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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    Bjc could stand for lots of things.  It’s possible to suppose that it stands Baltimore Junior College.  It’s possible to suppose that c stands for chick, which is short for chicken.  

    Talk about a pink slip, yesterday, puts me in mind of being laid off, which puts me in mind of a retrospective.........

    And a topic header does require at least ten characters.......

    The allotted length for a thread is 40 pages...... giving us a chance to take the occasional breather...... as the show goes on.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:16 pm

    Everyone put the guns away.

    Trump is farthest from love, which is why he lost, he won't learn.

    He's nothing.

    A fool.

    The usual players are far from love.

    They are illusory.

    They are not real.

    Do you know love?

    Don't let their nonsense get ya down.

    They are not the point at all, there isn't one.

    No matter how much the chicken looks, he will never find.



    Let me tell you something, Peter Kingsley found it and if you don't, buh bye.

    The pointless point.

    You can't cheat Wink

    I guess I can't deny the mystic, much as I have tried.

    It won't be denied.

    I'm fine being in between.

    I don't want anything from the gods.

    I don't want anything from the goddess.

    I don't know or want to know a god.

    I don't want anything from anyone.

    I want people to thrive.

    I want them to know what they are.

    If they only knew stillness.

    How deeply it touches you and how quickly it puts a finger to your mouth.

    Shhhhhhhhh

    I am fine, right here, where I always am.

    I can only speak for myself.

    What the other dreams do, dunno.

    But I am committed to living authentically and sincerely with myself and others.

    As far as I can see, that's the best it can be from here.

    You can all throw your heavens and hells in the abyss for all I care.  

    You have a chance to live and commune with being through being, but you have to take it.

    Did someone say M-O-O-N?!

    Imma cheeky goat, what can I say.
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    Post by dan Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:48 pm

    Resurrection is an integral part of the BPW.......

    Well, resurrection may not be quite correct....... reunion is more like it...... we reach the Omega, and know ourselves for the first time.

    Our errand was into the wilderness of our own soul........ do keep in mind that there is only one, shared cosmic soul.  

    The entire notion of resurrection is overshadowed by that one overwhelmingly fact.  We struggle to maintain the perspective.  

    There is not a survival of our egos....... thank goodness for small mercies.  The survival is of the I Am.  The transition to the I Am is mercifully brief, if you play your cards right...... just follow the light..... try not to get too distracted with the side shows...... and don’t look back, and don’t look down.  

    When you reach the destination, you will have all the time in the world.  

    From the vantage of the I Am, you will have nothing else to do, but be looking back..... and looking down.  

    Every little thing must be absorbed...... into the Metanarrative..... into the cosmic hologram.  

    This is not a solitary task...... there will be ample assistance.  

    A fresh perspective is always needed....... 10^10 times fresh.

    And then you’ll even get to lead the return...... landing party..... never a dull moment.  

    Not to worry...... plot spoiler...... it all works out in the end.  

    But, yes, the entanglement buck must stop 🛑 somewhere.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:57 pm

    Hallelujah!

    I made my own personal discovery.

    In your ease, the barriers come down, and then you are open to love.

    How at eaze do you think that orange turnip iz feelin theze dayz?

    Bahahahahahaha
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:37 am

    Happy safe harbor day.  

    foot is still claiming that there will be no inauguration...... that donny will be able to declare martial law.  

    I will never be able to disown my goddaughter.  

    There might not even be an inauguration.  

    And donny could still do a December surprise...... à là Disclosure, as foot remains enthralled.

    Be my guest, but I will not cooperate.  

    donny does pattern himself as a mob boss, like those he grew up with in NYC.  

    And, yes, he has, hopefully, put the fear of God into the liberals.  

    The liberals, in the meantime, have demonstrated the hollowness of sectarianism........ not to mention secularism.  

    Nature abhors that vacuum, and donny jumped in, head first.  

    It’s time to move on........ foot may be able to change his stripes, he may not.  

    There are a few too many ufologers who will go down with Trump...... that also being a bastion of male whiteness.  

    There are too many Rand Pauls in the world...... but that is because of  the spiritual vacuum that lies at the core of modernism.  

    Too many of us, sapients, are simply political animals...... there is more to life...... than is dreamed of, under their sun..... Chivo can attest to that much.  

    2&3 simply cannot see beyond the social/political trappings of religious practice.  Princess has some understanding of Rumi, but that is about the limit.  Why would she be a guardian?  That particular task is not an academic pursuit.  

    foot claims that her philosophy seminar is ongoing. I have not been invited to participate.



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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:59 am

    The Chicken is in the stew. Time to take off his shoe. Not even clear that he once knew. Perhaps he drank too much brew.
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:06 am

    If foot can spearhead Disclosure through Trump, before or after Inauguration...... more power to him.  

    That will be his playpen....... not little chick 🐥’s.

    My playpen has never been more than the ultimate truth of love.  

    As for philosophy, 2&3 would have a great deal of catching up to do.

    I doubt that they can do a philosophical end run around little chick 🐥....... but, as I say...... more power!

    All is fair in love and the Eschaton.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:20 pm

    Dan wrote:foot is still claiming that there will be no inauguration...... that donny will be able to declare martial law.

    No more gonna happen than the fake Disclosure Apocalypse, I mean anything could happen, but unless Left Foot is gonna stage a coup, ain't happenin.

    And frankly, I ignore anything impersonal you or Left Foot presents.

    Be authentic and sincere or you aren't real.

    Left foot ain't got a clue, no one guides chaos, no god, no human, humorous.

    Let's see, are Dan and Left open to love?

    Are they at ease?

    Or do they stand with the idiot orange turnip?

    If Left Foot is real and loves Trump, well, that makes him an enemy of humanity in the meta-narrative, an agent of the antichrist.

    A force of darkness.

    I just grow flowers and write bad poetry.

    That's kinda dark too I guess Wink

    Shrug.

    I can only stand here, with myself, the only game in town, so, the rest of ya can do as ya like.

    M-O-O-N, that spells Moon.
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:12 pm

    Yes, the issue is whether foot is going to help donny stage a coup.  

    I don’t refuse calls from foot.  Princess refuses to allow me into her alleged philosophy club, which includes Diana P.   I do not disown my goddaughter.

    Chivo believes that we are in the midst of chaos.  Chaos is a clever disguise 🥸 for the outworking of the BPW.  Who can spot the butterfly 🦋 that spawns the hurricane?

    Where is the seed crystal of the Logos...... when the BPW was but a gleam in the eye 👁 of Sophia?  

    There is a back channel to the Monad.  How much would NSA give to have access to those keys 🔑?  Even ShadowBrokers would not know where to begin.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:03 pm

    Looks like smelly goat was right again.

    Supreme court says no to the orange turnip.

    Your only option now left foot is a decapitation move using traitorous police, military and fascist nazi groups who would have to operate at the same time to cut the head off and round up and or kill democratic leaders.

    Let me tell you, that will lead to civil war, period.

    Maybe you and Dan are Russians.

    You are often promoting misinformation.

    Just a thought.

    Here is what I see, democrat and republican ideologues are brainwashed and insane, but the right has gone full evil, FULL EVIL, losing strategy, period.

    The left is much closer to reality.

    Sorry, get over it, get used to it.

    The right has terrible ideas, just awful and so so stupid, where reality takes profound personalism, they are profoundly stupid.

    Given their mental illness, it's heaven or bust.

    That is really a stupid cynical view of life.

    I don't know how to solve that, there is your chaos, it is a perfect setup for love.

    Here is a hint, transcend the contradictions and then you are much closer to reality.

    Trump is a corrosive force, that's needed, no doubt.

    But if you knew you were on the side of the orange idiot, that's really who you respect?

    OK, not my play, but one way to go.

    Why would anyone take a fixed position in an ever changing kosmos = definition of stupid.

    We engineers in software and the cloud know how to build things using Kaizen, that's the only way to solve any problem.

    We follow natural patterns, we are agile, we flow with change.

    Every software process is built on the acceptance of constant change.

    Why can't we run the govt as efficient as I can create solutions?

    Work from where you are, make incremental improvement, Kaizen is the way.

    Those not improving are deluding.


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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:39 pm

    The Ottoman Coffeehouse hosted by the Princess involves one or more academics addressing a set of evolving questions while a larger group of advisors participates virtually. New members are appointed by the Princess but must also be approved by majority vote of existing members. At least one chicken participates in each event, but so far not Chicken Little.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:51 pm

    Dan is pretty smart, of course you don't want him around, he would frustrate you as I frustrate him.

    Your frustration is your help though, you are just too dumb to see it.

    Having a club that only vote ones they like in is the definition of a cult and insular thinkers who have nothing but their own agenda to push, which will will always be evil.

    It sounds like a group of people doing and talking about nonsense, not reality, you all just don't know reality, apparently.

    Where is your authenticity and sincerity?

    The world of muppets, unreal.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:55 pm

    Left foot 🦶 Dan is crazy, so prob best to keep him in his lil chicken cage.

    We don’t need him running around Wink
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    Post by dan Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:31 am

    foot points to the Texas suit against four swing states for voting irregularities.

    He claims that, if the scotus doesn’t take up the case, Texas will attempt to secede from the Union.

    He further claims that Dominion voting systems are used by ‘us’ to fix elections in foreign countries.  

    You might think that, with this information, election officials could have been warned, prior to the election.  

    But foot does not seem concerned about such niceties.  He mainly wants there to be political chaos and rioting.  

    The scotus has enjoined the four states cited in the suit to respond by tomorrow.  In the likely event that the suit is rejected, we will see the degree to which Texas is secession happy.  

    Would Texas not be subject to trade sanctions, as is Iran, for example?

    foot claims that the only external intervention on behalf of donny was the rbg ‘intervention’.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:57 am

    I think they should.

    A house divided cannot stand and these right wingers are just morons.

    Maybe we can break up without blood.

    But this is mainly a symbolic move.
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    Post by hobbit Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:46 am

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/aliens-exist-and-trump-is-keeping-it-secret-in-case-we-panic-claims-israeli-scientist/ar-BB1bMBl5?ocid=msedgdhp


    Why would anyone panic?

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    Post by U Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:07 am

    hobbit wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/aliens-exist-and-trump-is-keeping-it-secret-in-case-we-panic-claims-israeli-scientist/ar-BB1bMBl5?ocid=msedgdhp


    Why would anyone panic?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:12 pm

    UFOs and politics are distractions.
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    Post by skaizlimit Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:33 pm

    The Chicken hates God; he hates all that is Good. The Chicken hates life, promotes the killing of babies. The only Love of the Chicken are Iudaeis occisus est Christus for they hate God and all that is Good.
    The Chicken is evil, deceitful, and despicable. His Small World is his Tomb.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:11 am

    My kind of scum.

    Does the chicken eat babies too?

    Yum.

    We don’t need more people on earth.

    BTW, those who talk about good and evil are insane zealots.

    Personally, I don’t hate god, because god as you seem to understand it doesn’t exist.

    You appear not to be in touch with reality, don’t pick sides.

    They killed a nut cake, not Christ.

    I like nut cake, I wouldn’t have crucified him.

    Laughing.
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    Post by dan Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:01 am

    1800z.......

    As you might gather, Skai presents himself as a radically conservative Catholic, bless his heart...... vastly more conservative than the Pope.


    2340.........

    We have two things going for us....... the ecology of the Metanarrative and Resurrection.  

    I wonder how these might be related concepts?  

    There could just be an Alpha and Omega, but then we have dangling ends of our story.  How do an Alpha and Omega fit into a relational system?  

    The simplest fit would be to have them conjoined, and that’s what we do...... conjoined with the I Am.  


    If the timeline of the Earth defines a real axis, the singularity of the Source would be off of that axis...... a cosmic resonance, as it were.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:58 am

    They are some confused folks, like the Trumpers.

    When you dig in a little under the surface, there are just disgusting things and ideas seething inside them.

    They are of course in great pain.

    So, while I laugh, it is sad that beings who could know love are so consumed by hatred.

    I feel for them, but they are ultimately unreal.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:13 pm

    I have a smelly prediction, let’s see how I do compared to left foot and the chicken.

    I gather I am closer to the source/reality than they are combined, clearly Wink

    They spent more of their lives looking out and not enough within or they would know better.

    So I’ll shame the power and wisdom of the world using this goat 🐐 mask.

    So, there will be a rebellion within the states first.

    The idiots are in the minority.

    They only have their shame and anger an fear.

    Love is stronger, much much greater than all of that.

    So, ultimately, it doesn’t matter what happens.

    This is love.

    So the Supreme Court will deny all this nonsense.

    Trump will then cross the line.

    He will try martial law or get his states to try to secede.

    Then he is a criminal and he will be lucky to not get shot.

    Within every part of our country, the secret hidden hatreds will be exposed.

    There is no way around it, there will be blood.

    Brother will turn against brother and sister against sister and parents against children.

    Whatever happens, this has already happened.

    We have been clearly separated.

    See, that is evil’s power.

    It’s always here.

    And always waiting.

    It waits for the right conditions it brings about, to surge.

    The only goal is total destruction and separation.

    Trump is the true physical embodiment of that evil.

    And those who serve him are evil.

    All those Christians following him are the ones revelation says delude themselves.

    They’ll never accept it, it will be death for the true believer.  

    Only the one willing to be wrong will live.

    That’s ok.

    Evil is no better or worse than the good.

    Only the transcended know this.

    But, sticking with this insane simulated unreality, after the state rebellions...we will see who is left standing.

    Bottom line, trump should be arrested, right now.

    Barr with the military should go and arrest him.

    He is a clear and present danger.

    Those in congress and the states aiding him must be arrested, right now.

    Then Biden must send the military into the land.

    The evil must be cordoned off now that they have revealed themselves.

    Putin is who trump works for, he’s the true antichrist.

    Trump is the mask 😷 , the fool.

    Russia may try an incursion to support trump.

    So if the Galactic Federation is out there, you fucked this all up.

    Come and look 👀 up the smelly goat 🐐 and we can talk.

    I will speak for humanity.

    No problemz, happy to help.

    The rest are obviously insane.

    I am insane and sane.

    Good nor evil wins.

    Love wins.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:36 pm

    Dreamcatcher...

    Scooby Doobie Do

    We got some work to do now!



    “All coherence made out from madness does not un-make the wisdom of nothing.”

    To bee is to deceive.

    We are all selfish rascals.
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    Post by dan Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:39 am

    1540z........

    It seems clear that the Inauguration will go forward...... that there will not be riots, except possibly on the right.  

    What then will be the path of Disclosure?  

    There will be less focus on the White House.  

    (D)isclosure will look more like (d)isclosure.  

    There will be a continuing erosion of the scientific worldview.  

    foot 🦶 may have to change his stripes vis a vis little chick 🐥..... becoming either more or less engaged.  

    As science continues to lose its cultural clout, philosophy is liable to make a comeback.  

    Religion.......?

    It is liable to become more polarized into scriptural vs spiritual.  

    Psychedelic experience will continue to play a larger role.  

    The 800# gorilla 🦍 in the room is, of course, the Eschaton.  

    Gradually, folks will realize that disclosure is going to be a package 📦 deal that includes the Eschaton....... and the special delivery 🚚 is not coming from outer space 🪐.  


    1640..........

    When it comes to cosmology, the Mandelbrot will be the mathematical counterpart of the Metanarrative.  

    The brots are the persons, and the background is everything outside of the brots.  

    The Mandelbrot background is the mathematical glue that is holding the Monad together.  

    Understand that the background often appears in psychedelic experience.  

    We may take the background as impersonal and the brots as persons.  



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    Post by painterdoug Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:56 pm

    Hi Dan and friends, just checking in and saying hello. some interesting days we live. Be well and safe into 2021.

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