Immaterialism 4

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This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

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Whether you want to accept it or not, you are here now too.

If you knew and lived from that awareness, the muppets would get bored, so I get why you and Foot act so silly.

True, smelly, we are both here, but only one of us has clue about from whence we came.

Dan,

the fundamental question of existence is chance.

Two entities combined seeds, at a precise time, those seeds made a vehicle....Me.

But me the vehicle is not Me the eternal...driver of vehicle.

I chose my mother who was carrying a vehicle, I jumped into the vehicle.

Your virgin birth covers this understanding, but told it as a story.

The seeds need a duality of spin flows of consciousness to enable vehicle in 3D to become it.

But there are multiple dimensions where consciousness resides, and where our eternal selves reside, and those eternals seek novelty, experience, which is available best in 3D.

There is no super dude called god, stop looking for a prop, take responsibility for been the fabulous eternal self You are.

It's one big difficult system to crack open, and the castle walls ( religions) have built very good defences ( for good reasons)

hobbit

dan wrote:True, smelly, we are both here, but only one of us has clue about from whence we came.  

And it ain’t you.

Bahahahaha

Ok, let’s move on, we have firmly established your confusion.

“Where can I find a man who has forgotten words so I can talk with him?”

—Zhuangzi

hobbit,

At least you’re making the college try.........C+.


smelly,

I kinda like it here. I’m not inclined to move on.



(cont.......)

Dan,

Is there not but one mind in what we call the universe?

Therefore the 'I am' is because 'We are'

Thank you, Scott.

Now we’re making progress.......

dan wrote:hobbit,

At least you’re making the college try.........C+.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tccpGP80oik

Hardly ever went to school...went fishing instead.

Words are no thing to me, no sense.

I will not conform to any such system that is flawed, no measure meets what I detect, our ancestors were close, thus I haunt megalithic sites to revel in their oneness to the system.

We have forgotten, the time is here to remember, to be at one again with ourselves.
not with any tin pot idol.

hobbit

We're all on the same team Muppets.

Smelly doesn't need to change and neither does Dan, believe it or not, everyone has everything they need already and are enough as they are.

You are getting warmer, hobbit........

You refer to Oneness........ what does that mean to you?  

Where did the Oneness come from?

Why is there not a Twoness?


Sorry, Aaron, but we are not enough as we are....

We have quite fulfilled our potential, yet.


(cont......)

The Monad is the high source of the Pleroma.

Both concepts are just that...concepts.

Where do concepts come from?

A person.

Aaron,

Thank you........ A+!


Oops.........  

Concept....... just a concept?

I think I’ll have to lower that to A-.

Good, now give me a Kudos so I can catch up to Smelly!

Dan.

Nobody made all of this.

Stop trying to defer responsibility on a maker.

This You ask is nonsense, like these big bang nutters.
I would ask where did the material to enable a big bang come from.

Universe is .

It's STUFF

Whatever this stuff is, it enables the creation We are.


Sound is the most reasonable base, hence in the beginning was a sound.


Maybe one blob of this stuff hit another and the sound travelled about the geometry and eventually made ...Dan.



hobbit

Ok, hobbit, you’re progressing......... B-.

And, if chicken little is God, then I’d have to give you a B+.

dan wrote:Ok, hobbit, you’re progressing......... B-.

Oh , thank You master.

Who's marking thee?

hobbit

Okay, I take it back Dan...

I conceive that concepts are not just concepts...

There is nothing that is not concept.

Aaron,

You’re getting back up there........ A-+.......


hobbit,

Who is marking me.......?

I ask foot the similar question....... who’s in charge? I want to talk to that person........ well, I guess you’ll have to talk to yourself, then.

Yes, there are two ways to interpret that admonition.



(cont.......)

Logos wins the day!

But you forget about the unmanifest and unconceived Dan...

To get a sense of this you have to walk backwards using intuition and imagination.

It's a feeling of freedom when you find IT.

Logos and source imply each other.

The unnamable logos opposite wins the night.

A sound source (not uttered by some giant god) in a geometric lattice grid will always try to return to source.


This will trigger self similar return waves about it, but at fractionally variant routes.

Attunement will result in a recognition .

hobbit

What hobbit mentions I conceptualize as the Sage or the Daimon or the Holy Gaurdian Angel, if I have to talk to muppets about it.

I didn’t say Dan had to change, I accept him confused and all.

It’s more fun this way.

I also wouldn’t judge the experience of others.

I am always here comparing the common experience.

I mark Dan.

He gets a 0, but he won’t get it

I likez what Hobbit says...

Attunement will result in a recognition.

Not all recognition is done through reason...there are subtler senses...

Intuition is the key to the awareness you describe.

Doing not doing.

Spontaneous action.

smelly wrote:
I didn’t say Dan had to change, I accept him confused and all.

It’s more fun this way.

Indeed it is

I didn't say you said Dan had to change.

Hehe