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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Admin Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:29 pm

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    Hi ScarZ,

    Thank you for posting this information. Does any of David Flynn's material give any idea to the time-frames for the early events or historical figures that his research indicated?


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    Post by ScaRZ Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:35 am

    For some strange reason this morning the "Quote" isn't working correctly for me. When I try to quote I can't reply below the members quote. I can only type within the members quote. It wasn't like this before this morning.
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    Post by Jake Reason Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:06 am

    ScaRZ wrote:For some strange reason this morning the "Quote" isn't working correctly for me. When I try to quote I can't reply below the members quote. I can only type within the members quote. It wasn't like this before this morning.

    Jake says - Yes, I see what you mean, ScaRZ.  I can't get my cursor out of this box.

    Forumotion does say the upgrade is still in Beta-Test.  And so I presume they are making some changes at this moment, causing a loss in functionality.
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    Post by Jake Reason Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:11 am

    ScaRZ wrote:For some strange reason this morning the "Quote" isn't working correctly for me. When I try to quote I can't reply below the members quote. I can only type within the members quote. It wasn't like this before this morning.

    I'm trying this post manually.  I capatured your post via - click, swipe, copy.  Then opened a post box (selected "post reply" on forum) and pasted it into the box.

    Then added (quote="ScaRZ")  at the beginning
    and (/quote)  at the end
    using these [ ]

    edit:  it works!
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    Post by Admin Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:42 am

    Jake Reason wrote:
    ScaRZ wrote:For some strange reason this morning the "Quote" isn't working correctly for me. When I try to quote I can't reply below the members quote. I can only type within the members quote. It wasn't like this before this morning.


    I'm trying this post manually.  I capatured your post via - click, swipe, copy.  Then opened a post box (selected "post reply" on forum) and pasted it into the box.

    Then added (quote="ScaRZ")  at the beginning
    and (/quote)  at the end
    using these [ ]

    edit:  it works!


    I was able to swipe, copy what I planned to quote above.  Then I went to the Quick Reply box and hit Return several times.  Then I pasted what I planned to quote in one of the upper lines and highlighted it then hit the quote button.  Then I was able to go below the quote box to one of the lower lines and type all this.

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    Post by Admin Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:02 am

    Back to the subject you were discussing:  

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    and Quayle has just posted what sounds like some sort of emergency note about Hagmann..


    Quayle wrote:EMERGENCY PRAYER REQUEST FOR DOUG HAGMANNN-LIFE IS IN SEVERE DANGER
    DOUG WAS ALMOST KILLED THIS MORNING UNDER THE GOON SQUAD--HE NEEDS DIVINE INTERVENTION AND PROTECTION IMMEDIATELY AND PRAY FOR GODS SUPERNATURAL DELIVERANCE IN HIS LIFE-I CAN NOT TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT YOUR PRAYERS ARE AT THIS TIME-W-AND ROSEBUD HEADS UP!
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    I'm not sure what's transpired his latest post on his site doesn't specify:  http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/8638#more-8638


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    Post by ScaRZ Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:21 pm

    I hope they get the bugs worked out soon.

    @Cy

    I haven't been keeping up with Steve Quayle's site for a long time. It got to the point of him having some kind of red alert very often.
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    Post by Admin Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:49 pm

    yes I agree with you...I hope they get it fixed soon too.  I too noticed the quote button not working properly this morning.  It was fine yesterday. 


    ScaRZ wrote:I hope they get the bugs worked out soon.

    @Cy

    I haven't been keeping up with Steve Quayle's site for a long time. It got to the point of him having some kind of red alert very often.

    Quayle is one of about a dozen sites I check regularly to see what's posted.  He has developed over the years a nice network of people who contribute via emails to him and is fairly comprehensive in the selection of news he posts daily.  He occasionally hits the bullseye like when he called the entire CT community to arms over the Merc invasion of Hardin MT a few years ago.  The rest is hard to impossible to confirm.  Some of it is perceptions of those who follow the paradigm in pretty much the same manner and have their own interpretations.  

    Yes I know what you mean about the red alert thing.  But this is a consequence of boiling frog syndrome and an old game the players who do the stuff continually being reported on have engaged in.  They do just enough to run the edge of freak to wind everyone up and then back off just enough to make those reporting look foolish...then they come back a couple days later and do it again but just an inch or two further.  The amount of activity being tracked has increased exponentially over the last five years.  Even I have a hard time keeping up with all the events and activities across the board now.  And if you went back 10 - 15 years in perception, you'd consider virtually everything happening today a "red alert" too.  It's a hard call what to yell foul over these days when it all stinks to high heaven.  I'm not in his business so I try not to be judgmental on that count.  

    My biggest complaint with him is so many of the reports he relays to the public don't have all the points a typical SitRep should cover.  Many in the shield wall have criticized him over that.  But one also has to look at it from the stand point of much of the data is supplied to him through his network and they are civilians who are relating personal experiences and in that context not in the context that's necessary for a professional followup to occur.  Yes it complicates things to a degree...but what if we never heard these personal accounts and they are real?  Would we rebuff them just because not all the slots in a sitrep report are filled with something?  Again tough call.  

    This is the muddy water of the paradigm.  Trying to discern what is real, what is half-right, what is misrepresented, what is thoroughly mistaken, and what is real disinfo.  Imagine being a analyst in the naval 10th fleet and having to do this when having arrived on the scene late in the game?  You see data dumps like Quayles, Stan Deyo, Blacklisted News, Public Intelligence, and so many others on and on endlessly with all the screaming voices and the stories they tell sound like something out of a Orson Wells book.  Fantastic and horrific in their implications.  Worse than the American Civil War where members of the same family fought on either side of the conflict and it was hard to tell who was friend and who was foe.  

    Do you really believe all this?  Asks a mainstreamer with legal authority.  It's really beyond being believable you know.  

    I know says I, but I'll tell you it's worse.  Watch your back man...you're in it thicker than I.

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    Admin wrote:


    This is the muddy water of the paradigm.  Trying to discern what is real, what is half-right, what is misrepresented, what is thoroughly mistaken, and what is real disinfo. 


    Yes and this is why the majority of people turn a blind eye and deaf ear. Of coarse this is exactly what they are banking on will occur. 

    Most people have no interest in things that ruin their day. This is the ultimate reason people are very easy to control. Entertainment is one of the greatest tools used to drug the population. Humans are entertainment junkies that constantly crave a fix. 




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    Post by ScaRZ Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:50 am

    Hagmann unhurt after law enforcement incident

    http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=427

    Earlier today, a report was posted that Doug Hagmann, host of The Hagmann & Hagmann Report was involved in an altercation with armed authorities while driving on a city street early this morning. As reported, he suddenly and inexplicably found himself surrounded by police SUV vehicles and a cadre of police officers treating him as if he was a terrorist threat. That incident was indeed accurate as initially reported, but was temporarily removed at his request until further details could be provided. After obtaining additional details of the incident, it was determined that this incident was not directly related to the journalistic work he has been performing, or the active NSA surveillance he has experienced. Investigation ultimately determined that the incident originated from a false complaint filed with a law enforcement agency by an individual familiar with Doug Hagmann’s work and positive reputation. It was an attempt, in part, to harm his reputation as well as take him away from his investigative work.

    Following some tense moments, the incident involving Doug Hagmann has been cleared and he escaped from this drama unhurt. Nonetheless, some very sensitive issues related to this incident are currently in play and have yet to be fully resolved. Accordingly, Doug Hagmann asked that any further release of information be limited until these issues can be resolved for the safety and security of him and his family. Doug Hagmann expects to be able to talk more freely about the matter on our special Sunday program on The Hagmann & Hagmann Report at 9:00 p.m.

    Update: Make no mistake that there is a legitimate threat to whistle blowers and others who dare expose the truth, although in this case, the police acted properly based on the best information they had in their possession at the time, although the information with which they were provided was proven to be false and maliciously reported, according to Hagmann. “It’s a very convoluted situation,” stated Hagmann, adding that there is more to this story than can be responsibly reported at this time.” Hagmann added: “I would like to thank you and everyone involved in praying for my safety and the safety of my family. It is my belief that it was prayer and the hand of God that diffused a situation that could have turned out much, much worse. I am glad to be back in the safety of my own home, and cannot begin to express just how much of a role prayer and Godliness will play in the things we are about to experience on a larger scale. May God bless you and everyone for their thoughts and prayers.”
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    Post by Admin Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:08 pm

    well good news in that respect at least.


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    Post by ScaRZ Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:02 am

    I detest all the "Ebay" links that are highlighted in our post.
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    Post by Jake Reason Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:43 am

    ScaRZ wrote:I detest all the "Ebay" links that are highlighted in our post.

    I know what you are talking about, as I see highlighted links in some websites.  Whereas some sites have dozens of words and phrases highlighted and they turn out to be Google searches.
     
    But ScaRZ, I don't see any such links (Google/EBay or other) being highlighted on this forum.

    May I suggest that you might have an EBay browser infection, or an EBay toolbar or Add-on, that was inadvertently installed (or 'enabled') in your browser.

    Check your "Manage Add-ons" in your browser.  Something might be there.  And run an Anti-Spyware scan. 

    Let us know


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    Post by Admin Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:50 pm

    I don't see any of those links either ScaRZ.  Jake is probably correct.


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    Post by ScaRZ Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:52 am

    @ Jake and Cy

    The problem is "VigLink". It's got to be this site allowing the program. The forum has got to be going with this program to get paid. I can go to any of the other forums or blogs I visit and it doesn't occur. I've noticed this morning if I login I don't see the highlighted links but if I don't login they are there. 

    Here is a link to VigLink and you will understand what the program does.

    http://www.viglink.com/?gclid=CK-3goSb67cCFWFp7AodkQwAKQ
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    Post by Jake Reason Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:15 am

    Oh, "api-viglink".  Ya this thing followed me around a year ago.  Virtually everywhere I went on line, my url would flash in a split second from the target url to api-viglink, then back to the target site I wanted to go to.  Thus giving api-viglink a "hit".

    I looked it up as you have ScaRZ, learned what it was, and how to block it.  You could have got it anywhere.  I tried to remove it, but antispyware and antimalware programs Do Not recognize api-viglink as a threat. 

    In my Firewall, I added it into my "site blocking list".  api-viglink

    That did it, I've never seen it since.

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    edit: re post explanation below.  Changing . (dot) to - (dash), so that my firewall doesn't block me from this thread.  But make sure when you add -viglink to your "blocked sites"  preference by api.



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    Post by Jake Reason Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:25 am

    LOL since I posted the above, I can't access this thread as my firewall is blocking it because I wrote the exact api.---- name in my post. 

    I've had to close my firewall to write this post.

    So I'm going to edit my post above to api-viglink.

    But know the - (dash) is supposed to be a . (dot)
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    Post by ScaRZ Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:33 pm

    Alright I finally found out how to disable it.

    http://www.viglink.com/opt-out


    Okay,if you clear your cookies it's right back. You've got to keep going back to the site and "Opt-out".


    The answer is, you can't get rid of it because it isn't on your system. It's a kickback service for this forum.
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    Post by Jake Reason Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:17 pm

    Right ScaRZ, you can't opt-out unless you keep your cookies and allow them to be in continual contact with the net.  The opt-out option is a ruse.

    And I don't doubt this forum has it, as thousands of websites accept vig-link for the extra pennies they might get.

    The only way I know, is to have your Firewall block it.  Check your Firewall Help on how to block sites.  And remember the site name to block is  api(dot)viglink
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    Post by ScaRZ Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:54 pm

    Thank you Jake.Cool
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    Post by Jake Reason Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:09 pm

    You're welcome, I hope you can fix it.

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    I re-read Revelations today, for the umpteenth time.  From chapters 9 to 20.  With the intent of trying to conceptualize a reckoning for the obscure prophecy of a "Little Season" at the end of the millennium, where the dragon/devil/Satan is released from the bottomless pit, after being chained for a thousand years.

    As you know, this prophecy is a mirror image of the assembling of the nations for Armageddon at the end of this age.  Which is traditionally interpreted to be a pre-millennium/pre-Christ return event.

    I think I figured it out.  It looks like the Revelation script embeds in itself the correct interpretation of this obscure 'little season'.

    I need more study time before I could articulate a theological dialog to explain this.  Although at this point, it looks clear.

    Interpreting through the lens of "prophetic linear time sequence" appears to be the misadventure causing us confusion.

    Either way, we will need to review our theological prophetic interpretations concerning these three paradigm views;

    Premillennialism  -  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premillennialism
    Amillennialism  -  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amillennialism
    Postmillennialism  -  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmillennialism

    These definitions made need updated revisions as well.



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    Oh and as a side issue while I was doing my study.....It is very compelling that the author of The Book of Revelation (John of Patmos, the oldest surviving Apostle) will be one of the "Two Witnesses".

    I'm guessing this might manifest like as Y'shua/Jesus confirmed to his elect..... that "John the Baptist" was the spirit of Elijah returned.  A Major Prophet who had previously lived 800 years before the Baptist.



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    Post by ScaRZ Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:33 pm

    @Jake 

    I'm pretty sure I know where you're going with this. I've read and listened to a few others that go that route. 

    Some people believe the Gog-Magog battle of Ezekiel 38 is the same battle written about in [Revelation 20:8]........"And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."




    I find the Little Season of Satan a very interesting study. Most pastors and Bible teachers shy away from that area.
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    Post by Admin Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:24 pm

    Jake Reason wrote:Right ScaRZ, you can't opt-out unless you keep your cookies and allow them to be in continual contact with the net.  The opt-out option is a ruse.

    And I don't doubt this forum has it, as thousands of websites accept vig-link for the extra pennies they might get.

    The only way I know, is to have your Firewall block it.  Check your Firewall Help on how to block sites.  And remember the site name to block is  api(dot)viglink

    I wonder why I'm not encountering it. Cy


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    Post by Jake Reason Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:54 pm

    Admin wrote:I wonder why I'm not encountering it. Cy
    I think one catches it by clicking on one of the banner ads.  My guess.
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    Post by Jake Reason Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:08 pm

    ScaRZ wrote:Some people believe the Gog-Magog battle of Ezekiel 38 is the same battle written about in [Revelation 20]........"And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."
    I think there is a preteristic dual prophecy overlap.  Mirroring the times of;

    - the "War of the Jews", destruction of the Temple and Caesar's bloody Christian persecutions.

    - the Armageddon war just prior to The Return.

    One portion took place during the age of the Mediterranean known World, the other takes place during this later age of the Globally known World.

    The questions I am asking now are:
    Was Satan already imprisoned in the bottomless pit?
    Has he been released, and if so when?


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    Post by ScaRZ Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:39 am

    Admin wrote:

    I wonder why I'm not encountering it.  Cy


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    If I log in I don't see any of the highlighted links to click on. It's only when I just drop in to read and don't.

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