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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by jofo Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:21 am

    First topic message reminder :

    nice to be back to our regularly scheduled programming

    if only eric were here...i miss him, his perspective and contribution
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    Post by dan Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:40 pm

    Ok, hobbit, now we’re talking........

    Physicists, in the laboratory, see an absolute minimal coupling between time and gravity.  It can only be measured in nanoseconds, even with satellites.  

    Evidently, there is a phenomenal aspect to time and gravity that the scientists are missing, and it almost certainly has something to do with portals.  

    This phenomenal aspect of time has to do with Kairos, whereas scientific time has to do with Chronos.  

    We find a similar dichotomy with the Holy Spirit...... the old animistic version, and the newer dynamistic version.  I guess I’m more with the old fashioned, incarnational/representational version.  I guess that smelly is desperately fearful that my incarnational rendition will somehow devour his dynamism.  I don’t think so.  

    There is also deep, logical, Creational time, which is paleontological time, as opposed to phenomenal/historical time.  With a portal, we are delving into deep time, which is also the Kairos and Logos, even the Telos.  

    Deep/Creational time is also ontogenetic/magical time.   You have to be careful what you wish for, when you go to the well.  


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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:45 pm

    What a coincidence Hobbit. At the same time when you posted your link about the H.S., I was reading up elsewhere about the H.S. when doing a look-up on the term Kenosis.


    Kenosis/emptying oneself > to then be filled with the H.S./Grace > which results in Unification with God

    Another usage of Kenosis:
    Creation came about at the Kenosis of God.
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    Post by GrandCru Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:07 pm

    Is it possible that a portal or a related circumstance changes the way humanity, on earth, experiences space time?
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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:13 pm

    Kairos >Portals>a dynamic change in time which also results in a change in how we experience space and time at that moment which is initiated through action.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:15 pm

    Guys, you already know it, but pay no attention to me.

    I am a fool.

    A bumbling fool here.

    The fool's fool I guess.

    The fool fooled me into fooling myself really.

    I'm just fooling with ya'll.

    I really like all of you a lot though. You are all like my family. I mean that from my heart.

    Just picture me as the family goof ball. Very Happy

    Dan knows how clueless I am.

    Dan knows I'm just like a kid who found a box of matches.

    The flames are hypnotizing.

    I'll probably burn my finger at some point if I haven't already.

    The first time I spoke with Eric here on OMF he called me 'pretender'.

    He knew me. He knows the real me.

    I don't know anything about time and gravity.

    I just know fun.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:35 pm

    If I sound like Eric Im sorry. I don't know what's going on. It's like I'm under a spell. Maybe there is black magic involved, I don't know. It freaks me out too. It wasn't Eric's doing though, it was the shadow visitor I had the other night I think.

    I lost my soul that night maybe and now I have to borrow other people's energy to continue living.

    Maybe....I have no idea though.

    Don't freak out though, I'm still there, underneath it all there are glimpses of the real me.

    I'll get over it probably.

    I'm not crazy though. I'm just weird.
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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:56 pm

    Rest assured, as long as you participate on this board, it will continue. Smile It's not all sunshine and rainbows though.... You'll have a mixture of both; the disturbing and the beautiful.

    Am I responsible for it? No. Dan is. Smile
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:14 pm

    There wasn't a real shadow visitor though. Let's just say I'm speaking metaphorically.

    Weird stuff has been happening to me ever since I started here on OMF.

    Sometimes I think I'm loosing my mind.

    I will admit though. I have always had that parrot behavior as long as I can remember.

    In High School I become close friends with a German kid and I started speaking with a German accent. Haha.

    My wife is Mongolian and I speak with her accent when I get to work first thing in the morning.

    It's involuntary. I think I get it from my Mom. She does it too. She works as a teacher at a school with 85% hispanic students and she comes home and talks with a Spanish accent.

    Yes it is weird or odd. I prefer to say different. Different is beautiful. It must seem like I'm trying to fit in or something like that, but It's not about that, at least not consciously.

    My family are musicians and artists too. I think the best way to describe it is like getting a song stuck in my head. The way people talk is like music to me and it can get 'stuck in my head'.

    It's involuntary.

    Oh well.
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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:54 pm

    I always experience an increase in mind visions, vivid lucid dreams and hypnagogic visions when I participate or even only lurk in Dan's thread and this goes all the way back to when he had a thread at the old forum too.

    All I can say is that he's got a lot of energy that I think comes from his 'higher self'... which is very powerful. That Sophia connection is definitely there.

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    You must be a good mimicker then! In accents.Smile

    I imagine you're also a strong empath.

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    I'm not anything. A cultural Catholic, yes. Once you're born into it, it's there forever but I've been an agnostic most of my adult life and I've never been a joiner. I march to my own drummer. I'm not even a seeker. I just evaluate what comes my way and then maybe I'll snoop around to find out if others have had the same experiences. I'm very shallow and there's not much there. I know a little about a lot, which makes me a good conversationalist but I know very little in-depth on ANY topic. But I love intellectual challenges though and Dan's ongoing material is giving that to me. Ok... how much do I owe you for this session? lol  And, oh yea. I'm sorry I've been such a bitch. But sometimes I'm like that too. But I'm working on it though.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:21 pm

    Haha, no worries. I know you also have certain roles here in OMF to help keep things focused and I appreciate that. I have a tendency to have a holier than thou attidude sometimes also, which I’m working on.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:38 pm

    New record for synchronized drone light show in olympics opening ceremony.

    1200+ drones working together.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTO6ZfUiG98&feature=share
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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:12 am

    They can do that with drones? Wow!
    The first time I watched it, I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
    The second time I watched it, the goose bumps popped up and the tears started flowing. The future is here and it's soooooo awesome!

    Thanks for posting that vid. I haven't been keeping up with the Olympics this year.

    Simply amazing. wow....
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    Post by dan Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:28 am

    Back on Jan 31, p18/425, ( https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t279p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2#11638 ) Aliyah posed the following question.......
    How would you define + 0

    + (“What is time?”)

    + (“Who is time?”)

    + (“Why is time?”)

    + (“Where is time?”)

    ..................

    Then she added the following comment..........

    If time is so important for disclosure, how come no one knows what, who, why and where (it/he/she) is?

    No one has come up with a suitable answer, not even Footmann.  

    For one thing, she is not actually asking the questions.  She is asking for a definition of the series of questions.  

    And what does ‘+ 0’ have to do with it?  It is a mathematical formula, of a strange sort, rather precisely written.  

    Who, what, where, why and when......  These are the essential questions that a reporter must address in any news article.  But when was the last time there was a news article about time?  

    This is, rather decidedly, an invitation to step outside the box of time and news.  This is an invitation to go to the other side.  

    I would also have to guess that this question was transmitted to the Princess just for the purpose of being posted.  Its logical formality requires a written format.  

    Never, in my experience, do mathematical series begin with a 0.  0 can only serve as a limit of a series.  

    It might be an inquiry as to the the provenance or ontogeny of time.  Before Chronos, we had only Kairos.  Kairos is the sacred ritual of circular time.  It is time from the perspective of the Creator....... sub specie aeternitas.  

    It may have been Aristotle who broke the sacred circle, with all his practicality.  He sundered the One.  

    Spinoza may have addressed this question, as none other, with his God as One and all...... indivisible. Chronos may be divided indefinitely. Kairos is an indivisible One.

    When you attempt to distinguish Creator from Creation, you have committed the Cardinal Sin. This was our one-way ticket to Hell. Jesus reintroduced Kairos into historical time, in a perfectly singular fashion. The cleanup crew stands ready to clean up.


    (cont.......)


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    Post by DrZaius Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:06 am

    I'm just a guy wearing a hat with bells on it, but I'll shoot one from half court just cause the timer hasn't reached zero (pun intended).

    + 0 = now
    + ("What is time?") = Experience
    + ("Who is time?") = Cosmic Intelligence
    + ("Why is time?") = So CI can experience self
    + ("Where is time?") = Time is mental. It is where we are or where we put it.
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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:14 am

    If time is circular, then that means history repeats itself over and over again.
    And if there is such a thing as reincarnation, in actuality, it's just us living the same lifetime over again in the next cycle of history.
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    "Jesus reintroduced Kairos into historical time, in a perfectly singular fashion. The cleanup crew stands ready to clean up."

    So now instead of going from cycle to cycle, we're back to eternity?


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    Post by dan Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:26 am

    No, 99....... WRONG......

    Time is NOT circular.   It is the singular, best possible, sacred Circuit.  There is all the difference in the world, between those two concepts.  You have been paying ZERO attention.  I have to slap your wrist.  

    There is no repetition or redundancy, with that Sacred Circuit.   Jesus demonstrated this as none other.  We are the cleanup crew.
    ..........


    DZ,

    Yes, good try, but you are only attempting to answer the embedded questions.  You are not addressing the series, itself.  


    Note bene, that when ‘we’ severed the Sacred Circuit of Kairos/time, it was actually Jesus who severed the Gordian Knot (BC/AD).  He committed the unpardonable sin.  Only we can pardon him, retrospectively, with our understanding of this Kairos/Chronos as the BPW.  


    So, here, sports fans, is the final correct answer to the Princess’ question.......

    It was Mary who created/severed time at 0 AD, by giving birth to El Niño in Bethlehem. Why? Because she so loved the World. This series of questions is the Portal, to end all portals. Yes, Princess?

    Any other questions?

    .


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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:27 am

    That makes more sense Dan, thanks!
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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:00 am

    "It was Mary who created/severed time at 0 AD, by giving birth to El Niño in Bethlehem. Why? Because she so loved the World." (dan)

    Very logical, very elegant, very compelling and very true!

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    Post by dan Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:11 am

    No Dan that is not the answer I am looking forward to......

    On further reflection, Princess, I believe you will find that your answer is embedded in my answer.  

    I understand embedded systems.  

    Would you like to arm wrestle, Princess?

    Are you challenging me to a duo?  

    Yes, Princess,

    We are on! When and where?

    At your place, on go to meeting, at your early convenience. You may have Kashmir be your proxy, if you like.

    I think i will!
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:28 am

    I love Mary. I pray to Mary. She guides my path towards love and God. My birthday is on Stella Maris day. I have a salt rock lamp on my desk at work that represents our Lady. The Princess is her, my wife is her, my daughters are her, my mother is her, peace and love be upon her grace through time and eternity. She is the divine feminine, the queen of heaven. She resides in every woman. She is my entangled particle.

    I knew the answer all along down in my heart. What a glorious revelation! Thank you Dan and The Princess!


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:31 am

    This poem came to me a couple months ago as I was meditating on Our Lady, the Queen of Heaven.

    A life of learning has left me longing still for something more.
    So gripping the distraction that knowledge gives today.
    For all the books in all the world can nay but lead astray
    from understanding truth in form that deep with me lay.

    When particles are torn apart entangled journeys will embark.
    Time and place though try they will, cannot divert collision still.
    For when the stars above align then Miryam, her grace sublime, will point the way towards the light
    and drive away the bitter knight, leading to eternal life.

    I come now to a place that’s dim seeking for a flame within
    to burn away my weathered skin, born again through my own shadow.
    I leave behind the chains of ego, renewed, an empty vessel.
    Powerless I came to be then grace her love has set me free.

    What once was real is now a dream and dreams they have no boundaries.
    What is my role? Who am I now? Am I the dreamer in the castle? I pray I’ll have the love to fill this boundless mantle.
    What splendid rapture comes at dawn once through the fires I have come.
    And now I set my sails t’wards a place of beauty, shangri la, within the company of Royalty.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:36 am

    Look at the Chronicles Men and notice how The Footman worships the ground that The Princess walks on. We should all treat the women in our life in a like manner. I’m guilty of not doing a good job, but I’m working on improving.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:58 am

    Dan said “because she so loved the world” instead of “because he so loved the world.” Very beautiful new angle of insight for me to meditate on. Thank you!
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    Post by dan Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:17 am

    Kairos time is (Quantum) entangled time.  It is the Cosmic Knot.  

    The Mary/Jesus duo severed that knot, giving us linear, Chronos time.  

    In effect Jesus was The Proxy for the cosmic Observer.  His participatory intervention into Kairos time ‘single handedly’ created the crux of the Metanarrative that we call historical time.  That the world is now wired is the direct result.  We are now ready to bring historical time back through the Portal to Kairos.  

    Julian Jaynes might object, placing the breakdown of the bicameral mind at the explosion of Thera, ~1460 BC.  Being a personalist, rather than a volcanologist, I beg to differ.  



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    Post by hobbit Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:49 am

    Time is a switching rate.
    No-thing actually exists except as memory that switches on/off.
    The rate of on/off is relative to the dominant field We are in.

    0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55.89.144.

    This planet is IMHO ( in My hobbit opinion) is 55/34.
    That is gravity also.

    Consciousness ( holy spirit ) implodes into the heart centre , then reverses as outrush spinning in the opposite direction.
    The net difference between 55 and 34 is utilised up in creation and enabling current creations to switch on/off.

    We age relative to this switching rate as each encoded memory slowly forgets how to switch exactly the self same.

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