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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

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With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.

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Immaterialism

Post by dan Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:52 am

First topic message reminder :

Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder. Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

(Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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Post by dan Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:20 am

wk,

....... from ad hominem attacks....

I’m the only hominem who you are allowed to attack on here..... like me like my friends, and vice versa.

I’m quite capable of defending Adolf H. Ron presents no unique challenges, in that regard.

Thanking you in advance for your cooperation.....

(cont.......)

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by whoknows Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:31 am

cwallatruth wrote: But the question remains, how do you "know" that Ron and Don hate themselves or anything else that you ultimately "believe"?

We are at the moment 2 min. away from midnight. And Dan is no the orange buffoon. I actually like respect, Dan, I just think he is being used. he knows this I think. If not I'm saying it clearly here. Not that I think he cares I'm probably one of the bed bugs.

As to these "certain entities" you speak of; Well, They seem to have a strange way of protecting us basicaly keeping all of human kind in a state of war for the three thousand + year.

I was not attacking, I don't know Ron either to like or dislike, I was questioning (no stronger than others here). And I do believe he has made some very questionable comments and or statement directly or indirectly. Is he being honest or just provocative?

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by cwallatruth Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:38 am

whoknows wrote:

cwallatruth wrote: But the question remains, how do you "know" that Ron and Don hate themselves or anything else that you ultimately "believe"?

We are at the moment 2 min. away from midnight. And Dan is no the orange buffoon. I actually like respect, Dan, I just think he is being used. he knows this I think. If not I'm saying it clearly here. Not that I think he cares I'm probably one of the bed bugs.

As to these "certain entities" you speak of; Well, They seem to have a strange way of protecting us basicaly keeping all of human kind in a state of war for the three thousand + year.

I was not attacking, I don't know Ron either to like or dislike, I was questioning (no stronger than others here). And I do believe he has made some very questionable comments and or statement directly or indirectly. Is he being honest or just provocative?

I actually said, "Don", guessing the "orange buffoon" you were referring to. Smile

Smile

But this is what gets me... how does anyone know anything who isn't in the know? Why is he a buffoon? I'd like to know if Ron or Dan think he's a buffoon, and if yes, why so, and if not, why not.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by whoknows Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:46 am

cwallatruth wrote: I'd like to know if Ron or Dan think he's a buffoon, and if yes, why so, and if not, why not.

Very good question, I have never thought Dan was particularly enamored with the orange one.

Yeah I belatedly saw you were talking about donny boy.

I never have been up to the ridged standards around here. But there in lies a problem, if what you say only reaches a very small audience you end up in a very small room of echoes.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by cwallatruth Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:54 am

whoknows wrote:

cwallatruth wrote: I'd like to know if Ron or Dan think he's a buffoon, and if yes, why so, and if not, why not.

Very good question, I have never thought Dan was particularly enamored with the orange one.

Yeah I belatedly saw you were talking about donny boy.

I never have been up to the ridged standards around here. But there in lies a problem, if what you say only reaches a very small audience you end up in a very small room of echoes.

According to Dan, there are a lot of people watching this forum.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by dan Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:00 am

I’m just like AP..... I love all of God’s little creatures, but especially Kashmir.

cw,

Not according to me, but according to our professional liar..... foot.

Foot only tells the best possible lies, and I’m the only one who is allowed to say that, here. You may say it all you want, in Times Square.

Your only concern, here, cw, is why I would choose foot to be my bad cop, over all the myriad choices out there?

(cont......)

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by cwallatruth Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:09 am

dan wrote:I’m just like AP..... I love all of God’s little creatures, but especially Kashmir.

cw,

Not according to me, but according to our professional liar..... foot.

Foot only tells the best possible lies, and I’m the only one who is allowed to say that, here. You may say it all you want, in Times Square.

(cont......)

For some reason I imagine an expression like this when you say "I love all God's little creatures"

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Is Times Square where the actuator is?

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by whoknows Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:16 am

cw wrote:
According to Dan, there are a lot of people watching this forum.

But not that many actively participating.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by cwallatruth Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:19 am

whoknows wrote:

cw wrote:
According to Dan, there are a lot of people watching this forum.

But not that many actively participating.

Where are the echoes originating then? Or have I now officially taken this metaphor too far?

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by whoknows Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:21 am

cw wrote:Where are the echoes originating then? Or have I now officially taken this metaphor too far?

LOL no, not at all. I'll give you a hint, Dan head room. Ooops have I gone too far?

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by jofo Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:09 am

anyone else have some new information or data they want to share related to disclosure...?

the offer i made to AP stands, if you got something and you're afraid to share it, send it to me and we'll get it out there; in the end it comes down to what people think, and if you fancy yourself a champion of the "truth", then all you should care about is getting that information to be part of everyones experience. that's the only way that the "truth" can be realized; it is found within you.

when it comes to disclosure there is nothing to fear, everything has already been disclosed, you're just not paying attention, the risk is in being deceived by mis-information (that which is eluded to but never produced)

of course i'll only take receipt of information obtained legally and disclosable within the confines of the law

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by cwallatruth Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:10 am

dan wrote:

Your only concern, here, cw, is why I would choose foot to be my bad cop, over all the myriad choices out there?

(cont......)

I was under the impression that you volunteered to head disclosure, but your bad cop was chosen for you. Who were your other choices in the myriad?

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Post n°513

Re: Immaterialism

Post by dan Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:27 am

jofo,

Please, this is not a place for solicitations of any kind.

We solicit only the truth, and it must come spontaneously from within.

cw,

Neither did I volunteer, nor was I recruited. I just go with the flow.

foot is the best possible bad cop. Show me a better one.

wk,

Head room.........?

Implying that I am AI......?

I don’t believe in AI. If you do, you’re in the wrong forum, unless you’re here specifically to disprove the soul..... in which case, lots of luck.

(cont.......)

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by cwallatruth Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:59 am

dan wrote:

cw,

Neither did I volunteer, nor was I recruited. I just go with the flow.

foot is the best possible bad cop. Show me a better one.

(cont.......)

Dan,

With all due respect, in this video at the 38:50 time marker, you said "I volunteered to be in charge of disclosure." What did you mean by that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV8AS9KPVko

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by whoknows Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:59 am

Dan wrote:We solicit only the truth, and it must come spontaneously from within.

Truth? Come on, yes we are muppets here but don't press your luck.

Dan wrote:foot is the best possible bad cop. Show me a better one.

To me that's just BS. Could you shed some light from your POV?

Dan wrote:Head room.........?

Implying that I am AI......?

I don’t believe in AI. If you do, you’re in the wrong forum, unless you’re here specifically to disprove the soul..... in which case, lots of luck.

Max Headroom was a head in a box and an AI, yes I was being a little obscure but then I am not alone in so. But maybe a talking head isn't that obscure, there are talking heads out there these days. Poor soul.

I cheer for the souls Dan. Every last one.

When we do have a true AI how do you know that it won't have a soul.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by Cuan Scott Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:33 pm

jofo wrote:anyone else have some new information or data they want to share related to disclosure...?

the offer i made to AP stands, if you got something and you're afraid to share it, send it to me and we'll get it out there; in the end it comes down to what people think, and if you fancy yourself a champion of the "truth", then all you should care about is getting that information to be part of everyones experience. that's the only way that the "truth" can be realized; it is found within you.

when it comes to disclosure there is nothing to fear, everything has already been disclosed, you're just not paying attention, the risk is in being deceived by mis-information (that which is eluded to but never produced)

Jofo,

Great post.

Dan,

Are we back to Immaterialism now?

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by dan Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:38 pm

cw,

Theoretically, I could have refused..... it just never occurred to me to do so.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:56 pm

Foot and I have had some high level discussions, way above muppet OMF grade.

He never responds after initial message, so I don’t think Foot is Dan or Cy.

Doesn’t sound female, otherwise he could be the CIA dude.

All I can share without being killed I think Wink

Wink

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by GrandCru Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:29 pm

whoknows wrote:

cw wrote:
According to Dan, there are a lot of people watching this forum.

But not that many actively participating.

Oh man nice, nice burn CW!

Are we forgetting the 4th of July "drop dead date"??? and then the back pedaling?

Foot & Dan solicit more nonsense on here than anyone else.

The names of those military pilots from the Nimitz event HAVE been leaked, as AP reported on his show. Those docs are hot.

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Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:50 pm

OMF could be a honey pot to....

1) Watch the weirdos
2) Test crackpot theories
3) Just kidding
4) Have secret access to hidden Magick
5) Recruiting Close encounter type explorers
6) Providing cover for real Disclosure

Jury is still out, I play the odds though.

I call bullshit on all of us. They aren’t accessing anything we can’t all access. You have to go with the most likely thing.

Odd more don’t come here, maybe my nonsense worked, but Dan it seems is considered compromised.

I think Dan and team thought this a fun diversion and have nothing to disclose other than philosophy and Metaphysics.

The myth of the princess is prob just that.

Shrug, don’t care, straight on, I’m having hella fun.

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Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:57 pm

Or they are foreign agents.

I’d bet a few are here.

I have no allegiances Wink

Wink

I’d make a terrible spy and I would only work for Baphomet or other Daimons, they are my favs.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by cwallatruth Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:33 pm

What’s the over/under on when smelly posts a WPWH?
Or has that already happened?

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by skaizlimit Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:54 pm

Most of you are loons, a few probably crooks, but AP is worse. His lies, deceit, and hate for all that is good spreads like a plague over this blog. I stand firmly with the Foot. I have my doubts about the bravery and manliness of the Little Chicken, but he is on the correct path. He has the ear of the Princess and the Foot is always nearby.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by Z Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:47 pm

Love TO ALL!!!

Bye bye!

( poof)

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Post by dan Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:13 am

Maybe things can calm down a little bit, now......

11:20..........

Buddy may be the 2018 edition of Jamie Shanderae who was delivered the MJ12 documents, back in the ‘80’s.

They were all deniable, but have become an essential piece of the disclosure story.

The documents were placed on the windshield of his truck, by someone who drove away as he approached. Buddy was surprised when Ron pronounced them fake, in advance. Come on, buddy, get with the program.

It’s a small world, after all. Maintain a sense of irony, at almost all cost. Everything is personal, but that does not allow for thin skins. I have to hold his hand.

For instance, Ron could be MJ3, by now.

This Disclosure is about the news from nowhere...... in here.

The inside edition is going to be rather subjective, especially at first. Be careful what you wish for.

12(gmt-4)

Thanks, GC, it’s only supposed to be good enough for gummint work.

‘Princess’ does not refer to Earthly royalty. It might have something to do with ShangriLa, but that’s just speculation. It does fit into the BPDH, best possible disclosure hypothesis.

Too many ufologists expect to be spoon fed by the gummint or by the ETs.

The BPWH, however, is a package deal, I suspect. The BPW is, virtually by definition, a personal world. Any disclosure thereof will be for, by and about persons.

Does this make us arrogant?

Yes and no.

I have arrogated most of the arrogance onto my chicken little shoulders. Don’t blame the Queen. She’s not even from here.

Am I the best possible cl? No, just the only possible. It was just a confluence of circumstances. I went along with the flow. I don’t take the personalism, personally. Being a physics student of independent means was a big part of that bargain, for instance. Put that together with an impending MoAPS, and the rest is history...... if only I could figure out actuators and bedbugs.

(cont.......)

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