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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:52 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

    Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

    (Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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    Post by dan Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:34 pm

    AP,

    Worrying about the CTC, is way above your pay grade.
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    Post by cwallatruth Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:38 pm

    Is it possible to know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are in these disclosure efforts? "Guys" meaning humans, not ETs/UTs/Others/Bugs/Future Humans/Past Humans/etc...

    I recall Foot criticizing the TTSA effort early on, mocking the Scientology member, yet Dan indicating that they are all part of the same team. Is that by design to keep us guessing who is right/wrong, good/bad? Or can someone share where the differences are in what each group's efforts / objectives are?

    Much love!

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    Post by Z Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:47 pm

    Haha
    (For the sake of the country I love, I hope he's better at science than disinformation...so Transparent - zero sophistication in disinfo - must be very pragmatic scientist)

    You all know CLEARLY the second FOOTIE says its fake.... ITS REAL!!!! This blog stands as a testament to that fact...


    ... should i send them your emails to me ?
    I dont like aspersions cast upon MY honesty ... although YOU are/were paid for the opposite...
    So i can RELEASE EVERYTHING then Footman?
    Plus the other info? So if i release "STAMPED" classified/secret/other docs / pics - I'm fine?
    Trying to bait me into something stupid.... lol ... im a lil more a patriot than releasing names/codenames/ cpntactinfo/ sources/methods & "secret operations"...
    In Luis's resignation letter you can sense he knew people like you... kept the Stovepipes seperate...he kbew you knew about these other projects & past ones...but you can also sense his fear of reprisals so despite his upsetness with the besirocratic stovepipes... he also wanted YOU & the others to know he'd honor his previous oathes ...
    I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT PERU ...the D.O.E.'s help there & other places... and the other locations
    The upcoming test & recent one ....the locations of TONS of evidence ... but personally on a very personal note ... i know what happens to you in 4.5 years ...

    But i guess ... im just a liar & loon..,

    Lol

    Or perhaps ....


    LOVE is the most powerful force in the Universe ... its understood better out there than on this dirtball.... thankfully... or we would have been obliterated 69 years ago...

    Love to you all...ESPECIALLY POOR RON


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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:07 pm

    AP is a liar and a loon and associated with crooks. There are no stovepipes, just some rats hidding in the rubble. All his info is scam, only question is who are the scammers.
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    Post by Z Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:09 pm

    Wow youre bad at this ...
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    Post by cwallatruth Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:20 pm

    cwallatruth wrote:

    I recall Foot criticizing the TTSA effort early on, mocking the Scientology member, yet Dan indicating that they are all part of the same team.  Is that by design to keep us guessing who is right/wrong, good/bad?  Or can someone share where the differences are in what each group's efforts / objectives are?

    Much love!


    I'm quoting myself above because I'm pretty sure I just manifested the legendary exchange that followed based on this intention.
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    Post by 99 Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:29 pm

    jofo wrote:not to worry, send it to me and I'll share it without attribution

    as you say, the clock is ticking and there is nothing to fear

    wait not...or be part of the sham

    Ditto on that!
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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:35 pm

    You are a stooge. If you thought the scam information was real you would race to the nearest CIA or FBI office and turn it in before taking the wrap as a conspirator and spending the rest of your days in Federal Prison. Instead you taunt those on this blog desperate for answers with tidbits of nonsense. Put up or shut up Buddy. No love here for your dishonesty.
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    Post by Z Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:47 pm

    Yes!!!
    Ahaha! Look EVERYONE... you make up your own mind if I'm right by foot man's reaction!
    I read you like a book FOOTIE ...I hope you're better for a country as a scientist than you are disinformation agent... or were

    I love your accusation of me !!! is hilariously ironic... from the guy paid to be dishonest LOL

    Your legacy of lies and fear mongering on this blog reveal your REAL character.

    You could've leaked real info to Assange instead of attack others trying to reveal "YOUR" secrets...

    I guess I should show the emails that I reached out to you concerned about this information ... because I'm a patriot first ...

    You know how easy it's been to read you ....

    Hilarious

    But what happens in 4.5 years is not

    Here easy way to see WHO is a paid liar ...
    If this ends up being the REAL ELIZONDO resignation letter
    https://youtu.be/u_Lr4zbCwv8
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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:57 pm

    You should post the e-mails along with my immediate response that you have fake information and your agreement thereof. But for starters, just post the fake documents. I have been at this long enough to know that if someone receives leaked classified documents, they either run to the local CIA or FBI office, or they catch the first flight out to a country with no extradition treaty. If they are pandering in fake documents, they release bits and pieces for months trying to capture the interest of those desperate for information. Do you think anyone on this blog is stupid enough to imagine I would not have sent a Team to recover those documents and hold you for questioning if they were real? Instead I responded immediately and clearly "fake." No love for liars and frauds.


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    Post by GrandCru Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:58 pm

    Foot Mann wrote:Instead you taunt those on this blog desperate for answers with tidbits of nonsense. Put up or shut up Buddy. No love here for your dishonesty.

    ROFL, Foot...don't throw stones lady...your taunting on this blog is unmatched!!!!
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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:18 pm

    If you are referring to my little poems, none has contained false information.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:22 am

    Foot Mann wrote:You should post the e-mails along with my immediate response that you have fake information and your agreement thereof. But for starters, just post the fake documents. I have been at this long enough to know that if someone receives leaked classified documents, they either run to the local CIA or FBI office, or they catch the first flight out to a country with no extradition treaty. If they are pandering in fake documents, they release bits and pieces for months trying to capture the interest of those desperate for information. Do you think anyone on this blog is stupid enough to imagine I would not have sent a Team to recover those documents and hold you for questioning if they were real? Instead I responded immediately and clearly "fake." No love for liars and frauds.

    I wouldn’t be a smelly goat if I didn’t troll a little.

    The Old Ones were correct, I went and looked, nothing at all needs any answer, it’s obvious.

    I’ll leave all the conspiracy and search for answerz to you muddle minded muppetz, all 7 billion of you.

    The world is full of liars and we are frauds all. See, the Dude doesn’t have to worry about any of the Above, he just wants his rug back.

    That’s all.

    Where is my god damn rug Wink
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    Post by Z Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:41 am

    Odd OMF went down...hmmm ... lol...

    If you have no LOVE for liars and frauds you must abhor yourself!

    If the Elizondo letter & extended contracts list prove REAL in time... we'll see who the fraud & liar is ... HAHA!!

    Look how much youve reacted !?!?! EPIC!

    The reason you cant send a team  ( lol - thats a funny one btw )... is it would be illegal for you too, cause i didnt do shit illegal.... haha!!! & i should send a MANS FASHION POLICE SQUAD... to cut your "man-poney tail, confiscate your "mandles" ( man- sandles) & "murse" ( man purse)... CAUSE THATS MORE CRIMINAL than my actions - haha

    You did say they were Fake ... thats your first bit of honesty....

    But if said documents were accidentally leaked... there are certain legal parameters... that keep me safe ... ESPECIALLY from you kitten!

    But you sure seem the most upset ive seen in the history of this blog...was it PERU?

    ( AP BOWS HUMBLY )

    Its also cute how everyone you tell NOT to speak to me ... RACES & TELLS ME... does that NOT tell you ANYTHING!?!?!
    ( wink )

    ...btw make that less than 4.5 years
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    Post by GSB/SSR Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:22 am

    The CIA has a Domestic Collection Division (Dan has on numerous occasions referred to Ron's domestic intelligence collection activity).

    https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/HANFF,%20KONSTANTY%20%20%20VOL.%202_0022.pdf

    That's why FBI JTTF was hesitant to discuss Ron and others at DoD having contact with US citizens on line.

    The Central Intelligence Agency is expanding its domestic presence, placing agents with nearly all of the FBI's 56 terrorism task forces in U.S. cities, a step that law enforcement and intelligence officials say will help overcome some of the communications obstacles between the two agencies that existed before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

    In many cities, according to local FBI special agents, the CIA employees help plan daily operations and set priorities, as well as share information about suspected foreigners and groups. They do not, however, take part in operations or make arrests.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/10/23/cia-is-expanding-domestic-operations/7e62ab9b-8c1c-4202-b7bd-44b3fb6931c0/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7f379de18d84


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    Post by GSB/SSR Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:29 am

    Dan: I forgot to post the "word of the day" from last week: "defenestration"

    The little guy took the fall but now his boss is on the run. (I have no idea what this means btw!)



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    Post by dan Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:43 am

    AP,

    Cease and desist........

    Take your ad hominem remarks elsewhere, please.  

    I advise you not to respond to this post, either.  

    This is not a place to be posting data or documents, or even for discussing such items.



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    Post by Z Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:48 am

    https://youtu.be/YyKIL9L6CQs
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    Post by cwallatruth Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:05 am

    dan wrote:

    This is not a place to be posting data or documents, or even for discussing such items.  

    (cont........)

    Dan, for us newbies, what protocol is expected on and related to this forum? For example, is it ok, not ok, or encouraged to update people who don't visit this forum on what is being said on this forum on other platforms?

    Thank you
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    Post by dan Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:49 am

    cw,

    You might start a separate thread for such introductions and background.

    But, yes, it would be a good idea.  It could also be linked into the ‘topic reminder’ post that appears at the top of each page.  

    Thanks in advance for any assistance along these lines.
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    11:30 (gmt-4?).......

    (continuing from the bug discussion on the ‘Hello.....’ thread....)

    Metabolism covers most of the ‘sins’ of materialism.  Metabolism is the primary and most obvious means by which we get to be coCreators..... as parents, teachers, etc....



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    Post by whoknows Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:52 am

    Ron wrote:"fake." No love for liars and frauds.

    You and that orange buffoon must really hate your selves. Having allegedly work for the CIA you would be an expert in disinformation. And, I have no doubt continue to use that skill to your own end. I think you have shown you have only your self interest at work here.

    Maybe to start a new cult. I hear they can be very profitable. What really sucks is that you use Dan to give your machinations legitimacy (tautological though it may be). At least he does add something to the discussion, you, nothing at all.
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    Post by dan Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:06 am

    wk,

    Cease and desist.......

    How many times do I have to repeat myself?

    There is an ecology of Disclosure. If you don’t like the current ecosystem, feel free to propose a better one. Until such time, why don’t you complain about the climate?


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    Post by cwallatruth Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:09 am

    whoknows wrote:
    Ron wrote:"fake." No love for liars and frauds.

    You and that orange buffoon must really hate your selves. Having allegedly work for the CIA you would be an expert in disinformation. And, I have no doubt continue to use that skill to your own end. I think you have shown you have only your self interest at work here.

    Maybe to start a new cult. I hear they can be very profitable. What really sucks is that you use Dan to give your machinations legitimacy (tautological though it may be). At least he does add something to the discussion, you, nothing at all.      

    whoknows,
    Doesn't your handle say it all? How do you know Ron isn't covering up a most horrific truth that there are certain entities that have infiltrated our political, economic, social, and genetic systems for thousands upon thousands of years to protect us from something we can't even begin to comprehend and that he represents the resistance to free us, so that we may inherit the kingdom of heaven? I'm being a bit facetious to make the point that counter intelligence is just that and it's brilliance is in it's ability to keep us all not "knowing" the truth by wrapping it in a lie wrapped in truth wrapped in a lie wrapped in a chicken or egg. But not facetious enough that my example is based on a compilation of only a faction of the ACTUAL conspiracies that exist in this realm. But the question remains, how do you "know" that Ron and Don hate themselves or anything else that you ultimately "believe"?
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    Post by cwallatruth Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:13 am

    dan wrote:

    11:30 (gmt-4?).......

    (continuing from the bug discussion on the ‘Hello.....’ thread....)

    Metabolism covers most of the ‘sins’ of materialism.  Metabolism is the primary and most obvious means by which we get to be coCreators..... as parents, teachers, etc....


    (cont........)

    Dan,
    Are you a vegetarian / vegan? How do you view the consumption of sentient beings in relation to BPW and immaterialism?
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    Post by whoknows Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:13 am

    You do quite often Dan.

    Dan wrote:wk,

    Cease and desist.......

    From exactly what Dan?


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