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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by hobbit Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:21 am

    "Silly hobbit" was thinking in terms of preparedness for what may be about to occur.
    for example....
    What about the animals?
    Build an ark?

    Dan and his left foot talk of 90% die back, imagine all the animals presently domesticated or corralled up in factories or by fences... what happens if You smelly one are left and all others die off suddenly, maybe then You will KNOW THYSELF, or the packs of hungry dogs may fancy some smelly goat for dinner.

    Maybe there won't be any water coming out the pipes or sewerage going down the toilet or electricity , supermarket doors won't open then.

    I don't fancy been in a city?

    There are huge consequences when a present system ceases, especially the present one, not too bad if We already lived a basic life, but this ain't no basic system.

    I thought that link raised excellent questions, such as who buries the smelly goats that will get even more smelly


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:33 am

    I think the post reflects distraction.

    Just my smelly opinion.

    There is no preparing.

    Things happen, now or later doesn’t really matter.

    You are already dead.

    Only when you know you are already dead, do you live.

    Shouldn’t a priest know that?

    You are not even here half the time sleeping.

    Who is responsible for your dreams?

    Are you?

    Did they happen?

    So who is here to prepare?

    Who is all this happening to?

    When you know that, or honestly accept, we can’t know, no amount of preparation will help.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:39 am

    Ignore the warnings of every priest and especially chickens.

    Especially anti-vaxxers.

    But if you meet a priest who says, live, maybe that’s a friend and not a priest.



    I think this is a wonderful world and you are all welcome to leave when you like.

    But it is more wonderful with you all in it.

    So don’t worry if a piece of the sky hits you.

    It happens.

    Still under construction is all.

    Life is disruption, don’t be such wimps.

    Some eggs may be cracked in the making of the BPW.

    Maybe you, maybe me, so fucking what?

    Have fun.

    And try Amor Fati, just sayin.

    My crazy British uncle hobbit has lost his mind to tabloids.

    I’m afraid there is no pill to fix that.

    And hobbit, it is much more fun for the elite to have their sheep than cull them all.

    Death is the end, I smell your fear of it.

    The only problem is created by muppets who refuse to accept it.

    There are too many of us and things will balance out.

    That’s life.

    That priest is a lunatic.

    He isn’t a happy lunatic, he’s an angry one.

    He’s a zombie.

    He has a mind virus.

    I have the vaccine for that.

    To live, embrace death.

    Stop cryin about it.

    His post is monkey poop.

    Smelly goat poop is much better, with a rainbow aroma and taste.
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    Post by hobbit Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:05 am

    I ain't afraid of no death.
    I am concerned about My dog.

    The flies will think it's christmas.

    I don't buy the "there's too many of us" shit lies.

    We are co creators of whatever is put into the information field of consciousness about this living planet, it can be whatever is desired, and the lunatics that are running the nut house are plotting.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:08 am

    Never give up!

    Everyday is a new day!

    Ain’t no mountain high enough.

    Chicken little grows up.



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    Post by dan Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:47 am

    Folks are cool with the Eschaton, because we know that it will only take us from one form of Eternity to another form.  Time and plurality were only ever an illusion.  

    hobbit loves to be the alarmist.  

    Chivo loves to beat his breast at the cosmic breezes….. thinking he is the only one with cosmic cool 😎.  

    Everyone is being very cool with Disclosure……. there is nothing to see here…… just keep moving along.  

    See, the sky didn’t fall, after all.  

    foot points out that the name, Aliyah, has to do with going up and coming down…… so there would be a messaging aspect…… a cosmic meditational aspect…… cosmic consciousness and mothering are also indicated.  

    Of course, the Queen bee controls access to and through the hive, which is a way station…… on the way to the Monad.



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    Post by hobbit Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:25 am

    "Folks"
    Who dat?

    This end of the world idea, how can it relate to a best possible world if the world has ended?

    Should it not be....... best possible transmutation?

    Or are You saying that it is only the end of the world for humans?

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    Post by U Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:15 am

    Up and down, like drawing water from a Well...
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    Post by hobbit Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:59 am

    U wrote:Up and down, like drawing water from a Well...

    A well needs to be located where the outrush of consciousness dominates over the inrush, this also means that the H2o becomes charged ( holy water)
    This leads to H2o been attracted towards the surface level ( basically a tidal reaction to attraction)

    In Norman churches there are doorways on the South side and North side, coffins were taken out of the North doorway to where the outrush out of the planet is similar to where a well needs to be located ( to heaven), out of the South doorway always leads to an implosion location which is dominant ( to hell).

    It is often described by those who cannot detect what I can as been the other way around.

    https://medievalart.co.uk/2018/10/23/myth-busting-the-devils-doors-revisited/

    The whole thing is about the duality of spin of consciousness, and our ancestors knew better than the veiled present population
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    Post by GSB Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:20 am

    Physical objects ... the "others" are becoming "known unknowns" ... 70 percent of voters believe the government knows more ;-)



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    Post by GSB Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:12 am

    “It was pretty conclusive that immediate instances involve actual physical objects because they're being measured by multiple sensors,” McMillan explained. He said it’s highly intriguing that multiple sensors could back—but not explain—human sightings of happenings that seem to go beyond the bounds of American capabilities.

    “The United States has the most robust measurement and signals intelligence collection apparatus in the world,” McMillan said. “And so, with that whole need for more R&D investments, which was kind of spot-on, they're saying, ‘We've got a great intelligence apparatus for monitoring China and Russia and all these other places—but whatever we're talking about here is something different.”


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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:08 pm

    Three Titles and three Names. What do they mean? Can the Chicken get past first Base? Can the Chicken Learn?

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    Post by dan Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:31 am

    I did a little tidying up around the ranch, if you don’t mind.

    Let’s try to stay on topic, if we may, please.

    The topic on this thread is the best possible world, which includes the Eschaton and Disclosure.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:38 am

    And idiot trumpets...

    As you like.

    Truthfully the topic has always been what’s on Danny’s little mind and in his imagination.

    You don’t want to spend too much time in there.

    We are making this all up together as we go.

    In smelly’s world there is no such thing as eschatons, bliss.

    And unless those funny lights or wintergreen tic tacs in the sky land in the front yard, who cares?

    Just distracted muppets.

    A muppet wouldn’t know how to live in the BPW if you gave them a manual and instruction video narrated by joe rogan.
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    Post by dan Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:13 pm

    Ftgm and foot are in fair agreement in anticipating a zombie apocalypse, and about Congress and the President being out of the loop on Disclosure.
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    Post by hobbit Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:50 pm

    dan wrote:Ftgm and foot are in fair agreement in anticipating a zombie apocalypse, and about Congress and the President being out of the loop on Disclosure.  

    You have the cheek to call Me "alarmist"


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    Is this Your idea of the best possible world?

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    Post by dan Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:21 pm

    ftgm and foot are not alarmists, they are simply misanthropic and pessimistic in believing that our best days are behind us.

    No one I know has been able grasp the notion of the best possible Creation.  

    The concept is too simplistic for the average person.  

    Folks have difficulty with the totality of the concept……

    We necessarily have the best possible Creation and Creator.  

    ftgm claims that foot has evidence that this is an impersonal world.  

    I will be sure to press foot about this allegation.  

    Folks claim to understand and agree with the BPWH, but a week later the concept will have slipped their grasp.  

    One has only to attend to the misunderstandings that are prevalent on this thread.  

    Surely some of the ‘fault’ is with me, but not all of it.  

    Evidently, the best possible amount of misunderstanding is considerable at this point in time.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:22 pm

    I know the best possible world much better than you chickie baby.

    You are waiting for something, I am here now.

    You do the math.

    I actually live in the BPW every moment, where you and your friends only pretend.

    Pretenders all.

    There is no place for pessimism in the best possible world.

    Make things work with what shows up every moment.

    Things will never be as you desire them to be, ever.

    They are muppets, what do you expect from a muppet?

    Fear and trembling cause almost everything is bigger than you.

    Things don’t do what you want.

    Wanting is the cause of the fake pessimism.

    The cosmos will insert chaos as needed to keep things fresh.

    They are only alarmed when their illusion of power is threatened.

    You are gonna die, so make it count.

    No one has power of you.

    Not one muppet knows what is best for you.

    Everyday is your best day.

    Shows how stupid they are.

    They have never shown signs of intelligence or wisdom in fact on the blog.

    Just left footed circles.

    Shamed again by a smelly goat who knows more in his one hoof than all of them combined.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:12 am

    The game is mutual disclosure.
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    Post by GSB Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:14 am

    And now, a friendly reminder from the "Daily Paranoia" ;-)

    In the Best Possible World, the Best Possible Biological Attack (BPBA) involves a biological agent that is not transmissible between persons, so as to limit collateral damage on a global scale.

    Meanwhile:

    Distributed via the CDC Health Alert Network
    June 30, 2021, 2:30 PM ET
    CDCHAN-00444

    Summary
    The Kansas Department of Health and Environment, the Texas Department of State Health Services, and the Minnesota Department of Health, with assistance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), are investigating three cases of Burkholderia pseudomallei (melioidosis) infections. Based on genomic analysis, these three cases (one male, two females; two adults and one child) may share a potential common source of exposure. The first case, identified in March 2021, was fatal. Two other patients were identified in May 2021, one of whom is still hospitalized. One has been discharged to a transitional care unit. None of the patients’ families reported a history of traveling outside of the continental United States.

    Bioterrorism

    Melioidosis is a disease caused by germs that occur naturally in certain parts of the world, such as Southeast Asia and northern Australia. The only places these germs, called Burkholderia pseudomallei, occur naturally in the United States is Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands. One reason public health authorities study the disease is because it is possible that the germs that cause melioidosis might be used in a biological attack. A biological attack is the intentional release of germs that can sicken or kill people, livestock, or crops.

    The Threat

    We do not know if an attack using the germs that cause melioidosis will ever happen. CDC and other federal agencies prepare for many types of biological attacks, including one using the germs that cause melioidosis. These plans will help CDC, federal agencies, and health departments protect as many people as possible if an attack ever happens.

    Why might germs that cause melioidosis be used as a weapon?

    If people or groups wanted to use germs as a weapon, they might use the germs that cause melioidosis because:

    They are found in nature in certain parts of the world.

    They cause a disease that can make people very sick. Without prompt treatment with specific antibiotics, people sick with melioidosis can die.

    In the past, some countries that have used bioweapons during war have used germs closely related to the one that causes melioidosis.


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    Post by dan Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:42 am

    Chivo claims to be an oracle with perfect intuition.  

    He brooks no challengers.  

    There is some merit to his claim.

    He understands that he is in the right place at the right time.  

    We cannot deny him on that score.  

    He may or may not understand that he is mainly serving in a Katechonic role…… he is final the barrier to the Apocatastasis.  

    He jealously guards the mother of all portals.  

    This is also the entry point for Gog and Magog or Yajuj and Majuj…… when we open the lid on Pandora’s box 📦.  

    Chivo rails against us, muppets, but, in point of fact, he is trying to protect us from the furies.  

    He understands that we are not truly prepared even for the best possible furies.  

    foot 🦶 and Princess 👸 are on the same page 📄 with Chivo 🐐, on this score.  

    All that chick 🐣 can say is…… ready or not……. all ye, all ye, in free!  

    The best possible Eschaton may appear intimidating, but its bark, for almost all of us, will be worse than its bite.  

    There will be those few of us who might wish that we’d not been born.  

    Hopefully, I’m not speaking for myself.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:28 am

    I received an invitation.

    I decided to go to the party.

    Immediately, I saw the game.

    This is a game of mutual disclosure.

    If you want to play, you must be as naked as the day you were born and the day you will die.

    You guys obviously don’t know how to play.

    More fun for all the rest of us.


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    Post by dan Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:37 am

    How could Chivo 🐐 possibly grant higher, albeit backhanded, praise for the chick 🐣 & co?

    What Chivo cannot quite tolerate is the naked Truth.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:43 am

    Pretenders Wink

    You can’t beat me.

    I know I can’t win this game.

    Detente then I guess.

    Shrug.

    Lots of yummmy grass to eat.

    Who should I thank for all the grass?
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