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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by jofo Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:21 am

    First topic message reminder :

    nice to be back to our regularly scheduled programming

    if only eric were here...i miss him, his perspective and contribution
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    Post by hobbit Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:25 pm

    Ackbar wrote:
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    Either that or him and Dan have at last got a hotel room.

    lmfao

    Hobbit, you definitely know how to lighten the mood, haha.


    I don't normally comprehend acronyms, not living in America which appears to be the acronym capital.
    But Your lmfao may be right on the button, in this instance?

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    Post by painterdoug Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:09 pm

    speaking of moons,  on the way to my morning hockey game  6 45 am

    i phone  /    the eclipse just beginning to clip the top left ,  but can't really see in the pic

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    Post by hobbit Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:21 pm

    painterdoug wrote:speaking of moons,  on the way to my morning hockey game  6 45 am

    i phone  /      the eclipse just beginning to clip the top left ,  but can't really see in the pic

    Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2 - Page 18 Moon10

    Gin clear skies here in the shires, the moon is enormous and looks as if it will knock My chimney pot off.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:22 pm

    Dan, you wanna know another interesting cheat sheet?

    Take a very close look at chapter 7 from Alice in Wonderland.

    Charles Dodgson was a hacker too.

    Might not be your particular flavor of cheat sheet, but it is an interesting flavor nevertheless.

    The trick is to trap the Dormouse in the teapot...I think.

    Trap the extra-spatial Dormouse (time?) from the equation, or at least the illusion of the Dormouse, our memories and our conscious thought.

    Where do we get the mousetrap? The Dormouse himself tells us we can draw it from the treacle well we are already inside of? What else can we draw from the well according to the Dormouse? Well, according to chapter 7, we can draw the moon, memory, much of a muchness, and everything that starts with an M. Shocked

    Once the Dormouse is trapped, are the Mad Hatter and the March Hare then free to escape the endless rotation around the table?

    The hidden math related to Quaternions in chapter 7 is very, very interesting indeed.

    I can thank the World Wide Web for that little portal.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:27 pm

    I saw a halo around the moon last night here in the desert by the lake. Never seen that before. Looked like this:

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    Post by jofo Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:30 pm

    we had the same effect here in the bay area a couple nights ago
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    Post by 99 Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:47 pm

    Sky's like the color of blue jeans today but it's as cold as the dickens out there with winds coming in from the north. I made my daily hike up the road with it at my back but was walking into it on my return trip. At least I was geared up with my multi-layered insulating system on. Note to self: check out wind googles. Could have used a pair of those today.
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    Post by dan Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:39 pm

    Today the Princess posed to us the following question(s)........

    How would you define + 0

    + (“What is time?”)

    + (“Who is time?”)

    + (“Why is time?”)

    + (“Where is time?”)

    ..................

    Then she added the following comment..........

    If time is so important for disclosure, how come no one knows what, who, why and where (it/he/she) is?


    9:15............

    Of course, I have mentioned the DonKim show on many occasions. I may even have mentioned the possibility of a wrestling match. It does appear that the negotiations are proceeding. We certainly would not want to say anything that might jeopardize these highly sensitive proceedings. But, wow, this would be a potentially earthshaking development. No?


    (cont........)


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    Post by painterdoug Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:16 pm

    the time, is always now
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    Post by clusterfuggles Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:42 pm

    If I understand what I have learned of the BPWH so far... time is the structured way we perceive divine provision.

    Any True Detective ssn 1 fans? Time is a flat circle.

    I'll stop right there for now.
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    Post by 99 Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:49 pm

    Time is an illusion.
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    Post by jofo Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:12 pm

    i see time is a dimension humans use to gain perspective

    same as up, down or sideways

    no beginning or end, a field effect if you will

    it can be stretched and compressed,

    its useful when one wants to index or search

    but its not a thing in itself; things can be measured in comparison to it

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    Post by dan Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:21 pm

    Ok, sports fans........

    We have a tentative answer to one of the four questions posed by the Princess.........

    Time for the Greeks came in two flavors.......

    1.)  Chronos

    2.)  Kairos

    This is a start, folks.


    The Princess is giving jofo credit for the best answer, so far.



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    Post by painterdoug Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:41 pm

    Dan  /  Im somewhat tired of the riddles.  What do they serve if not to tell as all, there are no answers but our own.    

    There will be answers that are clever, emotionally sincere, and of course  intellectually waxing of ones mustache as they win the door prize .  Wow I’m so smart!   I won  !

    But truth be told, I have never heard an answer that has satisfied myself, much less anyone else to any of these questions.  

    Who are you?   Where did you come from?  Why are you here?  What are you , and where are you going?

    And today,  what is time? ,  where is time ?,  who is time ?,  and so on.

    Is there a definitive answer someone can give us so  we can mark it well, and say ok we have that under our belt?   Done and now move on?    Sorry but NO

    Who is keeping your heart beating as you sleep?  Who is regulating all the amazing divisions of cells , the automatic systems ?  

    Get me the answers , Ill write them down and then tell others.  

    I am just a person and  I DONT KNOW.  And this is so defeating to the ego.  The mister right.

    I know this,  when I play ice hockey,  I know much more about it then Steven Hawking will ever know, based on his equations on his blackboard .  I play it as others theorize.  and this goes for everything
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    One thing I have learned from my many conversations with the Princess, is that  most of us are totally unaware of what is in front of our own nose , much less what is beyond us .
    We have done the minimum of work on ourselves and these matters.  But like gluttonous children we all want more without the work.  we want  “  disclosure”    

    Disclosure of what?  

    Whatever it is we are heading for regarding this, it just can’t be for the elite, the anointed etc

    It has to be for every man.  The meek and the strong  the last and the first.
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    Post by DrZaius Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:49 pm

    Chronos = linear time = any change in entropy.
    Kairos = timing = the moment when the decision is made to keep or pitch the ball when running the option = point of no return
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    Post by 99 Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:16 pm

    Kairos is time travel; it can either slow it down or speed it up... or make it stand still.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:57 pm

    Time is only present in a state of change.

    Change of state comes from a desire to change the current state.

    Consider the Lillies of the field.

    Only from our state and perception, a state of change, do they appear to change also, but if they lived on a world where only other Lillies lived, they might live in a state of eternal life.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:34 pm

    Jofo is basically, very basically, correct Wink

    KISS

    Give that fool a prize.

    I have your answer Princess...are you ready for it?

    I am just going to say this.

    And I had to come back and answer Ackbar.

    Did they tell you to say that stuff man, you pierced my heart, much love man!

    I wish I had always heard your words from Dan or my family, shrug. But mothers and fathers can be dicks or loving idiots, but I love him anyway and I love my family as myself.

    I learned something, belief is a dangerous thing.

    I had to accept not being understood by people living in time.

    I never debate belief, I burn them.

    I am not going to argue with anyone.

    Because there is no argument.

    This is just the answer.

    I was just given the answer through a miracle which is to say Agape love, which was always here for me Wink

    Ohhhh, the monad, the fucking amazing god damned monad.

    Playing every part at once.

    Laughing ITs god damn heart out through us.

    Having the time of Life!!!!

    For IT is greater than THAT.

    IT is beyond consciousness, which is the world of appearances.

    It’s an amazing thing realization, gnosis.

    Hey baby, when you got you got it, and you just know it.

    And I got it.

    Get some.

    Gnosis is the evidence of things unseen.

    “Do what thou wilt, love is the law, love under will.”  - AC

    The answer to division is unification, Love. Embrace what you hate until there is no more hate in you.

    Or stay lost in illusion.

    “I am often asked why I begin my letters this way. No matter whether I am writing to my lady or to my butcher, always I begin with these eleven words. Why, how else should I begin? What other greeting could be so glad? Look, brother, we are free! Rejoice with me, sister, there is no law beyond Do what thou wilt!” — AC

    The Hermit has lit his lamp and left his cave and is going to and fro looking for Human Beings.

    HERE IS YOUR ANSWER

    This is Agape Love, “uniting of some one monad with one of the experiences possible to it.”

    And thus we have the solution for time, which is the division by opposites caused by the knowledge of good and evil, Agape Love.

    Good is balanced proportion acting in its nature.

    Love is the monad connecting to its intended experience.

    It is so incredible right now. I see it so clearly.

    The Spinx is the solution to time, rejoining the 4 forces into us, the 5 element

    **BOOM**

    Good and evil introduced by the tree of knowledge, created division, time, separation.

    That’s a symbolic story in our DNA.

    Division created time.

    Agape is acting in accordance with your nature and combining the 4 forces under will.

    If you want to join me on this level, you must remove division in you.

    All of it.

    You can then make portals spontaneously every moment to zero point.

    Limitless possibilities, energy, teleportation.

    It is here for any who were meant for IT.

    Transcend good and evil. I know you guyz can do it!

    AC only became the beast to eat the poisonous to love what he hates, he transcended the opposites.

    You only profane yourself until the work is done.

    It is the price for the knowledge.

    Imagine what we are restored to love.

    “Turn not therefore away thine Eyes, for that they are too pure to behold Evil; but look upon Evil with Joy, comprehending it in the Fervour of this Light that I have enkindled in thy Mind. Learn also that every Thing soever is Evil, if thou consider it as apart, static and in Division.”

    The “Knowledge of Good and Evil” is, therefore, the tainting of impressions by the judgmental mind. The mind labels impressions “good” or “evil”, and it is this labelling that is the “impurity”, because it colours and pollutes the pure impressions themselves. So why should one “seek ever those Things which are to thee poisonous…and make them thine by Love”? Simply to practice ceasing to label impressions in this way, to experience those things which you find distasteful until you simply stop finding them distasteful. Cap. EB tells us what happens if we don’t:

    “But now consider him that worketh not with his will, how his mind is idle, not reaching out after reality, but debating within itself of its own affairs, like a democracy, introspective. This this mind, not reacting equally and with elasticity to the world, is lost in its own anarchy and civil war, so that although it works not, it is overcome by weakness of division, and becometh Choronzon.”

    If you are stuck in time, you profane the perfect, you are an abomination, a Daimon.

    Rise from your slumber and embrace the sword of your will, love under will.

    Now DARE and fly you fools.

    The Moon has spoken clearly.

    I have been received into her sweet nurturing bosom.

    Seek out the Book of Lies and solve the riddle of the Sphinx yourselves if you have not.

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    Beware, for any that would deny me is your enemy.

    For I love you, truly and always.

    As if we had a choice, only choice we have is to decide to remain in separation or merge with the Monad. You can be here merged. That is how to get back to Eden, when Will is finally surrendered.

    Time is not evil, it just gives you a chance to stretch your legs and get some perspective.

    Of course, no doubt, this is the Best Fucking God Damned Possible World. The new acronym...

    BFGDPW

    Now go have fun with it.

    What do I win?

    Do I get to go to the front of the line, thou, who has been least, a fool Wink

    Peace and Love forever mother fuckers, that’s my prize Wink

    So have no fear, death will come soon enough, can you love your fate?

    You must to transcend it.

    Remember how Seneca said to have a long life, use it well, under will, in love.

    Memento Mori, Amor Fati
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    Post by hobbit Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:36 am

    Time is the switching rate of implosion over outrush relative to the dominant field You are within.

    Consciousness is imploding into this planets field system , that which is not utilised up in creation outrushes.

    The rate is 55/34.

    Your field is self similar, as a by product of the creation on the surface area of this planet.

    The moon is the biggest clue to all of this as it's field interacts and alters fractionally this planets ratio of implosion over outrush as it passes between here and the suns field.

    The time on the moon is different to here, the time on all other planets is different to here.

    The ratios are Fibonacci sequenced.

    The means of varying time is in that ratio of Fibonacci sequencing of implosion over outrush.
    It's always teatime.

    Of't to put kettle on

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    Post by dan Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:38 am

    If said athletic event takes place as expected, in the next few weeks, our disclosure task will, for the most part, have been completed.  The rest can handled by the clean up crew.  We’ll be outa here.  Thanks for all the fun.
    ...............

    Just to recap the time business.......

    There is chronos, and then there is carpe diem.  The carpe part is what will have been completed.  We’ll be able to pull out on time.  

    And, as usual, Foot spilled a few beans, when he blurted that time had something to do with gravity, and we’re not just talking general relativity, are we. We asked Kashmir about this, and she drew a sailboat on my palm. That is definitely above my pay grade. It will be left as an exercise for the reader.

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    Post by painterdoug Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:31 am

    so do we have an answer to the following ? if so please insert ,following each question /

    How would you define + 0

    + (“What is time?”)

    + (“Who is time?”)

    + (“Why is time?”)

    + (“Where is time?”)
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:30 am

    I knew Smelly would come in here and sum it up nicely for me.

    I had the answer inside my heart but I was using my head too much, thanks Smelly!

    The goat strikes again, haha!

    I’m addicted to thinking sometimes.

    It gets in the way.

    All this nonsense about the Donkim show is just mud, just another distraction you fools.

    Gravity? What is gravity?

    It is agape too you fools, haha.

    The earth and the moon are the perfect example of two celestial bodies expressing perfect agape.

    Separate and distinct, yet perfect in balance and harmony.

    Brought together by gravity.

    Brought together by love.

    Falling towards each other in eternal harmony.
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    Post by dan Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:39 am

    Yes, sports fans, Time is all of the above.

    And, just allow me to recap........ time is by us, for us and about us, as is all the rest of Creation. And, as part of a continuing negotiation with Kashmir, henceforth, and forevermore, we shall be including ‘leopards’ in with the rest of us...... the best of us.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:10 am

    Smelly has officially graduated to guru status, but that is a subjective matter depending on who is doing the asking I guess, just like everything else.

    Dan continues to dangle carrots of disclosure, helping the guru peel more layers of self back, whether by intention or not he has been hacked by the guru, haha. Guru the love hacker.

    The beautiful thing is that once that third eye has opened, nothing escapes it’s all piercing gaze. Everything becomes a useful reflection, the good, the bad, the beautiful and the ugly, all things in one.

    I’m still not 100 percent sure which category disclosure falls into, but it don’t matter folks, all things are one. All things are a reflection. Transparent mirrors abound, Donkim show or no Donkim show.

    The illusion of time is the illusion of division.

    Jesus said be as children.

    I say be as a newborn baby, unaffected by the illusion of division. Be headless. Be agape.
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    Post by painterdoug Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:12 am

    dan /   if time is all of the above,  then my answer too?  I don't know what time is?

    and if its by us, how did we go about creating it.  were we once in a time of no time, and then created time?

    do animals have time?  well they surely keep good time, especially the 7 year locusts.

    the planets spin, night and day comes for all and a marker is provided for all who can perceive even if you don't have a mavado


    who is time?   us?   were time?  were also compost  

    why is time?     brought together by love?  what is love ?  most people that spout love are venomous  in the next breath.  

    where is time? everywhere?   where is everywhere if we can't be everywhere to check.  

    and of course,    define  +  zero ?

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