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Post by cwallatruth Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:52 am

Just saw the update about tech issues in previous post
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:53 am

Shadow work is fucking uncomfortable.

So get to it.

Dig into the shit of your life.

Integrate the shadow and you won’t be washed away or poison the pristine lake.


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Post by hobbit Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:54 am

That GoToMeeting place wouldn't send Me an email with a password?

Sorry if I missed You all.

From across a big pond.
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Post by dan Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:03 pm

And this is approximately what I told Bob.


Thank you, hobbit.


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Post by cwallatruth Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:05 pm

dan wrote:And this is approximately what I told Bob.  

Bob who?
And who are you responding to?
Damn inside conversations on public forums. Smile

Smelly, what are some of your shadows and how have you integrated them?
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Post by dan Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:09 pm

cw (, bob) was our would be producer.  We have hit the pause button, for now.

(Maybe bob can still be our producer. I’ll have to examine this issue soberly, if you know what I mean)


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Post by Cuan Scott Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:11 pm

hobbit wrote:That GoToMeeting place wouldn't send Me an email with a password?

Sorry if I missed You all.

From across a big pond.
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That goes for me too Hobbit

Trust all well with all on the other side of the big pond  Smile
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Post by cwallatruth Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:16 pm

Dan,
Any thoughts on the Hubble, Kepler, and Chandra telescopes going down / having issues?
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:18 pm

cw, isn’t it obvious?

There are worst things than death.
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Post by cwallatruth Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:23 pm

smelly wrote:cw, isn’t it obvious?

There are worst things than death.

Obviously it's not obvious.  Smile  I do continue to look for your guidance toward enlightenment though.

Regarding death... I believe we discussed this a while back.... Pain is worse.  What pain is coming?

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I always thought humans feared death most, as the ultimate/base fear. I realized recently that it logically must be pain that humans fear most. In the end, death is welcome to avoid ongoing pain. It's why we make up heaven, a place not where we live forever, but where there is no more pain. If heaven was full of pain (aka hell), we'd prefer non-existence.
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:52 pm

The pain of the wounded child is so deep in each of us, it is the cause of our turmoil and unnaturalness.

I can see and speak to that child.

I am speaking to the child now, hello dear sweet child.

Listen to me, I love you sooooo much and wish you to know who and what you are Wink

Deep deep down, far far in, you are the structure and fabric of reality itself.

The opposite sex parent relationship is the source and gateway to enlightenment.

Which is just awareness of yourself as the monster and the child.

We fear becoming fully incarnate and coming into our full Awarensss, but we must reach to the scared conservative and help them integrate their shadows.

That’s my work and cause and compassion, even unto death, not knowing who you are and could be is worse than Death.

Some actually wish you to be denied that knowledge, not on my watch.

I have demanded you all be authentic here now and I have accepted nothing less because it’s all that’s real between us, the rest, a distraction, a hell until you transmute it into Paradise.

If you see it in others, you know it and have it, have no fear then, relax and let awareness take hold and show you how to deal with the pain.

It hurts me deeply, those muppets cause me great pain who harm others.

But I am the source of evil and it’s salvation.

It can be transmuted.

Imagine a world of messiahs Wink

Self generating Suns walking on earth.

That’s who we are brothers and sisters.

The Stars....

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Post by cwallatruth Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:01 pm

“To conceive of ourselves as fragmentary matter cohering for a millisecond between two eternities of darkness is very difficult.”
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Post by hobbit Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:06 pm

cwallatruth wrote:Dan,
Any thoughts on the Hubble, Kepler, and Chandra telescopes going down / having issues?

Would it perhaps be better to ask the Jesuits?

Their lucifer telescope should still be seeking out in infra red just what?




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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:35 pm

Let’s find out what we can be fully embodied and incarnated.

That’s realty, this one, not an aspiration.

The alternative is a future worse than Hitler with radioactivity.
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:59 pm

I choose to pick up the world and take responsibility for it all and carry it as far as I can, evil and all, a step away from Hell, knowing I’ll die.

I want a real life and I’ll fight for it, I don’t want to just have this lucid dream.

Like this was going to be easy.

The reptilian predator must be checked.

We must make the subconscious conscious or you will be possessed by what is unseen.

What else can I or anyone do who sees through fear.

This is the embodiment of responsibility and the logos and what it means to be a man.

I do not rape or pillage as a man or touch children or hurt women. I care for and bare. I take responsibility. I take the fool’s errands. That is what we are made to do.

That’s what every true Fool has done afterall, I’m in great company.

With no ideal, we falter. The ideals have been weakened and we wane back and forth under the weight of it.

So we need to put our shoulders into it, eh?!

Time to double down and face the horrendous work before us.

Why has this come to me?!

Because I can fuckin take it and stick it.

I learned to stick the god damn landing.

So stick it!

Where are my legions to man the walls again?!

We have been called out and up those of us who lost our way in Darkness.

Will it be despair and fear or shall we rise to meet this, I don’t know about the rest of us, but I can see a way and I will take it!

Truth leans toward love.

We are not victims, yes, we are all in pain, but we must come to terms with it and accept the grace offered.

We must get beyond our pain or we only replicate the pain program.

I don’t know enough and I’ll never forget that, my ignorance destroys the world, we must go beyond that ignorance and go on knowing!

We will flourish.

I AM the First Man
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Post by cwallatruth Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:19 pm

So what's next, Smelly? Is there a space force sign up sheet?


In 2006, former Air Force intelligence officer Rick Doty was accused of being the source behind the UFO extraterrestrial alien exchange tale known as SERPO.

Pandolfi squeezed Doty out of the equation, telling him, “You have no legal recourse. I am interpreting your threat to the Official of the Director of National Intelligence as potentially outside the legal framework, and I will advise the FBI and your supervisor to take appropriate actions.”

Pandolfi later explained his reason for pressuring Doty.

“You were correct that my interest is not specifically in Doty,” Pandolfi wrote to his colleagues, concerning his investigation of a possible infiltration of UFO enthusiasts by foreign spies, “My interest in temporarily removing Doty from the plot is to test whether another actor will fill the role. Dan [Smith] had commented several months back that the story might have created Doty rather than the other way around. Indeed your viral hypothesis may benefit from some refinement.”

In the context of the phenomenology problem, an unconscious actor, a life form of mental action, moves among human individuals like the common cold.

“Individuals that are infected do not simply become part of a larger sickness pool, but rather they fill specific and unique niches,” Pandolfi explained, “But how unique are these roles and what determines their specifics? With Doty temporarily removed, will someone fill in as simply another of the mythical and indistinguishable Dotys? Or will that someone fill in with unique characteristics clearly distinguishable from Doty? Will that someone move the story forward to the next chapter?”

“Yes, this is a question that may be of more than academic interest.”
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:32 pm

cw, raise your standard in the world, everywhere you go.

You are not a victim, you are a Human.

Be love, stick it, that’s what we are and all that is real.

Take it, bare it.

Stop pillaging and replicating pain.

No complaining.

Humbled, not having enough knowledge, diminish your own ignorance and share that.

Be the First Man anywhere you go and you will not be overwhelmed by a flood.

You will stand in the flood.

Then you will become a flood.

They aren’t gonna know what hit em.

Truth will, rooted in love, right upside the heart.

Men will shatter and we will help them pick up the pieces.

They are gonna sob for momma like babies.

But no more candy.

It will rot your teeth and then you will have no bite.

Some want us with no bite and sterile and controlled.

You think I would let those infected apes run the world forever.

Uh uh.

If we do nothing, it’s not a moral a problem, Hell will flood the Earth.

So do what you can.

I am no longer content to watch and wait, I will be spontaneous overwhelming powerful potent action to counter the mind parasites.
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Post by U Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:53 pm

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/132149-how-you-are-affected-by-ufo-disease/
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:14 pm

You have to face nihilism and turn to love or you are stuck.



The whole world will face nihilism.

The Nazis are you fail example.

Don’t be a Nazi.

I bored into the foundations...



Courage!

Or you don’t deserve this life.

Be worthy of it.

Act as if you are fundamental.


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Post by cwallatruth Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:16 pm

Smelly,

I do plead with you that you don’t receive anything I say as negative. I try to be funny by being a little provocative and I know I’m neither funny nor that provoking. I appreciate your twisted truth of reality as it is genuinely helpful for me.

Of course I want inside info and I’ll passively aggressively respond in at times because I’m not a cool kid, but I know my shadows and they truly do come from a place of love for you and terror from my ego.

Don’t forget, I am you so be nice to yourself.

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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:19 pm

Courage.

“At the bottom of us, really “deep down,” there is, of course, something unteachable, some granite of spiritual fatum [personal fate or destiny], of predetermined decision and answer to predetermined selected questions. Whenever a cardinal problem is at stake, there speaks an unchangeable “this is I.” (Beyond Good and Evil)

“Direct self observation is not nearly sufficient for us to know ourselves: we need history, for the past flows on within us in a hundred waves.”(Human All Too Human)

“[The] most shortsighted and pernicious way of thinking wants to make the great sources of energy, those wild torrents of the soul that often stream forth so dangerously and overwhelmingly, dry up altogether, instead of taking their power into service and economizing it.” (Nietzsche)
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Post by U Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:17 pm

I'll join the Space Force with U, cw.
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Post by cwallatruth Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:16 pm

“Act as if you are fundamental.”

Smelly,
Is this the same as not giving a fuck?

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Post by cwallatruth Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:23 pm

smelly wrote:You have to face nihilism and turn to love or you are stuck.

Btw Smelly, 100% honest, I was in a text conversation with a friend and 5 seconds after sending this text to him:

“The deeper I find my true emptiness of being a god of love and compassion I find I move the same distance towards letting go of all good and evil and that feels like nihilism. Perhaps I’m on the wrong path...“

I then read your comment above.
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:04 pm

Cw, that happens a lot around here.

Watch, it will happen a lot more now.

I had some freaky Dan contact last night.

I imagine there is a lot of energy flowing.

Send your friend the 2nd Nietzsche video above.

That’s is some solid freakin stuff.

Also the Jordan Peterson videos are incrediblez

Jordan is the tip of the spear apparently.

He has the flag.

I’d listen and consider.

But I listen to everything.

I know exactly what he means though.

A light unlike many others in its intensity.

I can’t get enough.


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