Why are we here?

First topic message reminder :

(This topic is a continuation of Personalism 102).

Why is there something rather than nothing?  

Looking at it statistically, the likelihood of nothing is minuscule compared likelihood of anything.  

However, from the perspective of modern cosmology, the Anthropic Principle tells that universes with observers are extremely rare.

But, by whose say so, can an unobservable universe be said to exist?  

A related question is what constitutes an observer?

What if any role might sapience play in the act of observation?
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But this first post is a header post…….. so I will continue in the following post…….



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I risked my life to break through the illusions I was cocooned in.

I risked my sanity, my career, my love, my family.

I counted all as lost.

I cried out.

I took the ancient steps and moves that opened a door.

I walked through the door.

You have done similar.

No one will make it to Cold Mountain unless they want to.

They will have to make their own summit after they go deep into themselves.

What they find…I can’t really explain.

A lot of pain I’ll tell you that.

A lot of foolishness too.

Straight on.

Well, bunny boy…….

See……. none of you bunnies out there have done your homework .  

You know nothing of entanglement.

I thought I knew entanglement.

I knew nothing……. not until three schooled me.

And, about that schooling……

It tends to get personal.



(cont………)

And, yes, Eric, when did you last have your ears checked ?
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And here is a personal question for you, smelly……

How many time warps have you experienced?

What are we to make of the fact that chick just had his first warp?

It was pretty darn obvious, if I say so myself.



(cont……..)

Did yall finally ZAP the Old Man?

Mr J……. watch your language, elsewhere.  I can only censor your posts on my threads. My only other recourse will be banning.
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The warp referred to, above is sometimes labeled the Mandela effect.

It concerned an allegedly continuing (minor) event in the neighborhood, of which I had no recollection.  

It was a good event, imho.  This was also the case in the prototypical (eponymous?) Mandela case.

I’m just wondering if this effect could be used to fine tune our (close) encounter with the Eschaton.

It’s two timelines converging.  I’m trying to figure how this effect might be exploited for more positive outcomes…… in even more salient situations.

Where would these other (more positive) timelines be coming from….. just out of the blue?  

You tell me.  
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I once was stuck in traffic next to a truck driver who had been honking his horn.

I suggested that he could always just commit suicide.

His response……. not if it would make me happy!

I considered that to be a fair response.
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This might also relate to the case of Bibi v Yaya.

Suicide by cop?  

Eschaton, here we come!

We can be sure that there are plenty of folks just itching to play this game with nukes.  

Our very own bunny boy, in his arrogant (studied?) ignorance, might easily be construed as egging us on.

He has even said as much, himself…… Katechon v Eschaton!  

Ok, it’s Scylla v Charybdis.  

The ultimate game of chicken……. .  

And I get to be the referee…….. lucky lucky!

Talk about portals…….. talk about Mandelas.

Maybe we need a mandala……. made of sand.  

Ok, , and we’re the sand….. all 10^10 of us.  

We’re kids in a sandbox….. throwing sand at each other.  

Hey, it’s be in the sandbox….. or be square.
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As our situation becomes more unstable, more of us are just holding our breath……. while others of us, of course, are pouring on the decibels.  

Those of us who are still talking…….

This may well explain the radio silence……. south of here.



(cont……..)

Please.

Do it.

I'm done.

Reason is ONLY a servant.

If you want to sway someone, don’t talk to the rider of the elephant they can’t be convinced, speak to their intuition and sentiments and you can move millions.

Janus is not skilled in the art of rhetoric, but I am.

You must persuade by ethos, pathos, and logos.

The way one lives is a better persuader than any word.

I do wear my ignorance well.

I have been refreshing on Douglas Hofstadter.

Very good YouTube where he explains how he wrote his Pulitzer Prize winning book.

The hole in the center of math saying I cannot be proven, ha.

We are self writing poems he says.

Very poetic inspired man that Hofstadter.

What a genius.

Maybe ole Dan is a little jealous.

Janus seems like he is having his own crisis.

He desires to wake up.

When you tell others to wake up, you are obviously speaking to yourself.

I guess two faces drives one crazy.

His best life will come when he joins all his aspects together.

Dan, are you sure you aren’t having a stroke

I have had some weird time events.

Definitely some things I remember SEEM to have changed.

I can express things from my unconscious spontaneously that are related to things happening in our common awareness I was not consciously aware of.

I can do another trick and it is wonderful one, I don’t go forward or back in time, I can step out of time into a moment.

I can make that moment feel like it lasts for hours.

And if the body feels like time has stopped, then it has for that brain.

But if you do go to the future, look me up, maybe bring me back a souvenir.

I do have an evolutionary advantage over normal neurotypical muppets.

I have a hyper charged nervous system, much more mature these days than in my youth.

It is quite a good receiver and pattern recognition system.

Us improved models have to endure you muddle headed slow moving and thinking ones, HA!

The Chicken asks why we are here, leaving it to reader to accept that we are here, without so much as a hit as to where might be here. I do not accept that I am "here" although I know that it has been assigned as my task.

RealPan,

I do not believe it is helpful for you or anyone else to be participating here, on OMF, under any sort of duress.

I am going to ask your boss, Ron P, to relieve you of this obligation.  

The only possible exception to this rule is Ron, himself.

My association with Ron goes back several decades, and is convoluted, at best.  

It might behoove you to be aware of this history……. but not if it’s under duress.  

Ron claims to have taught philosophy at the agency, but he has never indicated to me that he has a personal interest in the subject.

Nor that he has a personal interest in the phenomenology problem.  

The only exception would have to do with the alleged provenance of three.  

I have not heard from two or three in over a month.

This is most unusual….. in the case of Ron.  

The previous such hiatus was for a year…… on either side of 9/11……. which circumstance I duly reported to the FBI.  

If this is supposed to be my ‘retirement’, I was not given a party .

And, as far as I’m aware, retirement was never a part of my ‘job’ description.  

My ‘job’ has to do with the Katechon-Eschaton phenomenon.

The only description of which I’m aware comes out of John 12…… the only relevant source……. of which I became aware, under unusual circumstances.  

My best known predecessor, in this regard would be Mohammed (PBUH!).  

The circumstances, in his case, were less direct, to my understanding.  

In postings on OMF, and in conversations with others, I’m described as being crazy 🤪.  

Again, to my knowledge, it is unusual for agency officers to publicly associate with the insane.

He has told me that both he and three have their own ‘teams’ that they report to, independently.  

Furthermore…… that these team members would not all be of mundane provenance.  

The communications of 2&3 with chick come under such purview.

There are various other folks who have a need to know.

…….. just in case you are wondering what ‘here’ is.  

Let it be very clear to anyone listening that my metaphysical understandings predated the above associations by well over a decade.  

I was allegedly the one to introduce Ron (RP1) to the notion of a small (geocentric) world.  

Let me refer to my current interlocutor as RP3.

Ron, then would be RP1.  

When it comes to cosmology, the (scientific) Establishment spends billions, if not trillions, of dollars on maintaining the Big World, Big Bang hypothesis.  

And, so, this (economic) fact underlies our modern definition of sanity.  

My dad taught economics…… keep in mind……. he took it very seriously!  

In about my only discussion of philosophy with him, I pulled a dollar bill from my wallet to illustrate a point.  He took great umbrage.  It was as if I had taken the Lord’s name in vain, with a Fundamentalist!

We should all be keeping in mind that, this being the only and best possible world, the whole world, and especially these Endtimes are occurring sub specie aeternitatis.  

We might well ask……… is this any way to run the Endtimes?

I have no doubt that this is the case.

Our biggest doubt would likely concern the chick .  

The biggest objection is likely to be that, if there were a God, how could any one of us possibly have the temerity to second guess such a One?

The answer is very simple……… if you and I are not just bags of chemicals, then we almost certainly partake of the…….. transcendental.  

This totally obvious possibility has been treated as way above top secret by every known civilization…… even though it may be plainly stated in their scriptures.  

So, yes, I take the Eschaton pretty seriously……. a lot more seriously, even, than my dad took the dollar bill, from my wallet.  

Will we not have fair warning?

It’s entirely possible that this blog is providing the main public and contemporary written warning.  

Yes, and it is the best possible public warning.  

How could that be?
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You merely have to understand that the best possible butterfly in Africa can merely flap its wings to trigger the best possible hurricane in Florida.



(cont………..)

You can’t teach philosophy.

You live it.

Real philosophers would have nothing consciously to do with the CIA.

Because if you live it, you wake up and end up in a garden somewhere.

What a joke.

One who is assigned tasks isn’t really an open minded person adding anything to anything.

But that’s all Dan’s drama.

I would never have anything to do with the people Dan likes to worship.

To me Dan has always been an idol worshipper.

He’s not smashed his idols…yet.

To be a free spirit is much better than working for anyone else.

Who would ever associate with boneheads from any intelligence organization?

Jason Jorjani was an easy mark and target being an influencer of right wing racist lunatics.

Let’s not talk about Epstein.

Massad played Jorjani.

These people people are muppets and fools all.

It’s entertaining to watch I’ll admit.

There is a man I admire who takes no money for what he offers online.

That’s the contract with the Muse, give it away freely.

All these influencers want is money.

So they are bought and paid for to say what the rich and powerful want.

Same for the left.

It just came out today that some big right wing influencers were paid Russian operatives.

Oh, you don’t say, haha, it’s just such a mess.

If you surround yourselves with people who make you feel warm and cozy and tell you what you want to hear, you are a muppet fool.

People are so easily misled.

Unfortunately the worst of us farm the rest.

It has always been like this.

Until we evolve, it always will be.

The right wing is now firmly a fascist pro-authoritarian bunch of thugs.

Their ilk come and go.

They burn themselves out with their hatred and bloodlust.

The light though shines forever.

This here…is beyond price.

Dan’s friends are in the shadows, not the light.

Oh they have families and reputations to protect.

Ha!

Count all as lost.

The light does not hide.

It shines.

William Blake wrote:The Divine Image
(from Songs of Innocence)

To Mercy, Pity, Peace, and Love,
All pray in their distress,
And to these virtues of delight
Return their thankfulness.

For Mercy, Pity, Peace, and Love,
Is God, our Father dear,
And Mercy, Pity, Peace, and Love,
Is man, his child and care.

For Mercy has a human heart,
Pity, a human face,
And Love, the human form divine,
And Peace, the human dress.

Then every man, of every clime,
That prays in his distress,
Prays to the human form divine:
Love, Mercy, Pity, Peace.

And all must love the human form,
In heathen, Turk, or Jew;
Where Mercy, Love, and Pity dwell,
There God is dwelling too

We can’t turn our backs on our lost brothers and sisters.

If someone whispers to you from the shadows though, I’d move on.

Don’t be a chump.

Seriously, that way there be dragons well, the dragons are all around us.

Can’t avoid them really.

Poor BBL,

It’s really tough trying to understand the world, when your starting hypothesis is that you’re the smartest one in the world.  

And you see everything in terms of black and white.  

Governments, for instance, may actually serve a multitude of purposes.  

Buddhists meditating in caves may also serve a multitude of purposes.

It’s not a requirement that either one be aware of the other.  

But awareness could never hurt…… almost by definition.  

Does BBL have awareness?  

I doubt that he would be here if he didn’t.  

And here’s the tricky part….. we would usually not even be aware of our awareness.
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Poor bunny……. he needs to be schooled in lepidopterology.

For instance, the jguy was the king of the butterflies.

And, yes, soon the world was overrun with butterflies .  

What’s going to be the next trick……. ?

How many chicks do we need?  

Only one, if it’s properly placed.

This is what personalism is all about.  

It took me only one phone call for verification.

Very efficient.  

And where would you conceal the pearl of great price?  

And she shows you where to look among the garbage and the flowers
There are heroes in the seaweed, there are children in the morning
They are leaning out for love and they will lean that way forever

Poor bunny…… he never even bothered to look .

And poor chick……. can only afford one friend.

Give me a fulcrum, and I will move the world.  

It’s that easy.
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Of course, a fulcrum will do you no good, if you have no place to stand.

My kingdom for a horse…… is another way to look at it.

Then you want to be the horse.

Is it possible that the smartest guy in the world never sat down to figure this out?

It does help to do your homework.

The pearl, however, is inside…….. amongst the garbage and the flowers .



(cont……..)

Here I stand.

If 2&3 report to different teams that would represent a house divided.

Mr J,

House divided………..?

Well, let us be clear as to which is the house in question, here.

We wouldn’t want to leave out chick , now would we?

Until rather recently, chick considered himself to be practically a member of self-same household……… up until my goddaughter started some serious pushback.  

So, to be informed that my split might not be the only one…… maybe it fit a pattern.  

My recent northerly excursion concerned a rendezvous.  

And this event was particularly focused on three.  

Unfortunately, I’ve already forgotten the term being used to describe her peeps.  

It might have just been her ‘elders’.  

Ron has never put forward a term to describe his team.  

As to myself…….. I once thought I might have a team, being the sot.

But, more recently, I’d been hopeful about 2&3.  

Now, it appears that ftgm is the only one still speaking to chick.  

It may be possible that he will be able to run some interference, but that remains speculative 🤨.  

That was the only team of which I have been aware.  

Beyond that, we do have our angels , for better and worse.  

Sometimes, we forget to pray for them.  
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Apropos of almost nothing……… the following column appears in today’s Times……. Tucker Carlson and the Heterodoxy-to-Holocaust Denial Pipeline…….. not terribly noteworthy, but with one allusion……

Candace Owens, another anti-woke right-wing celebrity who has lately become Hitler-curious, has also come to question received wisdom about the shape of the earth. “I’m not a flat-earther,” she said in July. “I’m not a round-earther. Actually, what I am is I am somebody who has left the cult of science.”

Technically, chick qualifies as hollow-earther…….. and, yes, I have left the cult of science.  

It’s true, historically, that the Nazi Party was spun off by the Thule Society……. much into hollow Earth occultism.  

Admiral Byrd did run into ShangriLa…….. flying over the South Pole.

I have followed my goddaughter to various portal destinations…… at the ends of the Earth.  

And, finally, in embracing the BPWH……. I do, by default, have to apologize for Adolph.  

But, here is the kicker……… would a personalist not qualify as an occultist, under these guidelines?

Would a person who does not subscribe to artificial general intelligence (AGI) qualify as an occultist?



(cont……..)

We are hoops within hoops.

Traveling the circle : together.

I meet all as friend.

Black Elk knew we were strange loops way before Western minds did.

He didn’t have to do any math to know life and the world is a circle in a circle.

The wisdom of the world is foolishness.

Difference between Dan and I, I don’t follow.

My pearl was always right where I was.

I doubt he has any idea what I mean always leaving it to find it.

What a fool he is chasing his tail.

Keep at it chucky.

I think you will catch your tail eventually.

We can wait.

And yes, I’m smarter than all of you combined.

A burden I bear best I can.

Eat my goat shorts 🩳

Hey, goats don’t wear shorts!

And I’m not a goat I’m a bunny

Jesus, how many of us are crammed in here?!

Anyway, I had a nice chat with a funny Indian this morning, in the way shamans chat.

We show each other pictures.

It’s kind of cool.

Did you know you can talk to dead people from across time?

They are just right there like stars waiting to blow your mind open a little bit further.

Plotinus and Goethe have been really bugging me for more garden time.

Believe me, Dan’s friends would kill for my view.

The living breathing Tarot.

Here is where the worlds meet.

Here now we touch the face of Eternity.

Saw Doug Auld on Grant Cameron.

Oh boy.

They wrote a book about children’s fantasies.

Sweet little muppets.

Woo woo central.

Each of us has a web of conscious experience.

Look at the books and media one consumes and interacts with, the art they create, the ideas they express, the people they interact with, and you could get a rough map of someone’s consciousness.

Ironically, the software they use to create offensive military weapons, see Palantir, can be used to get a picture of someone’s consciousness.

Look at the stories people tell each other.

If I was an academic I’d study this.

I feel the UFO phenomena is not at all about lights in the sky.

Focusing on the physical experiences is just the smallest tip of what is happening.

This is a mental phenomena, not just physical.

Do they have ships and bodies?

No idea.

Sure, it would be good to know one way or the other.

I would guess if so, they are not normal material objects, but some kind of mind stuff.

In the mental arena humans are yet small little children.

The only thing I really connected in Doug’s talk is that he had been depressed and then this phenomena helped him out of this state some how.

He was personal!

I give him kudos and respect for sharing this.

We should look much deeper into the mental states of pre and post experience.

Now, I am a psychonaught.

I explore consciousness too, from the inside out, but I’m just looking for the best basic operating system for living.

I’m not looking for eternal life, haha.

I don’t fear death.

This was the big result of my conscious exploration of my strange loop.

I look forward to the peaceful sleep.

Self disclosure is where this leads I feel.

What we find outside of us is nothing compared to what we can find inside.

BBL,

It’s very clear that you don’t subscribe to scientific materialism.  

I don’t either.  

By participating on this website you lend it your support.  

Your frequent criticism of my association with 2&3, provides it with additional credence.  

Where you draw the line is in regard to the Eschaton.  

Well, you criticize any sort of eschatology…….. but only indirectly.

You criticize any sort of Narrative….. and particularly any Narrative associated with the prophetic tradition.  

I’m not entirely sure what your stance is relative to secular humanism.  

You are opposed to the use of any labels, whatsoever.

You have made clear your understanding that a nuclear apocalypse may be inevitable…….. but also that you are not going to exert yourself toward any preventive measures.  

I come to a similar conclusion, but from the opposite direction.

This world is fated to be the best possible one, and that possibility would not include a nuclear Armageddon.

What I do promote is the Mother of all paradigm shifts (MoAPS).  

This eventuality would easily fit into most prophetic Narratives.

But, by the same token, the MoAPS is coming, regardless of our expectations or intentions…….. whatever will be, will be!  

Nonetheless, I believe that many of us are being bent out of shape by our pessimism.

But a bigger concern is the secular humanist, modernist dictum that we, humans are here by accident……. that life is an absurdity, in a meaningless universe.  

I also believe that our every thought serves the larger purpose of our existence.  

Every action…… every thought… has its time and place.  

Doesn’t such a belief militate against motivation?  

Every motivation has also been prescribed.

That leaves us as witnesses to the greatest show…….

May we not awake from our dreamlike condition?  

Where is our so-called….. much ballyhooed… freedom?  

We may still have the freedom to prefer chocolate to vanilla.  

But the guard rails on our individual and collective existences would have to be rather narrow……. if, indeed, ours is to be the best possible world.  

What, then, are we to make of good v evil….. and what are we to do about it?  

That may be precisely why modernism maintains such a strong grip on the world.  

Even, now, can we really bear the Truth?  

The best we can do is participate in the conspiracy of our better angels.  

Is that too limiting of our godlike powers?  

How is such participation determined or decided?  

Such determination would be sub specie aeternitatis.  

I think that Eric and I agree on that.

Here, now, we touch the face of Eternity!

How else could it be?

How could it be any better?

Thankfully, we are kept in the dark as to which precise actions are of cosmic import.

How could we get out of bed , otherwise?

But, I believe that none of us can be entirely innocent of such suspicion…….. !

We know precisely what we need to know….. when we need to know it.



(cont………)

Difficult times. Dispense with rhymes. The Bunny eats the Limes. Chicken walks. Princess talks. From above there are watchful hawks.

Hmmm, it appears that RP3 might have some inside information.

Like what?

Well, Mr J,

It could be something like……. all of us will know precisely what we need to know, precisely when we need to know it.

I also recommend the Grant, Doug and Emira(?) segment.

So like never.

You're in your 80s.

Give it up.

Why do you do this day after day?

No one trusts you anymore.

No one believes you.

No one that matters.

Why can't you just spend time with your children and grandchildren?

Most of the people in this world will never have that privilege and you spend your time talking about the BPWH all day, every day.

Forever and ever....

Yes, Mr J, and can you possibly imagine that chick may, on occasion, entertain some very similar questions.  

All of our questions will be answered precisely when they need to be answered.

Well, yes, I do labor under that impression….. sub specie aeternitatis.

And, yes, there is a level on which I reason why…… and there is another level on which I’m smart enough not to.  

And, yes, again, I do have a reputation for being a persistent little son of gun.

Just ask BBL.

And let us not forget that my grandmother was referred to as a busy body……. by the mayor of Chicago.  

And all of the above comes very naturally when you come to accept the Quaker belief that there must be that of God in each and every one of us.

In that sense, I’m a naturalist.

This belief is also known as pantheism……. all of us being descended from the original Quantum Observer.  

And, when three of us are gathered together in her name, she will be there also.

And, whenever three of us are gathered together in the name of Truth, the Truth shall be there, also, in spirit……. at the very least!  

And let’s not forget that, especially, when it comes to the Truth, we have all the time in the world……. sub specie aeternitatis!
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And do keep in mind that, if there turns out to be one unnatural thing in the world, then there is probably nothing in the world that is natural.  

In other words, if there is one thing in the world that has meaning or a purpose, then everything else is likewise.  

How so?  

Simply because everything is related to everything else.  

Every atom is related to every other atom.  

That’s what I was taught in science.  

And that is probably what you were taught, as well, if you were taught any science.

So there!  

We could just as well say that everything is entangled with everything else.  

How are things entangled?  

They are entangled every way till Sunday.  

Wigner has pointed to our unreasonable entanglement with mathematics.  

And what is natural about mathematics?

I ask you…….

Ecology is all about entanglement.  

And what is natural about ecology?

What is natural about life?  

I thought that life was supposed to be an absurdity.  

Is there anything natural about absurdity?  

It looks like it might be about time to do a little rethinking!

Maybe we should ask Mr J and Big Bunny what they think about this situation……. what do they think about our situation?!

When three of us come together……..!



(cont………)

They say I am new .. But I wear an old shoe .. I must walk in the path of others.
My time is short .. I have never entered the court .. Yet I must defend the fort.
The Chicken is old .. yet he remains rather bold .. His foot planted firmly in hold.

Very good post above Dan in response to my last post.

I have the most inside information there is.

If Janus had half a clue he wouldn’t look to others for answers.

I just read a new book on the last hour of mankind ended by nuclear holocaust.

Fun read.

It’s pretty god damned awful.

I wouldn’t want to survive it.

I swear I’m not trying to frustrate anything, as if I could.

I’m just a loving little bunny amongst monsters

But God/Nature likes to use the small things to the world to make big changes.

If anything I am being really true to what I am.

I stripped it all away and I found joy.

And no one can take that away.

I feel to be this here, until I am shut out I guess.

Call it nature, my Daimon, my soul, or something we have no name for.

Some of us are out here with no script, on the edge.

I’m not a nihilist in the least.

I’m somewhere between Hermeticism and Neoplatonism I guess.

I mean I saw way too much.

I can’t really run away from it.

So here I stand.

My posts have been written to God or Nature or whomever might come this way.

My words infect them.

I know they do.

Some mystical shit has gone down.

But I am calm, clear, and ready to act when needed.

I wouldn’t drive away from the mushroom cloud, I’d drive toward it.

Honestly, just like no one is entirely one thing or other, neither am I or you.

Where I cannot know if your reported journeys be true, I responded with my own.

It’s the most authentic thing I could do.

People don’t like us hyper-energized Autistic types.

We creep the muppets out.

Trust is very hard to come by these days.

Many are exposing their nasty sides.

That’s how they have chosen to react to this time.

I am not taking that route.

I have no name for what this is.

No properties.

Try to imagine it, you can’t.

We don’t know ourselves.

I guess what I am pushing is what Socrates and all of them did, and Jesus himself, know thyself.

Especially if the curtain is closing.

I know it matters.

Time is short.

Even as the walls come down.

I am a witness and participant, another perspective from the people.

Well, I’m not just a witness, I’m also a correspondent.

We are all doing the best we can.

I suppose I feel, I know, it’s time to toss the books and prophecies out.

Throw out the confusion.

Clear the head.

If you can, walk beyond all traditions toward where they all point.

Make for the central mountain.

When I was ready, I did.

Did I have a choice, do any of us ultimately?

Maybe, but not how we normally think.

You need nothing to mediate your approach to yourself.

It’s a real reset.

Whatever happens happens, be ready is the best you can do.

Go with the flow.

Muppets tend to exaggerate and anthropomorphize.

They tend to get lost in delusion like Janus.

What do you expect with two faces.

As you were.

Relax.

Take a long bath maybe.

All good here.

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Don’t take Janus too seriously, he’s kind of playing a part.

Kind of his joke being a Janus I guess.

Anyway, I was reading “All Thing Are Full of Gods.”

He lays things out very nicely for a hylozoic view of life.

The hylozoism of the pre-Socratic philosophers such as Thales and Heraclitus influenced later Greek philosophers such as Plato, Aristotle, and the Stoics.

This is not quite Pantheism.

Everything is infused with aliveness is the easiest way to say it.

There is no matter or spirt, it’s just a matter of frequency and vibration some have supposed.

I suppose I’m in the camp with you.

Stafford Beer wrote:"Nature does not need to make any detours; it does not just exceed our computational abilities, in effect it surpasses them in unimaginable ways. In a poem on the Irish Sea, Beer talks about nature as exceeding our capacities in way that we can only wonder at, ‘shocked’ and ‘dumbfounded.’"

Beer has been described as a failure, ending his life as a mystic poet.

Stafford Beer wrote:Computers, the Irish Sea

That green computer sea with all its molecular logic to the system's square inch, a bigger brain than mine, writes out foamy equations from the bow across the bland blackboard water.

Accounting for variables which navigators cannot even list,
a bigger sum than theirs, getting the answer continuously right without fail and without anguish integrals white on green.

Cursively writes recursively computes that green computer sea on a scale so shocking that all the people sit dumbfounded throwing indigestible peel at seagulls not uttering an equation between them.

All this liquid diophantine stuff of order umpteen million is its own analogue. Take a turn around the deck and understand the mystery by which what happens writes out its explanation as it goes.

Shocked and dumbfounded about sums it up I think.

We are in kook territory.

Give me the kooks any day over the current order.

Beer predicted what the internet has become.

He wanted it to be a liberty and freedom machine, but instead it’s an anxiety machine.

Well, it’s a freedom machine too, if you use it right.

Objects attract our attention.

Sensuous experience works on us like a spell.