobbit can feel this and Dan is jealous.

    Dan will never reason it out.

    It's a distraction.

    Bahahahahaha
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:08 pm

    Dan, that's why, to know your Nature, just sync to nature and you will be in the hands and center of Nature.

    Nature is not separate.

    Nature is our nature.

    This here is the still point.

    It seems to be to allow us to feel this.

    You can know nature doing not doing.

    Knowing not knowing it.

    Very subtle.

    Go with the harmony.

    It really works.

    And it is my best evidence of Nature's love.

    Of a higher order of intelligence.

    That I don't know shit comparably.

    It is not my God in any sense we talk about God,

    I just feel apart of it completely.

    It is a deeper knowing.

    A love we barely comprehend.
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    Post by dan Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:16 pm

    Chivo 🐐,

    Can you not imagine that there is more than one path to Rome...... to the truth?  

    Yours may turn out to be the best possible path....... but it is not the only possible path.  

    See if you can be honest about that, just for once, 🐐👦 .......

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:19 pm

    Welcome to Gethsemane.

    A Garden you must suffer for to see.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:21 pm

    And no, I won't compromise my world line Dan to be more 'polite'.

    Bahahaha

    Of course there are many rooms in my house, do you think I'm an idiot goat?

    No, I'm a smelly goat.

    I am Nature.

    There are no paths to being.

    I could give two shits what anyone thinks.

    And I will tell them that, always.

    And that is my love and compassion.

    It is in my goat fartz.

    There is just being.

    I do not preach a path.

    I can only dance and describe being suddenly!

    Just be yourself here.

    Demand that from all you meet.

    Otherwise, you are a compromised man.

    There are two Fools.

    Which are you, always both.
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    Post by dan Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:38 pm

    Are you saying that we can depart this Earth without leaving any tracks?  

    Some of us still have to put our pants 👖 on, one leg at time.  

    Please forgive us........ Lord!


    6:15.........

    Chivo,

    Just think of chicken little 🐥 as a portal 🚪 traffic engineer 👨💻.  

    Think of the sign......... in case of fire, walk, do not run 🏃 to the nearest exit.  

    I would just like to avoid folks being trampled in our exodus.  

    In the best possible world, there will be no trampling, but god must love worry warts, otherwise she wouldn’t have made so many of us.  

    And out there, there might be one stray scientific materialist who would be persuaded by my chicken 🐥 scratches.  Yes, I leave the ninety-nine to you, and go searching for the one lost sheep.  

    Or did God tell that there aren’t any such?  

    We, humans, with what hobbit admits is our infinite ♾ potential, we don’t want everyone’s head to explode at once......... or maybe we do?   I honestly don’t know, at this juncture.  

    But I guess the goat 🐐 is saying that the prophetic tradition would have been a lot better off without any prophets.  

    He says the world would have been better off without any prophetic tradition. This should constitute proof positive that this cannot be the best possible world....... in which case you should be joining forces with hobbit, in tearing down the 5G cell towers....... better hurry, time is short.



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    Post by Cuan Scott Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:02 pm

    Not all aspects of the current crisis appear to be negative..



    El Chivo's relatives?

    Mass take over?

    Perhaps there is a lesson here and the other videos circulating on animals feeling 'safe' enough to wander into 'human' zones.

    Perhaps we are all meant to stay at home!

    It would certainly save Foot and the Princess from having to go for the ELE!

    As regards 5G, I am the least qualified on this board to offer any opinion based on the electro-magnetic aspects and risks.. that said.. I don't believe our issue is 5G

    Hobbit - I can't offer any reason for this other than 'feel' or maybe 'intuition' .. whatever that is.

    I love your posts regarding the megalithic sites, consciousness fields etc.

    My home is just over the hill and in direct alignment with an 11th century Cistercian Abbey in the village in which I live. Part of my home is built with the materials from the ruins or so they say.

    Cy,

    I am ashamed to say that as a native of this land, I have much to learn. However, that said, whilst the ruins of the abbey remain, it is shaded by many sacred Yews that surround it. Beautiful they are .. I know enough to know that they speak for those willing to listen through the rustling leaves as did their ancestors who where there long before the church showed up..










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    Post by Cuan Scott Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:28 pm

    To finish my point on the 5G issue, maybe it is and maybe it isn't..

    However what can we say to be 'real'

    I do know there is 'something' rather than nothing..

    I have faith in truth and love..

    I believe that each possess the necessary properties to cultivate quality..

    Many on this board have pointed to this but they cannot walk it for me or anyone else

    We must choose to walk it

    I choose to walk it whether I stumble or fall.. I can always get back up and keep walking

    I believe the chicken is scarily smart and wise to boot and has the goat's number Wink

    I trust the chicken..

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:20 pm

    Here...

    There are no sidez Dan.

    It just iz wonderfully and terrifyingly what it iz.

    Guess what?

    You have to make it golden.

    You have to DIG!

    God damn it, it does not mean nothing.

    Push that god damn rock up that god damn hill and smile.

    Sisyphus won.

    Or give in and say nothing matters.

    Be a rat and just survive.

    NO!!!

    NEVER!!!

    Why survive when you can thrive?!

    As each deepens their flow, so it will all go.

    It doesn’t just happen.

    Do you know how I know this?

    Because you don’t just show up.

    That’s a big part.

    You develop yourself.

    You don’t gain truth.

    Your quality brings wisdom.

    What is wisdom?

    What izzzzz wizzzzdom?!

    You who have it, know it.

    I can’t show the ignorant or lazy.

    You improve constantly.

    You refractor mercilessly.

    You throw out what doesn’t work.

    Kaizen

    Prophecy?!

    Are kidding mezzzz?!

    NO Dan

    Fuck prophecy.

    If an angel or demon offered to tell me the future...

    I’d kick them in their demonic ballz.

    Tell me genius prophetz?!

    How many of you said fuck you to the vision?!

    We don’t know their namez.

    But I know they lived.

    Burn the god damn boat.

    We make it better.

    Or we settle for the least.

    If we do the work.

    And love it.

    It will respond in kind.

    Love your life and life smilez at you.

    All iz well.

    Damn all this ya got my blood up.

    Now is the time to show your quality and come out of your holes.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:22 pm

    CS showz signz of life.

    Doctorz, I believe the patient haz realized he wazzz never lame!

    Uh oh.

    Now what?
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    Post by RunningBull Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:51 pm

    El Chivo cheers

    We do need to come out of our holes.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:58 am

    Idiots proclaim the sun newspaper owned by Rupert Murdock.




    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11320198/coronavirus-5g-conspiracy-theory-masts/?utm_campaign=sunmainfacebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1585929592


    Conspiracy theorists ( who invented that little mind trick catch phrase???)

    You don't suppose that the Chinese people have been chopping down 5G masts ???do You.

    hobbit rambling on.
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    Post by dan Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:37 am

    Hey, I’ll do you one ☝ better,

    Technology progress is bad for our health, and will, inevitably lead us to the Eschaton.  

    Does technological progress cause the Eschaton...... or does the Eschaton cause technical progress.  

    The Eschaton is our Telos..... our Omega.  

    The Alpha and Omega cause everything....... everything causes the Alpha and Omega.  

    Poor little hobbit....... he’s so busy rearranging the deck chairs 🪑 on the Titanic.  

    God must love the small minded, otherwise she wouldn’t have created so many of us.  

    Pretty soon, hobbit, your head will explode 💥, and you will be seeing the light of the BPW...... until then, better be dancing around the fires 🔥 of Beltane.  


    The lesson for today, sports fans, comes from the current New Yorker..... The Unravelling of a Dancer.... Sharon Stern devoted herself to Butoh. Did her mentor lead her down a dangerous path?

    Butoh is a modern Japanese dance style......
    The M.F.A. program existed, he said, at the intersection of postmodernism and Buddhism. “It was about saying, ‘We are going to kill off these old dualisms, like light and dark, good and bad, dirty and clean, and start to sit with things as they really are.’”
    Sound familiar?  

    The plot spoiler is that Sharon commits suicide..... and that her mentor has been virtually banned from the US.  

    As an eschatologist, aren’t I advocating a global suicide?  


    1:15........

    There is a sense in which the prophetic tradition is a global suicide note.......
    Those were the days my friend
    We thought they'd never end
    We'd sing and dance forever and a day
    We'd live the life we choose
    We'd fight and never lose
    Those were the days, oh yes those were the days
    Certainly the chick 🐥 does not advocate suicide....... quite the contrary.  

    The prophetic tradition revels in the notion that we only go around once, so we might as well go with gusto.  

    The point of the article is that the obliteration of the ego is a much bigger deal in the West, and is liable to lead to more personal trauma.  

    Chivo takes a radically Eastern path, and he has no patience with those of us still on the Western path...... to each their own medicine.  

    If the imminent reality of the global Eschaton is not pointed out, too many folks will internalize its portents, and take the burden on themselves....... bowling 🎳 alone, as it were.

    The Eschaton is meant to be shared...... meant to be celebrated...... mission accomplished, and all that.



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    Post by whoknows Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:46 am

    What more need be said.

    Though it does seem to need be said over and over.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:07 am

    I got a better idea than suicide.

    DIG

    But all can face death as they like.

    You think suicide is a failure?

    It’s a perfectly fine choice if you feel it in your heart.

    The tragedy is when one dies because they were trapped by their minds.

    When you stop judging things, we don’t talk about Eschatons.

    Silly muppet.

    We talk about life around the fire.

    And we laugh with death.

    I love you think you know what’s happening dan.

    It only shows what you don’t know.

    And to you and hobbit...

    All IZ WELL

    Relax and listen to the flowers.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:12 am

    whoknows wrote:What more need be said.

    Though it does seem to need be said over and over.


    Nice flowerz.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:17 am

    Poor girl.

    She missed the point entirely.

    All along it was just to dance.

    Sad.

    Instead of a moment of silence for her...

    a dance as this



    Shine on.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:23 am

    Epimenides turned into the kind of sage that rulers call to placate the rage caused by, for example, plague. For natural disasters usually drive men out of their minds.

    When nature pushes us, we rage at her.

    We are filled with rage.

    They say it’s freedom.

    But freedom is just...



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    You do not delete the ego, you relax in the heart.

    You really don’t know anything about anything.

    You make me laugh...ha

    Just relax Dan, the only war is fought in the delusional mind.

    Relaxing is a much more sensible approach to life than lunatic religious or scientific rage.

    But you can keep your obvious rage.

    You and Foot can get a room and be happy in each other’s arms.

    Dream about killing everyone you sick apes.

    You only hate yourself and your father and mother.

    Boy, did they do a number on you.



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    Post by dan Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:04 pm

    The smelly Chivo 🐐 keeps butting his head against the overbearing fact that ours must be the best possible world.  

    This age of the Ego was necessarily the aeon of the eclipse of the Source.  

    smelly has noted, with a great alarum, that when the Cat’s away, the mice do play.  

    You don’t say.  

    Only thing is that, in the best possible world, the muppets have infinite potential..... just like you and me.  So you’d better be watching out, smelly, what you’re saying about my friends.  


    6:10..........

    Arundhati Roy: ‘The pandemic is a portal’

    https://www.ft.com/content/10d8f5e8-74eb-11ea-95fe-fcd274e920ca
    Historically, pandemics have forced humans to break with the past and imagine their world anew. This one is no different. It is a portal, a gateway between one world and the next.

    We can choose to walk through it, dragging the carcasses of our prejudice and hatred, our avarice, our data banks and dead ideas, our dead rivers and smoky skies behind us. Or we can walk through lightly, with little luggage, ready to imagine another world. And ready to fight for it.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:02 pm

    As much as i would like, I cannot secede from the ignorant masses who muddy the waters of consciousness.

    But if I considered my life and felt to die, still, my act is the meaning, either way.

    I agree with Camus, unless you despair unto death, you never live.

    For you must face your fear.

    That is the destiny of a Jedi.

    Speaking of fires...

    I was sitting here alone and Marcus stopped by.

    He reminded me of a few things.

    As always I am grateful for his patience and his wisdom.

    We do not speak of prophecy.

    We look at one another and grin because we know such things are nonsense.

    But I will not argue it.

    There is no prophecy that can stand against true philosophy.

    It matters what we do, not what we think and feel.

    “ 13. To-day I escaped all circumstance, or rather I cast out all circumstance, for it was not outside me, but within, in my judgements.
    14. All things are the same: familiar in experience, transient in time, sordid in their material; all now such as in the days of those whom we have buried.
    15. Things stand outside our doors, themselves by themselves, neither knowing nor reporting anything about themselves. What then does report about them? The governing self.
    16. Not in feeling but in action is the good and ill of the reasonable social creature; even as his excellence and his failings are not in feeling but in action.
    17. To the stone that is thrown up it is no ill to be carried down nor good to be carried upwards.
    18. Penetrate within, into their governing selves, and you will see what critics you fear, and what poor critics they are of themselves.
    19. All things are in change, and you yourself in continuous alteration and in a sense destruction. So, too, is the Universe as a whole.
    20. Another's wrong act you must leave where it is.
    21 The ceasing of action, impulse, judgement is a pause and a kind of death, not any evil. Now pass to the ages of your life, boyhood for instance, youth, manhood, old age; for each change of these was a death; was it anything to be afraid of? Pass now to your manner of life under your grandfather, then under your mother, then under your (adoptive) father, and when you discover many another destruction, change, and ending, ask yourself: 'Was it anything to be afraid of?' So then even the ceasing, pause, and change of your whole life is not.
    22. Make haste to your own governing self, to that of the Whole, and that of this man. To your own, to make it a righteous mind; to that of the Whole, to remind yourself what it is of which you are a part; to this man's, that you may observe whether it is ignorance or design, and may reflect at the same time that his self is of one kind with your own.
    23. As you are yourself a complement of a social system, so let every act of yours be complementary of a social living principle. Every act of yours, therefore, which is not referred directly or remotely to the social end sunders your life, does not allow it to be a unity, and is a partisan act, like a man in a republic who for his own part sunders himself from the harmony of his fellows.
    24. Children's fits of temper and dolls and 'spirits carrying dead bodies', so that the story of the visit to the abode of Death strikes one more vividly.”

    ...

    Watching the waves has likely driven you insane Dan.

    “28. The rotations of the Universe are the same, up and down, from age to age.
    Now either the mind of the Whole has an impulse to each individual; and if that is so, welcome what it initiates; or else it had an impulse once for all and what follows is consequential upon that; and why are you anxious? And whether the Whole be God, all is well—or whether it be Chance, somehow molecules or atoms, be not yourself then ruled by Chance.

    In a moment earth will cover us all, then earth, too, will change and what ensues will change to eternity and that again to eternity. A man who thinks of the continuous waves of change and alteration, and the swift passage of all mortal things, will hold them in disdain.”

    Just be here and act from nature.

    “29. The matter of the Whole is a torrent; it carries all in its stream. What then, man, is your part? Act as Nature this moment requires; set about it, if it is granted you, and don't look round to see whether any one will know. Don't hope for Plato's Utopia, but be content to make a very small step forward and reflect that the result even of this is no trifle. How cheap are these mere men with their policies and their philosophic practice, as they suppose; they are full of drivel. For who will change men's convictions? And without a change of conviction what else is there save a bondage of men who groan and pretend to obey? Go to now and talk to me of Alexander, Philip, and Demetrius of Phalerum. If they saw what Universal Nature willed and went to school to her, I will follow: but if they were actors on the world's stage, no one has condemned me to imitate them. The work of Philosophy is simplicity and self-respect; lead me not away to vainglory.

    30. 'Look from above' at the spectacle of myriad herds, myriad rites, and manifold journeying in storm and calm; diversities of creatures who are being born, coming together, passing away. Ponder, too, the life led by others long ago, the life that will be led after you, the life being led in uncivilized races; how many do not even know your name, how many will very soon forget it and how many who praise you perhaps now will very soon blame you; and that neither memorial nor fame nor anything else at all is worth a thought.

    31. Calm, in respect of what comes to pass from a cause outside you; justice, in acts done in accord with a cause from yourself: that is to say, impulse and act terminating simply in neighbourly conduct, because for you this is according to Nature.”

    Grinning.

    Thanks Marcus.

    All the men around me live as whimpering fools.

    I will live in accordance with my nature and my neighbors.

    If they sleight me, I shall give to them.

    That is infinite potential.

    Only through the rainbow connection.

    Chance or God.

    Th Sun or Bust.

    I am sufficient unto myself come what may.

    From here the real work is completed and done at the same time in the infinity sign of the dragon eating its tail.

    From here u shirk false idealism and morality. You shed your mechanical optimism.

    Welcome to the brooding heart of man, your true inheritance, it drives many insane and into suicide.

    Are you so weak minded or hearted?

    NO

    Absurdity of life and death and good and evil initiates you.

    From here one may dare to rediscover their own sense of eternity, where the fear of the storm breaks.

    The fever comes down.

    Now tell me about following thoughts of dead men.

    As Marcus threw down his crown, so do I.

    Heaven is a horrible place.

    A hell with a pretty face.

    I do not want live forever.

    I drop my claim on eternity.

    What arrogant ants we are.

    Where are the female prophets?

    They bore the living.

    They tell no tales.

    Prophecy is the dream of the ego to live forever.

    And we are trapped in that nightmare.

    But to live, you must die.

    A paradox.

    Does that make you rage or calm?

    I choose calm, because while we appear a tempest, we are still.

    Our true nature.

    And from our natural calm, one crosses the bridge to nowhere.

    No muppet can pazzzzzz


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