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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:28 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the topic reminder post for Personalism 101.

    A good place to start is right here……. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/personalism/

    My contention is that the BPWH = Personalism.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:47 pm

    And her being the Queen of the Hive and that the Sun will be going out.

    I’d LOVE to  hear more about that.

    No one or force mediates my connection to the source.

    If you are a Christian, Jesus finished it or he didn’t.

    How do they reconcile this?

    Ron Pandolfi has been using scientists to research strange science.

    Does he still?

    But we never hear about this.

    Once in the CIA, always in the CIA I have heard it said.

    I don’t even know who the Foot account is.

    Dan says it is sometimes Ron and most of the time, impersonators or minions.

    This to me is an affront to personalism and disrespectful to OMF and Cy and others making genuine personal authentic contributions.

    Speak for yourself.

    There are many folks with dupe accounts and they play around.

    I have done this myself in the past.

    But I wised up.


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    Post by Cyrellys Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:52 pm

    That is pretty much what I was wondering too, Smelly.  "no one mediates my connection to Source; how do they reconcile this?"

    Source gives us no indication of this catastrophe...contrary it directs and presses forward on the agendas it set in motion for us.  We 'Loons' have a boss and he's not in on the Sun & Hive thing as far as we can tell and we've looked and inquired.  So we'd like to know more from the FEET in at least an attempt to reconcile what is going on here.  But for that to happen the potty mouth has to be shelved.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:56 pm

    Cy, my opinion is they are liars and have no interest in genuine discussion.

    They are executing some kind of misinformation campaign is my guess.

    They don’t respect the experience of others.

    I think they have duped Dan and been partially responsible for his current psychosis.

    If this is not true, speak up.

    If one knows themselves, they are love, they do not seek to obfuscate or confuse others.

    They are naked and authentic.

    You can smell lies or truth on people.

    I don’t get good smells from Foot on OMF.

    Just my personal opinion.

    I suspect we will hear nothing more for them Cy and that will tell us the truth.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:59 pm

    Cy, Dan, 99, U, and Smelly joined in harmony may be unstoppable.

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    Post by Cyrellys Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:02 pm

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:Cy, my opinion is they are liars and have no interest in genuine discussion.

    They are executing some kind of misinformation campaign is my guess.

    They don’t respect the experience of others.

    I think they have duped Dan and been partially responsible for his current psychosis.

    If this is not true, speak up.

    I think Dan's current psychosis is more likely an issue with some sort of medication overdose.

    I can't see this as a misinformation campaign, as this would be the least effective or useful misinformation campaign in the history of such campaigns and there's been too many out there to count.

    Both Jack and Dan have at different points in time made plenty enough sense, so I don't see it as lunacy entirely.

    I've been around the block with communication enough to know that silence and parsing words to muddy content for cya can be construed a million different ways incorrectly and never hit the real reason it happens for. The best approach is the direct one in such cases...walk up and just ask.

    so, wtf?


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:08 pm

    Lack of sleep is certainly affecting Dan he told me he’s hallucinating.

    I think Dan and Jack are pirates, Jack self confesses this.

    Dan told me to keep ahold of his hand and I will.

    Dan has told me often that being outside is a big advantage and protection in a way.

    He has told me how he met Ron and gone into great detail about his Sophia experience and his connection to Jack.

    He continues to point me back to the CORE story.

    Above Jack says Rock Doty account is true and you are dumb or lying to deny it.

    The Foot account has a personal problem with me.

    No problem for me.

    How lovely in the personalism thread.

    Foot account has been trying to divide us, but we have united.

    The powerful succeed in creating the illusion of division.

    They have no real power and they know it.

    They count on the stupidity and fear of the herd.

    Well Cy and I and others are beyond that.

    They can never sever the connection I have to Dan, or my connection to OMF.

    Destiny has joined us here.

    Jesus was one of the biggest loons in history.

    I stand with him.

    Yah, I am with the J Guy!
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    Post by skaizlimit Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:15 pm

    I will begin my return home from the hole tomorrow having just received the sad news that Dan is struggling with physical and mental disabilities. I never had much patience for his disregard of the law, contempt for societal norms, or his disgraceful abuse of Christian values; but I had been instructed to Listen to the Chicken, and I did, sometimes learning a thing or two of significance. This coming year I hope to meet up with Cy who I admire and respect, swap a few good hunting stories, and maybe share some secrets regarding what is really going on down in the hole. I have already connected with Dynamite and will be meeting up with him very soon enough to blow off some steam. I respect the Left Feet, all of whom were carefully selected for their intelligence, education, creative thinking, independence, and of course loyalty. Moreover I agree that without Dan, the mean IQ of the Blog drops precipitously to around that of some of the special education classes I used to teach, while the degree of mental illness says fast. I was here to Listen to the Chicken, and without Chicken, I skedaddle Left in lock step with the Feet. Should I miss the Babble, I can always stop by the local Walmart for more intelligent conversation. Kids these days are told in public school that they have to treat everyone with equity. In my time we learned to tell the truth, and the truth is there are some really stupid and crazy people on the Blog without whom it would have been much more interesting and educational. I can walk away with my buddies Smith and Wesson for protection and my pal Blitzen for more intelligent company.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:20 pm

    skaizlimit wrote:I will begin my return home from the hole tomorrow having just received the sad news that Dan is struggling with physical and mental disabilities. I never had much patience for his disregard of the law, contempt for societal norms, or his disgraceful abuse of Christian values; but I had been instructed to Listen to the Chicken, and I did, sometimes learning a thing or two of significance. This coming year I hope to meet up with Cy who I admire and respect, swap a few good hunting stories, and maybe share some secrets regarding what is really going on down in the hole. I have already connected with Dynamite and will be meeting up with him very soon enough to blow off some steam.  I respect the Left Feet, all of whom were carefully selected for their intelligence, education, creative thinking, independence, and of course loyalty. Moreover I agree that without Dan, the mean IQ of the Blog drops precipitously to around that of some of the special education classes I used to teach, while the degree of mental illness says fast. I was here to Listen to the Chicken, and without Chicken, I skedaddle Left in lock step with the Feet. Should I miss the Babble, I can always stop by the local Walmart for more intelligent conversation. Kids these days are told in public school that they have to treat everyone with equity. In my time we learned to tell the truth, and the truth is there are some really stupid and crazy people on the Blog without whom it would have been much more interesting and educational. I can walk away with my buddies Smith and Wesson for protection and my pal Blitzen for more intelligent company.

    Buh bye 👋

    I have seen no signs of intelligence from any of you but Dan and Cy as far as the main players here.

    You are just NPCs as far as I can tell.

    Ron and his crew of muppets have shown us who they are, I believe them.

    And I love that I got under y’alls skin.

    It does bring me a kind of warm joy, your arrogance is delicious.

    Your contempt and judgement is scrumptious.

    You don’t know love, do you?

    Keep at it, I I love you you all so much.

    Awww, maybe next time around.

    Keep it coming.

    The joke was on you.

    The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

    41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

    44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

    45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’”

    —Matthew 25:40-45

    You had a chance to learn to love, so far, you’re failing.

    You are not Dan’s friends.

    You have denied the basic part of his message.

    Love.

    Good luck with your guns.

    I hope they keep you warm at night.

    Love is my shield and comfort.

    I don’t think a one of you muppets in Ron’s crew has any idea what love really means.

    You don’t know Dan at all.

    Maybe Doug does, he’s the only even close I can see.

    The rest, back in the fire 🔥 with ya, you aren’t even close to being finished.

    Now you know what your real mission always was.

    And that is all that is going on here.

    It’s not too late to choose love, choose kindness, be love and you may yet redeem yourselves.

    Open your hearts and be personal.

    You have closed your hearts.

    That is a mistake.

    Let the smelly 🐐 remind you what your mission is.

    He is my good and faithful servant.

    The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control…” Those who are in Christ are distinguished from unbelievers in that they have been gifted with the Holy Spirit, enabling them to bear fruit.

    I have the Holy Spirit.

    Oh, snap.

    I caught you in my web.

    And I won’t ever let you go.

    Why do you think Dan has taken ill for a season?

    For me to show you, you are way off the mark.

    Run away Left 🦶🦶

    Run away Dynamite 🧨

    Run away skaiz

    My web will only tighten around you.

    You cannot avoid me or escape this.

    You have shown yourself unworthy.

    Do better.

    Straight on til morning.

    Bahahahahaha

    And so it will go for all who run 🏃 from my LOVE 😍

    Don’t you see?

    Dan told you over and over!

    You don’t listen to him.

    You betray him.

    You have shown us who you are and we have shown you who we are and you spit on us.  

    This was all a setup for LOVE and it is beautiful!!!



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:56 pm

    I want to thank the unerring nastiness, jealousy, judgment, and contempt of skaiz, dynamite, and the left 🦶🦶 for being excellent foils in the demonstration of the only real mission and truth of life, to learn to love and be loved.

    I know it’s hard for you to accept you are no match for the smelly 🐐 in integrity, heart, focus or intelligence, proven again and again.

    The three little birds 🐦

    This is the real Disclosure, to accept love or not, to be or not to be.

    This was the real purpose of their time on OMF until now.

    You were excellent in your roles!

    Bravo 👏

    Do you know why you were so good?!

    Because you have not yielded to love as of yet.

    You have not born the fruit of the spirit and true love.

    I wish you well in your fight and struggle against love.

    But you will of course, ultimately lose.

    Now go in love and bother us no more if you cannot rise to meet us in the sky.

    I would love for you to stay and open yourselves to love, but I know we will prob never hear from you again.

    *sniff*

    “If, at some point in your life,” Marcus Aurelius wrote, “you should come across anything better than justice, truth, self-control, courage—it must be an extraordinary thing indeed.”

    That extraordinary thing is true love.

    I kind of have a warm tingly feeling all over.

    Like dancing electricity ⚡ up and down my spine.

    I’m sending some to Dan.

    I sincerely hope you find love left 🦶🦶, skaiz, and dynamite before your time runs out.

    We will know by the fruit 🍉 🍎 🍌 in your spirits.

    You have work to do, get to it, or I’ll keep spanking you.

    I can do this for eternity.

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    Post by 99 Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:43 am

    The other day, Chivo mentioned that Elon Musk has "lost his marbles" wrt how he's been handling Twitter since he bought it.

    Simply put, he's running it into the ground which is jaw dropping considering that he paid $44 Billion for it.

    I mean, no one, and I mean NO ONE, has that kind of money to burn!

    So what's going on?

    Well, whatever his intentions are regarding Twitter, if he wants to totally destroy that platform, that apparently is just not happening... at least not yet.

    Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter has translated into huge user growth — for upstart social media platforms like Mastodon and Tumblr, according to new data

    Since taking over Twitter, Musk has said Twitter's active users have surged to new highs.

    New data from SensorTower found that smaller rivals like Mastodon and Tumblr have also seen an explosion of growth.

    Twitter installs have grown by 21% since Musk's takeover, while Mastodon's have grown by 657%, according to the data.


    Note:
    To be sure, overall user numbers on Twitter eclipse those of Tumblr and Mastodon. Mastodon has 1 million global downloads, according to SensorTower, while Twitter had 238 million daily active users as of July.
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    Post by GSB Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:26 am

    A metaphor for Dan's journey? In spite of the spooks may he avoid the cliff and arrive safely at the best possible destination!



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:52 am

    Indeed GSB.

    Thank you.

    Since the toxic garbage removed itself yesterday from OMF, it just feels brighter.

    OMF is a special place and I for one feel very fortunate to have met and gotten to know all of you.

    Don’t listen to a thing those fools said.

    They are sad bitter muppets.

    They couldn’t open up and they had their own little agendas.

    It is not us who ever needed what they had, it was they who should have opened to what was happening here.

    Dan and I have had such an amazing interaction.

    Both of us have sharpened one another and opened each other up.

    It was a true exchange.

    I was watching the Jack and Dan videos and it was amazing to see those two going at it.

    The best way to learn is to sit down and dialogue with someone.

    I have enjoyed my dialogues with Dan immensely.

    Though we wrestled a lot, we were both better for it.

    They can’t get anywhere near our deep connections we forged together.

    They dishonor his work and his community here.

    I am surprised what low quality muppets they turned out to be.

    Throwing rocks like bullies and school children.

    Dan claimed to be Jesus a few times.

    Well, he was always open to any who showed up and met them where they were.

    I really respected that.

    If someone came here to push their agendas, he moved them right out.

    Dan kept pushing for me to help him, to hold his hand.

    I kept telling him your friends despise me, which I loved, of course.

    He was always asking me to not be such a contrarian, but I would often say, I am skeptical of all of this and your opposition is your friend.

    They have to get past me.

    He allowed this to an extent.

    Good times.

    When you insult others, you are speaking from your own pain.

    If the bullies come back, I’ll deal with them handily, of that I can assure you.

    If you are going to be here, personally participate or move along.

    This is honoring Dan, a true Spirit of Truth.

    We came up with a working way to get through this time, have fun and go with the flow.

    This was the bedrock for all our discussions we agreed on.

    Perhaps the Princess is a nexus point, well so am I and so is Dan and Cy and others.

    We should cooperate, that may seem impossible atm, but that’s love for you.

    It lifts all the low things and wears down all the high things.

    I was surprised how often Dan spoke of love.

    I was glad he saw that was the ultimate in life.

    I have had some amazing 1:1s with people over the years here and I got close to a couple.

    I helped where I could.

    Jesus didn’t spend time with the world, he invested in a small community.

    Though I am not a Christian or religious, I respect the essence of Jesus ‘ place in history.

    Love each other was his main message.

    That’s the only real measure in my opinion.

    With all the drama and plans surrounding Disclosure, Dan was unique in acknowledging the metaphysical foundation of what is happening here.

    I bet dynamite, skaiz and left 🦶🦶 never read one word of Owen Barfield and about final participation, if they did, they would be here with us.


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    Post by 99 Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:08 am

    Give us a little more time Chivo... we all have our own burdens to bear and Dan's situation just adds to the load.

    Let's just say that some of us need more time to acclimate to the new "normal".

    Then again, everything may return back to where it was before Dan had this current health crisis.

    But this is no time for projections as the bottom line is to hope for the best no matter what the situation may be.

    We'll survive.

    I'm sure of it.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:10 am

    We have all the time we need.

    And there is no normal, there is just what happens, and adapting to it.

    Per Cy’s encouragement, whatever happens, I will continue to write here on OMF.

    Who shows up and connects, isn’t my concern really.

    99, things are always changing, being destroyed and created, we don’t go back to the way things were, we press on and forge a new thing.

    This is the essence of final participation, conscious participation.

    When people show you who they are, believe them.

    Straight on.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:23 am

    Gary, funny synchronicity, North by Northwest is one of my favorite movies.

    Your ref was very clever btw.

    That is what they did to him I imagine.

    Man I don’t like spooks.

    They are antithetical to love.

    Love doesn’t hide.

    It exposes.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:46 am

    Dan told me often, Chivo, I read everything you write.

    So mostly I had an audience of 1.

    And Dan, I read everything you ever wrote.

    Get well buddy.
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    Post by 99 Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:59 am

    Not exactly true because I read everything you write too and I'm sure others do too.

    I may not comment on what you write all the time but I DO read your posts.

    I don't agree with all that you say and really don't like to debate with you on all of your personal beliefs (or speculations) on matters that fall into the esoteric dept.

    But if I'm in the mood... I will debate with you. Smile

    But politically we're on the same page so I'm happy about that.

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    Post by 99 Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:01 am

    Out the door to get a burrito next door. Talk a bit later. Smile
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:09 am

    You should wrestle with others, it’s the only way to grow.

    You should turn over and look underneath all your beliefs the masters have counseled.

    I don’t believe anything 99.

    I just meet what shows up.

    You know that you don’t know.

    From there, you totally open up.

    This is the way the ancients became such great spiritual beings and you can too.

    Through gnosis and dialogue.

    You can only really see when you realize how little you can see.

    I wrestled with Dan constantly and disagreed on many points, but the goal is not to change someone’s mind.

    The engagement was the goal.

    For me, it is to live your best life.

    Which correlates with Dan’s best possible world.

    I found all sorts of gaps in Dan’s BPW.

    How best shall we live was the goal of the Stoics and I resonate most with them and the Gnostics.

    So we agreed on the basics.

    What works for one doesn’t necessarily work for another.

    But the foundation is love.

    Dan realized, things pop up anywhere and you should treat all who show up as friends.

    The blind can’t see or hear the connection Dan and I had in public.

    They can only scoff from their non-understanding.

    I have a huge smile thinking about what we did together.

    If you ever get the chance to pull the rip cord and go ALL IN on anything, do it!

    We are at our best when we go ALL IN, damn the consequences.

    I had such passion to write and found my voice here.

    It’s only for those who can unlock it.

    Dan and I spoke in bird language for the uninitiated.

    The true tongue of the cosmos.

    With bird language you are changed just uttering it.

    Wow, it was really something.

    It came up from deep in my soul.

    I was often amazed at what showed up.

    It’s a kind of spontaneous writing.

    Powerful stuff the green language.

    It’s the language of poets and artists.

    Along with Dan’s erudite metaphysics, he loved poetry and could turn a phrase.

    Well, so can I, I have written other places, I am a writer and artist first.

    My writing is a kind of open form, it is my poetry.

    Poetry is the greatest philosophy.

    This was one of my greatest works on OMF.

    It was a lot of fun.

    And I did enjoy our obfuscated communication.

    The ignorant can’t penetrate it.

    I doubt I shall ever find another mind like his I can dialogue so openly with.

    People are generally so closed off.

    Jack Sarfatti was a closed book when I tangled with him, but Dan was wide open.

    That is so so rare.

    Sure he had his heartfelt beliefs, but I did move him.

    And he moved me.

    He was a great source, a great bibliography.

    I followed all his prompts.

    All of them and I provided my own.

    I wrestled with the philosophy and ancients.

    I didn’t just accept what he said, I deconstructed it and ate it up and digested it.

    I found my own way through it all.

    If anyone is smart enough, this was Dan’s real value.

    I have met a few human beings like this at critical times in life.

    And I give back what I find.

    I don’t horde love or knowledge.

    I am an engineer and software architect.

    I love to mentor jr. engineers.

    I have a passion for learning and passing it on.

    I work with the smartest people in the world.

    But left brain knowledge is not the penultimate, left brain joined to the right brain 🧠 is where the real magic happens.

    He was a connection point, a node in the cosmic mesh network.

    Why he hung out with Ron’s blockhead crew, I have no idea, they just come with the deal I guess.

    They are so small and boring.

    Science is wonderful, but not the final word.

    The source will connect you if you stay open, take chances and put yourself out there.

    It’s mystical and wonderful and evidence of things unseen.

    It was an incredible time for me.

    I saw god in our interactions.

    I will miss him if he never recovers.

    But I know he will just leave his body, his essence is the same as your and my essence.

    All will be reconciled and in fact already is.

    Don’t be sad, celebrate this!

    Get well buddy.
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    Post by U Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:51 am

    I intend to change to a more welcoming tone myself going forward.

    When I switched to the moniker U from Reptile, it was during my crossing.

    I intended to use it as a sort of mirror to the sort of energy I felt coming from this part of the internet and contrast it with the internet as a whole and it also was to be used as a challenge to self appointed authority figures in this realm of interest. The vulgarity was a useful tool, one I even struggled using at times. The name U itself is in fact a mirror and I think the more discerning eyes amongst us realized that early on. The parody phase can now be put to rest as the circus clown act that it was and only be resurrected if need be.

    Now more serious discussion can be at hand.
    On to the glorious new era!

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:03 am

    I like it U!

    Good stuff.

    We all have our part and learning to express it is maybe the point of this whole show.

    Staying open is the best way.

    Uncovering what is hidden and pressuring those hiding is maybe the best thing we can do.

    People dig in the dirt to learn about history.

    We can dig into ourselves and uncover our destiny.

    Cy cracked me up yesterday and I laughed out loud when she said if this is a misinformation campaign, it’s the worst executed one ever, bahahahaha.

    But we never know who may be watching.

    I hope they enjoy the show.

    I would love to have a zoom with U, Cy, and 99 sometime.

    Dan would enjoy that.

    That would be a real looney bin.


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    Post by U Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:08 am

    Oh no doubt, that would be something special!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:12 am

    And I will not pishaw the UFO stuff so hard.

    There is obviously something happening as Jack spoke so clearly about on Tim’s YouTube.

    He says they are all missing it.

    My guess is that old pirate is right mostly.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:25 am

    Now this is counter to Dan’s last theme.

    I don’t know or care when and how the sun may go out.

    10 years or a billion, doesn’t matter.

    I have no Princess but the one I live with and I take good care of her and she takes good care of me.

    Nothing can separate me from love or mediates it.

    So Ron can enjoy his Princess, not my concern or problem.

    As far as UFO Disclosure, not my thing either, but have it.

    I have already experienced Disclosure and crossed the Abyss.

    I think the only real mission any of us has is to Know Thyself.

    Whatever Ron and his blockheads are up to, personally doesn’t interest me at all, like zero, but have it and enjoy storming the castle.

    I do agree with U, the Thunder Beings are rumbling in the sky.

    Rumble back!

    Give an account!

    I live everyday like it’s my last, so everyday is a new day.

    My own spirit reveals to me what I should know.

    I have to stay clean and open to hear it.

    I have not done psychedelics for years.

    They are wonderful mind expanding tools.

    I think my mind is more than expanded enough at this point Wink

    I stopped smoking the ganja a year ago.

    I don’t drink much, but I am maybe going to stop drinking completely.

    Being clear is the best way for me from here on out.

    I may use things ceremonially during my inner journies from time to time.

    My contribution to the dialogue is how I have found the best way to live in spite of anything that happens.  

    This is a super power.

    Stay frosty, be ready.

    I will keep my philosophical wanderings and esoteric research in my own thread.

    Let’s keep this thread going for Dan to discuss his topics of interest as any feels to do.

    I think the energy will change here and a new group will show up or we can just talk amongst ourselves.

    Cy, 99, U, GSB, Doug, you have my respect and support and I hope you will continue to dialogue.

    Dan gave me moderation authority over this thread before he went down his last 🐇 🕳

    Be respectful and stay on topic or I will moderate you on this thread.

    Appeal to Cy if you seek to overrule me.

    Cy and 99 can moderate me as needed.

    So there we go.

    We can’t go back.

    Straight on!

    Have fun and go with the flow as Dan would say.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:49 am

    I am sending Dan an encouraging meditation everyday.

    This is today’s.

    “It is the practice of the multitude to bark at imminent people like little dogs do at strangers.”

    —Seneca the Younger

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