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Once again, I'm left speechless, Princess....... the Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away.
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Foot Mann wrote:One man for Congress, two paths ahead. On path for good the other for Dread. The chicken will lead him to the abyss, for the chicken cares not and for truth gives a Hiss.
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Foot Mann wrote:Only the Chicken can follow this path, as he wanders the way through God's wrath. No one can lead or follow his math, for the chicken is pecking the corn from his path.
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
dan wrote:Cy,
Ron is my bad cop, and Aliyah is Ron’s bad cop.
Neither of them have any patience with muppets.
However, Cy, in my understanding, Creation is by, for and about (us) ‘muppets’.
Folks like 🦶 are here only to serve the rest of us. They don’t like to be constantly reminded of this fact.
Revelation is imminent. I don’t need to tell you this, Cy.
The deepest shadows appear just before the dawn.
🦶and are operating under very different protocols.
(cont.........)
Dan Smith wrote:"🦶and are operating under very different protocols. "
Dan Smith wrote:
"Revelation is imminent. I don’t need to tell you this, Cy.
The deepest shadows appear just before the dawn. "
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
smelly_yolk wrote:All revelation is imagination.
The proto mind was our feelings most likely.
Imagine you can imagine anything, have fun, I certainly am.
It’s all make believe.
Who can make the muppets believe?
Who the fuck would waste their time on ones who can’t imagine or know they are?
Grin and nod
Grin and nod
Grin and nod
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
History wrote:The doctrine put forth by the Monophysite sect of the young Christian Church attempted to discredit all references to reincarnation contained in the early gospels. The early Christian Church had initially accepted the doctrine of reincarnation, which had been a main tenet that was promoted by Church Fathers such as Clement of Alexandria and Origen in the third century, along with St Jerome in the fifth century. The early writings of Origen had specifically suffered constant attacks over the centuries. In 553 AD, the Fifth Ecumenical Congress of Constantinople (aka Council of Constantinople II) condemned the writings of Origen, an act authorized by Emperor Justinian, effectively removing most remnants of the belief in reincarnation from Church teachings, while declaring any promotion of that concept to be heresy.
It is secret documents from the Judean branch of the Essene Brotherhood to which most of Jesu's students belonged, referenced by occult author Eklal Kueshana, which speaks of Jesu's baptismal full-immersion in the River Jordan, describing a temporary switch of inhabitants in the body. The temporary resident reportedly departed that body at its moment of physical death. Three days later that resurrected body was once again returned to and reoccupied by its prior original entity, the man known as Jesus.
Only a few select people knew of this. Meanwhile per the narrative, Jesus then lived out the remaining 'natural life' of His material body at various European sites, mainly in France, Ireland, and England along with Mary Magdalene who supposedly became His wife.
Gnosticism attributes much of its spread to Marcion and Valentinus during the mid-second century AD. Around 140 AD Valentinus claimed to have learned the secret teachings of Gnosticism from Theudas, one of Paul's early disciples. Gnosticism was also spread by the teachings of Theodotus between c.140 and 160 AD. Its connection to Greek philosophers further provided a link between the Divine Logos and the mind of the adept (recall the culture/knowledge exchange between the Greeks/Pythagoras and the Drui) allowing select initiates access to a higher level of secret wisdom and esoteric teachings. (See also St. Irenaeus Bishop of Lyons). Valentinus divulged an esoteric Gnostic belief in different levels of gods or 'divine beings' which was also accepted and strongly promoted by Marcion, who noted a sharp contrast between the vengeful God of the Old Testament and the forgiving God of Love portrayed within the New Testament.
Valentinus described the Creator God as the "[Root] of the All, the [Ineffable One who]dwells in the Monad. [He dwells alone] in silence...since, after all, [He was] a Monad, and no one was before Him..." He further clarified the distinction between the two gods, stating that the lesser divine being served as the instrument of higher powers. Valentinus also stated that the lesser god of Earth:" who reigns as king and lord, who acts as military commander, who gives the law and judges those who violate it," was the God of Israel. Gnostic scholar and author, Dr. Elaine Pagels, quoted the Gnostic teacher, Justinus, who described the Lord's shock, terror, and anxiety: "...when he discovered that he was not the God of the Universe."
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History II wrote:The extant written Gnostic record consists of 52 Coptic payri texts, which included early secret Christian gospels. Those texts were found in 1945, stored in jars and hidden amon the cliffs of the mountains near the town of Nag Hammadi, Egypt. Some of the texts were similar to the teachings of the Followers of Righteousness (Right Choice/Excellence) discovered with the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are usually associated with the Jewish Essene sect. The gospels of the New Testament are dated between c.70 and 110 AD, while these Gnostic gospels are dated slightly earlier from c.50 to 100 AD. The Gnostic texts also contain some gospels that are completely unknown within the New Testament. Those include: the Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Philip, Gospel of the Egyptians (aka The Sacred Book of the Great Invisible Spirit), Gospel of Mary [Magdalene], Gospel of Truth, the Secret Book of James, the Apocalypse of Paul, the Apocalypse of Peter, and the Letter of Peter to Philip. Some Gnostic gospels, especially the Gospel of Philip, contradict or differ with certain accounts of Jesus that are contained within the 'accepted' New Testament gospels.
Much of the scholarly knowledge of the Gnostics and their belief system is derived from the writings and descriptions of anti-Gnostic texts written by competing Christian sects of the 2nd century AD. Much of their true tenets and doctrine can only be inferred from ritual descriptions and comments in thos anti-Gnostic texts. Nearly all surviving Gnostic records were written in the Coptic language, that resulted when Gnosticism spread to Egypt during the late 2nd century AD. The Nag Hammadi documents found in 1945 reflect those known Coptic translations, and represent the bulk of extant records and knowledge of Gnosticism, although they represent only a small portion of the original Gnostic record, texts, and beliefs.
Gnostic beliefs contained fantastic elements of mythology, and a cosmology consisting of multiple levels of heavens, each assigned to a divine being or overseer. It further involved many mystical conclusions and practices, with numerous elements different than the present Christian teachings. According to Gnostic researcher Professor G.R.S. Mead, author of the early 20th century book, "Fragments of a Faith Forgotten," the Gnostics believed that the gods were civilizers and teachers (mentors) of infant races; equating those Divine Instructors with the serpent.
Gnostic belief further revealed that the origins of humankind emerged from what was called a 'divine spark.' That divine spark was derived from the lesser divinities that 'fell to our world,' or were sent here by either higher divine beings or the Creator, and were then combined with a degenerate mortal lifeform of Earth, resulting in our human species. Humans were thus believed capable of reuniting with their higher divine elements, perhaps even attaining the level on which the Creator exists, by eliminating or overcoming (free will) the evil characteristics or faults retained by humanity. Such purging of all human 'character deficiencies' would produce a 'perfected being.' (Excellence/Moral/Spiritual) thus allowing such a 'corrected entity' to then return to its 'proper home' within the ethereal realm.
Some Gnostic sects even believed that the souls of humankind were completely alien to Earth, belonging to a different celestial realm.
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Cyrellys wrote:smelly_yolk wrote:All revelation is imagination.
The proto mind was our feelings most likely.
Imagine you can imagine anything, have fun, I certainly am.
It’s all make believe.
Who can make the muppets believe?
Who the fuck would waste their time on ones who can’t imagine or know they are?
Grin and nod
Grin and nod
Grin and nod
The perspective of SELF does not always translate to the TRUTHS of others.
History III wrote:One of Gnosticism's main 'lesser divinities' was Sophia, meaning 'Wisdom', who reportedly was 'not of Earth origin.' An evil god, the demiurge, later emerged from her family, taking credit for all past accomplishments; becoming known as and often called 'the creator'. Obviously a late arrival could not have created all that came before, and hence ccould not be the True Creator, the Supreme Force that initiated the Big Bang genesis of our Universe. The Gnostics identified that later god as Yahweh, the demiurge or 'living spirit', the one declared by many to be the God of the Old Testament. It was also thought that such a 'false god' made every effort to keep humanity in a state of ignorance, by concentrating only on material desires and goods, thereby keeping the celestial truth hidden from humans. That false god reportedly punished any attempt by humanity to acquire knowledge and truth.
For that reason the Gnostics did not associate God the Father of the New Testament, the Father of Jesu, with the God of the Old Testament; thus discounting the Old Testament texts and excluding those writings from their faith.
Gnosticism also did not accept that the Godhead had ever taken human form; hence neither Yahweh nor Jesu could be the true supreme Creator. The Gnostics knew that Yahweh was only one deity among many. He was often referred to as 'the God of Gods' and 'the Lord of Lords,' clearly signifying other gods and lords beside Himself. Originally, Yahweh was merely one of the Elohim, who were also called the Nefilim and the 'Genii of the Seven Planets.' The Gnostics identified Yahweh with evil, calling him Ialdabaoth (aka Ildabaoth), the Son of Darkness.
Ialdabaoth was also called the child of the egg, sometimes associating him with Manu of India. He was the son of Sophia Achamoth (aka Sophia Faith), who was the daughter of Sophia (aka Sophia Wisdom or the Divine Wisdom), who was both the Mother Goddess and the Holy Ghost of early Christianity.
Ialdabaoth is quoted as saying: "I am Father, and God, and above me there is no one." His mother (Sophia) replied: "Do not lie, Ialdabaoth; for the father of All, the primal Anthropos (the first man) is above thee, and so is Anthropos, the Son of Anthropos."
History IV wrote:Origen (c.185-c.254 AD) one of the foremost proponents of Gnosticism, was born in Alexandria Egypt. and was a student of Clement of Alexandria. He was a Christian layperson, writer, teacher, and theologian who spent 28 years instructing both pagans and Christians. He is generally considered t be the most accomplished Biblical scholar of the early Church, who specialized in Old Testament writings.
Origen developed the concept of Christ as the Logos, or Incarnate Word, the Father of Eternity. He believed that the Son is subordinate to the Father in power and dignity, and strongly believed in reincarnation. He was denied priesthood in the Church due to an ongoing political conflict with his regional Bishop.
The olden initiated Fathers of the Church, such as Clement of Alexandria (aka Clemens Alexandrinus) and Origen (aka Origenes), made specific references to what can be identified as the Ancient Ones. Origen, commenting on the Books of Celsus (which were destroyed by the Church Fathers) spoke of a ladder of creation with seven gates (remember the Seven Races of the Ancients aka Sephiroth), or Seven Heavens. Clement of Alexandria also wrote: "...these Heavenly Architects, emanate from the Great Supreme Infinite One (Universal Creative Consciousness aka Celtic Christian concept of GOD), and evolved the material universe from chaos." (aka Unum). These statements appear to be references to the Ancient Ones, as the builders and purveyors of civilization throughout the universe.
Further, the dragon was the symbol for the Logos of the Gnostics, yet another icon of the Ancient Ones.
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Sherkash Denatek=Greetings to all. First, Let's stop the nonsense. The space force is not new, not even close to new. The joke is "ET did not need to phone home because with our help we could have given him a ride home." That's right! Eisenhower inked out the beginnings of a new space force. As it grew and became a huge force it is now to big to cover up. There are colonies on Mars, Saturn and Titan. The Moon is simply over crowded and we still wonder if all humans live with their heads in a toilet bowl. Have none of you seen the moon on certain nights and not seen two of them? Hmmm... What does that mean? We know, we know, if this was true we would know about it. However, any 8 year old can grab a telescope and spend a week outside at night and see things he or she never knew existed. You all ask for disclosure then when we give you some you scoff, never mind time travel which was created by a Hybrid named Nikola Tesla. You may find it interesting to know President Trump's Uncle was Nikola Tesla's scientific partner and protege. A genius in his own right, it was President Trump's uncle who took possession of this fantastic technology so if you want to know why the President sometimes does things which seem too far out. Perhaps he already knew the answer? Actually, he did and does. We gave you the answer. President Trump has been grooming himself to be President since the 70's. Why do you think every country's leader, the Pope and the Rabbi from Russia all went to Antarctica two years ago? Actually, it was several reasons. The demonstration of time travel was only one. Meeting the "Hybrids" was the other. Yes! many of you refer to Hybrids as "The Watchers." Just be happy for the watching or you all would be in WW III if not for their protection of Earth=Tamia. Daniel Hybrid Nation
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
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