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That’s mutual disclosure for ya.

The universe is a strange game.

We aren’t really even here.

It’s all about agape.

You can’t beat agape.

Yuh can only get naked and dance and howl at the moon.

Hoooooowwwwwwwlllllll

dan wrote:How could Chivo possibly grant higher, albeit backhanded, praise for the chick & co?

What Chivo cannot quite tolerate is the naked Truth.  



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Naked?!

Now you are talking my language.

I love being naked.

All s are Buddhists, I mean nudists after all.

There is no more naked truth than two naked muppets face to face or butt to butt.

dan wrote:Chivo claims to be an oracle with perfect intuition.  

He brooks no challengers.  

There is some merit to his claim.

He understands that he is in the right place at the right time.  

We cannot deny him on that score.  

He may or may not understand that he is mainly serving in a Katechonic role…… he is final the barrier to the Apocatastasis.  

He jealously guards the mother of all portals.  

This is also the entry point for Gog and Magog or Yajuj and Majuj…… when we open the lid on Pandora’s box .  

Chivo rails against us, muppets, but, in point of fact, he is trying to protect us from the furies.  

He understands that we are not truly prepared even for the best possible furies.  

foot 🦶 and Princess are on the same page with Chivo , on this score.  

All that chick can say is…… ready or not……. all ye, all ye, in free!  

The best possible Eschaton may appear intimidating, but its bark, for almost all of us, will be worse than its bite.  

There will be those few of us who might wish that we’d not been born.  

Hopefully, I’m not speaking for myself.  



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The one reason I stuck to you all these years Dan, yuh are poetic, a cracked old grumpy poet is worth a 1000 pretending poets.

I heard your song and made the only goat sounds I could in response.

Not always pretty, I’ll grant you, but beautiful in its own way.

Goats are not known for their singing voices, usually people only see the horns.

At the end of time, us old poets will rise again and remember it all.

From the cracks ooze a green sap.

That stuff can heal any wound.

When you eat it, wow!

Behold the green face

A gift of Pan.

Pan is not dead, it lives in my head.

I offered the only thing I could.

Myself.

In a world of pretending muppets, the only move I had was self disclosure.

It’s been a fun game.

I guard the Tree.

Somehow I’ve always guarded the way.

Delusions of goat grandeur you may think.

The end game is NOT mutually assured destruction, no no, it will end with mutual disclosure or my name is not smelly goat.

That’s the naked smelly truth.

2200z……..

Mutual Disclosure…….. co-Dependent Disclosure……. that could be a form of Pratītyasamutpāda.

We all return to Monadnock, and the I Am knows itself for the first time.  

First time……?  

Well, there is a first time for everything……. sub-specie aeternitas…… in the logica dimension.  

We always partially inhabit the logical/primordial dimension.  


2240……..

Then John S called to partially delineate the six names of the Princess.  

Three are given names, three are titles.  

The new name is Nissa.  The three titles are PAM.  

Nissa may come from Nissan as some mythological deity.  

Malik is something like the mother of Creation.  

There are also references to both the big world and small world.  

Most of this came from foot.  

It looks like chick will be keeping good company with the Tasseography folks.  

I’ll repeat that foot is alleged to have information favoring an impersonal version of cosmology.



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Dan,

You need to learn about nisse.
The winter solstice is when our house is full of them, here in the shires.

hobbit

A video from the shires showing straight lines enabling spiral rout in the central zone .
Polygons formed by the straight line geometry with satellite locations on multiple polygon points leading to the illusion of a circle.


hobbit

JPF arrived on Thursday and will remain through the Tasseography. The WCM has not approved participation of the Chicken because he has yet to pass the test. Better listen during the next lesson, ask questions, and take notes.

The WCM does not allow me to ask questions…… nor to stop to get a pencil.

Marcus knew how to live the best life in the BPW.

“The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way.”

—Marcus Aurelius

Flow with whatever happens, then it doesn’t matter what happens.

We can retire all Eschatologists.

Then they can float off into oblivion with a little peace at the end at least after a life squawking about the sky falling.

If you want Disclosure so bad muppets, disclose yourselves first.

Then it will be a mutual disclosure, the best kind in the BPW.

The Left 🦶 are cowards and liars, hiding and cowering behind nonsense.

Tests from muppets?!

That drips of fear.

Bahahahahahahaha, what absurdity.

You failed the test left 🦶 hiding cowards.

At least Dan put himself out there.

And so did smelly goat.

What have the rest of you pretending muppets done?!

Just fartin in the wind.



Move on when the muppets don’t listen Dan.

Yuh and I have heard each other at least.

I was only ever talking to myself in you.

The rest are zombies 🧟️   🧟 who want to eat your brains.

Smelly goat’s advice Dan, never write in public again or have anything to do with left 🦶 or smelly goats.

Left 🦶 and I have been battling for your soul.

But I dropped my end of the fight.

Nobody has what you need but you.

Don’t give your divinity away to swine, to zombie muppets!

Be the best chicken you can be, but only for your own sake.

I appreciate you, cracked egg that you are.

I really do.

I mean, I don’t agree with you on several points, but I heard you, it was a great wrestling match.

Snipers from the audience can go to hell, the one they live in everyday.

You are a good dancer.



Happy 4th!

The WCM is being held accountable for his failure.

Foot Mann wrote:The WCM is being held accountable for his failure.

Failure is the best teacher, unless you are then no more lessons or tests required.

We wanna play, but we don’t wanna lose.

Ohhhhh sweet oblivion, I can’t wait.

No one knows this song.

So far, what has been disclosed is that there might be something to disclose.  

I accept that this is a spoiler attack.

The PtB understand that they are on the losing side of history.  

The Truth will come out.

One implication is that chick is an essential piece of this spoiler attack.

Should I cry foul or fowl?  

All I really need to do is just keep playing it straight.  

Disclosure is inevitable, so let’s see if we can make this the best possible Disclosure…… at the best possible time.  

Best for whom?  

Best for all concerned, which is everyone.  

It’s just that simple……. les jeux sont fait.  

Let’s see if we can win this for the Gipper.  

If this isn’t a win-win situation, I don’t know what could be.  

The only problem is our fear of God.  

My job is just to allay that fear……. we are all about to sit down and have a beer with God……. and it’s no biggie.  

We even have a goat to prove it.  

Is God about to eat our lunch…… or are we about to eat God’s lunch?

Let’s just say that it all works out in the wash.

The main logistic here is that there is only one of us…… persons.

What we have put asunder, God puts together…… we become of one flesh…… substance…… kinda like the Trinity on steroids.

Again, it’s no biggie.



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I looked around for someone to say better than me what I wanted to say and found this.
The TRUTH IS WHAT MATTERS.
https://livingwellvnl.com/truth-is-all-that-matters/#:~:text=Truth%2C%20in%20the%20end%2C%20is%20all%20that%20matters,unwittingly%20steer%20entire%20societies%20in%20the%20wrong%20direction.

Isn't Your omni present god interested in the truth?

hobbit ....watching this world sink in fear from been LIED to.

1330z………

hobbit,

It’s ok …… as good as far as it goes, but what the heck is Natural Law?  

The only law that God knows is the law of Love… agape.  

All the rest is bells and whistles.  

Yes, we’re all gonna die……. we die in the arms of love.  

Is this Eschaton business a little bit scary?  

Sure….. in prospect.  

In retrospect, we’ll see that it was all inevitable…… the best possible inevitable.  

Just keep in mind that the Eschaton, like everything else, is by us, for us and about us.  

Let’s face it, the jguy did all the heavy lifting here.  

chick only has to whistle past the graveyard 🪦.  

Or think of me as the little kid pointing at the naked king .

That’s how we come into this world…… that’s how we leave it.  

Chivo simulates naivety…….. the trick is to emulate it.  

There is a lot to be naive about……. especially love.  

Somehow Charlie Darwin comes to mind…….

Charlie also played the role of the Anti/e .  

Charlie put the cherry on the material cake 🧁…… wrapped it up in a bow.  

Wow!  The picture is amazing…… the only thing is that he had it inside out and backwards.  There but by the grace of God………

And, speaking of Charlie, I may get to have my meet up with Joe F, the cheese man.  

I wonder how that will go…… it will probably go every way but sideways.  

Joe does business as the galactic Commander.  

Poor Joe……. after the galaxy , everything else must seem like small potatoes .  


1500……..

What else is new……?

Not a whole lot, it seems.  

Despite the ante Disclosure…… we just keep on trucking…… marrying and burying.  

What could possibly go wrong with the best possible Eschaton?  

Have all systems been double checked …… double checked …….?

Am I saying that St Peter is going to throw open the pearly gates, tomorrow?

Why would I say that?  

Steady as she goes………

Walk…… do not run to the nearest portal?  

I think we may have a fair amount of business to wrap up down here.  

What’s the rush?  Is anybody in a hurry?  

Hey, sports fans, we have all the time in the world!  

Is foot 🦶 ready to face the music …… manage the magic?  

There but by the grace……..

chick will be sure to bring his popcorn .  

This is the best possible world……. pre Disclosure.

It will still be the best possible world….. post Disclosure…….

……. but, trust the chick …… it won’t be the same world.  

I’m betting that most of us will be satisfied customers…….

……. but, yes, there may be a minuscule percentage of us who will be slightly less than totally satisfied…… Joe comes to mind, bless his heart.  

But even Joe, I think, will survive to see a better day.  

When his ship comes in, it may not appear quite like he was expecting.  


1600………

Joe never really got into science.  

He is a good Mormon……. and Mormons are not really looking for Truth.  

Nor are good xians, for that matter.  

What do you have to be to be a seeker?  

You have to have faith that there will be something worth finding.  

Why not be satisfied with what is, like Chivo , for instance?  

That’s not a bad question ️.  

Life, very often, can be a struggle, and most of us are prepared to get caught up in that struggle.  

Finding a mate, for instance, is a struggle that almost all of us experience.  

It would not be easy to imagine life without that struggle.  

We are all on the lookout for love……. or some facsimile, thereof.  

Some of us don’t stop there.  

Chivo kept searching…….

Maslow comes in about here……. love is only the third of five needs.  

Esteem…….. .  

Then comes self-actualization.  

What the heck is that?  

It’s also achieving one’s potential.  

What is that?  

Has Chivo achieved his potential?  

Perhaps we all have the potential to be one with the One.  

Chivo would not be one to disagree.  

In fact, Chivo claims to have been there and done that, and to still be there……. one with the One .  

Well, chick was raised as a Unitarian……. being one with the One.  

But, somehow, it didn’t quite take.  

As a kid, I was definitely impressed by the Bomb …… and Sputnik, etc……

There was power in them thar atoms .  

But, I never really wanted to make a bang…… or a buck.  

I would express it, certainly in retrospect, as wanting to know what made the world tick.  I wanted to touch it.  

I don’t doubt that Chivo has touched it.  

There is a crude, but accurate, sense in which I wanted the bragging rights, too.  

It would be less crude if I said that I wanted to share the joy.  

Ok, I wanted to teach the world to sing.  

Why the heck not?  

And, yes, the Bomb gave that task a sense of urgency.  

So, stir in more than just a pinch 🤏 of Sophia, and you know who else, and here we are……. ready to rumble?  


1730……..

And poor Joe, he never grasped the notion of a paradigm shift.  

Neither did Chivo.  

Only the physicists seem to have a clue.  

And there are definitely quite a few of my fellow physicists who are out there sniffing around, and being quite open about it.  

They mostly just lack a sense of urgency.  

And, yes, I also knew about the population bomb .  

So, there was chick , johnny on the spot, pretty much when the cold war came grinding to a halt.

I knew I wasn’t the only one to have my ducks in a row.  

But I also knew that Sophia had imparted something that maybe I could take to the bank .  

I just had to find where the bank was.  

The bank turned out to be in a corn circle in England.  

That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

Has chick reached his Peter principle?  

How much do I care at this point?  

Am I not willing to sit back and watch the show ?  

There’s just one little missing piece……… has anyone seen a portal around that I could borrow?  

Chivo…..?  Sure, but he doesn’t really like to share.

Just think of me as the spoiler chick .

Maybe that’s why Chivo doesn’t like me.



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hobbit wrote:I looked around for someone to say better than me what I wanted to say and found this.
The TRUTH IS WHAT MATTERS.
https://livingwellvnl.com/truth-is-all-that-matters/#:~:text=Truth%2C%20in%20the%20end%2C%20is%20all%20that%20matters,unwittingly%20steer%20entire%20societies%20in%20the%20wrong%20direction.

Isn't Your omni present god interested in the truth?

hobbit ....watching this world sink in fear from been LIED  to.

Some have awakened from that nightmare.

Actually Dan, I have left plenty of breadcrumbs and hints how to find your way through no way.

You have to go full fat Thor Dude?!

Can you awaken from the crisis of meaning?

Everyone is calling for the end, no!

I will not let it end, this will go on.

Period.

No more discussion.

I am looking to make peace with the Roman Gods.

Are you prepared to lose your shit?

That's the only way I know.

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Best year of my life, living as fat Thor Dude, smelly goat has been……
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(edit……. Eric, I think you can do better than this.)

At one time his Mother thought he might become President of the United States. Now he is Presidents of the Morons. What is the difference?

foot*,

I gather that you put little faith in immaterialism.

The Princess is the ultimate minimalist, which at the limit is an immaterialist. The point raised it that while your father was a professor at on of the worlds most prestigious learning institutions, you are a professor to a group of lesser zombies. The blog died many years back when you removed all restrictions on admittance. At one time you had a collection of mind worthy colleagues. Start afresh with with admission process that accepts only those worthy of your lectures. And the next time you have an opportunity to learn from the WCM, pay attention, take notes, and ask questions.

Foot mann sounds drunk, he should probably get some rest.

U wrote:Foot mann sounds drunk, he should probably get some rest.

Drunk upon what?
Control, per chance?



Hobbit the moron.

foot*,

Minimalism and immaterialism……..?

I think you are confused….. even with an advanced google search, I was unable to find any overlap between these two terms.  

Minimalism is a term used in home decoration and art.  

In the limit of minimalism, we would have have a house with bare walls, etc……

Immaterialism is not about taste in art or decoration.  

It is a term with solely metaphysical and ontological implications.  

Mind worthy colleagues vs lesser zombies…….?

Again, we have some very loose terminology.

I know that my dad was simply unable to discuss philosophy.

Indeed, many/most academic philosophers are unable to discuss philosophy.



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What does it mean to be relational?

During the scientific revolution, the English physics pioneer Isaac Newton and his German counterpart Gottfried Leibniz disagreed on the nature of space and time.

Newton claimed space and time acted like a “container” for the contents of the universe. That is, if we could remove the contents of the universe – all the planets, stars, and galaxies – we would be left with empty space and time. This is the “absolute” view of space and time.

Leibniz, on the other hand, claimed that space and time were nothing more than the sum total of distances and durations between all the objects and events of the world. If we removed the contents of the universe, we would remove space and time also. This is the “relational” view of space and time: they are only the spatial and temporal relations between objects and events. The relational view of space and time was a key inspiration for Einstein when he developed general relativity.

Rovelli makes use of this idea to understand quantum mechanics. He claims the objects of quantum theory, such as a photon, electron, or other fundamental particle, are nothing more than the properties they exhibit when interacting with – in relation to – other objects.

These properties of a quantum object are determined through experiment, and include things like the object’s position, momentum, and energy. Together they make up an object’s state.

According to Rovelli’s relational interpretation, these properties are all there is to the object: there is no underlying individual substance that “has” the properties.

https://scitechdaily.com/is-reality-a-game-of-quantum-mirrors-a-new-theory-helps-explain-schrodingers-cat/

According to orthodox quantum theory, the cat is neither dead nor alive until we open the box and observe the system. A puzzle remains concerning what it would be like for the cat, exactly, to be neither dead nor alive.

But according to the relational interpretation, the state of any system is always in relation to some other system. So the quantum process in the box might have an indefinite outcome in relation to us, but have a definite outcome for the cat.

So it is perfectly reasonable for the cat to be neither dead nor alive for us, and at the same time to be definitely dead or alive itself. One fact of the matter is real for us, and one fact of the matter is real for the cat. When we open the box, the state of the cat becomes definite for us, but the cat was never in an indefinite state for itself.

1330z……..

The Gary,

It is refreshing to have you delving into issues of philosophy.  This is not your normal posture.  

However, I have a better response for the status of the cat .

What is it like to be a cat or a bat…….?


1430……..

I suspect there is such a thing as a Platonic cat…… there is cat hood…. there is dog hood.  

Animals experience pain, but certainly not existential anxieties.  

They do not have individual eidetic memories, or individual identity.  

Stuff happens, but it doesn’t happen to a me.  

So, is the cat in the box alive or dead?  

I guess I’m saying that cats are always in an existential superstition.  

I’m suggesting that cats do not experience the alienation from the supreme Cat that we experience from our creator.  

When we ask….. what is it like to be a cat, there is nothing like an individual, situational component.  

Does the cat in the box experience being alive or dead, prior to being observed?

There is no individual cat to whom we might pose that question.

There are no individual existential cats, as there are with persons.  

In order for there to be individual subjectivity, there has to be an individual subject.  

Our subjectivity derives from inter subjectivity.  

It is an epi-phenomenon of our entanglement.  

Is individual pain epi-phenomenal?

I’m tempted to say that all pain is cosmic…… ours and the cat’s.  

It is said that when we laugh, the whole world laughs with us, but when we cry, we cry alone.  

I don’t buy that.  

Our reaction to other’s pain often seems more visceral than to other’s merriment.  

More than likely is that we and the cat will have a telepathic connection so that the observation is simultaneous, regardless.  

There are still plenty of questions about individual experience and identity, but we have any number of handles on the problem.  


1530………

I’d like to get back to foot*’s problem……..

It turns out that, in this case, foot* = foot 🦶.  

foot claims to have taught more than one philosophy course at the agency.  I wish I had been there to ask questions.  


2100………

In the meantime, I had a lengthy conversation with ftgm, which has wiped out much of my recollection of the conversation with foot.  

Here is something I relayed to ftgm…….. it has been on and off on what Chevreman is doing in town.  Originally it was for cyber security consultation, but now it is to demonstrate his device.  

This is approximately the same gyro device known as the rattling cage.  

Kevin claimed this device had portal capability, even with the power switched off.  foot did not further characterize it.  

foot sticks by his contention that extreme minimalism can be equated with immaterialism…… a very idiosyncratic use philosophical terminology.  

Back to ftgm……….

The more I press on him, the more he takes a material/technological view of Disclosure.  

In the early Sixties, we were given the choice between a more spiritual vs a technological path.  

We chose the latter, and that’s what Disclosure will be about.  

There is a Federation, that is more spiritually inclined.  

Then there are the outlaw biker/marauders.  I guess we find it easier to form ad hoc alliances with the latter.  

The Federation is more non-interventionist.  

ftgm has only a fuzzy take on the future of the technological path.

There will be further political polarization, and perhaps a resulting die-off, if the whole civilization doesn’t crash.  

Will no one question the advisability of consorting with the galactic scum?  Some might, but they, the more spiritual types, won’t have the political muscle to break through the mutual avoidance between our PtB and the Federation.  

I do recall that I was told that the WCM was part of the original security team for the Princess, when she was four years old.  At about the same time he was also alleged to have been foot’s housemate at UCLA…… go figure.  

So there we have it……. Disclosure according to ftgm who is on a similar wavelength with foot, on a number of issues.  

Any metaphysical component just won’t stand a prayer.  

Needless to say, I’m a tad skeptical.  

There is no message from the stars…….. just business as usual…… mostly just interstellar marauders.  

If the endgame does not kick in, soon, there will be a general collapse, well before there can be any thought of going to the stars.  

ftgm believes that there are already secret missions to the stars.  

I guess that some will leave the polluted Earth behind, and return in a millennium or two.  

Again, I’m a tad skeptical.  

The idea of the BPWH was never even considered.  

There was a curiously incoherent mixture of both the ETH and the UTH/IDH.  The cosmology was left dangling.  

Andre Carson was mentioned as a possible contact person.



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I have watched the decay of the Chicken's mind but I am still shocked at his inability to do the most simple math. When the Princess was 4 on this Earth, I was in DC working for President Reagan, and the WTC was here as well working Security.