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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by jofo Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:21 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    nice to be back to our regularly scheduled programming

    if only eric were here...i miss him, his perspective and contribution
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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:09 pm

    99 wrote:Ackbar,
    Dan doesn't want you posting in his thread. So please move on to another subforum in this forum and post there.... but not here.

    You are trying to redeem yourself now but when Eric comes back, you and he will go back to ganging up on Dan again. That's why Dan asked you to leave and post elsewhere.

    Dan doesn't want to talk to you Ackbar... only Eric.

    And please, oh please, stop roleplaying. Your switching from one persona to another is extremely annoying e.g. the Mormon, the Christian, the therapist, the- possible-pagan-but-don't-know-yet, the seeker, the doubter, and what next???... and your mirroring of Eric in tone and speech is very, very strange too. No wonder you are using a mirror as your avatar!

    Hey 99,

    I don't pick up any threat to Dan from the guys.  Their interest is honest.  

    The persona switching mirroring the styles and persona's present is a methodology to find a harmony to the melody present; to fit in.  It's a technique taught to cultural anthropologists & military who spend time among indigenous cultures...some people pick it up naturally.  Odd but harmless.

    Guys rough-house...that was a digital form.  Dan seems to tire sooner than he did a few years ago and the ruckus was eating up his time and energy.

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:17 pm

    Back to the BPW and such. Rolling Eyes

    Dan,

    So we know there are different types of portals. Personal portals we can go through without the aid of any external device, correct? How about the Princess' portal though? We know it has some kind of physical device associated with it. At a minimum, we know there are actuators that look like black boxes.

    Is the experience of going through our personal portal the same as the experience of going through the Princess' portal? Is her portal related in any way to our personal portals? In other words, can she use her portal to help guide others to go through their own personal portals? Will there come a time when some of us might have the opportunity to experience going through her portal? What does that timeline look like? Are there any plans to show her portal to the world all at once, or is it a one by one sort of deal? Does her portal allow her to see the probabilities of future events or somehow time travel?
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    Post by @awestruckt Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:26 pm

    Great questions Ack. Can't wait to hear more about this part of the story...
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    Post by DrZaius Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:35 pm

    Ackbar wrote:So we know there are different types of portals....

    ...and as a follow-up, Dan, do you have any comments on the Xendras that Grant has been reporting on?  Also, I'm enjoying (so far) the series of conversations on YouTube between you and Jack Sarfatti.  I think Jack's right, though.
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    Post by dan Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:36 pm

    I’m told that Mike Pence will arm wrestle Kim Jong’s sister.

    You are asked to place your bets.
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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:43 pm

    Can we relocate them to a mud pit and call no holds barred?


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:52 pm

    dan wrote:I’m told that Mike Pence will arm wrestle Kim Jong’s sister.

    You are asked to place your bets.  

    I was hoping Trump would arm wrestle Kim Jong Un, that's okay though, Pence v Un's sis will give us a similar effect I hope.

    I can picture it now, the look on the faces of the military industrial complex will be priceless eh?

    They should make it a pay per view event.

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    Post by dan Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:12 pm

    99,

    Please, my only complaint against Ackbar was only when he appeared to be abetting Eric’s desire to be an annoyance.  I had a lengthy conversation with with Ackbar, yesterday, and we seem to have moved beyond all that.  He had simply been unaware of Eric’s lengthy history, here.  

    Anyone is welcome here, including Eric/smelly, as long as they stick to topic and refrain from their own monologues.  This is my thread for dialogue and monologue.  All are welcome to dialogue, but if they wish also to monologue, they should have the courtesy to start their own threads, please.

    As you suggested, 99, anyone is welcome to post annotated links, in this thread, to their discursions on other threads.  Please, also use reasonable discretion when posting lengthy quotes or multiple video links.  If you don’t know the definition of discretion, I would suggest attending a manners camp.  
    ...........


    The chances of any constructive meeting between Mike Pence and Kim Yo Jong appear to be nil to none, at this point.  No one could be more disappointed than me.  

    Other avenues for disclosure will have to be pursued more vigorously.  

    We have to wonder if either of the principals were even aware of such an option.  If there was ever such a contingency, and it was foiled, well, we are in need of a postmortem.  

    Trust me, trust the cosmos, that Disclosure has not been left to the whims of politicians. They are afforded first refusal. No more, no less. The show goes on. If Donald still wants back in the game, he will need to signal his intentions, sooner than later.



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    Post by murnut Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:54 pm

    The sister won

    Sent from Topic'it App
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    Post by dan Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:04 pm

    Hi, murnut,

    Apparently so, based on Mike’s boorish behavior........ a poor loser, if I’ve ever seen one.

    The South Koreans have plenty of reasons to kick us out of their country, before Mike and Donald start dropping bombs.  
    .............


    jofo.........
    don't you see that these claims are false?

    truth comes from within, and it certainly wont be delivered via words from you, Dan, or from anyone
    Well, no, yes and no.........

    Rest assured, jofo, that nothing I can do will diminish what you can do.  

    However, it just so happens that we are experiencing a spiritual ice jam.  We need a few sticks of dynamite to break the ice.  This is what I claim to be bringing to the table, with R,A&K.

    Yesterday, I was privileged to accompany the Princess to the University of Maryland to meet with an AI/Robotics professor and some of his students. She had been invited to a class of his to discuss her KWF conservation/drone work, with them.

    At the lunch, afterwards, a was allowed to discourse on the philosophy of artificial intelligence with the professor who was very well versed in philosophy and religion.

    It turned out that he was a quantum dualist, and an agnostic, by rather skeptical, soulwise. Like the Princess, he would yield no privilege to sapience over sentience.



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:28 pm

    99,

    I read your post. It was so.....serious. Why so serious? Why is everyone so serious.

    Analyzing my mimicking of Manerisms and all. There is nothing to analyze. We are both infected by the light of the One. That’s all. It’s just us dancing, in love with the world and with each other. When you are infected you can’t help but appreciate the same kinds of things, the important things like art, music, rhyming, OSHO, Rumi, Jesus, Buddha. When you start rhyming in your own posts you will have finally understood the SWH. Wink You will understand who you are. I mimic Eric because he is me and I’m in love with me. In fact, we are getting married tomorrow at noon and y’all are invited. ????

    I love and respect Dan and have agreed to what he has asked.

    This is his stage yes, but it is the best possible world stage. When you really experience the meaning of that first hand you drop ALL fears and you just dance. What happens when you go dancing ????and you see someone else dancing a dance move that looks really fun? You mimic it. At least I do.

    All this military/cop tactic for this or that talk....wtf is all that?! haha!! Just dance damnit! This is the best possible world, end of story.

    I will cut back on the dancing though, some people just want to talk best possible world instead of live and be the best possible world. That’s fine, I understand that. I’ve been in your shoes before so I understand.

    Okay, moving on from that. Time to be serious I guess.
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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:46 pm

    Dan,

    It's so mind boggling that North Korea even had the impudence to send Kim's sister with their delegation to the Olympics. My view is that the postmortem of this missed opportunity between Pence and Kim’s sister is very revealing in that it indicates to us that the winds of war are upon us.  Most people don’t want to accept that but, for me, it seems very obvious. The question is though, how do we psychologically and emotionally prepare for another world war? How do we prepare for the possibility that our country could be nuked?  I’ve lost all confidence and  trust in our gov’t. Especially with the current administration at the helm which is most inept and ineffectual of any administration in the history of the U.S.  It will be up to the people to take control of things on a grassroots level nevertheless anarchy and chaos will prevail when that happens.
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    Ack... that's water under the bridge now. Let's drop it and have a fresh start. This wrt to the statement I made this morning that I have since deleted.


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    Post by dan Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:50 pm

    Thank you, Ackbar, for your very considerate post.  I’ll return to it, in a minute.  Allow me to continue responding to jofo.........

    jofo.......
    for a time this thread was exploring how to harmonize desperate ideas and perspectives to create a mutual understanding of what the BPW is and what it could be, sadly that has degraded into polarization and exclusion
    Yes, that can happen all too easily.  But please bear with me/us........

    With the BPWH/SWH/CTC/(4M/K/SoT/X2)/MoAPS, there is a golden opportunity to harmonize the world.  I, for one, would be a negligent ingrate were I to look this gift horse in the mouth.  And am I doing this for me?  Really, sports fans.......... a small step for a person.......

    If I were not to rise to the occasion, someone else surely would, so why don’t I just step aside, and let history move on.   Am I going to stand on ceremony, and be my own worst Katechon?  

    However, I have no choice, by sheer logic, but to stand on this ceremony. I can do none other. I would be lying. Sorry, sports fans.


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:12 pm

    99 wrote:
    Ack... that's water under the bridge now. Let's drop it and have a fresh start.

    Agreed, fresh start.
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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:55 pm

    If you step aside, then you'll regret it Dan. As we all know, opportunity is right at your door.

    It’s in the Bible, 1 John 2:18, 19, 26,. “Even now many antichrists have come. . . . They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. . . . I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.”
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    Post by hobbit Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:00 pm

    99 wrote:Dan,

    It's so mind boggling that North Korea even had the impudence to send Kim's sister with their delegation to the Olympics. My view is that the postmortem of this missed opportunity between Pence and Kim’s sister is very revealing in that it indicates to us that the winds of war are upon us.  Most people don’t want to accept that but, for me, it seems very obvious. The question is though, how do we psychologically and emotionally prepare for another world war? How do we prepare for the possibility that our country could be nuked?  I’ve lost all confidence and  trust in our gov’t. Especially with the current administration at the helm which is most inept and ineffectual of any administration in the history of the U.S.  It will be up to the people to take control of things on a grassroots level nevertheless anarchy and chaos will prevail when that happens.
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    Ack... that's water under the bridge now. Let's drop it and have a fresh start. This wrt to the statement I made this morning that I have since deleted.

    Do not fall for the fear racket, there can never be a nuclear war.

    Timing relative to the suns field is involved, and there is a very narrow band which will enable detonation.
    This is the main reason for not wanting emerging nations to gain this knowledge as it totally wipes out the threat of nuclear weapons.

    This thread is about the BPW, but with respect how can You all know without first knowing the basics of creation????

    This is why I keep trying to K.I.S.S.
    in that You need to have the ground rules comprehended first.

    Time/gravity is that which is involved, alter either and You alter the other.

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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:10 pm

    History always has a way of repeating itself Hobbit... so respect history. When it does happen, the current crop in the White House, which has no redeeming qualities about it and is corrupt and inept unlike any administration we've had before or since, will bring us into war accidently. That's the track we're on now. I truly do believe this with all my heart and soul.

    As for nukes, by the time this happens, China and Russia will be in on the game and they know all there is to know about sending off nukes.

    But the bottom line is that I have faith in the people... and G-d. Humanity somehow always finds a way to survive and it will be no different this time round too.


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    Post by hobbit Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:16 pm

    99 wrote:History always has a way of repeating itself Hobbit... so respect history. When it does happen, the current crop in the White House, which has no redeeming qualities about it and is corrupt and inept unlike any administration we've had before or since, will bring us into war accidently. That's the track we're on now. I truly do believe this with all my heart and soul.

    As for nukes, by the time this happens, China and Russia will be in on the game and they know all there is to know about sending off nukes.  

    I do not buy fake pictures, and Your president is been painted falsely.

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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:24 pm

    You couldn't be more wrong. Sorry. He's evil incarnate. And I mean that literally.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:17 pm

    Nukes...evil presidents...war...

    Whatever happens, this is the best possible world and always will be, that brings me comfort.

    That this is the BPW can't be known. It can only be understood.

    So many people here are focused more on the nukes and wars on the outside, thus, cannot claim victory over the nukes and wars within.

    The BPW starts within.

    Eat too much greasy junk food your skin will break out with acne.

    Clean the inside and the outside will clean itself.

    One day Rumi was reading next to a large stack of books. Shams Tabriz, passing by, asked him, “What are you doing?” Rumi scoffingly replied, “Something you cannot understand.” On hearing this, Shams threw the stack of books into a nearby pool of water. Rumi hastily rescued the books and to his surprise they were all dry. Rumi then asked Shams, “What is this?” To which Shams replied, “Mowlana, this is what you cannot understand.”

    This song is about the apocalypse. Pay close attention to the pink bear. At first his own fear crushes him, then he breaks the chains of fear and becomes infused with laser magic. He becomes radioactive. This whole apocalypse stuff is like a big funny puppet fight.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktvTqknDobU

    Fear not, the pink toy bear will win in the end.

    Nukes are nothing against your own dormant radioactiveness.

    Each one of us has more nuclear power within us than all the nukes in the world combined.
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    Post by dan Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:23 pm

    Please, 99,

    We don’t do ‘evil incarnate’ here, either.  We cannot progress by using brick bats.

    As Ackbar says, even it there were evil incarnate, it has its place in the Sun...... in the best possible world.

    Our job, God’s job, is to turn our very ample supply of lemons into lemonade.

    In order to manage this magic, we need to understand who we are, from whence we came, and whither we go. This bit of knowledge is what I am bringing to the table, a table provided, in no small measure, by A,R&K. I may be bringing the wrong information to the wrong table. That’s what we’re here to discuss, I hope.



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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:28 pm

    I guess I had that coming. I would rather look at the bright side of things anyway, hence why I'm here. It takes me away from my fears and it gives me hope that there's another way to come to terms with 'all of this'. The BPW is a good start. A better way and a better perspective.

    Ha! A brick bat indeed!

    And little pink toy bears too! Wink
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    Thank you, 99,

    And, Ackbar, yes, we should be celebrating the BPW while we investigate it.  It seemed, however, that Eric wanted only to celebrate.  There is still a little mission here, and I don’t think it’s just mission creep.  

    And I’m sorry, hobbit, that I don’t understand the finer points of Creation.  The Princess is also disappointed in me and Ron for not understanding the linkage between time and gravity.  Hey, if I happen to be any sort of God, I’m the absolute minimalist version, but that’s what the Doctor ordered for the BPW....... get over it, get used to it.  


    BTW, Ron does seem to agree with my old friend, murnut........ Mike lost the wrestling match to Kim’s little sister.  It was no match at all.  She just took him right to the mat..... to the cleaners.  It would be like me trying to arm wrestle my goddaughter....... no thank you.  I’m smarter than that.  

    As her mother pointed out, I may be able to cheat, but my goddaughter could cheat me all the way to kingdom come. No, siree..... nolo contendere.



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    Post by hobbit Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:16 pm

    Dan,

    It's very simple actually about time/gravity.

    That which is imploding into and thus enabling creation is that which dictates time/gravity.

    The net implosion rate over outrush rate is time/gravity.

    I am certain You will accept a different gravity upon the moon?
    Will You therefore consider a different time?

    As a creation of the net rate of implosion over outrush relative to this planet, do not expect to be able to see a variant such, even if a creation of a variant rate is stood right in front of You.

    Consider the ability to locally create a variable such rate , You may wish to name such ....portal.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit
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