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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:37 am

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:50 pm

    Dan is the worst name dropper.

    It isn’t who you know.

    It’s what you do.

    Edward isn’t real, you aren’t, I’m not.

    Everyone is just pretending.

    So who has ever really met anyone?

    No one has ever met anyone really.

    That cracks me up.

    The world isn’t even real.

    So how can something that never began, end?

    Round and round we go.

    Where we stop, no muppet knows.
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:54 pm

    And humans are not essentially social animals?  

    You might be dumber than you look, Chivo…… as it that were possible.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:56 pm

    Naaaaa

    Left 🦶 is definitely the dumbest.

    I’m definitely the smartest person you never met.

    Now you know who is who.

    Boo!
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:00 pm

    Dumb like a fox 🦊.

    I wonder if there is anyone in the world smarter than smelly.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:06 pm

    There is no one smarter.

    I have perfect clarity.

    I choose to be here though.

    Lucky me.

    Your friends show no signs of intelligence or compassion.

    They are just clueless muppets.

    World is full of em.

    You nor your friends have anything for me.

    And I have nothing for you but smelliness.

    I told god I would handle you all.

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:49 pm

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    Post by dan Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:57 am

    Chivo,

    I’m going to have to, once again, curtail your posting allowances on this thread, if you can’t restrain your tendency to filibuster.  

    I suggest that you retain backup copies to post in your own section of OMF……. to your heart’s content.  

    Thank you for your consideration.
    …………….


    I am suggesting that our world is thoroughly coherent…… and necessarily so.  

    Otherwise there is no world.  

    I would be hard pressed to say what might exist beyond the world.

    I suggest that there is only one world.  

    It is the best possible entanglement of sensoria.

    Beyond that, there is nothing to be comprehended.  

    We, here on Earth are the grand central station of sensible existence.

    We are the counterweight to the I Am/Source.  

    There is no Creator without Creation.  

    We are the co-Creators……. in this self-organizing Creation.  

    I suggest that to exist is to relate…… to entangle.  

    The I Am/Source/Monad plus Creation…… we are the twin foci of entangled existence.  

    Both foci are personal and so are quantitatively finite and qualitatively boundless.  

    The sensorial aspect of space and time are finite.  

    The Source/I Am/Potentia exists beyond space and time…….. in the dimension of the Logos.  

    We, individually, incarnate the Logos Spermatikos.  

    In some sense we might be said to be the spawn of the Logos, but we are the Children of the I Am.  

    Most moderns suppose that the Nature is the ground of our existence.  

    No.  I suggest that Nature is the best possible background or setting for our existence.  

    Nature has two foci……. the Earth 🌎 and the 🌞.

    This ‘physical’ pair reflects the underlying metaphysical pair…….. Creation and Creator.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:46 am

    The filibuster is all yours!
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    Post by GSB Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:19 am

    Dan you need to get up to speed on the implications of closed timelike curves:

    Wormhole Time Machines and Multiple Histories

    Barak Shoshany, Jared Wogan

    In a previous paper, we analyzed a class of time travel paradoxes which cannot be resolved using Novikov's self-consistency conjecture, meaning that the system is fundamentally and irreparably inconsistent. We proved that the paradoxes can nonetheless always be resolved, and the system made consistent, by assuming that traveling back in time creates a new independent history (or timeline), such that any changes to the past affect only the new history and not the original one. Therefore, we argued that if time travel is possible, that would necessarily imply the existence of multiple histories. However, our proof was obtained using a simplistic and unrealistic toy model, which was formulated using contrived laws of physics. The purpose of the present paper is to define and analyze a new model of time travel paradoxes, which is fully compatible with all known physics - provided, of course, that time travel itself is possible. This model consists of a wormhole time machine in 3+1 spacetime dimensions, which can be either permanent (existing eternally) or temporary (activated only for a short time). We define the spacetime topology and geometry of the model, calculate the geodesics of objects passing through the time machine, and prove that this model inevitably leads to paradoxes which cannot be resolved using Novikov's conjecture, but can be resolved using multiple histories. This result provides more substantial support to our claim that time travel necessarily implies multiple histories.

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/2110.02448.pdf


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    Post by dan Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:35 am

    I think the basic idea is that existence is relative……. to the Alpha and Omega.  

    The jguy is sometimes referred to as the Alpha and Omega.  

    The jguy incarnates the God of Love, it is sometimes alleged.

    Love is the ultimate truth, and, so is the essence of the Logos.  

    It is the coherence of the world.  

    In other words, the Earth revolves around Love, not around the Sun 🌞.  

    When our sojourn is done, the Earth and Sun will no longer be necessary.

    With the opening of the portals, we pass beyond the event horizon of the Monad.

    Everything in Creation is pratītyasamutpāda…… co-dependent arising.

    When we complete the Metanarrative, there will be a co-dependent implosion.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:59 am

    Dan wrote:In other words, the Earth revolves around Love, not around the Sun 🌞.

    A good poetic line.
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    Post by dan Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:08 pm

    Very gracious, Chivo.
    ……….


    The Sun is ancillary for saving the appearances.

    The Earth based appearances will be melting away as the portals open.  

    We will be melting back into the Monad/Source/Telos.  

    The Monad will be replacing the Sun as a focus of our existence.

    This is only a conceptual postulation.  

    I have no clue as to the affects.  

    Time will be increasingly non-linear and subjective as the portals start opening.  

    In other words, there will not be any objective time frame for the final portal phenomenon.



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    Post by Foot Mann Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:49 pm

    Why did the Chicken not answer his phone?
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    Post by dan Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:00 pm

    I was on the train.  

    Try again……
    ……….


    In other words, three was likely both over-dramatizing and under-dramatizing the Eschaton.  

    It would be hard to do justice to the best possible Eschaton….. chick 🐣 certainly can’t.  

    But I would suggest that you might want to hang onto your hat.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:46 pm

    Just as a point of comparison using my own experience and journey to nowhere, not a filibuster.

    I think the portal I opened was the only kind of portal a muppet can open.

    The mysteries of Eleusis are a good baseline maybe.

    People were given access to the lesser mysteries of not Greek and then the greater mysteries, but only if you were Greek.

    They kept their mouths shut about what they experienced, because it was totally subjective and personal.

    Nothing written down.

    Socrates and Marcus Aurelius experienced them.

    The way is open now again after the Christian’s tried their best to destroy the mysteries.

    No 3rd party can open a portal for anyone else, I know this is a fact.

    So I think the work is to reestablish engagement with the mysteries, connection to the monad.

    The theory is that the experience of the greater mysteries was seeing a divine being, which changed you forever.

    This was my experience roughly.

    It is beyond words.

    Maybe this is like meeting your holy guardian angel in Thelema.  

    I would put myself up against any of your folks who have gone through a purported portal.

    Let’s look at the fruit of the tree.

    Someone whose life is a wreck, has not transited the portal.

    You have to prepare yourself and study everything.

    My Will tells me I had an authentic transit to the other side.

    But I am uncontrollable and unaffiliated and powerful, maybe a template for the others who are coming.

    We don’t pick sides or have a creed.  

    Probably the ancients used psychedelics and deep meditation to accomplish their work, as I tripped upon or was led to by my inner Will.

    I have seen little evidence your crew has any idea what they are doing in this area.

    I could be wrong, but your engagement to date, shows no evidence you have a mystery school going.

    Whether the princess and foot are connected to these events, don’t know, but I bet they don’t know.

    No one can do your work for you.

    So let’s get real here.

    Is there a key to immortality?

    I think there is and we should be helping each other, not trying to 1UP each other.

    I have something valuable and personally meaningful and real here.

    Do you?

    Just know I am willing to help and point the way.

    You can’t corrupt me.

    You can’t out fox or fool me.

    If you be genuine, we will connect, if not, you know what you are missing.

    Love is your evidence.

    If you have not yielded to Love, surely you are an enemy.
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    Post by dan Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:06 pm

    Poor Chivo,

    He gives no credence to vicarious atonement.  

    Also those of us who can swear by it……. we are delusional muppets, or we are sociopathic liars.

    If smelly hasn’t personally experienced something, it has to be fake news.  

    May he live long enough to experience his own limitations.
    ……….


    My take on the subjectivity of the Eschaton is being brought into question……… by three, no less.  

    Am I about to be schooled by three?  

    I guess we’ll just have to stay tuned.  

    How can something be entangled and decoupled at the same time?  

    As an immaterialist, I’m suggesting that this apparently very material world will dematerialize in proximity to the Eschaton.  

    Things will become less objective and, therefore, more subjective.  

    No?

    “Or perhaps things will become more objective and less subjective.”

    Hmmm 🤔………

    But do you believe in the Sun?

    Yes, on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
    I'm suggesting that we will decouple from both Sun and Earth, while we recouple to the Source.


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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:12 pm

    GSB wrote:Just another anomaly ...

    The statement added that the issue of "Anomalous Health Incidents," as the U.S. government calls the mysterious set of symptoms afflicting as many as 200 current or former government employees, "is a top priority for the FBI, as the protection, health and well-being of our employees and colleagues across the federal government is paramount.

    The FBI, the statement said, "has messaged its workforce on how to respond if they experience an AHI, how to report an incident, and where they can receive medical evaluations for symptoms or persistent effects."


    The targeted individual scam has been hushed by DC for over two decades.  CIA got compensation, civilians and veterans, were called lunatics, conspiracy theorists, and mental health cases.  

    See the Justice in Digital concentration camps?

    I suspect 006 and 007 were just having at each other for past grievance, which would be awesome to watch.
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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:32 pm

    Foot Mann wrote:Why did the Chicken not answer his phone?

    To many Cesarians? They block social and business calls effectively for 7 years straight, but excel at numerology spam calls while sleeping.


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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:34 pm

    smelly da goat wrote:
    Dan wrote:In other words, the Earth revolves around Love, not around the Sun 🌞.

    A good poetic line.

    Poets are slain here. Be warned.
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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:41 pm

    GSB wrote:Dan you need to get up to speed on the implications of closed timelike curves:

    Wormhole Time Machines and Multiple Histories

    Barak Shoshany, Jared Wogan

    [i]In a previous paper, we analyzed a class of time travel paradoxes which cannot be resolved using Novikov's self-consistency conjecture, meaning that the system is fundamentally and irreparably inconsistent. We proved that the paradoxes can nonetheless always be resolved, and the system made consistent, by assuming
    https://arxiv.org/pdf/2110.02448.pdf

    Where is the logic of destroying wormholes that yield physical gifts?
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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:54 pm

    dan wrote:And humans are not essentially social animals?  

    You might be dumber than you look, Chivo…… as it that were possible.  

    What we should discuss is the completed absence of “American” Asian-indie contact stories on YouTube unless they hail from China and Japan.  

    I suspect a cover-op or they are all taking orders from
    The trans-dimensional space chicken.
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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:20 am

    And now my internet is down!
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    Post by GSB Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:01 am

    Dan has apparently missed the implication of the CTC as a means of physically "rewriting history" (erasure) in the process of arriving at the BPW! (Or as Dan is often heard to exclaim, the BPW is by necessity a very personal one and to be a person is to view the BPW in the context of a personal history.)

    Again, the mantra "no information without representation" is universal in nature and fundaMENTAL, even in the context of non-materialism (or to answer the question of exactly what an investor in digital assets is in reality purchasing on the distributed ledger of a blockchain.)



    And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


    And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:06 am

    LIBERTJAVA wrote:
    smelly da goat wrote:
    Dan wrote:In other words, the Earth revolves around Love, not around the Sun 🌞.

    A good poetic line.

    Poets are slain here. Be warned.

    Sounds pretty serious

    Thanks for the warning ⚠

    Heaven forbid anyone gets slain round here




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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:25 am

    GSB,

    We all miss the mark and not

    P.S. re no information without representation

    To name something is to form something

    The only reason this is not the best possible world is because it’s the only possible world, so there is no other world to compare it to

    The concept “best” is a relative one

    There is no multiverse

    There is only this


    Books and articles won’t save any from the void

    Nothing will

    Well....I take that back....maybe a goat horn in the ass to save us from the void of voids, which is ourselves

    In reality no one needs saving from anything

    We work out our own confusion or don’t

    We individuate or don’t

    In the end there is only one that individuates

    The rest are muppets with hands up their arse

    How’s that for poetic?

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