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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:05 pm

    If I annoy you, you are annoyed with your own animal ignorance and stupidity, let it go.

    We are doing an amazing thing here.

    We are demonstrating the commonality and eternity of mind over matter.

    You are invited to become aware that your Mind is common and shared by all Humans. Imagine if we all accepted the Truth.

    I am not an immaterialist or dualist or materialist or atheist or extentialist.

    I am a Human Being given a common mind with dominion over a body.

    Humanities bond is one of eternal mind, not creed or seed, you are my brothers and sisters in mind.

    “That in a short while you will be nobody and nowhere; and the same of all that you now know and see and all who are now alive. It is the nature of all things to change, to perish and be transformed, so that in succession different things can come to be.

    That all is as thinking makes it so – and you control your thinking. So remove your judgments whenever you wish and then there is calm – as a sailor rounding the Cape find smooth water and the welcome of a waveless bay.” —Marcus Aurelius - Meditations Book 12:21-22

    Sounds like a great way to die Wink

    Union as a mind wholly embodied is to be a God on Earth and nothing less.

    The muppets are powerless before us.

    Muhahahahahahaha
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    Post by U Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:27 pm

    Phone call was fun!

    Now you know I come in peace.

    I hope my presence wasn't too disruptive but I have a good feeling about this.

    You all clearly have this disclosure business under control.

    Steady on.

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    Post by dan Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:03 pm

    Thanks, KoL, you met the Antipublicist for the antichrist. Now I know how the lake works, maybe. And so it goes, on the virtual endless fake phone call in the restaurant at the end of the universe. We can all check in, but we can’t check out. A loophole in the physics meets a loophole in the metaphysics..... silicon meets carbon, as joe would say..... and ne’er the twain shall part.
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    Post by Cuan Scott Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:26 pm

    Thanks Dan,

    Phone call was good today Smile

    KoL - Nice chatting with you also

    Just settled the ponies for the night and checking back in. Is the call now over or are you all in the Restaurant at the edge of the Universe?
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    Post by cwallatruth Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:08 pm

    Gah! Missed the call. Any major new revelations ?

    Dan,
    Weird stuff going on lately. Is the Sky falling?
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    Post by dan Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:48 pm

    I remember being so frustrated with wcm when he wouldn’t tell me how the portal worked.  

    I’m beginning to be a bit more sympathetic.......  it’s so complicated, it’s simple..... maybe.  

    To make a portal, you have to use everything and the squeal.  

    Is there going to be a portal race?  Yes..... the loser wins.  


    cw,

    Maybe, and portals can be walking hubs of synchronicity.

    When the synchronicities on one side match the other...... better keep your head down.  

    God does not play dice...... it just looks that way sometime.  

    And, yes, there is more than a bit of complementarity.  It pretty much goes with the entanglement..... sticky wickets, thank goodness.  

    It’s frustrating...... Felix culpa......

    We’re turning our selves inside out..... one molecule at a time.  Flower in the crannied wall...... smelly knows....... we’re just two sides of the same portal.  

    Portals within portals within portals....... we don’t have to go there..... they come to us.  

    They’re coming to eat us...... purple people eaters..... munch, munch, sports fans.

    Purple ego eaters. smelly wins by a mile.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:59 am

    Ha

    I really have been enjoying Jung’s The Red Book.

    Hint hint

    It’s a guide on how to work with portals.

    I’m not kidding.

    I’ll use religious jargon to try to describe a little more of the plot.

    It’s a guide book to the soul.

    And then the devil will come to you as joy and dancing and nihilism and hedonism, don’t become the devil, accept that devil in you, watch out though, it will never stop sawing the limb off you stand on, lies lies lies.

    And you have to take some joy from the devil when you dance with it and give up some seriousness and fear in return.

    This is how it works, the white bird of the soul only comes to the lowly.

    To the conquered and integrated Human Being.

    If you are a typical man or woman, you walk between two artificial walls and are far from soul and are only half whole.

    Woe to you.

    There is a Way.
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    Post by dan Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:24 am

    No way......

    American 211, do you have a smelly goat at twelve o’clock?

    Yeah, breaker one-nine
    This here's the Rubber Duck
    You got a copy on me Pig Pen, c'mon?
    Uh, yeah, Ten-Four Pig Pen, fer sure, fer sure
    By golly it's clean clear to Flag Town, c'mon
    Yeah, its a big Ten-Four there, Pig Pen
    Yeah, we definitely got the front door, Good Buddy
    Mercy sakes alive, looks like we've got us a convoy

    No problemo, Houston, this is tranquility base.

    Ok, we just need a cameo, somewhere behind Ivanka.

    And we found the leak at the lake.  It was Kashmir.  Darn those plumbers.  

    It must have been the missing 18’, and then it shows up at 15’.


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    Post by cwallatruth Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:41 am

    "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
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    Post by cwallatruth Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:43 am

    Smelly is leading me down a path... a path I can't yet see clearly, but I know it's there. Perhaps it's a portal to my soul. Perhaps it's my soul's organized idea wanting to burst free. Perhaps my ego is manifesting these wannabe concepts to give itself meaning as I slip into a dark insanity. I'm already insane. It's my shadow that I can't yet meet face to face. I know I will, I must.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXezhsp8CHw
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    Post by dan Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:28 am

    cw,

    Watch out for that goat....... he’s checking his list and checking it twice.......

    Now you understand how the lake works.

    We just need to explain this to bk, which we were trying to do on the telethon.  We explain it to each other...... you know the story about the blind men......

    We’re just like the make a wish foundation.......  usually the kids ask for a trip to Disneyworld...... which is sort of like bringing coals to Newcastle.  Yes?

    To Bk........
    Nothing more fun than gaming the system.  Owning it can be a drag?
    .... all those complaints..... you can’t imagine.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:31 am

    That’s interesting what Dan said.

    Last night I was reading about wish fulfillment, which is the source of Magick and religion.

    See, the story isn’t the phonomena really, it is finding out who you are, which is the big reveal.

    The sociological aspect is the real story.

    Tech is nothing compared to Awareness.

    So we have a lot of still distracted muppets, especially among the investigators.

    This is why poets are born and smelly goats.

    Dan called out to his strange network, his ‘wierd’ crude listening device is interesting.

    Not sure exactly what he’s caught yet or been caught by.

    The actors are not important ultimately, so look into the story of you deeply.

    You are going to realize something kinda profound if you do so authentically.


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    Post by SurfBum Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:12 am

    Dan,

    What is the lake and what is the pond by the lake?

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    Post by SurfBum Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:08 am

    CW,

    https://youtu.be/gSkIwwdT79E

    https://youtu.be/F6p_n98jRdk
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    Post by cwallatruth Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:09 pm

    dan wrote:

    To Bk........
    Nothing more fun than gaming the system.  Owning it can be a drag?
    .... all those complaints..... you can’t imagine.  

    Dan,
    I'm guessing I should know by now... but who is BK?
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    Post by dan Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:07 pm

    ck,

    bk is bob k.

    The lake is the salt lake.

    The pond is tmi. You’ll have to call me, but I’m already on the with bk, explaining the pond to him.
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    Post by cwallatruth Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:40 pm

    TheSloth wrote:CW,

    https://youtu.be/gSkIwwdT79E

    https://youtu.be/F6p_n98jRdk

    Thanks, Sloth!
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    Post by SurfBum Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:01 pm

    The pond is the pond.

    The way is the way.

    The play is the play.

    The game is the game.

    The appearance is the appearance.

    The Dude is the Dude.

    Straight on.

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    Post by SurfBum Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:09 pm

    cwallatruth wrote:
    TheSloth wrote:CW,

    https://youtu.be/gSkIwwdT79E

    https://youtu.be/F6p_n98jRdk

    Thanks, Sloth!

    Don't mention it.

    Wink

    I'm just enjoying the show and ride of the metamorphosis of others enjoying the show and ride of the metamorphosis.



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    Post by SurfBum Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:49 pm

    Dan, I was just kidding.

    I know who and what the lake and the pond are referring to.



    Distractions and captions for the limited factions.

    The Sloth and the Goat watching muppets reactions.

    Up here on Cold Mountain humming songs of red pines.

    While the muppets below run in circles of time.

    What gate marks the way of the harlequin gypsies?

    What road leads the way of the wandering hippies?

    The road that's less traveled is the road deep with mud.

    So take off your shoes and just dance with the FUD.

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    Post by GSB/SSR Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:52 pm

    All the dumb things? UFO project has $37 million deficit

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/10/all-the-dumb-things-blink-182-front-mans-ufo-project-37-million/


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:03 pm

    Everyone had to get lost and go through the valley up to the top of the misty mountain.

    If you find the stream follow it up the mountain and if you find the tree on the mountain, climb up into heaven.

    Everyone is where they are and isn’t that the best don't you know.

    Don’t ask for permission, you have the authority of the guru yourself.

    No degree marks Awareness, your life is the mirror.

    When the fool has taken their place again beside the king and queen you will be a Human Being.

    Then you can have some fun.

    Take the car for a spin.

    Then you can be trusted with all you needed.

    I have a new project and focus.

    Big Mind

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/0300188374/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_6qxXBbP4M25H0

    Big Mind is the organizing principle between chaos and order.

    You can’t get rid of chaos.

    Eden is a walled space.

    Once Big Mind has your attention, the left and right brain hemispheres join, UFO phonomena is just one aspect of this as are psychedelics.

    People could be safe or strong.

    Strong is better.

    Life is not safe, it’s fatal.

    The unlimited lacks the limited.

    Yuh are the limit of the unlimited Big Mind.

    This is yin yang.

    Too much of anything is too much.

    Shifting from order and chaos is exhausting.

    But we must go back and forth.

    If the left brain inhibits the right hemisphere because the right is aggregating anomalies and begins to see patterns and then the right brain thinks this is a better map and it overrides the left and then a person will shift over, this accounts for massive personality shifts.

    We descend into chaos and then resurrect ourselves with a better theory and operating system.

    Chaos has your software updates from Big Mind.

    You need to update your local hardware.

    Psychedelics are Magick here.

    You cannot disconnect yourself from history, we are the expression of it.

    Dan and I were a battle of left and right that are now united.

    We need opposition which leads not to annihilation, but to a synthesis.

    Standing on the border of order and chaos is a good idea.

    You have to face as much uncertainty as you can take.

    This is how UFOs operate as a trigger for portals.

    I have observed most of the UFO community is mentally ill and off center.

    Center is the only way through it.

    Balance.

    http://bicameral.io

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    Post by dan Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:52 am

    As you might have guessed, things have been in a bit of a flux, ever since the ‘fake’ phone call, which started Saturday morning, and lasted until early Sunday morning. However, it did set off a chain reaction that is ongoing. smelly’s previous post is but one manifestation.

    The Saturday morning call was to be the call heard ‘round the world.....
    By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
    Their flag to April’s breeze unfurled,
    Here once the embattled farmers stood,
    And fired the shot heard round the world.

    .... not to be melodramatic or anything.


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    Post by cwallatruth Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:55 am

    Finished this video and then saw Smelly’s post. God is working and has never stopped. Rejoice because he shows himself in all his glorious synchronicities.

    https://youtu.be/XA6h7XyAyoU
    Chaos and Order

    “Too much order leads us to drift without purpose and then drown in possibility.”

    We must find balance.
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