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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by SurfBum Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:04 pm

    I am the new world order of my world

    Wink

    You muppets are very entertaining.

    I'm glad I arranged such great entertainment and front row seats for this show of shows.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:05 pm

    I’m pretty fat, I’m sure there is a lady in here somewhere.

    BTW, I decided to go in drag in public, I promise to share my pics.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:08 pm

    I dont think you can claim that Princess trump card anymore.

    It’s meaningless unless you know her, and then, don’t give anything authority over yourself. Because there is none.

    You authorize yourself or you are sheeple.

    I guess the princes and I can carve you all up.

    Sorry, it’s a big pie, we all have a piece.

    I am not a lazy goat.

    I’m doing the grunt work, are we going to get back to polarity and Barfield?

    I will continue on and you can comment as you like.

    I don’t need to spend time in your Jesus dream and vice versa, that’s for you.

    Mine doesn’t require anyone else but what is here now unfolding in the space provided.

    I’m hunting wabbits.
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    Post by hobbit Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:23 pm

    https://www.houzz.co.uk/product/129943546-barfield-4-light-bath-bar-polished-nickel-with-wood-accents-transitional-bathroom-wall-lights

    I seen the light.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:29 pm

    Bahahaha

    5 Smelly goats!

    Dan, when you finally know yourself you can graduate.
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    Post by dan Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:44 pm

    smelly boy, I dare you to try to put the Princess in a can.  

    She will sting your smelly hide real good.  Ackbar was trying to tell you something.  You forgot to listen.  And you’d better be real nice to Marissa, too.  

    And when you get all that bees wax out of your ears, you might want to listen to what I’m actually saying, instead of projecting all your paranoia onto chicken little.  

    When the sky does fall, my team will be there to catch it....... captain, my captain.  This is way beyond your imagination, smelly.  And, frankly, it is above your pay grade.  

    You still have no clue about personalism, even when you’re giving it lip service.  

    If you care to understand us, persons, you could do a lot worse than starting out with Jesus.

    If you think you know yourself, and you don’t know Jesus, you’ve got another think coming, Eric. I think Marissa will agree.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:00 pm

    She is welcome to contact me anytime, I have no need of her services Wink

    I’d happily mentor her.

    You set that up and we might let you watch.

    If you keep your big mouth shut Wink

    I am nice to Marissa, I love that girl and she sees me a better version of me than I am I assure you.

    Maybe I’m becoming that HuMan.

    She tells me to go straight on.

    Smart girl.

    Marissa sent me this today.

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    Post by dan Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:04 pm

    And she would take you to school, Eric.

    We can do a gotomeeting, which you have been afraid to attend.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:07 pm

    The Princess is as close to the uncarved block as I have seen.

    Smelly, in an attempt to mentor her, would only mentor himself.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:08 pm

    I will be there abd ready to do my part J boy.

    And it will be just the right amount of goat love.

    Nothing is above my grade or beyond my imagination.

    Fun life, eh?!

    You school boys move along.

    Let the adults talk.


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    Post by dan Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:09 pm

    You tell him, Aaron........
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:11 pm

    Marissa will tell you, this is the real deal here school boy.

    Certified Fresh by the Gods.

    I shall take this impossibly sharp sword and cut that block in two, as I was made to do.

    I’m a Ninja Goat.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:18 pm

    Guess who the black goat is Blackie, I mean Dan.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:24 pm

    The sharpest swords dull the easiest.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:26 pm

    Not this one.

    I sharpen it constantly.

    Go ahead, try me Wink

    Haha.

    You guys will get there, I’ll wait.

    We learned a lot today.

    There is a cult around the princess.

    Dan thinks he’s Jesus.

    And the goat is a ninja goat with a very sharp sword.

    Sounds like a good sequel to Alice in Wonderland.

    Minus the child porn.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:29 pm

    Get where?

    There is no Princess cult, but there is a hive.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:29 pm

    Exactly.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:44 pm

    Dan, or should I say My Sweet Lord, I have a song for you.



    Wink

    When will you wash my feet?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:53 pm

    So back to polarity.

    From the Barfield paper, I had a synchronicity, the wind.

    For I am a poet possessed myself by the Daemon without and within and I know exactly what this passage hints at.

    My genius is from the Daemon/Daimon.

    Idiot muppets don't know at all what that means, but I'm here for you.

    I also have been writing of the wind blowing through all this and when I write the word wind, there are many images that pop up and bring a feeling.

    "It is not accidental, then, that whereas the ancient world thinks of the poet as “inspired,” the modern world thinks of the same poet as “imaginative”; the first is to be “possessed by” a genius or daemon without; the second (as Coleridgean poetics would propose) is rather to be “in possession of” the daemon within. Hence the relation, historically speaking, between “inspiration” and “imagination” is that of a true polarity or “seminal identity.”

    So let's consider Coleridge's "seminal identity."

    "In him was life, and that life was the light of men."

    "--in ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum. As the Cambridge Platonists said, Reason is the candle of the Lord, our participation in the Word; and the Word, as Barfield has said, is the cosmic process on its way from original (unconscious) to final (conscious) participation in God. The religious position, again, is not a new one--in fact, it may well be the oldest Christian one--but the point is that Barfield has arrived at it by romantic means and that he defends it by romantic means, the doctrine of the creative imagination."

    How is your imaginative instrument these days Dan?

    I think atrophied.

    Perhaps you should let the wind fill your sails again then.

    Here is some wind for you.



    I much prefer the romantics to the boring myopic Jesus freaks.

    I used to be one, so I know a little bit about it.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:11 pm

    Jesus knew about the wind Smelly.

    Consider John 3:8

    "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."

    Jesus was a hopeless romantic full of hope.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:16 pm

    Jesus was obviously the seminal identity popping up.

    The historical Jesus is a noble lie.

    You don’t need to read anything to know it.

    Jesus doesn’t matter, you matter.

    You can feel and listen to the wind and it will show you such.

    Really, the Christians are done done done as is their incomplete ignorant religion.

    You can argue about how it is transcended or you can ride the wind.

    Discovery of the seminal identity by a muppet, one way or another, leads you home.

    Good luck idol worshippers, I mean muppets.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:25 pm

    To judge one as an idol worshiper is to be an idol worshiper.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:29 pm

    We are idol worshippers, fact.

    To not admit what you are is stupid and inauthentic.

    You have to start with how you have been lied to and fooled by yourself.

    Or not, a muppet life is a scripted life.

    Maybe most will just stay in their dualistic idolator muppet minds while we have fun.

    Whatever, it’s all good, we will be dead soon, then no more speculation.

    I am not keeping up appearances like Ron and his orange idiot baby trump, I am saving them.

    Wasting time fooling people is a waste of time.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:39 pm

    I've got a black magic woman.

    She's trying to make a devil out of me.

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