Immaterialism 4

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I have 4 Kudos...

The last shall be first...I win!

smelly, hmmm........... age before beauty.....


Aaron, maybe we’ll need to change that rule.  I’ll bring it up at the next committee meeting........

You do that...

Pass along a middle finger and a wink for the President while you're at it.

Damn, Aaron is right, never pays to be an early adopter

Oh yah, if can talk to Trump Dan, tell him the smelly goat thinks he’s a smelly ass.

I’d rather be a smelly goat.

Just a preference.

Who is the President of the council anyway?

As long as its not the Princess you can pass along a middle finger for me.

I wouldn't want to start a fight with her...

Joe is unopposed for Council president.  He thinks it’s the galactic council.  I’m not sure if it even exists.


smelly,

Middle finger for the other president...... ?

Well, I think we should compliment him for his warm up act.

Perfect...

I said tell him he is a smelly ass.

Please don’t quote the smelly goat, you always mangle the translation.

smelly,

Ok, I’ll just compliment him on his deodorant.  

I’m sure that donny will be relieved to know that he has a smelly acquaintance.  I think he was getting lonely.


Things are getting more complicated........

It now seems that we have three presidential slots in the picture.......

The President, the president of the Coincil and POJG, which I had thought was petty officer junior grade.  It’s not, nor is it president of the Jagdgeschwader.  

And there is an outing that may involve some of the above, including skai.  

It seems that we have a lot of chiefs and no indians...... or is it too many chefs. There might have to be a shakedown cruise.



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I am an old friend of Joe and I am fully supportive of Joe and his quest. Often when people become fully dedicated to a quest they give up the normal human drives for money and property. Joe used the wealth he acquired from creating several successful companies in his current quest. His dedication to achieving understanding and enlightenment is simply greater than his desire for money and property. He is surrounded by people who share in his dream, dedicating their time and effort in the pursuit of that dream. The work going on in that "garage" may just be the most significant work going on anywhere in the world, and losing his wealth and property in the process might just be the least significant loss imaginable in this small world.

....... on this best possible holodeck, we call the Earth......?

Hopefully, at least, Joe and Doug are entertaining this possibility.

Just speaking to Grant. He's says he's very happy to hear Ron's posting

Foot Mann wrote:I am an old friend of Joe and I am fully supportive of Joe and his quest. Often when people become fully dedicated to a quest they give up the normal human drives for money and property. Joe used the wealth he acquired from creating several successful companies in his current quest. His dedication to achieving understanding and enlightenment is simply greater than his desire for money and property. He is surrounded by people who share in his dream, dedicating their time and effort in the pursuit of that dream. The work going on in that "garage" may just be the most significant work going on anywhere in the world, and losing his wealth and property in the process might just be the least significant loss imaginable in this small world.

Losing his wealth was a great thing for him, whether he realizes this or not is entirely dependent on how clear he is about it.

Life is too short to live for others’ dreams.

These dualists, sigh...

It’s a great thing for anyone to lose their wealth and trust the flow.

Not trust in man or his mechanizations, but trust in your self.

To follow the Sage within is the only salvation from confusion and ignorance.

It’s unnatural to hord wealth.

No Foot, the most significant thing in the world is what is going on inside of you.

Joe’s work is only a benefit or curse for him.

You really don’t know how this world works, do you Foot?

I thought you were smart.

You seem very very dumb to me.

Blind leading here.

Just my smelly opinion dudez, you are welcome to yourz of course.

“So if you have a true perception of how things are, abandon any concern for reputation, and be satisfied if you can just live the rest of your life, whatever remains, the way your nature wishes. You must consider, then, what those wishes are, and then let nothing else distract you. You know from experience that in all your wanderings you have nowhere found the good life, not in logic, not wealth, not in glory, not in indulgence, nowhere. Where than is it to be found? In doing what man’s nature requires. And how is he to do this? By having principles to govern his impulses and actions.”

—Marcus Aurelius

It may be that the mystics are turning out to be the dualists.  

They see the inner and outer worlds as juxtaposed.  This may be their basic error.  

They wish to rend asunder, that which God has joined.

The true mystic would not make such an error.

smelly may be a wolf/goat, dressed in a mystic’s clothing.

A lesson learned.

He is the one who is trying to confuse all of us.


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Foot Mann wrote:I am an old friend of Joe and I am fully supportive of Joe and his quest. Often when people become fully dedicated to a quest they give up the normal human drives for money and property. Joe used the wealth he acquired from creating several successful companies in his current quest. His dedication to achieving understanding and enlightenment is simply greater than his desire for money and property. He is surrounded by people who share in his dream, dedicating their time and effort in the pursuit of that dream. The work going on in that "garage" may just be the most significant work going on anywhere in the world, and losing his wealth and property in the process might just be the least significant loss imaginable in this small world.

The most important comprehension is nothing to do with a positive debt or negative debt situation, or in the construction/s of 3D physical things.
It is becoming attuned with consciousness, and the variant realities that enables.

3d physical things can locally alter this, but it takes two to tango, and the connections will vary relative to the living beings field diameter.


One living being can be stood aside another and not experience the same as the other.


This is where the very young excel, they have huge field diameters (I can detect and measure this)

One Fibonacci field diameter must mesh with another.

0,1,1,0,2,,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233...……….

dan wrote:It may be that the mystics are turning out to be the dualists.  

They see the inner and outer worlds as juxtaposed.  This may be their basic error.  

They wish to rend asunder, that which God has joined.  

Who is this "god"

Stop defaulting to programming, it is not real.


hobbit

dan wrote:It may be that the mystics are turning out to be the dualists.  

They see the inner and outer worlds as juxtaposed.  This may be their basic error.  

They wish to rend asunder, that which God has joined.  

I disagree with you about most things Dan, this is another.

You have it all backwards

You didn’t learn you have to walk backwards to see straight on.

Embrace the mystical flow and you can experience this your self

Mystical, what an overused word, we should retire it.

Unlike Foot, I am not here to confuse or delude people, I just see it all straight on.

So far apart, yet next to each other???
Hobbit/smelly?

hobbit,

God is our collective higher Self, who turns out to be a person, rather like ourselves.

Otherwise, hobbit, explain your own Source. Where did you come from...... from your mother’s belly?

Show me where god is Dan, other than your breath and the sun and your mind and your heart and the green?

I’d love to meet the one your talking to and for

Why are you not giving people life Dan and showing them the way to the Sage within?

No device holds any hope for anyone.

Why are you all trying to deceive people Dan?

For their good or for your friends’ benefit?

Do you remember your face before you were born Dan?

smelly,

And I ask you the same question....... where did you come from...... your own navel?

This is going to get out of hand again.

Hobbit and I are sharing the direct experience which is final participation.

You might want to pay attention Dan until you can have the direct experience of being your self.

You aren’t ever going to convince hobbit and I of what we directly know silly rabbit.

Until then, your opinions are very cute, but you ain’t been inside my friend it seems and lived to tell the tale.

You still speak of the inner experience dualistically.

It’s not, it’s all happening together.

Hobbit and I don’t agree with you and foot Dan.

So what?

Let’s move on, we have noted our opinions and you can continue...

If your work is to gauge the reaction of the muppet to your work, this muppet is saying it’s negative, which is positive ultimately too

smelly,

You refuse to answer the fundamental question of existence.  

Maybe hobbit will have more courage.

Would anyone else out there have the courage to answer a simple question?  

Maybe I’ll have to answer it myself. The answer is a bit of a surprise, even to chicken little.

I almost gave it away, inadvertently.



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I am here.

This is the answer.

That’s all I know.

I don’t understand it.

Straight onz.

Any other answer is a lie or confusion.

We are all always here now.

Join me.

The water and margaritas are great great great!

Sorry, smelly....... D+.

Your walls are closing in on you, goat boy.......

You are about to fall past your own event horizon.