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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:14 am

    A favorite Bible verse……..

    “For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face:…..”

    It seems to speak to subjectivity and objectivity.
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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:04 pm

    dan wrote:A favorite Bible verse……..

    “For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face:…..”

    It seems to speak to subjectivity and objectivity.  

    Would you be willing to use an orange and yellow highlighter on a new Bible with your favorite Bible codes and either attend church with me or meet and exchange gifts?

    I think it might help find a respectable woman that’s “NOT” dragon.
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    Post by GSB Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:22 pm



    _________________
    "We know the future"
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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:41 pm

    GSB wrote:

    You blog vanished?

    I found a 5 inch claw in my Landry. Of course no one wanted it.

    I gave the x2 hour window request to Sarfatti’s Twitter.
    No one gave interest so I took it outside and destroyed it with a hammer on a large stone in my front yard. Only powder was left.

    Jinn get cold.
    And I didn’t care.
    I was rewarded with a three day headache, time off work, and no phone calls to express future interest.

    And yes, GARY is mostly correct. They only know they future because “they” steal and conscript living time, with a side hustle.

    I have something smaller that look like that purple thingy.
    I left it in a safe place for IC to steal at my expense when they want it.


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    Post by Foot Mann Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:48 pm

    Always sad to see someone new on the Blog. Is LibertJava a Loon, Crook, or Worse? What is a Landry?

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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:53 pm

    Foot Mann wrote:Always sad to see someone new on the Blog. Is LibertJava a Loon, Crook, or Worse? What is a Landry?

    I have an active a.I. Editing my posts and text messages on the backside. I’m competent . Invite my over for tea.  I grow tiresome editing their edits.

    I could be at your
    Kitchen table in just a few hours. You could determine my sanity quite easily.

    Better yet, let us FaceTime. The catfish routine gets old. No sense acting like geriatrics.

    Or should i join the Chinese ufologist groups that  I cannot access. There are over 1million of them NOT being harassed?

    Suggestions, Outside of seeing how stupid America has become?
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:44 pm

    Hey new guy,

    Soon dan will be asking you to state your position on the best possible world hypothesis, and the small world hypothesis

    Just a heads up

    Oh, and by the way

    Dan is the second coming and smelly da goat is....🤔 .....well....I couldn’t really say...like maybe the Taoist Buddha incarnate or something, hard to pin down exactly....probably just a syncretic self cynic

    Foot is frog footman to the Princess (she’s the one they found in an invisible a pod in a river in Kashmir.... utsuro bune style)

    Gary is our BlackPink multiverser and article feed

    U has the hotz for all things Lizard-like 🦎 and enjoys a wide variety of music

    I’m the lil flip flopping Mormon

    Hobbit has an uncle Fibonacci and has dowsing rods for fingers (he wizened up and left the blog months ago)

    Hmmm...what else

    I think that about covers it

    Enjoy the show

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    Oh I almost forgot Fore

    Fore is our local Bible Basher

    There

    All persons of interest accounted for


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:02 pm

    😆😆😆

    I like it

    it eats funny things

    can we keep it?

    goats eat funny things also

    ....like Christmas wreaths






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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:23 pm

    I’m sure these these nice folks here on OMF would oblige you a video conference 

    Dan or smelly are most likely to oblige such a request

    Maybe you could even get both at the same time

    Others and myself might even join in the fun, who knows

    We even once had a special two day long running conference call, tru story
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:40 pm

    I remember Dan’s long con call!

    Bahahaha

    He’s so funny.

    I even called in!

    That chicken is kinda weird.
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    Post by dan Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:22 am

    1420z……..

    LJ,

    Understand that the last time I set foot in a church I was escorted out by the gendarmes.  

    Dragon lady…….. Yoko Ono is helping to rehabilitate the image.  
    ………..


    I’m a monist, but, if we wish to polarize the Monad, one way is between the subjective and objective.  

    Persons are truly subjective only in a social setting.

    The ontological question naturally arises…….

    Which came came (logically) ‘first’…….. subject or object?  

    Or are the co-dependent?  

    Did the subject arise from the object or vice-versa?  

    I follow John Wheeler and Owen Barfield……. the only real phenomenon is an observed phenomenon.  

    The Multiverse hypothesis is the height of absurdity……. there are no unobserved worlds.  

    I could be a (social/co-dependent) Yahwist…… we are that we are.  

    How then might the objects have arisen?

    There are stories about this……..

    Basically, some folks got totemized…….. either voluntarily or otherwise.  

    We have the raw and the cooked or the sacred and profane.  

    The I Am/We Are is the sacred/raw.  

    This also has to do with the ground of Being……. cosmic consciousness.  

    In order for society to flourish, we had to have a playing field.  

    We needed two things…….. boundary markers  and a ball ⚽.  

    We could also think of it as an agora.  

    Some folks have agoraphobia.  

    What is their function?  

    We can think of them as wall flowers 💐.  

    The wall flowers become everything else…….. Nature.  

    This is mostly what the myths are trying to tell us……. how we emerged from Dreamtime……. how we individuated ourselves from cosmic consciousness.  


    1640……..

    In the Dreamtime (Original Participation), very few of us looked like humans, or even animals.

    We took on fantastic shapes…… there was no metabolism or anything.

    Think of the bar scene in Star Wars, the restaurant at the end of the universe, etc……..

    Someone was bound to invent beer 🍻.  

    Here’s a tricky one……. which came first….. time or memory.  

    What came first was the Metanarrative……. how can we possibly doubt that?  

    That was Creation.  

    A central feature of the Metanarrative was the metabolism of the Creatures……. and we do mean creatures.  

    It was the rigors of reproduction that whittled down our primordial phantasmagoria…….. rather considerably.  

    The seed of the Metanarrative was the Logos Spermatikos….. naturally.

    The LS must have originated in the I Am……. in very low resolution.  

    We co-Creators are the proactive high resolution pixels, as it were.  

    In our primordial menagerie, we have a particular interest in the solar King who played opposite to Mother Earth and spirit Moon.

    ……. a golden triangle if there ever was one.  

    So what’s gonna be our myth for the origination of the Sun 🌞?  

    And why would we care?

    Well, as they, ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny……. or something like that……

    Final participation must recapitulate original participation…… the movie 🎥 runs backwards…… to some degree.  

    In other words, the Alpha and Omega do not just encapsulate our recorded history……. some six millennia……. with Nature spinning 😵💫 off on its own.

    No. The whole caboodle just implodes back on itself.




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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:39 am

    LIBERTJAVA wrote:
    dan wrote:And humans are not essentially social animals?  

    You might be dumber than you look, Chivo…… as it that were possible.  

    What we should discuss is the completed absence of “American” Asian-indie contact stories on YouTube unless they hail from China and Japan.  

    I suspect a cover-op or they are all taking orders from
    The trans-dimensional space chicken.

    There isn’t really anything to discuss.

    We are just all fartin around.

    Welcome to the looney bin.

    Trans-dimensional space chicken, ha, that’s pretty good.

    Dan doesn’t believe in space.

    You can go back to Dreamtime when you like.

    You weren’t really born, you can’t really die.

    It can get a little boring when you realize this.  

    Then something catches your attention.

    I spent a few years back in Dreamtime and then my life blossomed.

    The fun in life is remembering yourself and forgetting.

    Sometimes I go back.

    But there is something about being here as this that really gets me going.

    I suppose we learn to love this when we realize eternity, maybe we came here to do just that.

    I don’t understand muppets who want or predict apocalypses.

    That’s not the point of life.

    It really is just a distraction.

    This is where Dan and I disagree, well, we disagree about a lot of stuff.

    Such is life, we all have an opinion.

    No, my disagreement is not because my mother is a lunatic Christian end of the worlder.

    I know better than Dan.

    I’m a smelly 🐐
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    Post by dan Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:10 am

    1810zulu……….

    Chivo,

    Yes, if God were not a drama 🎭 Queen, this place would be pretty boring.

    She is, so it isn’t.  

    She must’ve had someone like you in mind when she built this roller coaster 🎢.  

    Here we have spent six thousand years clanking up the initial incline, and now, just as we reach the top, you want your money 💰 back.  

    That is hilarious.  

    Are you sure you’re not afraid 😱 of heights?  

    And you think you know yourself……..
    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.

    Who then was and will be the Sun 🌞?  

    We might as well ask……. who is the dark night of the soul?  

    The Sun is our beating heart 💗?  

    Our lives are perched somewhere between the two….. we live on the Spectrum.  


    1940………

    Dark night…….. associates with Satan/Antichrist.  

    Then the Sun is the jguy.  

    It’s pretty simple, really.

    But, no, when three opens the portals, the Sun will not turn into the jguy………. it will be a bit more subtle.  

    Ironically, it is the Sun that keeps reality frozen.  

    When the portals open, reality begins to dissolve or become more porous.

    The Sun will be psychologized…… it will become more subtle.  

    What about photosynthesis and metabolism?  

    Hey, what about the air that we breathe?  

    Well, we don’t suffocate in dreamland or Dreamtime.  

    And woe be unto them that is with child in those days……!

    So what triggers the portals?  

    Is it three, all by her lonesome?  

    What is the entanglement of the disentanglement?  

    What closed them in the first place?  …….
    Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

    24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

    Does three look like a cherub?  Maybe.  

    Well, the portals have been with us, always……. but each does have its own jinn.  

    If you tangle with one, you may live to regret it.  

    At some point, the jinn will simply give up the ghost 👻.  

    three will just drop the flag……. gentlemen, start your engines……

    And, as she says, the portals can be rather subjective, but that does not render them ineffective……. no, siree…….

    Will someone need to turn out the lights?  

    If someone does, chick 🐣 will be glad to volunteer.

    And, guys, you might wish to be a bit cautious around those sirens 🚨  🧜‍.  


    2150………

    And will you run out of air on the other side?  

    No, but pretty soon you’ll just forget to breathe.  

    Those sirens……. they’ll be portals, all right……. they’ll be dropping you pretty deep into limbo land.  

    Gradually, you’ll learn to do what the sunflowers 🌻 learned a long time ago…….. follow the light.  

    It sounds pretty boring……. just like back here.

    Well, whatever downtime you get……. that will be just enough time to reflect.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:53 pm

    I enjoy jumping cliff to cliff.

    You are just a jealous chicken.

    The magic really drives this place.

    We don’t so much create as receive.

    I don’t think we have much choice in this.

    Still, it can be fun.

    It isn’t all a sad song.

    It isn’t so bad to be a node in indra’s net.

    As least we all have each other.

    The fisherman doesn’t make the fish.

    The surfer doesn’t make the water.

    Hang ten.
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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:22 pm

    Hi LibertJava .. Did you want to stop by for dinner with me or the Right Foot? I am in San Diego, where the Right Foot took his first steps. He is in the field and inaccessible for the time being, but the Big Cheese can help with access as well.
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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:49 pm

    Well-foot, I was thinking more you more Virginia. I’m in Cleveland Dubai area with the Indians. Maybe we should FaceTime and drink tea instead.

    Caregiver, Off to work, trying to not bump into and weaponized k-poppers.
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    Post by dan Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:07 pm

    LJ,

    chick is always on for zooming……..

    Previously, I’ve just posted a link for a conference call on here.  

    It has worked out well.

    chick 🐣 can tell you more about Ron than he ever could, himself.


    0250z……..

    Ron still posts here occasionally

    This last post is by a Joe Firmage campaign worker, self identified as living in Southern California.  

    He has identified himself to Ron.  
    ……….


    three left it ambiguous as to how many would be leaving via portal.  

    Before three had told me the Sun would go out, I had suggested that a skeleton crew of humans would remain behind, at the Omega, off the grid, to meet up with the humans arriving at the Alpha.

    The Earth would experience some sort of ‘reset’ in the Omega >> Alpha ‘air gap’ in the Ouroboric CTC.  

    I never had a coherent scenario for the ‘air gap’ worked out.  

    I was mainly just trying to keep the Sun from going.  

    three has relieved me from that chore.

    The Dreamtime to Dreamtime scenario makes more sense.

    The heck with the Sun.  

    Astronomers will just have to suck it up.  

    Mostly, the world of scientific materialism will disappear.

    How noticeable will the disappearance be?  

    It will be similar to the disappearance of the air.  

    We will not be paying to our breath or to the Sun.  

    We will have other things to attend to.  

    The world and ourselves will be turning inside out.  

    That is a quasi conceptual statement.  

    How it might translate into phenomenological terms, I have no clue.

    It will likely depend on which portal you transit…… in which frame of mind.  

    Will anyone be left behind to freeze 🥶 in the dark?

    Hey, it’s on my bucket 🪣 list.



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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:54 pm

    I Just thought we could switch up the conversation to Japan’s Historical End times games. They were meticulous with their Prefecture maps.  My avatar is a prime example. Yet, no Japanese talk about their End Times demons!?

    Looks like no one wants to include them into this wonderful discussion for some odd reason!?

    There is also a complete absence of their people inside America discussing “ALIENS”.  Odd, being that they are so scientific, GENERALLY.

    I see no logical reason to stab each other in the back with barbed words attributing mental illness.  It’s a fact - on a map! Royalty drew those maps with Dead bodies during wars. Maybe Royalty has the “mental illness”?

    NIRASAKI’s are only one aspect of the cover up. Maybe those
    Were Hal’s SKINWALKER’S?  Of course, intelligent people never make any videos in Washington.  

    KOFU seems to be passing us a message that People are harassed for in this country, but not over there?

    Remember pictographs are a language!

    Havanna Syndrome gets so lame after 20 years.
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    Post by dan Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:14 am

    1510zulu……..

    LJ,

    If you wish to participate on this tiny little thread, you participate on our tiny little topic……. the small world.  

    That’s what we do here.  

    If you want to do excursions, you have the whole rest of OM……. you have the whole rest of the internet beckoning you onward.  

    Thank for this one little consideration…….. chick 🐣.  
    ……….


    Speaking of the devil……..

    Watch what he does, don’t listen to what he says.  
    …………


    So, let’s get back to Sol……….

    It’s easy to deconstruct Sol……. maybe not so easy to construct.  

    Sol 🌞 is definitely entangled with atoms ⚛……. kinda like horse 🐎 and carriage.  

    It’s hard to know which is driving which.  

    Obviously, this is a major case of pratītyasamutpāda.  

    Heck, we may be lurking in the precincts of the Logos Spermatikos…… the cosmic Potentia…….. Sol and Adam….. etc……

    And where is the son behind the sun?  

    Well, there are rumors about catfish.  

    Had we been following the light, east of Eden, we’d be wound up in a tight little ball ⚽……. kinda like we are 🌎.  

    We don’t talk about demons here…… we talk about jinn.  

    three talks about the yajuj wa majuj.  

    The west coast marine talks about taking his ak47 into the portal.  


    1600………

    Sol and Adam remind me of Vitruvius……. something like the I Am…… the measure of all things…… squaring the circle.  

    They said it couldn’t be done…… me thinks 🤔 it has ✅.  

    Well, almost…….

    We just have to put together Sol and Adam…… square the circle.  

    Presumably, it is hiding in plain sight.  

    We just need a bit of thunder.  

    There is probably a model of this in mathematics.  

    Math is lousy with models…… what comes to mind?

    Something like Gödel.  

    Gödel says it’s impossible…… but maybe it’s hiding in plain sight.  

    Gödel had it in his grasp, but it slipped away.  

    It might be something like gematria.  

    So, clearly, the answer is 42……. you can just google it.


    1700…….

    Maybe our Ouroboros is the Metanarrative and the microcosm…… the Metanarrative and the Potentia.  

    And we are the characters in search of an author.  

    We have met the enemy, and they are us.  


    2030……..

    Did the BPW ever not exist?

    Time is the essential illusion of the Metanarrative.  

    Did the Metanarrative ever not exist.

    There is historical time, and there is deep time…… or logical time.  

    So how did the Sun worm its way into the story?  

    Look, we have the best possible Creation.

    So guess what is our best possible recreation?  

    Making babies.  

    Can you figure how to do that without Sol and Adam?  

    It’s doubtful.  

    Can we do it with gematria?

    Gödel and gematria point to the transpersonal.  

    There are an unusual number of celestial syzygys…… starting with eclipses.  

    The Sun never didn’t exist.  

    Then how can it disappear?  

    If Sun is just a subjective relativity, what is the objectivity.  

    I guess I may have given that away……. look to the son behind the Sun.  

    Is the jguy just another sol invictus?  

    In other words, in the small world, we have to take mythology rather seriously 😐.  

    Mythology is all about how the impersonal proceeds from the personal.  

    Science has this truth exactly backwards…… and inside out.  

    And the sun/moon polarity is not to be trifled with.



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    Post by dan Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:41 pm

    On the Omega side of the Metanarrative, we have the problem of a time limitation, but we have the start of a rationale.  

    On the Alpha side the conceptual problem is rather different……

    We have to deal with the biological gestalt switch…… there is no such thing as being halfway pregnant.  That is the problem.  

    This ‘conceptual’ problem has always been lurking, but the (partial) explication of the Omega problem does bring our Alpha problem more into the foreground.  

    Previously, I’d been assuming a two track Eschaton, if you will.  

    I had been assuming a minimal mundane biological continuity across the ‘gap’.

    That artifice has been seriously curtailed, if not eliminated.

    You might say that the CTC solution was mainly a ‘stopgap’!  

    We no longer have that crutch.  

    Yes, we have a Garden of Eden problem, without the Deus ex Machina.

    The Couple is unceremoniously given the Divine boot 🥾.

    If there is a solution, it will have to be radical.

    Where is the Logos Spermatikos when we need it?  

    In other words, our divine couple is impregnated, from the git-go.

    And not just with the royal baby, but with the whole shebang.  

    I think there is a saying…… if you can’t solve a ‘little’ problem, what you do is kick it upstairs…… make it a cosmic Problem.  

    The royal baby is now the least of our problems

    Adam and Eve are giving birth to the BPW…… so we make it mostly a conceptual conception.  

    The royal baby is then just an afterthought…… along with the afterbirth.  

    And, remember, that time barely exists, here.  

    Everything is convoluted…… entangled.  

    A lot of this is getting sorted out on the transpersonal…… trans dimensional level.

    It all comes out in the Teleological wash 🧼.  

    But, yes, sports fans, at some point, the gates of Heaven were slammed shut……. les jeux sont fait!  

    The primordial Dreamtime fades into the background.  

    The Eschaton is ‘just’ a recapitulation.  

    Now it will be our mundane world that is fading into the background.

    We arrive back home 🏡, and we will know the place…… as if for the first time.  

    Home sweet home.  

    If this sounds like an awful lot to take on mere faith……. well, amen to that, brothers and sisters!  

    I still think it beats Darwin……. by maybe a mile or two.  

    Hey, whatever floats your boat.  



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    1600zulu……

    Gary remains incapable of conceiving of the Sun 🌞 as anything other than a solid object out there in space.

    The only point of the Sun is to aid our metabolism….. especially in the making of babies.  

    Why couldn’t we just have used a sunlamp?  

    It would have been aesthetically displeasing.  

    chick 🐣 will be the first to admit that scientific materialism is tremendously coherent…… one can’t help but admire the concealment of the handiwork……. admire the tapestry of Nature…… as far as it goes…… it just never quite makes it home to roost.  

    You know what the communications industry says about connecting that last mile…. that’s where 90% of the work is.  

    Actually, Gary admits that he has witnessed a portal.  

    chick 🐣 never has, but he is able to exercise his imagination…… something that Gary struggles with, evidently.  

    I go on to point out that Nature is suspiciously coherent……. referring to the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics as but one instance.


    1640………

    Really, Gary…….

    That would make us all machines.

    It’s too bad that we never got the instruction manual.



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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:59 pm

    Looks like the Asian end times map makers are still being ignored in the coverup.

    People are just bots anyways here.

    I see no souls, just a machine people.


    Good luck…
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:39 am

    LIBERTJAVA wrote:Looks like the Asian end times map makers are still being ignored in the coverup.

    People are just bots anyways here.  

    I see no souls, just a machine people.  

    Good luck…

    Well that was quick.

    You didn’t last long on ole OMF.

    Like a shooting star.

    Here and gone, just like a muppet.

    OMF is a bit impenetrable to the impatient.

    Even more so to the patient.

    Everything ends sometime.

    Have fun stormin the castle.

    Bye.

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    Post by dan Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:02 am

    Dear Libert Java,  

    Ron informs me that you are a semi retired (Hollywood?) actor, known to Aviary type people on the West Coast, and that you might even be an honorary member of the Aquarium.  

    So I have a hard time understanding your approach here.  

    I surely have had no contact with Japanese Endtimes prefecture maps.

    My unique approach is to do metaphysics based on the Coherence Theory of Truth (CohTT).

    Science is based on the Correspondence Theory of Truth, in case you wondered.

    What I am a proponent of is eschatological rationalism based on the philosophy of personalism.  

    I only have one long time correspondent, which is Chivo, besides Gary.  

    Gary Bekkum has no clue about the CohTT.  

    Chivo is an ex-Christian.  

    The closest I come to religion is to be something of a Jesus freak.

    In these endeavors, I do not suffer fools, especially not as we come closer the Eschaton, on an almost daily basis.

    I do take seriously my putative role as the CIA’s eschatologist of opportunity……. through Ron.  

    My only other significant government contact, briefly, was Chris Straub in 1995….. the ranking staffer of the SSCI.  

    Chris said I could rest assured that I was dealing with some very competent people.  Ron has never introduced me to any colleagues.  

    He is a person with many stories, however…… wondrous stories, you might say.  

    I’m sure there is a place for you in this picture, but you will need to understand what this is about.  

    If you have any questions or comments, please call at 443 799 ….. seven two oh one…… better to text first, of course.  



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