Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

dan wrote:Cy,

I'm not in favor of guns, but I understand that some folks need that extra sense of security.  

Yesterday we were at the national Cathedral doing the flower market for Kashmir-Rose.  Today we are headed to a WCUAVC flight day at a school down here.  


Was looking at the connection between India and Greece back in the day.  In fact there was a Greco-Indian empire, created by Alexander the Great.  The mutual influence



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From: Dan
Date: June 5, 2015 at 11:39:27 AM EDT
To: C Langan
Cc: Paul, Deborah, Colton, Robert, Larry and Cy

Subject: Re: Trusting......?

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Allow me to introduce Cy...... She is the owner of the Open Minds Forum to which I have been posting (daily) for the last several years.  She is also a sheep rancher in Montana, not so far from where my departed sister used to live on her half-section in the mountains.  She and Louise belong(ed) to the Patriot movement, and she is of an Irish/celtic lineage.  

Here is her post from yesterday........

>>Well Dan, you seem to be making some headway.  

I greatly appreciate what Paul Z & CL had to say on the subject of Alpha C. The people with the will to go and the kind of pioneering spirit needed to make such a venture successful have already pulled out of the System in disgust. They've thrown in their lot with the American Liberty Community because it's philosophy of seeking to achieve self-sustainability, honest economics, real education based on truths rather than ptb sustaining lies is more appealing.
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Next I quote her response to an earlier question of mine on the forum......

>>Dan I've answered this question the last several times you asked it, and now you're asking me again?  [yes, Cy is patient with me!]

The Source (aka Universal Source) is the consciousness responsible for the creation of the universe within which you exist.

What has it done for me?  What have I done for it? I am a part of it, I am a partner of it, and I am a product of it.

Synchronicity is the perceivable hand of the Source operation within the perception range of humanity affecting our environment and circumstances.

Where is the Source within our hour of need?  All around us.  Each person is a part of it, a partner of it (when aware), and a product of it.  You can't return to it, because you're already part of it and it a part of you.  Yet you have independence and individuality, and natural rights in relation to it, the universe, and all other Beings.  It does not interfere in Free Will.  

Humanity however has on the part of some individuals and groups created a conundrum.  This conundrum if it fully manifests will adversely affect the rest of the universe over the long term.  Part of this conundrum is the threat of the destruction the human race here on Earth by members of its own people under the rubric of depopulation and under circumstances that ostensibly make it easy for abject evil to hide it among natural cataclysm and a manufactured collapse of civilization, and amid an undisclosed extraterrestrial contact.  This is no fault of ET.  Natural events are being used to facilitate acts of abject evil and control.  Some of these events like Contact are appropriate for this time and circumstance; even necessary.  Other events are unavoidable.
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Like I say, Chris, you and I seem to be the only Xtians in these parts, so we'd better behave ourselves.......


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skaizlimit wrote:Dan, the illustrious ever inquiring one, suffered a stroke this past Saturday.  He is recovering in hospital at this time, and expects to be back on line soon.

From: Dan
Date: June 10, 2015 at 3:05:29 AM EDT
To: Paul
Subject: Hollow Earth

Paul,

What I had not quite realized was that the hollow earth theory is the same as what Deborah was calling 'extreme idealism', today or rather yesterday

Dan

From: Dan
Date: June 10, 2015 at 7:40:17 AM EDT
To: Deborah Nash
Cc: Paul Z, Colton F
Subject: Re: Hollow Earth

[I mean] Who has not?


On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Dan > wrote:

Deborah,

Have you ever heard of this theory?

From: Dan
Date: June 16, 2015 at 6:56:58 PM EDT
To: Paul Z and Deborah N
Subject: Time frame for small world

1.)  Hamlet's Mill - de Santillana and von Dechend

2.)  Prophetic tradition

3.)  CohTT - the big world of humanity lost in time and space is incoherent.

4.)  The big world in the Eastern tradition is inspired by politics and its negative view or its escapism.

All News Pipeline wrote:

June 16, 2015

Bilderberg Leader P. Thiel And The CIA Surround Veterans Using Jade Helm

By Jerry W. Davis - Published by All News PipeLine with permission - Original Article at JerryWDavis.com

I listened to a very interesting radio show last night called The Pete Santilli Show. Mr. Santilli was discussing a Bilderberger named Pete Thiel and Mr. Thiels artifical intelligence software called "Palantir", which is software that uses natural search language to identify potential criminal activy. It does other things too, but our conversation is focused on the "predicting criminal activity" part, and the relationship Pete Thiel has with Washington, D.C., the Bilderbergers and Jade Helm.

To save some time, "JADE" is a software application the military is now using that allocates manpower and equipment on-the-fly based on prior experience and events. It is an artificial intelligence application that learns which tactics and personnel were most successful in different scenarios. That is the "JADE" part of Jade Helm. JADE is taking the helm (lead) in this exercise, and the plan is to encompass the most dense pockets of veterans. It is either a practice run at fighting a civil war against constitutionalists, or it is indeed a civil war. The target: Dense populations of veterans giving the most bang-for-the-buck to the globalists.

First, a short wiki link to Mr. Thiels wiki page: (the link to the entire page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel )

Bilderberg Group Thiel is listed as a member of the Steering Committee of the Bilderberg Group, a private, annual gathering of intellectual figures, political leaders and business executives.[62] Support for political activism Thiel is a self-described conservative libertarian.[63] Thiel has supported gay-rights causes such as the American Foundation for Equal Rights and GOProud.[64] In 2010, Thiel held Homocon 2010 for GOProud, an LGBT conservative/libertarian organization, in his New York City apartment. Thiel himself is gay.[65][66][67]



The reason I note his homosexualism is because no follower of Jesus Christ can also be a homosexual and promote homosexualism. Its important because if one does not follow The Lord, one does in fact belong to Satan. When one belongs to Satan, bad outcomes are easy.

Bilderbergers Steering Committee


Let's note that Thiel is on the Steering Committee of the Bilderbergers, and that he is a homosexual. Assuming you already know that the Bilderbergers want to depopulate the earth, which includes your own death, do you think that the homosexual Thiel considers Gods command that we are our brothers keeper as important? To be homosexual is to establish enmity toward God. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah due to homosexual sin, and tells us that homosexualism is an abomination to Him. So no one who practices homosexualism is a child of the Most High. If one is not a child of The Lord, then one is by default the child of Satan. There is no "middle zone" for the undecided.

We have the child of Satan Peter Thiel steering the direction of the most powerful group of other children of Satan, the Bilderbergers. He leads them, guides the conversations and sets the agendas. Don't you think it is reasonable to believe the Bilderbergers are neck deep in Jade Helm?

The Bilderbergers are well known to many, and any Startpage.com search (a private, secure search engine that uses anonymous google search results for you) for them will get you a ton of great information. The short story is this: Bilderbergers want to decrease the human population of the earthy by several billion. Yeah, that's you and me and all our friends - dead.

Its all about world government, hidden behind the word "globalization". Whenever you hear that word, know this: It is about world government where one despotic devil rules over a handful of other despotic devils, who own and operate major corporations, sit on the boards of others, "govern" nations, and all steal from each other while you and I starve to death or are executed because we are Christians and refuse the Mark of the Beast. Government becomes a mere tool to use military force to enslave populations of entire nations.

Jade Helm 15


Billionaire Pete Thiel the homosexual Bilderberger Steering Committee member is using his frighteningly powerful Palantir software to identify the areas where the most US military veterans are concentrated. According to his own wiki, he does business with multiple Federal agencies, including the NSA and CIA.

The CIA Funded Palantir


From Thiel's own wiki page, an image I took as proof that at least today, the information was published. Click the image to get a bigger look at it. The sentence in the center is all you need to read.

Image.Pete.Thiel.CIA.Palantir.Funding

So, either the CIA asked Thiel to run Palantir, or Thiel asked the CIA to fund it. Either way, Palantir is a spy machine that is used to predict outcomes based on variable input.

Note that Palantir is used "to predict outcomes". It is named after the Palantir stones used by Mordor in the LOrd of the Rings to see into the secret places.


Important! The CIA obviously believes JADE HELM has the DESIRED OUTCOME based on estimations by their Palantir technology.


The CIA wants to know where the most resistance to a world government ruling over the United States will come from and the answer, per Janet Napolitano, former Directer of the DHS, is "war veterans".

Download the unclassified DHS report here.

Watch the news video below.

Department of Homeland Security: Veterans are Terrorists and Right Wing Extremists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAygnB-xQCY

Palantir Map Of The Terrorist Veterans


The CIA subsequently wanted a map of the places where the population density of US war veterans is highest, and went to Pete Thiel, the Bilderberger and Director of Palantir to get the information.

Mr. Thiel produced the following map for the CIA. This map indicates where the CIA will find the most concentrated areas of military veterans, or as the DHS classifies them: TERRORISTS.

Image.Veterans.Palantir.jpg


The map above is unremarkable in and of itself. Lots of good fighters come from the Southwestern part of the United States. There are a lot of retired officers concentrated in Arizona, Texas and California.

But the one striking facet of the CIA/Palatin "veteran density" map is that it looks EXACTLY LIKE the JADE Helm 15 Hostile Territory map.

Image.Jade.Helm15.Large

In Colorado, the military dropped Jade Helm and replaced it with the same thing under a different name, Raider Focus. The dark blue area in the Colorado map is the Colorado Springs area. It is loaded up with US military veterans and I have seen the recent images of truck loads of razor wire being taken to somewhere in that area for the Raider Focus military operation.

Knowing the following:

The CIA is the financial sponsor of the Palantir software
The man who runs that Palantir operation is a homosexual Bilderberger leader
The Jade Helm/Raider Focus maps of operations surround the most dense populations of US military veterans
The DHS (another customer of Palatir) considers veterans terrorists

What do YOU think the true purpose of Jade Helm/Raider Focus is?


This original article located at http://www.jerrywdavis.com/bilderberg-leader-p-thiel-and-the-cia-surround-veterans-using-jade-helm/

From: Dan Smith
Date: June 18, 2015 at 12:38:39 PM EDT
To: Deborah Nash
Cc: Paul Zielinski
Subject: Fwd: Time frame for small world

Deborah,

[I'm referring to an intoductory section for Aliyah's KWF that will point to Colton's philosophy pages]

This ok, but I'm not thrilled.  It is little bit too pedantic, and I want to be on the wild side, to be provocative.  

But this is probably more like what Aliyah is looking for.  I will forward it to her in the meantime.  She only wants to post one edited section at time.  That is too slow for me.  We can run our independent site, if necessary, but right now we want focus on emails.

I would next like to recap where we are.  I see that Paul is challenging Jack on the qualia, which is where Jack is very weak.

We should be ready to engage with Chris.  I have a more tolerant view of what he is trying to do with his CTMU.  He is not trying to do standard logic, even though he may claim that.  

I like the fact that conventionalism may be a species of coherentism.  I will try to summarize the recent books that have been suggested.  Or I will guess at what they contain.

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dan wrote:

From: Dan Smith
Date: June 18, 2015 at 12:38:39 PM EDT
To: Deborah Nash
Cc: Paul Zielinski
Subject: Fwd: Time frame for small world

Deborah,

[I'm referring to an intoductory section for Aliyah's KWF that will point to Colton's philosophy pages]

This ok, but I'm not thrilled.  It is little bit too pedantic, and I want to be on the wild side, to be provocative.  

But this is probably more like what Aliyah is looking for.  I will forward it to her in the meantime.  She only wants to post one edited section at time.  That is too slow for me.  We can run our independent site, if necessary, but right now we want focus on emails.

I would next like to recap where we are.  I see that Paul is challenging Jack on the qualia, which is where Jack is very weak.

We should be ready to engage with Chris.  I have a more tolerant view of what he is trying to do with his CTMU.  He is not trying to do standard logic, even though he may claim that.  

I like the fact that conventionalism may be a species of coherentism.  I will try to summarize the recent books that have been suggested.  Or I will guess at what they contain.

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Cy,

You know I am pushing for a one world gov't.  It is called God's (millennial) kingdom.  It will work only if we perceive that these are the end times.  I know you don't.  You subscribe to the scientific cosmology.  Very pragmatic of you, but maybe not acurate.


Dan, back in 2008 on the UN Meeting thread (OMFv.1) I said I am not opposed to a one world government BUT we are not ready for it.  The corruption issue with the NWO/Illuminist crowd and several other competing parties 3/4 of whom are self destructive or destruction oriented prevent creating one as was outlined at the creation of the US Constitutional Republic which was designed to be a template for testing a governance system that could be duplicated later in global form.  This is part of the Source's Third Option where the facet of governance is concerned.

I correct you once more:  I DO NOT EXCLUSIVELY SUBSCRIBE TO SCIENTIFIC COSMOLOGY.  Science has only explored PART of one facet of reality at this point with a few exceptions, as I've read the Russians spent some time exploring the realm of consciousness.  

The universe and reality it inhabits is highly complex and humanity has barely scratched the surface of it.

Apparently you still are trapped in your own self-limitations wrt perception on my stance.  I'm not angry about your misunderstandings, just mildly annoyed but that's nothing new...I'm constantly replying to adjust your assumptions.

I think Ron has proof of the UTH, over the ETH, and he will be forced to release the proof in the next few months.  He also talks about having a craft that either I or the Princess will fly in the next few weeks.  He is coy about whether the 'craft' is primarily physical or metaphysical.

In a universe of psychophysiologic hologramic software operating matter (macro-quantum objects) and perception (upward chain of causality from here to Source/T-Boundary, through various biominds, accessed through a minds eye, including encoded reality matrices that consists of BOTH the UTH and the ETH, it is easy to find proof for either.  Does blindness to one exclude the existence of the other?  If I am blind does the tree I walked into not exist for me?  Amused remark.

We humans divy reality up into categories like UTH or ETH, when in truth it's all one reality with characteristics that both categories draw upon...separation into categories handicaps the perceiver and withholds the inter-connectivity information, imo.

I'm not legal to drive a car again, yet.  I can barely walk.

Give yourself some time to heal Dan.  Walking, driving, all that is not out of the question...just a temporary reset that opens other doors while you are physically required to be patient, grin.

Make the most of the opportunity, explore those other doors.



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GSB/SSR wrote:

Before you consider a "one world government" you should be aware of the developing "one world youth culture" -- often referred to by Michio Kaku as "rock 'n' roll and blue jeans" -- that appears to be sweeping across the planet.

Yes, some of this is engineered and propagates over the Internet (South Korea's Ministry of Future Creation and Science comes to mind) ...

“The People's Voice is the Voice of Heaven.”

On May 2013, a mission was created within the ministry, stating their purpose as "Becoming lead Gospel on ministry, and change country for god". According to their business plan, they planned to evangelize one person every month, identifying Islam as a cult organization. People worry about the religious neutrality of public servants.[12][13] A person in charge said "the business plan is just a document made by a member of the mission, and is not an official policy".[14]
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Science,_ICT_and_Future_Planning


(Note: The logo above was used by a K-Pop group called Girl's Day exclusively during promotion of a track called "Female President" -- "We have a female president. Why so serious? What’s the problem?" -- which was released shortly after N Korea slandered President Park. Released on the anniversary of the N Korean invasion of the South, it was later performed at the DMZ.)

2013 DMZ World Peace Concert https://youtu.be/6Rz_fnhu3vU?t=3093

Is this the subliminal visual politics of the "voice of heaven"  

From: Dan
Date: June 20, 2015 at 10:23:27 AM EDT
To: Paul
Cc: Deborah, Colton, Princess Aliyah
Subject: Re: "Atman" in Buddhism

Paul and Deborah,

First of all, atman = brahman.  There is only one soul that recirculates ~10^10 times that we share, all of us being soul mates and the reincarnations of each other.  Our eidetic memories, though, may be personal, and maybe cannot be accessed by other people and 'God'= brahman.  This is also universal man.    

Brahman is the cosmic Cs.  It has access to everything.  But it operates with a basically human soul.

There is no such thing as emptiness, except possibly as a psychological state.  Even the physicists know that there is no void.  It is just an abstraction.  Ask Paul this.  Ultimately there is agape or universal love.  This is the Parmenidean One that is that is held together by the cosmic Self.  

BTW, I heard from Ron this morn.  He was at a base, about to get on a helicopter to another base.  Maybe he preparing the craft for Aliyah and me to fly.

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