With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
“Nature’s first green is gold, Her hardest hue to hold. Her early leaf’s a flower; But only so an hour. Then leaf subsides to leaf. So Eden sank to grief, So dawn goes down to day. Nothing gold can stay.”
—Robert Frost - “Nothing Gold Can Stay”
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“If someone can prove me wrong and show me my mistake in any thought or action, I shall gladly change. I seek the truth, which never harmed anyone: the harm is to persist in one's own self-deception and ignorance.”
"The crazy hermit of Cold Mountain." They say: "His face is butt-ugly," "His rags smell of mange,” “Everything he utters is jabberwocky,” “Anything we say dumbs his ears!"
He saw a war between Luciferian and Ahrimanic forces.
Gnostic? Kinda.
Rudy believed Jesus was the incarnation of Christ that initiated our era.
The only wisdom of any value is that which is suffered for he felt, I’d agree.
I know he is right, it is not pleasure and inner peace that guides us, we live in between and clear thinking must be fought for and pulled back out of the chaos with courage.
We moved away from the pagan light of Lucifer into a war with Ahriman, led by Christ.
Ok ok, I see this is the old story.
The Primeval wisdom has run dry.
Steiner would say that today’s culture and technology have been evil distractions from Ahriman.
I am drawn to Goethe as Steiner is for similar reasons.
He did science while participating with what he observed.
They were both great scientists, good observers who asked deep questions.
Many strange synchronicities personally with this material.
I have been studying this theme that science has been totally corrupted by unfalsifiable theories.
Enter Epstein.
Karl Popper is a big help here.
My path has not been by myself alone or by just my own choice.
Could these be ancient AIs, Lucifer and Ahriman?
Our Luciferian masters wanted good automatons and wanted us to avoid evolution so says Steiner.
Steiner had visions and saw spirits his whole life.
Ahriman and Lucifer, the fallen angels. Interestingly, Steiner does not make a straight distinction between Good on the one hand and Evil on the other. Instead he has two poles of Evil, which he calls Lucifer and Ahriman.
Two poles of evil feels closer to reality.
Don’t pick a side.
But realize, you can take your life where you will.
You can know your will and participate with it.
These beings can apparently live in and feed off of our emotions.
I have witnessed this mind virus infecting people through fear and mistrust.
It is happening.
Magick has been used on them.
What did Steiner mean we have lost the Primeval wisdom?
I can guess.
Where did he get his info?
Channeled nonsense?
I think it would be wise to look into Rudolf Steiner.
He is a very influential person and taken seriously by the elite and intellectual.
The elite are magical beings.
One must be developed.
Trump is connected to all of this.
The spirit of Ahriman cannot take hold of me.
Though you feel its touch all over, always trying to gain a foothold.
This is a good finding.
And I have some sense of how I have avoided that magick.
But also, I have felt the deep pull of the Luciferian.
The Dark Ones beckon.
Scary shit.
Not to be toyed with.
But there can be a mutual respect.
This is happening in my imaginal world, which I think is the space they live in.
The Ahrimanic drive differentiates and luciferian is mono.
God’s beautiful children, uh huh.
Quite a story I must say and difficult to approach.
Any less so than the Core story?
Isn’t the Core story just a retelling of the big story, the Big Lie?
Humans are so divided left and right, colored and white, we are falling right into the intended pattern.
It is terrifying to behold, as the tentacles stretch out before your eyes, even consuming the ones you loved and trusted.
I know why I have been made to suffer isolation and shunning, living death of my family.
It would be better maybe to be a zombie and more fun to be a luciferian or Ahrimanic power.
Why all the fuss?
Because there is a prize.
It shines like no light a human eye could see.
Being here is difficult and with every joy, there is pain.
Christ, huh?
Christ is the way?
This is the life of Christ then.
The obstacle is the way.
Do I feel manipulated by culture and their way of life?
Of course.
But I am of the earth now.
Do I feel a connection to my home and tribe and kind?
Of course.
Can we venture beyond our home grounds?
Yes and we should.
Are we discouraged from doing so?
Of course.
Why?
Why was so much hidden from me until now?
Because this is when I should know.
We have free will.
We can fight and in fact, must fight all these influences.
And the best way to fight is to flow like water with it.
Form with it.
We have to become very intimate with our greatest enemies, who actually are our truest friends.
The world has a green tinge to me now.
The earth has given me part of her great power and it has brought healing and knowledge of things I might not want to have known.
But more than all of this, what you do matters and how you live matters.
It does.
And ultimately, we have to be suspicious of the forces that would distract us and bring us bliss.
We have to be careful what we pay attention to.
We are easy to fool.
No one can fool you better than yourself.
One must learn themselves to tell the difference between dreams and reality.
It certainly seems the world offers us magick not built on skill, but bought.
That way is death and control.
The darkness would inflate your form to the size of the cosmos if it could.
Pressurizing here in the middle, is the art of life.
I don’t know if Rudy Steiner was right, he was right for his time maybe, certainly fancied himself a prophet with teaching to share, which makes me suspect him.
It kind of pisses me off to imagine entities dedicated to turning the world into stone.
Rudy certainly stirred up trouble.
And I think it wise to run to trouble.
To know and live and embody wisdom as much as you can to make it through this mess.
Do I know if death is just like changing your clothes?
I can’t live that way.
So I can’t be a Luciferian, but I make my living working for the Ahrimanic.
Quite a pickle.
The earth beckons me back.
I live and sleep in her wild heart on cold mountain.
I am thankful for the gravity that keeps me on earth and for the earth under my feet and the wind I feel on my body and drink, that keeps me alive.
I am glad nature dwells with me with through all these creatures and processes.
I am not sure how thankful I am to think.
But seeing the stupid, I prefer to know the difference and be smart and wise.
Why can’t this be Star Trek?
Are we not trekking through the stars together?
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Some critic tried to put me down – “Your poems lack the basic truth of Tao” And I recall the old-timers Who were poor and didn’t care. I have to laugh at him, He misses the point entirely, Men like that Ought to stick to making money.
I know that you're not a big fan of crazy town and their conspiracy theories but I thought you should know that Daniel Liszt at the Dark Journalist YT channel has been doing an excellent job going over Steiner's work in regard to the 8th sphere and Ahriman in his fabulous X Series that has been going on for a number of years.
I know that you're not a big fan of crazy town and their conspiracy theories but I thought you should know that Daniel Liszt at the Dark Journalist YT channel has been doing an excellent job going over Steiner's work in regard to the 8th sphere and Ahriman in his fabulous X Series that has been going on for a number of years.
Yes, I have poked me head up that 8th sphere’s arse indeed.
The swastika is at the core of creation into 3D physical. It is a view from above or below the pole of creation with the circulations about the northern and southern hemisphere of consciousness circulating the pole and then entering along the pole in spiral fashion.
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