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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:58 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 4 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

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    Post by whoknows Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:29 am

    I'm not a smelly goat but I can do smelly farts.

    Does that count?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:30 am

    Your mind is a loose noose
    It can squeeze you
    Or free you
    While we have no control
    We can let it flow
    It is only a momentary
    Glimpse Of eternity
    We can catch in the dream
    Enjoy the view
    Cause that’s all you will ever get
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:45 am

    Ha!
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    Post by whoknows Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:49 am

    Mesmerized children are playing, meant to be seen not heard
    Stop me from dreaming don’t be absurd

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01CnBGWvBpE&list=FLnbwInVpEKkXFC3UuEsCZHA&index=359&t=0s
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    Post by painterdoug Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:18 am

    smelly I hate to tell you, but I think you are a beautiful soul
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:26 am

    Smelly is just a fart in the wind

    Nothing special to see there
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:47 pm

    painterdoug wrote:smelly  I hate to tell you, but I think you are a beautiful soul

    I don’t have a soul dougiepoo and I’m heading for my apparent dream death.

    There is nothing outside or inside I can name.

    Sweet of you to project on me though.

    It’s a helluva ride is it not?!

    WoooooWheeeee

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    Post by SurfBum Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:18 pm

    Headed to your death?

    Bwahahaha!

    You are already dead, don't pretend you aren't.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:40 pm

    Haha.

    I said apparent death moron, pay attention.

    Zen muppet is a nice lap dog to have.

    He repeats everything I say Wink

    Heel boy.

    But I am dead inside, ‘tis true.

    I have no inner voice left.

    Did I break myself?

    I killed god and good.

    I shot that loud mouth Daimon between the eyes and it shut up.

    It was talking on and on about myth and the happening.

    This morning I was walking the tundra during the last ice age, that was fun.

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    THE RECEPTIVE

    Enlightenment comes only when you
    accept everything that is --
    without resistance, without quarrel,
    in complete stillness. This is the
    only, the simplest, the necessary
    ground of being for complete
    realization.

    The opportunity to dwell in quiet acceptance
    exists in every moment -- sitting, bathing,
    cleaning, cooking, working, wherever.
    When that moment passes, it is present
    in the next. Just embrace it.

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    Post by SurfBum Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:53 pm

    Hey, I'm not your bitch!

    I just found a surf board, so what?!

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:13 pm

    Haha
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:21 pm

    Some Zen Muppet chillstep coming down the pipe

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    Post by SurfBum Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:50 pm

    Physicists look for a theory of everything

    Their looking is part of IT

    The theory of everything = there is only what is

    It is nothing appearing as everything

    Non Duality

    The physicist looking for the theory of everything is looking for something he could never find

    When the looker dies and melts into the boundless, all that remains is what is....nothing appearing as everything

    The theory of everything can only be no theory

    No physicist will ever discover a theory of everything, for the moment the theory of everything is found it will be no theory and the apparent physicist will have vanished into the boundless.
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    Post by painterdoug Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:07 pm

    smelly goat said/
    THE RECEPTIVE

    Enlightenment comes only when you
    accept everything that is --
    without resistance, without quarrel,
    in complete stillness. ///

    so smelly, accept us muppets, no matter how foolish you judge us to be

    accept, accept, accept, and without judgement.

    of course you can choose not to , and reject enlightenment

    bwahahaha lets see the goat traverse these craggy cliffs ??
    I have confidence after some THOUGHT haha

    he will
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    Post by GSB/SSR Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:12 pm

    Portal party people come take my hand come away with me ...

    Traversable wormholes in four dimensions https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.04726




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    Post by painterdoug Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:16 pm

    gary/ not enough skin
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    Post by 99 Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:39 pm

    Aaron, wrt your last post, it's great to see that you're  doing a good job at maintaining your fiber intake but as for your cryptic references in it... wink, wink. That's all I'm going to say about it for now. 

    "Vanished into the boundless". Poor guy. lol
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    Post by 99 Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:10 pm

    GSB/SSR... on the other hand, your link to that academic paper on transversable wormholes in four dimensions gives us hope that there's a rainbow at the end of the tunnel after all that's beyond that dark, mysterious boundlessness that Aaron referred to. Will read that paper over but just knowing about such possibilities like that puts a smile on my face and a song in my heart! Thanks for the info!
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:44 pm

    99, The rainbow IS the mystery boundless nothing appearing as everything

    Fuck rainbows at ends of tunnels, that's an illusion.

    There is no end and there is no tunnel
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:54 pm

    painterdoug wrote:smelly goat said/  
    THE RECEPTIVE

    Enlightenment comes only when you
    accept everything that is --
    without resistance, without quarrel,
    in complete stillness. ///

    so smelly,  accept us muppets, no matter how foolish you judge us to be

    accept, accept, accept, and without judgement.

    of course you can choose not to , and reject enlightenment  

    bwahahaha     lets see the goat traverse these craggy cliffs  ??  
    I have confidence after some THOUGHT   haha

    he will

    Bwahahahaha!

    Nice try Doug

    Miles off, but still an amusing attempt

    Go write some music, maybe that will help you catch up.
    Wink
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    Post by 99 Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:03 pm

    But even illusions are "something" as opposed to nothing Aaron. Just saying that everything is an illusion is a colossal cop-out in terms of actually going through the process of formulating a theory of everything that's closer to the TRUTH.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:08 pm

    painterdoug wrote:smelly goat said/  
    THE RECEPTIVE

    Enlightenment comes only when you
    accept everything that is --
    without resistance, without quarrel,
    in complete stillness. ///

    so smelly,  accept us muppets, no matter how foolish you judge us to be

    accept, accept, accept, and without judgement.

    of course you can choose not to , and reject enlightenment  

    bwahahaha     lets see the goat traverse these craggy cliffs  ??  
    I have confidence after some THOUGHT   haha

    he will

    Did I say ever I didn’t accept you or anyone?

    1) You aren’t really here
    2) I don’t judge any appearances

    Of course I have to accept all of what is.

    I can’t pick and choose.

    Does that mean muppets aren’t stupid?

    Does that mean muppets aren’t distracted?

    Does that mean the smelly goat is not smelly?

    I am smelly so I know I’m here.

    I am only speaking about the appearances to my self.

    Stupid muppets need not notice or comment.

    But if they do, they get what they get.

    And they should be thankful I shit on them.

    As we are all only appearances who will die, it’s all game for fun.

    So relax and have fun.

    Perhaps you are one of the stupid muppets and you know how foolish you are, perhaps not.

    I don’t care.

    I only use the energy of the moment to make the mirror.

    What you do with the reflection is your business.

    **Muah**
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:11 pm

    GSB/SSR wrote:Portal party people come take my hand come away with me  ...

    Traversable wormholes in four dimensions  https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.04726



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