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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by jofo Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:21 am

    First topic message reminder :

    nice to be back to our regularly scheduled programming

    if only eric were here...i miss him, his perspective and contribution
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:42 pm

    In other newz, a new conspiracy theory, Prinze crashed the stock market.

    Don’t be using Prinze as a Daimonic image he said.

    Purple rain.

    Ack, are you stable son?
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:49 pm

    Dan,

    Well, I'm not sure what I would label my brother. I did say that about him before, yes. I said that because he was more familiar with Gnostic teachings and other various traditions that seemed to be in the realm of what was going on here. However, I think I have come up to snuff with him now. I think it would be more accurate to say both of us have an interest in philosophy rather than label either of us "philosophers".
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:50 pm

    smelly wrote:
    Ack, are you stable son?

    Stable enough to recognize the Spirit of Truth when I see him. Smile

    You are invited to dine with us too smelly, communion is free for any who desire. Smile
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:57 pm

    Speaking of brothers, back in the meridian of time Jesus' first two disciples were brothers. Smile How aboutz that folks!

    In other news, just finished watching the Space X launch. Looks like a Tesla Roadster is now headed out to the outer stretches of our conscious creation. I hope it reaches Kolob so the angels can take it on a joy ride.


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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:58 pm

    Eat your heart out, smelly, I snatched him right from under your nose.


    Ackbar,

    I did speak briefly with your brother, and he said as much.

    And, yes, do not quit your day job, despite everything smelly says. Ask smelly if he has quit his day job.



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    Post by jofo Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:10 pm

    dan wrote:

    So, is Jesus our Savior?  Will Jesus come again.....?

    The good news is that he will come again.  The bad news is that he will come again, in the guise of Chicken Little, sponsored by the CIA.

    I ask you...... is this the best possible Second Coming?

    (cont......)

    really dan, you're the reincarnation of christ, the second coming?

    please don't ever say that again, it's beyond silly
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:14 pm

    Hey now, I'm still ablaze with the dragon firez smelly ignited inside of me. That was a crucial component in my metamorphosis. Now I'm a flaming gogo fruit instead of a flaming buddhasana. I was never really good at yoga anyway. Smile
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    Post by @awestruckt Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:15 pm

    Dan, can you help me understand more specifically how the BPWH and the Portal/pod saga fit together?  On this forum I see two parallel tracks--1st you are delineating and "beta testing" your BPWH, subjecting it to scrutiny and letting folks kick the tires.  2nd, you and occasionally the footman relate cryptic breadcrumbs relating an epic saga involving the princess, her pod, some portals, a hive, some vectors, and a wrestling match between Donkim, and hint that the developments on this saga have immanent and universally paradigm-altering ramifications.  
    I’m sure the breadcrumbs and saga are excruciatingly cryptic out of necessity, and I am grateful for them, so my apologies if this sounds ungrateful but gosh it would be really appreciated to have even a shade more clarity, both in terms of the saga itself, and as to where the BPWH comes in to play.  Are you saying you’re the X2 because you believe you’ve discovered the truth and can communicate it effectively, or because you’re eventually going to get some special portal activator thingy from the princess that enables you to float above the great pyramid and telepathically proclaim to all humanity that the end is nigh?  I’m not trying to be sarcastic, bit when we throw around terms like the eschaton, Katechon, etc. and hint of some insider knowledge and then speak in riddles, it gets frustrating for those of us on the “outside”, who see that there are cracks in the cosmic eggshell, and see hints all around us that we have been spoon-fed a false reality narrative, but are not positioned with friends on the “inside” who can hold our hands and tell us what’s really going on.
    Thanks for listening.  And again, while I’m compelled to voice my frustration, I am grateful for at least the breadcrumbs, they’re better than nuthin’…
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:21 pm

    **barf into my goat mouth**

    I’m just on my lonely goat pazz.

    What do I need?

    Yummy flower up there...

    **flower fart**

    Sorry, I’m gasey.


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:21 pm

    jofo wrote:
    dan wrote:

    So, is Jesus our Savior?  Will Jesus come again.....?

    The good news is that he will come again.  The bad news is that he will come again, in the guise of Chicken Little, sponsored by the CIA.

    I ask you...... is this the best possible Second Coming?

    (cont......)

    really dan, you're the reincarnation of christ, the second coming?

    please don't ever say that again, it's beyond silly

    And so it begins Dan. Are you ready for this? Hold your ground. I've got your back!

    Jofo, He doesn't have to be your SoT/Christ if you don't want him to be. Gogo isn't here to force anyone. We are all free to inquire within ourselves and discover our own truths. Just be very careful about it, you won't want to miss the train. Smile
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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:27 pm

    jofo,

    I feel your pain.......  at all this banter.  

    For 2,000 years, Christians have believed, with perfectly sound logic, that they had an inside track on the Second Coming.  

    That is true.... it’s just that your inside track is not quite the one you were expecting.  

    In order to understand what’s going on, jofo, you’re going to have to get back to basics........

    What was Jesus’ mission.......?

    Was it to save Jews? Was it to save Christians? Or, per impossible, was it to save the world?


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:30 pm

    jofo, Dan thinkz he is Jesuz like Crowley became the Beast.

    He is freighted by the Devil under hiz bed every night and he hangz onto us not afraid.

    Every night he should recite looking at a goat pooping in his face.

    Now I layz mez down to sleepz
    I prayz the Wind my soul to keepz
    If I diez beforez I wakez
    I prayz my ashez blow awayz

    He is trying to be the Cosmic trigger.

    But he doesn’t underatand it in his mind.

    I showed him az much, it could never be, ain’t no Jesuz here but us.

    You think he would come back here?

    He knowz how lammoz it iz.

    Pretty liez.


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:31 pm

    Remember folks, Dan has not declared himself to be X2, he only vaguely suggested the possibility as a way to teach us who all of us are. I am the one who declared him to be MY X2 for NOW.

    Does that mean if another Jesus floats down from the sky, with scars in his hands and feet, that I would reject him? Absolutely not! Will that ever actually happen? I don't know for sure, but maybe we do we need to start considering the idea that maybe what was written 2000 years ago was not as literal as we all thought.

    Maybe Dan is just preparing the way, a latter-day JtB.

    By his fruits you will know him.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:43 pm

    It getz soz lonely when you are walking and the streetz are full of strangerz.

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    My bird responz to Dan.

    One Eyed Storm/King

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    An Old Goat

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    A wrascally rabbit...

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    Take that SoT


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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:56 pm

    Ackbar,

    Yours is a fair statement of my awkward situation.  


    jofo,

    So here we are.... if we are in the End Times, and have not yet been Raptured, we’re gonna have to think beyond our Biblical comfort zone.  Even the most devout Christians may find that the quoting of chapter and verse is not sufficient, unto this Day.

    How many times will I have to declare that I am not a Bible toter? I am a Jesus freak..... like the ones riding around in the chartreuse minibuses during the Revolution of the flower children.

    I can’t read your mind, so I don’t know which Biblical verse you are clutching onto for dear life, jofo, but let me make an educated guess....... the only way to heaven is by the Lord, Jesus.....



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:00 pm

    I am relieved. I was really starting to worry about what would happen to all those airplane pilots when the Rapture came.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:05 pm

    The Christians are closed up tighter than ever.

    There is a ray of light though.

    A new Heretic, one of my old favorite post-modern Christian writers.

    Now he seems silly and quaint.

    But I understand what he has to work with.

    They are going to flay him.



    I believe in Dan, Rob, Me, any who would be Human Beings.

    I don’t know Jesus or God or the Devil, but these ideas seem to be part of this.

    The 4 winds won’t be denied their prize...our dust.

    We need some good hereticos.

    I’d do that, oh, I am, in the face of the SoT even.

    So Dan, which Jesus do you want, I would pick Rob’s.

    Rob is most heretical, get this, because he doesn’t believe in Hell and sexual repression.

    He could be He.

    He says god couldn’t have a hell.

    I say there can be no God. We might be friends.

    He attacked the foundation of power.

    Guilt.

    I vote Rob the 2nd Coming.

    He’s my kind of scum.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:41 pm

    So then, what is to be had of all these religions? How will the flock be gathered into the One fold of the One Shepherd?
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    One by one.
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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:55 pm

    Ackbar,

    To save ourselves and the world, all we have to do is follow the truth lodged in our hearts and minds.  

    It will be scary at first, but we’ll get used to it sooner than we can imagine.  Imagine that.  

    The scariest thing that many of us will have to do is set aside our scriptures long enough to take a breath of fresh air.  


    smelly,

    Yes, Rob Bell might be my biggest competition, at this point. Someone should ask him about Chicken Little. He might actually be in the loop. You never know.



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    Post by jofo Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:00 pm

    dan wrote:Ackbar,

    I can’t read your mind, so I don’t know which Biblical verse you are clutching onto for dear life,  jofo, but let me make an educated guess....... the only way to heaven is by the Lord, Jesus.....

    (cont.......)

    i don't clutch verse in hopes of finding salvation
    i leave that to living in the present moment
    the only way to salvation is to live a good life
    i'm not pining away to be saved or for redemption
    Jesus won't save me; only I can do that
    yes he provides us an example of how to live well
    but we are promised nothing
    all must be earned

    if you meant to say that the second coming is/will be within us all,
    then i'm with you. is that what you are saying?

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:07 pm

    dan wrote:Ackbar,
    The scariest thing that many of us will have to do is set aside our scriptures long enough to take a breath of fresh air.  

    This will be fun.

    Lets say you have 7 billion infants with 7 billion pacifiers. Can we expect them to just hand them over voluntarily?

    Maybe this is where the MoAPS comes into play.

    Maybe the way to get them to put the pacifiers down for a moment is not by pulling the pacifier out of their mouths by force, but by launching the mothership of nipples into the sky, whereby they all drop their pacifiers when their jaws drop open in shock and awe of the giant flying nipple ship.
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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:13 pm

    jofo,

    The Source is in all of us.  The historic fulcrum of this Truth is Jesus.  He personified the Truth as none other.  

    At present, and doing business as Chicken Little, I’m in charge of the cleanup crew.  A crucial part of my business is to the proximate trigger of the Mother of all Paradigm Shifts.  

    I doubt that Rob has gotten the MoAPS memo, yet.  He will, in due course.  


    Ackbar,

    Well, something like that. Ultimately, though, it will be like talking candy from a baby.


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:15 pm

    jofo wrote:
    all must be earned

    Maybe it's not that "all must be earned", but that "all must be learned".

    There is nothing to earn, Gogo already paid for it all.

    What's left for us to do is to learn and practice becoming.
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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:22 pm

    Jesus paid for the cargo.  I’m just paying the freight.  

    And, if truth be told, it’s actually Free on Board.


    Somebody asked about the portals.........

    The portals are to facilitate or best possible global Rapture. They also bring about the falling of the sky so that it doesn’t have to fall on our heads. We can step into the hive/sky whenever we’re good and ready.



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