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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:09 pm

First topic message reminder :

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Post by dan on Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:38 pm

Yes, that is Aliyah.

Please, excuse her bashfulness.

To these paths, it was thought, could be attributed the totality of human knowledge, as well as the totality of the aspects of the physical universe—a Renaissance prototype of a neural net. As such, the Qabalah forms a cohesive map of the human mind, and as mankind was thought to be made in God’s image, therefore infers a map of the mind of God. By the analogical thinking of operative magic, in which like is connected to like, this map could also suggest pathways by which an individual could influence anything in the universe.
Why not.......


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Madonna


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Moana

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Post by dan on Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:55 pm

Over Jackson.


And, what is that supposed to mean, Aaron?

Can you pick me up at the airport?
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Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:01 pm

What is what supposed to mean?

Pick you up?

Ha!

That's funny....just out of the blue...as if I have nothing else going on.

I have 2 1/2 hours left of work to complete 6 hours worth of work I've been slacking on today.

Hehe.

I have to get busy now, sorry.

Can't Joe and Kevin come get you?
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:06 pm

dan wrote:Yes, smelly,

All we have to do is act naturally.  That might be the hardest thing to do.

I couldn’t possibly be doing this if Foot hadn’t held my hand for 27 years. That is quite a while.

You understand that Aliyah was always in these wings...... boots on the ground........


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You led yourself Dan.

You are distracted by Foot and the princess.

Play your own game.

It will be wild and spontaneous if it’s natural.

You can hold your own hand big boy.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by desertdweller on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:07 pm

Alright, this is all I got.

Nisa means to "be trained" or "the one who is trained" or "accustomed" in Hebrew.  I recognize it is currently a Muslim term for woman, but all semitic languages are tied together - and Ron hinted to go earlier.

Aliyah, from what i see, is only related to "going up."  However, it can also mean to "ascend" "climb" "be taken up" "be exalted" "to make high."  

Normally this is associated with either 1) going up to worship/sacrifice or 2) going up to Jerusalem/Zion from exile.  

However, remember, that even the Garden of Eden was "up," or on top of a mountain.  Four rivers proceed from it, implying elevation, and Ezekiel 28:16 describes Satan's being cast from Eden as "out of the mountain of God."  

It was there that man not only had communion with God, but also with the heavenly realms, as Cherub's such as Lucifer appeared and interacted there.

This isn't lost in Second Temple Judaism, nor in the New Testament which Reforms Second Temple Judaism (in many ways) - as the "heavenly Jerusalem" is referred to as "Mount Zion" which is located "up."

"22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the [j]general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel." Heb. 12:22-24

In other words, we go back up to Zion from exile in this world, through faith in Christ, the Mediator.


So I'm guessing, based upon all the other things that have been claimed about her, Nisa Aliyah means "the one who is trained to go up into other dimensions."

There.  Took all of 10 minutes in my library.

How'd I do?
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Post by smelly on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:08 pm

Madonna et al

Idols [smiley]https://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/smiley]

Hulk smash em!!!

Now
Now
Now
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by desertdweller on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:14 pm

Smelly and Aaron, how about this...

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Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:17 pm

Dan, what's going on?

Are you really stranded at the airport?

Take a Lyft or Uber!

Silly man.

When Lou Tzu said a good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving he didn't mean it literally.
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Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:24 pm

Smelly, that smiley gif thing you keep posting doesn't work on our end...fyi. It just shows a link that resolves to a blank page.
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Post by Foot Mann on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:25 pm

DessertDweller must have an excellent library.
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Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:26 pm

Winner winner chicken dinner!
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Post by Foot Mann on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:38 pm

No animals will be killed to honor DessertDweller's library.
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Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:40 pm

Winner winner tofu dinner!
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Post by desertdweller on Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:00 pm

Foot,

I have 1-2000 volumes in my library.  I lost track.  Most of them are packed up, as I don't have room for an office anymore.

In all honestly, half of that came out of my head, the other half out of a bit of research in the old Library.

Smelly would probably say I should let it all come out of my head.  But I'm still a Realist, not a Gnostic...

Now do I believe your wife is actually Nisa Aliyah?

Can't say I believe it, I'd have to see it.

I'll stick to the book Smile


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Post by smelly on Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:12 pm

Smelly, that smiley gif thing you keep posting doesn't work on our end...fyi. It just shows a link that resolves to a blank page.

You got the message!

Now hang up the phone.
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Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:16 pm

I will say that having spent much time chatting with Aliyah, she would be the first person to really make you dig deep and ask yourself why you would ever idolize or trust any person or thing outside of your self...and further...who is your self in the first place anyway?

But don't take my word for it, ask her yourself if you feel to do so.

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Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:17 pm

smelly wrote:Smelly, that smiley gif thing you keep posting doesn't work on our end...fyi. It just shows a link that resolves to a blank page.

You got the message!

Now hang up the phone.

Ha!

What phone?
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Post by smelly on Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:24 pm

Burn your books.

If you take the ashes and apply great pressure, you will find a lovely diamond.

If you shine the light through the diamond just right, you will know everything that has been and ever could be written.

Then write a book about it.

Repeat.

When you have nothing left to write...
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Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:28 pm

Catch Up smelly goat!

You are miles behind!
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Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:54 pm

Hmm...

look at that, no response.

Not to shabby!
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Post by desertdweller on Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:16 pm

Smelly,

Isn't that the plot line to Mother!?

Come on. You can do better than that Wink
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Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:22 pm

Good observation dd! Very good.

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