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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 5 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.  

    Thank you.  

    ............



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    Post by SurfBum Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:34 pm

    I'm with smelly

    No agenda

    No problem

    It takes care of itself doing nothing

    Ya...I'm bipolar

    So what?

    I met the darkness and fell in love with her

    We are connected at the hip

    Source is inseparable
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:02 pm

    You can’t have one without the other.

    Where you are in life is where you put yourself.

    Every place could be said to be the best place.

    Everything in its place.

    You say, get lost, and you are lost, just like that.

    We are so lost we don’t even know where we started.

    We just might blow ourselves up.

    Maybe we have many times.

    If I were eternal wouldn’t I be in a world just like this?

    How to act without deliberation is the way.

    You don’t give up thinking and become an antiintellectual.

    You learn to think spontaneously.

    Stand and walk, don’t wobble.

    Sit back and enjoy the ride I say.

    Easy livin and breathin to you all.

    **POOF**
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    Post by whoknows Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:13 am

    No limits man.
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:40 am

    No limits to love.  

    The sky, though, is limited

    Space and time are limited

    Because this is already the best possible world

    You can go search.... high and low

    You won’t find a better one

    Sorry, sports fans..... them’s the apples

    So now you go make apple pie.

    This is project Newton


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    Post by whoknows Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:02 am

    Love is the core, the springboard.

    Don't limit your view... I've never met or known of any one who could tell me what lay beyond the boarders of the parts of the universe we can perceive with our physical senses.

    And here I thought you were metaphysicalist not bound by the material.

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    Post by whoknows Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:43 am

    smelly wrote:
    Where you are in life is where you put yourself.

    Thing is it seems there are many people who have so little or no self esteem to know where they are much less to know where to put them selves. Lot of toxic stuff floating around.

    With our words we can effect profoundly... Being. Who do you want to be? Where do you want to be, yeah where do you want to be.

    Balance?

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    Post by SurfBum Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:15 am

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/the-sound-of-nothing-was-measured-at-room-temperature-and-it-will-help-us-find-cosmic-collisions/amp

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    Post by dan Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:24 am

    wk,

    When are you going to get it through your thick skull that there are quantitative limits?

    There are no qualitative limits.  

    They cannot both be unlimited.

    But you’re right........

    The main limitation to our unlimited potential is our lack of self esteem.  

    Society has been designed to kill our self esteem.  

    We now get to redesign society....... Communalism.......

    And we’re going to have to rebuild the ship of state, while we’re still at sea.

    Our safe harbor is still hidden by the fog.

    Some of us can hear the fog horns, however.



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    Post by whoknows Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:31 am

    Dan wrote:When are you going to get it through your thick skull that there are quantitative limits?

    Probably never. If there is, that is LOL.

    Hot Tuna
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:39 am

    wk,

    Just be patient with yourself.......

    All things come to all of us, in due course.  

    Just understand that once you have seen Paris, no one will be able to keep you down on the farm.  

    There exist many tricks to explain all of this to everyone.  

    But I would need your full attention.  

    Aaron might be able to explain this to you.  

    He might be my first student.  

    Aren’t you, Aaron?
    ....

    Aaron has to take care of his kids now.

    He’ll be back on, tonight.


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    Post by whoknows Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:46 am

    Thanks for that Dan, I'll keep that in mind.

    Now just draw me a map to Paris, while I dig the grass outa my ears. Or are they cow pies?... Hard to know the difference.Suspect
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:07 am

    All you need is an open mind...... and this is the place for that.  

    Yes, you came to the right place.  

    This is the temporary home of Paris...... thanks to Cyrellys.
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    Post by U Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:13 am

    [/quote]

    U, have to say that avatar of the young trustafarian cracks me up...

    Recently been surrounded by snowflakes... This trip has just gotten a lot stranger. [/quote]

    Thanks WK, fortunately or unfortunately I am quite the special snowflake. No trustfund however, besides the big cosmic one in the sky!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:15 am

    whoknows wrote:
    smelly wrote:
    Where you are in life is where you put yourself.

    Thing is it seems there are many people who have so little or no self esteem to know where they are much less to know where to put them selves. Lot of toxic stuff floating around.

    With our words we can effect profoundly... Being. Who do you want to be? Where do you want to be, yeah where do you want to be.

    Balance?


    No changes needed.

    You came fully loaded.

    So did everyone else.

    Can’t judge or moralize the circumsttances.

    Everyone is special, it doesn’t matter how they feel about it Wink

    There is what is.

    Bumb or rich man.

    Happy or sad.

    No difference Wink

    Very beautiful imperfection.

    All in its place.

    And yes, I won’t call it the best, but there is no place but here.
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:33 pm

    See, smelly doesn’t quite understand missions yet......

    He can relax because he’s a mission generalist.  

    I’m a mission specialist.  I can be relaxed , as long as I can see that things are on track.  

    Don’t I believe that everything will work out, regardless?  

    Yes, it will....... but there is a pretty big caveat.......

    Provided that we all stick to our protocols.  

    smelly’s protocol is to chill out.  

    Maybe, just maybe, that doesn’t have to be everyone’s protocol.....
    .......

    4:20........

    Our other job is to keep history on the right track

    History is not a machine...... well, it has many moving.... entangled parts.

    We steer from behind and in front..... just not in the present.




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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:58 pm

    No missions
    Nope nope nope
    Our only hope
    Rope a dope dope
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:59 pm

    Dan I do not say what others should do
    Have your hope and get a clue
    I am just here enjoying the view
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:22 pm

    That’s what you like to think..... folks who don’t know the Quantum.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:24 pm

    Kids are taking their nap now

    .........

    Yes Dan, we all have our own special roles to play

    We work together to set the table for the great harvest feast in the sky

    Smelly will hang out in the kitchen with Mama sampling the food to make sure it is just right

    The rest of us will work on setting the table and sending out the invitations

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:27 pm

    dan wrote:That’s what you like to think..... folks who don’t know the Quantum.  

    I don’t think
    I move at the speed of blink
    You go on and think
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:12 pm

    We are experiencing Morphogenesis.

    We self organize.

    Features emerge out of the featureless.

    We are emergent phonomena.

    Enjoy the show
    It’s chaos anywhere you go
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:35 pm

    It may seems like chaos anywhere you go until you begin to see patterns emerge

    Certainly eschatology deals a lot with chaos. Mother nature uses chaos as a way to cleanse the Earth when necessary.

    But as with everything else in the script, it too serves a purpose.

    Is our existence here on earth the result of God playing dice with us?

    As the Spirit of Truth in training I would turn Dan to ask him what he thinks about the role of chaos?

    Dan, what about chaos? Does chaos play a role in the best possible world?

    Is it chaos back home?

    Is OMF just chaos or is there truth hiding somewhere?

    Where should we look for truth in so much chaos?


    ........4:40.......

    I was speaking with Dan earlier today and he said there is a lot of mind numbing going on and that is mainly what we have to work on.

    Maybe chaos has something to do with all the mind numbing going on...

    Is there anything we need to do to self organize back to the monad?


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    Post by Cuan Scott Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:43 pm

    Aaron,

    Not that my opinion matters, but I think your driving as the apprentice SoT is excellent. Smile





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:50 pm

    Strange attractors

    Aaron is a lying illiterate pretender

    Dan is a babbling space monkey

    Strange attractors

    Truth and lies

    Can’t have one without the other

    You simply don’t know how to see as Mandelbrot did

    Pay attention

    Look real close

    The Trickster underpins it all fools

    Blink blink

    The math don’t lie

    Oh my oh my

    Infinite complexity fools

    We are just solar blue butterflies

    Flying around the source of light

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    You are delving into the Mandelbrot set

    The more you look

    The more you see

    Signposts pointing to

    Something deep and simple

    The object is complex

    The source is simple

    Look around and see the flocks of birds

    Watch the flock

    No leader or conscious plan

    Impossible to predict its behavior

    Ever

    So tell me about missions

    Quantum Jesters

    Strange attractors

    Self similars

    Output to input

    Input to output

    Complex and simple

    Two different points of view

    Of the same whole

    The flow here is swift

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    Orange blue raspberry pie

    Oh my oh my


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