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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

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    Post by jofo Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:21 am

    First topic message reminder :

    nice to be back to our regularly scheduled programming

    if only eric were here...i miss him, his perspective and contribution
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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:42 am

    Dan Smith wrote:Cyrellys, believes that the shock of a thousand people eating babies is more shocking than the millions who are dying of drug overdoses.  And she is probably right.  But she shares she short term outlook with smelly.  Both smelly and Cyrellys are comfortable with shocking the ego right out you.  

    This is where Dan has me all wrong.  I'm actually a far longer time frame than he conceptualizes for himself...

    I'm sitting atop a multi-million + year story.  But Dan isn't interested.

    He talks about seeing the reality by going small but when I go small and use real life examples of what he and others are howling about, he chokes and implies I'm a nut.

    What is being tinkered here with is serious, but they dismiss it as they dismiss the value of life and call it all illusion or game.  

    Calling the prepositioning of nukes in 5 US Cities circa 2008 Ghosttroop in part a "Illusion or Game" in the NWO you all espouse here amid the depopulationists who want to force all of humanity to make an existential leap to a higher state of being by mass annihilation is not Illusion or Game.  

    Unlike all here I don't find it and extra judicial murder endowed drones amusing.

    Frankly, Knowing what I know about the paradigm and all the various cretins in it, I'm totally stoked that our good POTUS is having the Weishupt Crowd rounded up and run thru GITMO.  Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of freaks.  

    You all forget that God judges a person by their UNCONCERN.  

    1.  You insist his creation is Illusion
    2.  You insist the suffering and wrong created by those who espouse your philosophizing as Illusion
    3.  You participate in Depopulation Agenda like a bunch of kids in a candy store totally disregarding implications and interconnections.
    4.  Someone like me as a LAND SOVEREIGN/BANAIS RIGHI points it out to you and you foolishly scoff.
    5.  But Smelly in one of his recent Vedic posts can accurately describe a Land Sovereign / Banais Righi...so you're all not half as stupid as you sound.

    Dropping the despicable Crimes Against Humanity Weishaupt I just ran thru a meat grinder on the proverbial floor in front of everyone and walking away.

    Cy


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:48 am

    “the irreducible element of rascality"~Alan Watts

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:48 am

    I come now to a place that’s dim, seeking for a flame within.
    I burn away my weathered skin, born again and born from sin
    I leave behind the chains of doubt and fill the gaps with smelly grout
    Powerless I came to be, her grace sublime has set me free

    Sitting on the egg she keeps it warm
    Keeps me safe from the pressing storm
    Boundless is my energy
    When I hatch the world will then be free
    E8 says I'm the only one, I'm the 32 leaves of the midnight Son
    Who am I to deny my truth, when I've seen the mirrors in the ticket booth?

    Splish splash, I'm swimming in this big bath
    I'm drowning in my sack cloth and feeling the pain
    Big bang, I'm hangin on the landscape of never-ending spirals
    Hallucinations viral have faded away

    Whatever it takes!
    I'm gonna ride the waves of destruction
    Up up and away
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:52 am

    We will never convince each other.

    Why tryz?

    No one iz right or wrong.

    Do your thang and who carez what anyone else doez?

    Why worry about it all?

    Itz amusing iz all.

    UFOz, what strange Dayz.

    Apocalypz.

    Oh, deadly seriouz?

    Thatz funny.

    I certainly can’t convince anyone not to care about the world, just Love it as yourselfz.


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:54 am

    Those depopulation elite need some more Lucifer in their life.

    The 7 headed dragon will eat all their nukes for breakfast and then light the world on fire.

    The Donkim show will light up the dark.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:59 am

    Make love, not war, dance and play the gloriouz game of Kingz and Queenz.
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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:01 pm

    Cyrellys,

    The main difference between us is that you think that we are guinea pigs in a cosmic experiment..... playthings of the gods.  

    I don’t know who your God is, but it is not the Mother of Jesus.  

    If Jesus only got one thing right, he figured out that we were the apple of God’s eye.  If you can’t bring yourself to believe this, I feel very sorry for you, Cy.  

    Do you really believe, Cy, that you are a better parent than God?  I don’t where you got that idea, Cy, but it is a wrongheaded idea.  This false notion of God may have come down to you through generations of your family.  Were all of them mistaken?  If you ever learn that the truth could be otherwise, will you ever be able to forgive them?  

    Much hangs in that balance, Cy.  Don’t think I don’t know.  

    Do you not know, Cy, that God has counted every hair on the head of every one of your children? Can you not believe it? Can you not believe that the Source is much closer to you than the nose on your face?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:07 pm

    I’m just dropping flowerz Cy.

    Cy, the universe will bring to each what iz needed.

    You can bet the farm on that one.

    I don’t believe in reincarnation.

    But you will alwayz reap what you sewz.

    Thingz will just work out.

    Seen it too many timez not to just laugh.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:14 pm

    So if we are all apples and the orchard is overgrown, what is to be done?

    If we all created this orchard by eating our own apples, how do we climb back up the tree and spit the apple back out without getting chunks of chewed apples in each others faces?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:20 pm

    All you can do is clear your own vision and polish your heart.

    No one else or thang is your or my problem.

    Matthew 7:3-5 New International Version (NIV)

    3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”

    Perhaps we are a mote in God’s Eye Dan. The Way to the Tao is a watercourse way.

    You can’t contain it.


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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:23 pm

    Ackbar,

    How could the best possible orchard be overgrown?

    Why, in God’s name, would you want to spit out one his apples, any more than you would want to spit out a communion wafer, if you ever happened to take Communion.


    smelly,

    I wondered what I would have to do to get you to quote Scripture.

    I have to stand on my head, and spit wooden nickels.



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:24 pm

    Dan,

    What role do the 7 incarnations play in the best possible world hypothesis?

    That's a good point about the orchard.

    Actually, my entire illustration was quite silly to begin with.

    Yes, the best possible world could not possibly be overrun.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:30 pm

    Dan playz so many sidez I begin to suspect he really knowz he knowz nothingz and he iz just laughing at your expense...

    Naaaaaaaaaaaaa.

    He may be the last true belieber.

    Bless his old grey head.

    Just goes to showz age doesn’t equal wize.

    Bahahaha.

    I say we just call each otherz namez.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:33 pm

    I do think he plays many sides, but I'm not sure he is laughing at my expense.

    I haven't spent anything, so he couldn't.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:40 pm

    I meant laughing at all of us.

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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:48 pm

    Ackbar,

    We are all direct incarnations of the Source.  

    Was Jesus special?  Yes.  God said, give me a fulcrum and I will move the world.  We did, and God did.  That’s why we’re here, talking.  

    That’s what we’re supposed to be talking about, if smelly will let us get a word in edgewise.  


    smelly,

    Are we a mote in God’s eye..........?

    Yes, many would like to suppose as much. Then we could all be like you, and not give a damn.

    That is a falsifiable statement, Eric, and it is about to be falsified. It will turn out that your parents were right, after all, and you were an ungrateful reprobate. There is only one person who can forgive you, Eric. It is Jesus. Eventually, you will learn to pray. It will be the toughest lesson of your life. But I’ll tell you a deep, dark secret. Marissa prays for your soul, every night.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:54 pm

    Which version of Jesus Dan?

    Have you met him?

    We have only been talking about thiz here now.

    You have been doing tons of blabbing.

    Continue...
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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:07 pm

    Well, well, smelly, I’ve been wondering when our moment of truth might come.......

    Yes, I may have met Jesus, because I might be Jesus.

    Would you, smelly, or anyone else be any less, if it were to turn out that I were Jesus? I don’t think so, in fact, I will prove the opposite.





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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:08 pm

    Boom! We have 3 incarnations now if I'm counting correctly.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:11 pm

    Do you believe the "7" are a specific 7 individuals, or do you believe they represent a more general and larger group of individuals who have tapped into a higher understanding and state of being? How would these incarnations know what they are and what their role is? Are you one of them? How many have already been identified? Who will be the judge of whether or not someone is an incarnation?

    I would assume that someone who has truly become an "incarnation" would not identify themselves in a straight forward manner. They would just start living their lives like a Buddha or a Jesus and people would notice. They would be like, "sayest this thyself, or do others tell of the". That kind of thing.
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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:17 pm

    Ackbar,

    I have stated, repeatedly, that whoever turns out to be the Spirit of Truth , will, logically, also be the other six.

    And I have stated repeatedly that it is perfectly logical to suppose that I’m a contender. Nay, that I’m a prime contender. I keep waiting for the real one to either tap me on the shoulder, or strike me dead.



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:20 pm

    I never caught that before, thanks for the clarification.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:21 pm

    Dan,

    You are the Spirit of Truth. I'll be your first disciple.
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    Post by dan Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:25 pm

    Well, ok then, Ackbar, I guess we’re off and running.

    If both of us are struck dead, within the next 24 hours, it’s likely that we guessed wrong.

    But, hey, you can’t say we didn’t try.

    By the way, Ackbar, you have my phone number. Is it you or your brother who is the philosopher?
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:33 pm

    I guess the first order of business then is to feed your sheep. After all, I do love you. I'll have a hard time leaving my nets straightaway. That's okay, I'll focus on one day at a time and one person at a time. No force feeding, just offering little nuggets here and there, mostly focusing on teaching by living like Jesus and doing good deeds.

    If you ever have a reenactment of the sermon on the mount make sure and invite me over. That's my favorite part. Smile

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