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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:22 pm

    Whether you want to accept it or not, you are here now too.

    If you knew and lived from that awareness, the muppets would get bored, so I get why you and Foot act so silly.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:25 pm

    True, smelly, we are both here, but only one of us has clue about from whence we came.
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    Post by hobbit Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:27 pm

    Dan,

    the fundamental question of existence is chance.

    Two entities combined seeds, at a precise time, those seeds made a vehicle....Me.

    But me the vehicle is not Me the eternal...driver of vehicle.

    I chose my mother who was carrying a vehicle, I jumped into the vehicle.

    Your virgin birth covers this understanding, but told it as a story.

    The seeds need a duality of spin flows of consciousness to enable vehicle in 3D to become it.

    But there are multiple dimensions where consciousness resides, and where our eternal selves reside, and those eternals seek novelty, experience, which is available best in 3D.

    There is no super dude called god, stop looking for a prop, take responsibility for been the fabulous eternal self You are.

    It's one big difficult system to crack open, and the castle walls ( religions) have built very good defences ( for good reasons)

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:27 pm

    dan wrote:True, smelly, we are both here, but only one of us has clue about from whence we came.  

    And it ain’t you.

    Bahahahaha

    Ok, let’s move on, we have firmly established your confusion.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:31 pm

    “Where can I find a man who has forgotten words so I can talk with him?”

    —Zhuangzi
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:34 pm

    hobbit,

    At least you’re making the college try.........C+.


    smelly,

    I kinda like it here. I’m not inclined to move on.



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    Post by Cuan Scott Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:36 pm

    Dan,

    Is there not but one mind in what we call the universe?

    Therefore the 'I am' is because 'We are'
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:38 pm

    Thank you, Scott.

    Now we’re making progress.......
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    Post by hobbit Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:40 pm

    dan wrote:hobbit,

    At least you’re making the college try.........C+.  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tccpGP80oik

    Hardly ever went to school...went fishing instead.

    Words are no thing to me, no sense.

    I will not conform to any such system that is flawed, no measure meets what I detect, our ancestors were close, thus I haunt megalithic sites to revel in their oneness to the system.

    We have forgotten, the time is here to remember, to be at one again with ourselves.
    not with any tin pot idol.

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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:44 pm

    We're all on the same team Muppets.

    Smelly doesn't need to change and neither does Dan, believe it or not, everyone has everything they need already and are enough as they are.

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    Post by dan Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:47 pm

    You are getting warmer, hobbit........

    You refer to Oneness........ what does that mean to you?  

    Where did the Oneness come from?

    Why is there not a Twoness?


    Sorry, Aaron, but we are not enough as we are....

    We have quite fulfilled our potential, yet.


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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:51 pm

    The Monad is the high source of the Pleroma.

    Both concepts are just that...concepts.

    Where do concepts come from?

    A person.


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    Post by dan Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:52 pm

    Aaron,

    Thank you........ A+!


    Oops.........  

    Concept....... just a concept?

    I think I’ll have to lower that to A-.


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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:53 pm

    Good, now give me a Kudos so I can catch up to Smelly!

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    Post by hobbit Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:56 pm

    Dan.

    Nobody made all of this.

    Stop trying to defer responsibility on a maker.

    This You ask is nonsense, like these big bang nutters.
    I would ask where did the material to enable a big bang come from.

    Universe is .

    It's STUFF

    Whatever this stuff is, it enables the creation We are.


    Sound is the most reasonable base, hence in the beginning was a sound.


    Maybe one blob of this stuff hit another and the sound travelled about the geometry and eventually made ...Dan.



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    Post by dan Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:59 pm

    Ok, hobbit, you’re progressing......... B-.

    And, if chicken little is God, then I’d have to give you a B+.


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    Post by hobbit Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:00 pm

    dan wrote:Ok, hobbit, you’re progressing......... B-.


    Oh , thank You master.

    Who's marking thee?

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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:00 pm

    Okay, I take it back Dan...

    I conceive that concepts are not just concepts...

    There is nothing that is not concept.


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    Post by dan Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:03 pm

    Aaron,

    You’re getting back up there........ A-+.......


    hobbit,

    Who is marking me.......?

    I ask foot the similar question....... who’s in charge? I want to talk to that person........ well, I guess you’ll have to talk to yourself, then.

    Yes, there are two ways to interpret that admonition.



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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:08 pm


    Logos wins the day!

    But you forget about the unmanifest and unconceived Dan...

    To get a sense of this you have to walk backwards using intuition and imagination.

    It's a feeling of freedom when you find IT.

    Logos and source imply each other.

    The unnamable logos opposite wins the night.
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    Post by hobbit Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:09 pm

    A sound source (not uttered by some giant god) in a geometric lattice grid will always try to return to source.


    This will trigger self similar return waves about it, but at fractionally variant routes.

    Attunement will result in a recognition .

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:10 pm

    What hobbit mentions I conceptualize as the Sage or the Daimon or the Holy Gaurdian Angel, if I have to talk to muppets about it.

    I didn’t say Dan had to change, I accept him confused and all.

    It’s more fun this way.

    I also wouldn’t judge the experience of others.

    I am always here comparing the common experience.

    I mark Dan.

    He gets a 0, but he won’t get it Wink


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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:12 pm

    I likez what Hobbit says...

    Attunement will result in a recognition.

    Not all recognition is done through reason...there are subtler senses...
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:14 pm

    Intuition is the key to the awareness you describe.

    Doing not doing.

    Spontaneous action.
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:15 pm

    smelly wrote:
    I didn’t say Dan had to change, I accept him confused and all.

    It’s more fun this way.


    Indeed it is

    I didn't say you said Dan had to change.

    Hehe


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