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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:28 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the topic reminder post for Personalism 101.

    A good place to start is right here……. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/personalism/

    My contention is that the BPWH = Personalism.

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    Post by GSB Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:54 am

    On another note: The multiverse theory predicts "many persons" which apparently is an idea too big for Dan to process (at least in this universe).


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:15 pm

    Near mathematical certainty, ha!

    When dealing with nature and humans GSB, we do not speak in certainties, we speak in potentials and probabilities and chaos.

    Energy takes the path of least resistance.

    The simplest solution is usually best.

    Occam’s razor and all that.

    The multiverse is not at all near certain, it’s unprovable.

    Entities should not be multiplied beyond necessities.

    Keep things simple.

    Multiverse is not simple, it’s standing on a pin twisted backwards with one’s head between their legs.

    Contortions do not equal necessities.

    And why have they so contorted themselves?

    To deny that we live in a tuned universe.

    The multiverse is silly on its face.

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/multiverse-theories-are-bad-for-science/



    God and multiverse, prove em.



    The biggest question is why there is something rather than nothing.

    Personally, I don’t ask this myself.

    There is something, make the best of it I say.

    This is not nothing.

    An illusion or dream most likely, an imagined world.

    How’s your imagination, key to all of this I think.

    Conservatives don’t want to imagine, they want something always changing to never change and that’s why they suffer.

    They want certainties, where there can never be any.

    Poor muppets, but easy to manipulate.

    As we can imagine new worlds, maybe we create these alternative universes inside ourselves.

    Maybe we are world generators.

    Always in flux, never really home anywhere.

    One has to eventually wax poetic about all of this.

    As many worlds as there are people?

    But we all appear here together.

    We all are connected, overlapping, interchanging.

    As above, so below.
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    Post by U Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:15 pm

    Occam's Razor 🪒

    And yet

    You do recognize a tuned Cosmology!

    Oh, good.

    How could a Universe be tuned without a god!?

    Perhaps you'll tell me.

    Still

    If every Person can dream a world or universe into being why do you feel the need to split hairs with GSB?

    There's enough universes to go around for most people I reckon!


    As long as their Imagination is up to snuff.

    Is that it?

    I'd like to see yours go up against mine sometime 😾

    That's for goddamn sure!

    Perhaps bets will be taken!

    We'll see.

    At the very least no one could ever accuse you of being an atheist!
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:21 pm

    The simplest explanation is we are meant to be here.

    Duh.

    There are no certainties in this life beyond what is born will die and none of us know what that will be like.

    We can speculate all we like.

    That word God is just a word.

    All words are just abstractions.

    Nothing certain can be said in word.

    We each have life.

    Live it.

    Dream or not, doesn’t matter.

    I am no ist of any kind.

    There are no words for what I AM.

    If others can be easily fooled by words, what do I care?

    I can play word games with the best of em.

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    Post by U Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:37 pm

    All You have is words brother.

    And I'll use every single one of them to spin You right round.

    Tongue Tie, Deceive and also Receive.

    😈

    I AM

    BUTT

    U R

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    G N O S T I C

    Me thinks.

    But not just about u

    Ur fello postuhz 2
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    Post by U Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:43 pm

    I Am the Best of Them 😏
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    Post by dan Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:39 am

    There is talk of a Tasseography meeting, later in the day…… but no biggee.

    There is also talk of Armageddon and Tribulation.

    Turkey has its eye on Cypress.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:06 am

    Tasseography?

    Haha, those muppets should attend to their present and not worry about what’s to come.

    Dan’s friends sure are silly muppets.

    What will happen will happen.

    Armageddon?

    No biggie.

    Turkey smurkey.

    Don’t get too worried about the nonsense of muppets 99, if they want to blow it up, what are ya goin do, shrug.

    Enjoy today while you can.
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    Post by 99 Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:29 am

    Well, as long as they're going to do a Tasseography session of some sort, it might be helpful if they can narrow down the right Cypress.

    Does Dan mean the city of Cypress in CA or the one in Texas?

    Or, for that matter, is he actually referring to Cyprus (the island in the Mediterranean).
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    Or is he talking about a Cypress tree?
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    Whatever the case may be, if Putin is going to bring out the nukes, I want to know about it so I can add a few more things to my Bug-out
    Bag.

    Like a radiation FALLOUT!!  affraid hazmat suit, for example.

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:11 pm

    We live right on the road out of town. The gas will go fast, then you have to put the pack on and hike it.

    But I might stay in the front yard and get a great sun tan, not sure.

    There are 3 things we can do if he nukes them. My hope is his opposition will grow and take him out and there are big cracks in the elite. He is clearly insane and this is life and death for him.

    1) Sanctions and more Ukraine support, this won’t work. He will just drop more bombs and burn it all.
    2) We destroy the unit and threatening units who could drop bombs. This could escalate quickly. Russia can’t match us conventionally. They seem really to only have the nuke option in direct conflict. This also warns China to back off Taiwan.
    3) Gloves off, we all fight and the world moves onto the next Stone Age.

    Let’s all get along.

    I think it’s inevitable Russia, China, NATO/US are gonna rumble, we may enter the battlefield nuke age inevitably, but that’s gonna lead to all out war.

    I think we should hit Russia and China hard, right now. We can’t trust or hope they become more loving. They won’t, they will get more aggressive. We should knock their blocks off really. That’s all they will really respond to. But we will not do this, they will get stronger and they will take some real shots at us.

    These proxy wars are safer than direct conflict.

    China has gone all in with Putin. Hell, maybe they offer to provide troops to fight in Ukraine as an alternative to bombs, but I doubt it. China has gone ALL IN with Russia to resist the current world Hegemony led by the US.

    We keep the peace in the world to make money mostly and use that power to keep everyone in line, which keeps things relatively stable. Who wants another World War, they suck. So we can always hope greed forces people to the table. I’d bet greed will win over destroying all business possibilities. Mob bosses like things stable.

    The worst case, the east decides to preemptively try to take us out and live with the fallout, literally. I don’t think they want this. China isn’t stupid. They are behind Russia and would rather them fight NATO. I hate to say it, it sucks for Ukraine, but we maybe let Putin have the land he wants and make Ukraine neutral, Elon might be right. But Ukraine will start to strike more in Russia and make it very painful for Putin, they aren’t gonna give up and I love them for that. There is too much at risk though to support Ukraine’s pride. The funny thing is, Putin knows NATO is defensive. He is using all of this to take what he wants and we just might not have a choice but to give it to him. He’s potentially capable of much worse than Hitler or Stalin combined.

    Hopefully the cancer kills him.


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    Post by 99 Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:44 pm

    Good post Chivo! Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm just out the door but just wanted to say that.
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    Post by GSB Sat Oct 08, 2022 12:36 am

    PERSONALISM 666

    Number of the Beast -- that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.

    Carbon -- Atomic structure
    It has an atomic number of 6. That means a carbon atom has 6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 6 electrons.

    Personal Carbon Allowance (PCA)

    A PCA scheme would entail all adults receiving an equal, tradable carbon allowance that reduces over time in line with national targets. In its original design, the allowance could cover around 40% of energy-related carbon emissions in high-income countries, encompassing individuals’ carbon emissions relating to travel, space heating, water heating and electricity6. Allowances were envisioned to be deducted from the personal budget with every payment for transport fuel, home-heating fuels and electricity bills.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Oct 08, 2022 12:54 am

    I AM the Beast!

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    There is something about this Nietzsche quote that makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

    GSBs last post reminded me of a theme I resonate with deeply.

    That we are the monsters and the angels.

    That they exist paradoxically in us, mostly unconscious.

    This is energetic.

    It’s electric.

    When I first read it, I was smacked across the face.

    And I heard in my head, you are one of my dangerous children.

    See my other post on my thread for a little more background maybe.

    “For one may doubt, first, whether there are any opposites at all, and secondly whether these popular valuations and opposite values on which the metaphysicians put their seal, are not perhaps merely foreground estimates, only provisional perspectives, perhaps even from some nook, perhaps from below, frog perspectives, as it were, to borrow an expression painters use. For all the value that the true, the truthful, the selfless may deserve, it would still be possible that a higher and more fundamental value for life might have to be ascribed to deception, selfishness, and lust. It might even be possible that what constitutes the value of these good and revered things is precisely that they are insidiously related, tied to, and involved with these wicked, seemingly opposite things — maybe even one with them in essence.

    Maybe!

    But who has the will to concern himself with such dangerous maybes? For that, one really has to wait for the advent of a new species of philosophers, such as have somehow another and converse taste and propensity from those we have known so far — philosophers of the dangerous “maybe” in every sense.

    And in all seriousness: I see such new philosophers coming up.”

    (Beyond Good and Evil: Prelude to a Philosophy of the Future, pp. 10–1)

    This passage is from the first chapter titled ‘On the Prejudices of the Philosophers’. Here, Nietzsche is critiquing philosophers for not being philosophical enough. He argues that philosophers often rely on basic prejudices, presuppositions, values and binary oppositions that go unchallenged and unquestioned. (Dan hates to be challenged and is full of his own bias) A “dangerous maybe” or a maybe that’s dangerous is the act of questioning a fundamental presupposition. A dangerous maybe is a dangerous question. This means “dangerous maybe” is the name of a radical form of philosophizing that challenges all of our foundational assumptions.

    I risked everything to free myself from this prison world of desire and lust, but I was not alone, nor did it for myself only.

    You know how you free yourself, you enjoy what is, what you have and cease looking for tomorrow to make things better or to have the better thing.

    This is the kind of philosophy I practice. Both Nietzsche and Rage Against the Machine “know the power of a question” and I also want to know this power as much as I can. The world is broken and the way forward will be found in a dangerous maybe.

    Are you living dangerously?



    Tonight I feel Being speaking very clearly to me.

    It is not nothing.

    Inside the functionality of our everydayness, we cannot encounter beings as a whole, but on rare occasions there will be a rupture in this order, a tear in this homogeneous fabric. These ruptures necessitate what Deleuze called the Encounter in “Difference and Repetition”, that is, an experience so intense that it disrupts our mode of access to the world. This is similar to the Lacanian notion of the Real bursting through and shattering the Symbolic. However, the larval form of these concepts of disruption can be located in Heidegger’s description of unreadiness-to-hand in Being and Time. But it must be stressed that not all encounters with beings as such are necessarily traumatic — in fact, it can be downright joyful.

    Seeing the stars through the James Webb telescope.

    Watching your Garden and life grow and thrive.

    Seeing atoms magnified.

    A beautiful sunset.

    Geometry in nature.

    Experiencing the birth of your child.

    I have had the Encounter.

    I lacked the symbols to express the experience.

    I am sure many experiencers of the Phenomena can relate.

    Dan can I’m sure.

    We try to use the symbols we know to make sense of these ruptures in the repetitious.

    We make them religious maybe.  

    But that simply won’t due.

    In stepping outside of our everyday familiarity we are in a position to recognize the difference between beings as such and nothing. This is an opportunity to ask the question:

    “Why are there beings at all instead of nothing?”

    And this question can, then, give way to the question concerning Being itself (Sein selbst). What’s important to know is that this experience of Being itself, even if not followed up with a proper thinking through of itself, can inspire a person to think along new and revolutionary paths.

    How so?

    Because it reveals to a person that there is a vast outside that always escapes the parameters of familiarity and all of its derivatives (doxa, knowledge, philosophy, the big Other, myth, objective spirit, worldhood, science, religion, politics, tradition, Wissenschaft, common sense).

    The experience of Being is the unforgetting of the Prior. Polt words it like this, “To recollect the givenness of the given is not to relive an old experience of something, but to become aware of a sense of the whole that must be in place before anything can be experienced” (The Emergency of Being, p. 27). To be Dasein is to implicitly or explicitly have a sense of the whole. It means to have a sense of your own there within the whole there.

    This is the bridge I didn’t want to cross I think Dan was pointing to.

    Becoming aware and unforgetting the whole changes you forever.

    Opens you up.

    Brings you joy.

    The loss of old myths is terrifying for some.

    Painful.

    But there is something so much greater than the small set of things we are familiar with.



    Heidegger sought to give a phenomenologically accurate description of the self in Being and Time, i.e., he wanted to describe what the self is really like (what it's really like to be a person).

    Heidegger showed the self to exist as Being-in-the-world. The self actually depends on the world. The world is the condition of selfhood. Descartes simply failed to recognize that human beings don't exist in the way substances do, and in failing to see this he reduced our Being to substantiality.

    Now, for me to be the "I" ("I" is put in quotation marks here to signify that the "I" isn't a substance) that "I" am, there must also be other human beings, equipment, etc., i.e., a world. The self that I am is ontologically entangled with the relations I have with other people and the equipment I use.

    To say that the world is an illusion is to say that I am an illusion. If I exist, then the world exists. If the world is an illusion, then I am an illusion.

    Once a person has seen the worldly character of the "self", then one understands that human beings have their Being-in-the-world.
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    Post by skaizlimit Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:10 am

    Back in the hole while the freezing wind blows Hard. On the blog I can follow meanderings of a Tard. A message I have to convey from the Guard. A vision of women who appreciate a real man in my Yard. The Fat Ugly Bastard on the Blog is Stupid as Lard. I pray she will accept my now blue Dance Card. A Marine I remain frozen at my post tall and Hard. May she come to me now before the gates close Hard.
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    Post by GSB Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:38 pm

    Why I think there's a one-in-six chance of an imminent global nuclear war by Max Tegmark

    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Dod9AWz8Rp4Svdpof/why-i-think-there-s-a-one-in-six-chance-of-an-imminent


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    Post by skaizlimit Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:40 pm

    Taking a break from the icy cold. Now 350 meters down in the hold. For the lady on this blog I may seem too bold. But interacting with visitors makes me feel old. So if ever a story were worth being told, it is of the WCM who is down in the hold, waiting for the lady of the blog before I am covered with mold. If you want a hard man, this one will be sold. With my rifle at my side my gun is a wonder to behold.
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    Post by U Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:44 pm

    West Coast Marine, would you consider yourself a servant of the United States of America and their interests both foreign and domestic no matter the odds?
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:42 pm

    I kind of love Elon Musk sharing from his heart recently trying to push people past their anger.

    Most may call him naive, but I think he means what he says.

    He has a simple request, please don’t snuff out consciousness on earth, it is a precious and beautiful, flawed in its physical expression it may be.

    It may be too late, we may snuff it all out.

    But I hope not.

    For myself, I’m ready for anything.

    I learned the greatest secret human beings can learn.

    If you master this, it doesn’t really matter what happens.

    It doesn’t make you a nihilist, it leads you back to the garden of Eden.

    Jesus said the same, though the modern cult of apocalyptic muppets has no idea what it really means, nor apply it mostly in their lives.

    This will make you incorruptible and impervious to the propaganda.

    It’s true though, maybe one of the only true things you can do in this life.

    There really isn’t anything else to know.

    “If you die before you die,
    You won’t die when you die.”

    All my writings on OMF are just about these two lines.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:53 pm

    skaizlimit wrote:Back in the hole while the freezing wind blows Hard. On the blog I can follow meanderings of a Tard. A message I have to convey from the Guard. A vision of women who appreciate a real man in my Yard. The Fat Ugly Bastard on the Blog is Stupid as Lard. I pray she will accept my now blue Dance Card. A Marine I remain frozen at my post tall and Hard. May she come to me now before the gates close Hard.

    Don’t let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out.

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    Post by 99 Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:23 pm

    lol!
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    Post by skaizlimit Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:31 pm

    I know the difference between Good and Evil, so I serve the Princess, and with her blessing I yearn for the kindness and comfort of a loving woman who will walk with me through the final gate and follow the one path through the labyrinth of the hive where together we may start a new world. I am old, damaged by a century of battle against evil, but easily repaired and ready to fertilize the new world and build a new Corps able to defend the world from all that evil may send forth. Down in the hold my strength builds each day as I prepare my rifle and sword for the final assault and my gun for building a new world. The chicken clucks and ducks while I advance, no longer mindful of the strength or evil stench of the enemy. The chicken scratches the ground with head down while I pound the ground with my head high breathing in the acrid smell of destruction with a vision of the beauty that lay ahead.

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:47 pm

    skaizlimit wrote:I know the difference between Good and Evil, so I serve the Princess, and with her blessing I yearn for the kindness and comfort of a loving woman who will walk with me through the final gate and follow the one path through the labyrinth of the hive where together we may start a new world. I am old, damaged by a century of battle against evil, but easily repaired and ready to fertilize the new world and build a new Corps able to defend the world from all that evil may send forth. Down in the hold my strength builds each day as I prepare my rifle and sword for the final assault and my gun for building a new world. The chicken clucks and ducks while I advance, no longer mindful of the strength or evil stench of the enemy. The chicken scratches the ground with head down while I pound the ground with my head high breathing in the acrid smell of destruction with a vision of the beauty that lay ahead.

    Sounds like you need a vacation.

    Relax muppet.

    Slaves serve.

    That was your play, to serve?

    Bahahaha

    Black and white, good and evil is what dualistic confused muppets see.

    You are both and all in between.

    Not too smart sparky.

    I see little signs of intelligence or awareness in thy words.

    Blah
    Blah
    Blah

    Better you serve.

    You can drop me a line anytime you are ready to be schooled.

    Smelly 🐐 has you and your friends under my hoove.

    You want kindness, be kind.

    I live with a goddess, soooo…

    No one can walk you through anything muppet.

    You have to walk on your own.

    My god the confusion in thee.

    Ug.

    You aren’t advancing, you’re receding.

    Just go gentle into that good night and enjoy your rest.

    Better luck next time around.

    Die before you die, that’s the only way.

    I can’t wait for you Boomers to leave the earth.

    Me and my kind hold the world up, not yours.

    We don’t need no guns.

    Try real love sometime.

    Moves mountains 🏔

    Good luck muppet.

    Your opposition is your best friend.
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    Post by Foot Mann Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:03 pm

    I have held back the past few months under threat of censorship by the Chicken or revocation of blogging authorities by the Right Foot, but I can hold back no more. Remarks by what the WCM refers to as the Fat Ugly Bastard are repulsive. I know the Right Foot has politely urged the Chicken to remove the FUB from the blog, but the Chicken has foolishly claimed the FUB was learning and adapting from evil to good. His remarks concerning the WCM confirm his pure evil. He denigrates God, denigrates Jesus, denigrates Mary, and mocks all who devote their lives to Good. I have followed the great work of the WCM over nearly a century. From award winning published poet, to religious and philosophical scholar, to acclaimed warrior, and now as representative of the Princess to Visitors. At one time he was a shoe in to replace John Holmes but he stepped aside of that career path as did the Footman, to use his talents for good. At one time he was a contender for the national Pugil Stick championship but he stepped aside of that career to use his talents for good. The WCM was a pioneer in women's rights, assisting disabled veterans, and promoting humane treatment of pets and wildlife. Never starting a fight, the WCM finished every fight standing tall. He is an American hero, and an Earth hero -- one of the few who stand ready. He gave up wealth, fame, and the pleasure of women to devote his life to God as one of his loyal warriors standing against an enveloping darkness. Remarks by the FUB concerning the WCM lift the vail under which he has been hiding exposing his true evil. His purpose on this blog is to oppose the Chicken, confuse all who try to listen to the Chicken, and infuse darkness and evil into the dialog. Unable to persist any longer wading through the filth spewed on this Blog by the FUB, I will be passing the blog baton back to the Right Foot for reassignment.

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:18 pm

    Bahaha

    Don’t hold back, let it all out.

    It’s good for the soul.


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:20 pm

    “The goddess received me with kindness, and, taking my right hand in hers, she addressed me with these words:—Youth joined with drivers immortal, who hast come with the horses that bear thee, to our dwelling, hail! since no evil fate has bid thee come on this road (for it lies far outside the beaten track of men), but right and justice. 'Tis necessary for thee to learn all things, both the abiding essence of persuasive truth, and men's opinions in which rests no true belief. But nevertheless these things also thou shalt learn, since it is necessary to judge accurately the things that rest on opinion, passing all things carefully in review.

    …mortals knowing nothing wander aimlessly, since helplessness directs the roaming thought in their bosoms, and they are borne on deaf and like-wise blind, amazed, headstrong races…”

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