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What is evil?

What is non-existence?

What is the ego?

To know good and the higher self, we live as egotistical muppets.

We must follow the ego and develop it to its fullest to go to the end of the illusion of psychic life.

True for history as well.

The arch daimon of egoism leads us to the longing that calls to us.

Thus the civil war endeth.

A fool who persists in his folly can become wise.

If we condemn, we condemn that within ourselves.

It's a tricky slippery thing all this here now.

Following the ego to the end, and straight on is the hardest and then easiest work there is, we are transformed.

The meaning of the Tarot Fool can now be fully understood.

No muppets and ignorance, no drama, all of it, to lead us to the inner awareness.

This is the peace that surpasses understanding.

I like not having any problems or condemning anyone. It is a light feeling. A feeling of freedom from my ego hard won.

Doesn't mean I won't call you names or fart in your face.

Just know I do it with a grin.

Straight on.

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Bahahaha

The Visitor at the Lake ...

The alleged visitors have allegedly left.  Kevin allegedly has whatever news is liable to be available.  

Once again Ron will ask Kevin to call.  

What else is new?  Kevin, John and Bob are going to Skinwalker on Friday to retrieve one of Joe’s devices.  But the ranch had nothing to do with the visitation.  

The trip to South America is still on, but it also has nothing to do with the visitation.  

Bob might know something.  He might talk to me again.  

Besides Aliyah’s alleged visitor status, there are said to have been three visiting EBEs, over as many decades.  None of these visits have had any noticeable impact on the world.  Life goes on.  The world is no less precarious.  

No news from nowhere......?  Are we an inch closer to Disclosure?  It would be hard to say.  

At least we have something besides a rattling cage to ask about.


I’m still reading about John Dee.  Jason claims there was significant impact...... on British history.  That is debatable.  


Was there no photographic record......we might wonder?  If not, why not?  

I specifically asked about any follow up. There was no comment.  

So what was the purpose?  Just a social call?

A photograph would be useless without a narrative context.  The narrative could be much more important than any photograph.  

Will there be any impact on ufology? Can ufology continue on, business as usual? I would say not...... not until we chase down this incident. No previous incident compares in its potential impact.

How does this incident compare to the ongoing presence of Aliyah?



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Dan,

In Ron's post he stated 'a Visitor is now at the lake'.

You keep using the plural form, visitors, when you mention it.

So which is it? Was there just one or we're there many?

Also, did they arrive here using a portal or some other means?

Did Joe's rattling cage have anything to do with their visitation?

Just making sure we get the story straight.

Thank you, Aaron.  I had missed that.  Make that one (1) Visitor.

So, the world of ufology will never be the same.  How much impact has ufology had upon the world?

It has had considerable impact on modern culture.  More than can be measured, if it is not merely a transitory phenomenon...... not a just a flash in the pan....orama of history.  

Was Joe’s device instrumental?  It’s hard to imagine that it wasn’t.  

Aliyah has spoken of entanglement with regard to portals.  Joe, his device, the Church, etc...... would all have been part of that entanglement.  When Ron says that something did not have any connection....... I’m quite willing to be skeptical of his denial.  In retrospect, her invitation, yesterday, was also part of it, whether or not I availed myself.  

This is what can be said to be the resolution of the Rendezvous in the Desert..... so many moons ago..... over two years, now.  It’s been awhile.  

The impact of this alleged incident will take awhile..... many moons.... to sink in, but sink in it will.  I believe that we can take that to the bank, if smelly will give us that permission.  


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The fact that there was only one alleged visitor, now puts an emphasis on the identity of that one.  It is no longer just an anonymous visitation, IMHO.  

It is likely that Doug will mention this to Grant this evening.  It is something that is liable to have an impact on Doug’s musical.  It is hard to imagine otherwise.  

I asked about the follow up.  Maybe that was not the smartest question I ever asked.  

I’m reminded of a protocol in parapsychology...... I’m not sure is has a name......

It has to do with the business of a feedback protocol.  It is important that the subject be made aware of the results, even well after the fact.  It is important to the success that a feedback protocol be in place, before the fact.  Something like that may be going on here.  

That feedback is an essential part of the entanglement.  This is not unrelated to teleology, of course.

This is not unrelated to our being the coCreators of the entire shebang...... after the fact.  

So much for biblical inerrancy.  This is why I’m a personalist and not a biblicist.  I do like to read, though.  

Praising the Lord may not be entirely gratuitous..... in the scheme of things.

Do I have a choice to not embrace the alleged visitation? We’ll have to ask smelly. What does smelly embrace? Life....... I guess. Is this an essential aspect of life. That may be a matter of opinion. Is faith essential? That may not be an option.



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Thanks for the clarification Dan

Dan, have you ever read "The Chronos Conundrum" by Chase Brandon (former CIA)? Implies a cyclical Alpha-->Omega nature as you discuss. Is Aliyah a Fiverian or a Voracian I'd be curious to know...

Dan, I posted something you might find interesting in the other thread. The 'Living your Life' thread.

I'm curious in that allegory, which category you see yourself in and which category you see Smelly in...

I’m sorry, Nunia.  I doubt that I’ll have time to read the book, so I wouldn’t venture to comment.  

Understand, Nunia, that the BPWH is not cyclical.  It is the best possible singular Circuit.  The singular cosmic soul cycles through it, and each of us is one of those cycles.  The is the one soul theory of the world.... viz. the one electron theory of Wheeler/Feynman.  


Forum member, Doug the painter, is going to be on KGRA’s Cameron Files tonight at 8.  He may make mention of the visitation.  Rick Doty will be in the audience, we’re told.  I don’t know if there is a call in line.


Aaron,

I think it may be getting harder to see daylight between smelly and me on some of the basic issues.  

Each of us is an actor in the world.  Not acting is unnatural.   We keep trying to act by our best lights.  It’s hard to imagine doing otherwise.  

Prophetic possibilities abound in this age.  We are all caught up in that, here.  Some find that natural.  I don’t feel that I was offered the choice to do otherwise.  

No matter what we do at any moment or in any life, we all end up as one with God...... of course.



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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traducianism

"In Christian theology, traducianism is a doctrine about the origin of the soul (or synonymously, "spirit"), holding that this immaterial aspect is transmitted through natural generation along with the body, the material aspect of human beings. That is, an individual's soul is derived from the souls of the individual's parents.[1] This implies that only the soul of Adam was created directly by God (with Eve's substance, material and immaterial, being taken from out of Adam), in contrast with the idea of creationism of soul (not to be confused with creationism as a belief about the origin of the material universe), which holds that all souls are created directly by God[2] (with Eve's substance, material and immaterial, being taken from out of Adam[dubious – discuss])."

For more information:
http://www.trinityfoundation.org/PDF/The%20Trinity%20Review%200026a%20Traducianism.pdf

dd,

In the single-soul theory of the BPWH, the one cosmic soul is not created.  It emerges by logical necessity.  We are all time sharing this one soul as it recycles, in the singular cosmic, best possible world circuit.

In this sense, we are one with God, from beginning to end.  Separation is the illusion.

There are strong elements of Traducianism built in, here. It goes pretty much by logic...... by the Logos....... keeping in mind that love is end of all logic.


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Thanks Dan,

As I said, I was just curious.

In the end it doesn't really matter what where each of us differs because it is our diversity that gives us our wholeness.

We accept all as they are as an integral part of the whole.

Trust we seek and we find in the other as the other feels to be Now.

Straight on.

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One thing I was getting at is that the prophetic tradition takes the active approach while the eastern tradition takes more of a passive approach to the eschaton/disclosure/resurrection.

True Will includes and crowns both the passive and active as a flow of trust in the flowing now now now.

It is the relaxed focus of the magician, where the relaxed part is the passive trusting part, and the focus is the active participating part.

It is a frosty silence, quiet but alert.

Dan,

What is the logical necessity?

dd,

We might ask ourselves....... why is it logically necessary for there to be something rather than nothing.  

The answer is that potentiality is a necessity, just as is possibility.

Potentiality > potency > Will.......  

Where there’s a will........

The vital force of biology is logically dependent on the cosmic Will, which, of necessity, involves self identity or sapience. The chain of being is downwardly causative..... in other words..... phylogeny recapitulates the cosmic ontogeny.



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Dan,

Do you not hold to the classic Aristotlean/Scholastic definition that God is "pure actuality?"

dd,

Well, perhaps you have identified the fundamental problem of the Aristotelians.  

I know too much Quantum physics to take Actuality without a big grain of Salt.

I guess I believe that God bootstraps himself into existence by self observation...... (the best possible) Creation is just that bootstrap.  

We are the coObservers..... coCreators.  

Another way to see it is that all existence is relative or relational...... this is the philosophy of Relationalism.

God = love..... is the most relational thing we can imagine. Perhaps this is what the Aristotelians meant by pure actuality...... the ultimately Real.


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Dan,

Pure actuality is just the lack of potentiality. How does Quantum physics debunk actuality as an overall concept? Are you not falling into the very scientism you despise in making such an argument (i.e. that the observation of physical phenomenon exhausts/informs philosophical categories)? Don't take that as a jab, just an honest question...

Actual and potential imply and define each other.

You can't have one without the other.

Aaron,

For potentialities like us, yes they define each other. We are stuck as knowing subjects, between potentiality and actuality, in the process of becoming. I'm not so sure that that is necessary for that which is perfectly actualized. I don't think that which is actualized - namely God - even thinks in such categories. Aristotle described pure actuality as thought, thinking itself. Maybe that is a somewhat accurate scratching of the surface...

dd and Aaron,  

As an immaterialist/personalist, I can’t be an objectivist.  I don’t believe in an Absolute.  

All existence is relative.... is connected.  Every person is a microcosm.  This is holism.  

Actuality smacks of independent existence.  That does not cohere with the rest of the BPW system.

The concept of Actuality is an abstract extrapolation from potentiality.  

No person is an island.  We all have to hang together.  


But maybe that’s too easy.......

The BPW exists in eternity.  I can’t rightly say it is becoming anything else.  

The idea of becoming is relative to time, and time is an illusion.  

But the BPW exists only as a whole...... no part of it exists independently.  It is all relative to the One/Two.  

This is about as coherent as we can be as mortals.



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Dan,

Thus we come full circle to Trinitarianism; One can be absolute and actualized, while also being Three in eternal work - just as the Father eternally generates the Son, and Spirates the Spirit together with the Son. They eternally "hang together" in such works/relations.