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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:28 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the topic reminder post for Personalism 101.

    A good place to start is right here……. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/personalism/

    My contention is that the BPWH = Personalism.

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    Post by dan Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:59 am

    I like it,,''¡,,'

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    Post by dan Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:06 am

    I’m. Try ink to Eritrean wrote mulktiple exclamation point he with my new tipewriter in miy
    Knew operating system.
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    Post by dan Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:12 am

    We now have 14 users online……..

    Presumably from around the WORLD ''''..)))))))))))))).,,,,,,'….,.
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    Post by dan Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:17 am

    We may INTUITT. That I’m trying to express my elation at rediscover the fountain YOUTH )))))))((())(((((((((( YEAH ()/;,.””’ookjhhnnnn,,,…..%%%%———%%%%
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:55 am

    That was fun times U.

    Dan, WTF are you talking about?

    Yuh are breakin my heart dude.

    OMF is strangely one of the least traveled parts of the Interwebs.

    That’s why I love it.

    No offense Cy.

    I think Dan is approaching the omega point.

    The fountain ⛲ makes sense.



    Isaiah 6:9

    “He said, “Go and tell this people:
    “ ‘Be ever hearing, but never understanding;
    be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’”
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:16 am

    I must say one of the greatest things I have done in my life is write ✍

    Your writing and journaling becomes like a mirror.

    You can see what is underwater.

    You need to meet and befriend your unconscious.

    Writing is magickal.

    If you aren’t a writer, write.

    It’s not for others.

    Things will come out you weren’t aware of.

    Increase your life force to find what you are passionate about.

    Your passion is your gift.

    If you give it away, it will grow.

    When one is depressed or feels off kilter, work on the body, your relationship with others, and yourself.

    Creating in the face of adversity is the greatest act for a human being.

    Invite someone to lunch or speak with someone maybe who isn’t that interesting to you or seems to have nothing to offer you.

    They represent all of mankind.

    You will be better and get something from it.

    To hold yourself back from others is a sign of pain and fear.

    Arrogance is based on our inability to control things.

    So we overcompensate.

    One of the best things you can do for yourself is eat well, exercise, and sleep.

    Those 3 things are enough to balance most of the imbalances.

    Your body knows what to do.

    You hear me Dan?

    Take care of yourself.

    Find and follow your passion.

    Your writing is for you.

    You were showing yourself your self.

    Even now, your crayon writing is for you.

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:46 am

    Scrambled Eggs I love you

    I’m glad your having fun playing Benjamin Button at least 🫶😄

    You might be able to trade in your Barfield books for Dr. Seuss ones now

    Weird ass times

    Persons are so transient

    Helps one appreciate ‘em even more



    Do try and eat healthy at the hospital

    Apples are always good if you can get them there
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    Post by GSB Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:08 am

    Dan we are wishing you the best possible recovery!

    Sabine on Personalism 101 and Quantum Observers



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:07 pm

    Ack, haha.

    Have to keep our sense of humor in tact.

    That’s how we get through the hard times best.

    And GSB giving Dan some BPW love.

    I love Sabine.

    She is no bullshitz.

    I watched that one this week.

    I don’t think the wave 🌊 function is real.

    I’ve read some physicists saying we just don’t understand something fundamental.

    But that double slit experiment is wacky!

    I certainly will never accept any scientist’s final take on consciousness.

    They only measure things.

    They are stuck.

    They can say nothing about consciousness.

    “All interpretations of quantum physics have problems.”

    No one understands consciousness, but to me, what they can’t understand is most interesting.

    How much amazing weird stuff do they just say, keep moving, no comment.

    She didn’t really answer anything, she just pointed out we can’t really know.

    I think David Bohm’s pilot wave theory is the best interpretation and most natural.



    For our next OMF miracle, Ron and Smelly will pose for Holiday pictures….

    Naaaaaaaa

    There isn’t that much love in the world…yet.



    In other weird news…

    As I have been wading deeper into the Disclosure world, been finding some strange things.

    They watch every signal, SIGINT.

    It is humorous to me, all OMF is analyzed with everything else.

    I purposely write some things to stick in their throat.

    They have infiltrated online games now.

    The intelligence community is one scary group of control freaks.

    They aren’t really scary.

    They can’t touch this.

    They can only watch.

    They are literally monitoring chats in online games.

    Yes, humans are clever and if they find a way.

    So they start to push propaganda in online games.

    Are the criminals or govt types worse than each other?

    Nope.

    They can’t push propaganda on OMF, I stopped them.

    They can never get past someone like me.

    I am totally beyond, above, and below their silly system of control.

    I choose to participate in their sham world.

    There are a lot of uncontrollable ones like myself waking up.

    We will sew chaos into their system.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:30 pm

    Einstein never accepted the Copenhagen interpretation, but the math works.

    I think it works because things are predetermined.

    That’s a fascinating possibility.

    Some philosophers are pushing hard not to discount their work and just focus on the numbers.

    I think the age of shut up and calculate is done.

    “‘Normal’ determinism — or at least, the way that people normally approach the notion of determinism — in the face of apparently random events is the position that the randomness is due to uncontrolled variables in the influences on the apparently random system, which you are not taking into account. A good example would be the brownian motion of grains of pollen: it's random motion is due not so much to an inherent randomness of the motion of the pollen, as unaccounted-for-impacts on the pollen by molecules. (Notwithstanding the fact that the motion of those molecules is ultimately quantum-mechanical, of course.)

    "Super-determinism" is the position that the apparently random behaviour of quantum mechanical systems, following the Born rule, is due to the fact that our own choices of experiments to perform are finely tuned in correlation with the systems we measure, to give rise to these statistics. Not only is our behaviour determined, but it is determined in such a way as to limit what we can see, and specifically to fool us into seeing random behaviour according to a stable statistical rule when the behaviour is in fact perfectly predictable in principle.

    So super-determinism is indeed a variety of determinism: but it turns our usual assumptions about apparent randomness on its head — not only is our behaviour determined, but it is determined precisely in such a way as to prevent us from seeing that the world is deterministic.“

    Sabine has some vids on determinism explaining non-local observations.

    QBism is interesting and maybe a form of participatory realism.

    I feel this is in the right direction.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Bayesianism
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:13 pm

    It’s strange to me that what we are writing may be far behind Dan’s capability to follow now.

    It just breaks the heart.

    But Ack may be onto something with Dr. Suess, maybe becoming as a child, not a paranoid one, is the best of all possible outcomes.

    Dan is probably closer to reality now than we are.

    If so, I think peace will be the evidence.
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    Post by 99 Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:06 am

    Here's an excerpt from, Dr. Daniel Smith's NYT's obit:

    Professor Smith is survived by his wife, Martha, of Portola Valley, Calif.; two daughters, Debra Leighton of Concord, Mass., and Louise Smith Bowman of Livingston, Mont.; a son, Dan Throop Smith Jr., of Towson, Md., and two grandchildren.

    Dan Throop jr isn't even as old as President Biden who will be re-elected, if he decides to run again, in the upcoming election. Most likely, he will run again.

    Anyway, Dan will be back here again and even though he's still recovering from surgery, we'll be happy to hear from him.

    As he hasn't posted in the last couple of days, I'm assuming that the staff at the hospital is keeping a close eye on him.

    So please... members of this forum should refrain from making any statements that may rattle Dan's very fragile nerves now.

    Give Dan the respect that he deserves no matter what he says and no matter if you agree with him or not.

    I'm confident that after the dust settle's a bit, we'll get some of the old Dan back ... however long that takes.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:41 am

    Nobody is talking about Dan disrespectfully or upsetting him.

    And some of us are entangled with him and supporting him best we can.

    Get well soon Scrambled Eggs!

    We miss ya.
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    Post by 99 Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:32 am

    Just thought I would mention that... I have my reasons for doing so.

    Anyway, am making Pumpkin Tiramisu for T.G. I've never made it before but hopes it turns out right. lol

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:58 am

    Yum!

    Happy Thanksgiving to all.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:37 pm

    Sending these to Dan daily.

    Cervantes has some juicy quotes.

    Today’s meditation…

    “Honor and virtue are ornaments of the soul, without which the body, though it be really beautiful, ought not to be thought so.”

    —Cervantes

    The body is just a vehicle.

    It breaks down.

    But your virtue is what truly carries you forward.

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    Post by U Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:37 pm

    I'm sorry but who's obituary is that?

    If it's not our Dan, is it a relative of his?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:50 pm

    Maybe it’s yours Wink

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    Post by U Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:00 pm

    One can only hope.

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    Post by U Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:03 pm

    You shouldn't be sneaky, child.

    It's unbecoming of You.

    It's easy for the dug in tech genius 50 year old.

    How bout the other guy?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:22 pm

    Oh, I’m sneaky as can be.

    I gotta em all fooled.

    If they only knew.

    Oh…if only they knew what awaited!


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    Post by U Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:25 pm

    I've got some idea.

    We can discuss your dissatisfaction anytime you'd like.

    You have my address...


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:30 pm

    I am fully satisfied my friend.

    Filled to the brim.

    No regrets.

    No take backs.

    I meant and mean it all.

    This is full volume living.


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    Post by U Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:32 pm

    I KNOW
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:34 pm



    They don’t see or hear us coming…

    The fools with their silly missions.

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