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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:29 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Bjc could stand for lots of things.  It’s possible to suppose that it stands Baltimore Junior College.  It’s possible to suppose that c stands for chick, which is short for chicken.  

    Talk about a pink slip, yesterday, puts me in mind of being laid off, which puts me in mind of a retrospective.........

    And a topic header does require at least ten characters.......

    The allotted length for a thread is 40 pages...... giving us a chance to take the occasional breather...... as the show goes on.


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    Post by hobbit Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:23 pm

    Foresaperire wrote:There is an anesthesiologist (*hint), Dr Stuart Hammerhoff who has collaborated with physicist Roger Penrose (who just won a Nobel Prize last week in physics) on a theory of consciousness, postulating that the DNA of cells act as antennas to download information stored in the universal field of information, Christians call it ‘The Book of Life’ , the Hindus call it the Akashi Field, Ervin Laszlo calls it the A Field and has written several books about it, Laszlo is the best known general systems theorist in the world, has been nominated for a Nobel Prize twice and runs a global think tank in Italy.

    I have been many years trying to come to terms with My dowsing abilities.
    It is akin to a transmitter and receiver function where I radio out to who or whatever and receive back.

    I can attune instantly to whoever or whatever I focus upon.

    I have concentrated for years upon the lattice matrix and the consciousness flowing upon it, I have thus become at one with the serpents ( as such)
    And can recognise what all past civilizations have tried to explain about this system, it has helped been uneducated ( no indoctrination) as I have no programming fighting to be correct and thus blocking open access to universal consciousness information.


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    Post by hobbit Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:40 pm



    Universe is a sea of consciousness, it is omni present , but has a duality of spin that chases itself at all scale in a 720 degree heart centred field.
    The scale element is detectable at our scale via dowsing.
    Your vehicle is a multitude of these , a countless multitude all contained within an overall field, as is the planet, as is the sun, as is the galaxy....add infirnitum.




    When you recognise any scale, You know all scale, and if You tune across dimensions naturally and not via other living entities encoded information fields You can contact Your eternal self, it is You, not some god.

    5d is not describable it is so fabulous and colourful with sounds beyond explanation, it is over powering in LOVE.

    I HAVE NEVER SMOKED A CIGARETTE NEVER MIND ANY MUSHROOMS OR SUCH, that leads to a slightly false reality relative whatever is smoked or inhaled.

    I have had long conversations with My 5D self, but it is difficult to repeat enough of the information to hold it here in my limited field, much as remembering dreams, which are trips across into 4D.

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    Post by GSB Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:56 pm

    Gary,

    The only real question is whether this phenomenon is extraterrestrial or inter dimensional.  

    And, if it is the latter, what are the eschatological implications?


    Or -- perhaps -- the inter-dimensional aspect is the Internet of 'things' the extraterrestrials left behind ... and should one get plugged in and discover the key, and access the dimensions ...

    Then yes, there certainly would be eschatological implications.


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    Post by U Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:00 pm

    GSB wrote:Gary,

    The only real question is whether this phenomenon is extraterrestrial or inter dimensional.  

    And, if it is the latter, what are the eschatological implications?


    Or -- perhaps -- the inter-dimensional aspect is the Internet of 'things' the extraterrestrials left behind ... and should one get plugged in and discover the key, and access the dimensions ...

    Then yes, there certainly would be eschatological implications.

    You sound like CF, old man.

    Those Pods are abominations and one day soon they'll be reopened and those trapped within set free.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:12 pm

    A catholic trumper friend of mine sent this to me trying to sway me from my way of ease.

    The pods are not the point.

    Pay attention.

    I had simply asked him one question.

    Who is this guy to show up now.

    I have no arguments.

    He wanted to chat offline because I wouldn’t argue with him.

    He said all my arguments went in circles.

    Haha.

    Indeed muppet.

    I met him at my new job.

    I asked him...

    Why have you chosen a fixed position in a quantum dynamic ever changing world?

    Then he asked me what I think of this?



    The foolish man says Christ or Chaos?

    So this is where the edge of the church is now.

    Soldiers.

    Ready to fight.

    My mind sees this is a militant Christianity preached by a disturbed man.

    It always has been this way.

    One fanatic after another captivates the sheep.  

    My reaction to this is...the smelly goat has no fight with them or any.

    I don’t think my friend will like my answer Wink

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:15 pm

    Foresaperire wrote:There is an anesthesiologist (*hint), Dr Stuart Hammerhoff who has collaborated with physicist Roger Penrose (who just won a Nobel Prize last week in physics) on a theory of consciousness, postulating that the DNA of cells act as antennas to download information stored in the universal field of information, Christians call it ‘The Book of Life’ , the Hindus call it the Akashi Field, Ervin Laszlo calls it the A Field and has written several books about it, Laszlo is the best known general systems theorist in the world, has been nominated for a Nobel Prize twice and runs a global think tank in Italy.

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    Post by U Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:34 pm

    You acknowledge the Pods?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:38 am

    I will say for myself...

    I accept no pods.

    Smelly goat has no fight with anything.

    Now if a pod wants to stop by and introduce itself politely, I’d say hello.

    I will never take anyone’s word for anything.

    That means whatever they experienced was in their frame, not mine.

    Is a pod any more incredible than breathing?

    Could seeing a pod moving fast, compare to a bowler’s strike?!

    Seeing a pod move faster than we have experienced first hand would cause me to consider that someone has some fun toys.

    They didn’t destroy our planes yet.

    As far as we know.

    We won’t ever know the real story second hand.

    Same for Jesus.

    Sorry fanatics.

    Can’t reason with fanatics.

    Can you reason with a pod?

    How about a princess?

    Fanatics tend to burn themselves out fairly quickly.

    But I am amazed how they can set fires that burn for 1000s of years.

    Oh wait, we were talking about pods in the air.

    God’s tic tacs.

    Does god have bad breath?
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    Post by dan Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:05 am

    1300z..........

    Please excuse me for interrupting this wonderful conversation about pods......

    But I would like to get back McKenna and Muraresku (M&M), if you don’t terribly mind.....

    The basic idea is that Jesus was a drug pusher...... until the FDA came along and cut off his source....... now the only thing the Xians can do is smoke their Bibles.  

    I’m not going to argue that someone didn’t spike the Communion punch bowl...... nor that witches never smoked pot.  

    Ok, but what am I saying.......?

    I’m not saying that Newton never drank the Tea 🍵.......

    But, drama 🎭 lovers 💗, I’m neither an atheist nor a materialist.  

    chick 🐥 is a personalist.  

    M&M are also personalists...... they just haven’t quite connected the dots, yet....... but they will...... they have all the time in the world.  

    smelly and hobbit are also personalists, and so are you, dear reader.....

    Every person is a personalist...... kinda by default.  

    But, gosh, we sure do struggle to avoid the obvious.  

    Especially, we try to change the subject...... change the channel...... why don’t we try dowsing a pod...... and talk to our 5D selves....... just for the heck of it?  

    If you’re a personalist, you don’t have much choice but to believe in the primordial cosmic observer...... the I Am.  

    Yes, the I Am is the Logos Spermatikos.  

    Logos = Love...... just in case you didn’t get the memo 📝.  

    Jesus got the memo 📝...... big time.  

    That’s all.  

    We can take that all the way back to Monadnock 🏔.

    Of course, Santa santa and Jesus might not actually exist.  

    chick 🐥 might not actually exist.  

    But persons do........ and, in the End, we will love one another.  

    That will be buddy’s Big Love.

    That’s all.  


    1430..........

    I hope I don’t have to be a meany, and cut off discussion if it does not obviously 🙄 pertain to persons.  

    But, if someone wishes to push that envelope ✉........

    If someone asks my religion, I say that I’m a jguy freak.  

    If someone asks what I know, I say that I’m a person freak.  

    No one else here has the gumption to either challenge or support that view.  

    I’m looking at you, Chivo........ tell us that you’re not a person.  

    I’m looking at the rest of you, my friends......... please tell us whether or not you are a person....... or....... STFU.  

    If you refuse to address this question, that’s it.......

    You are outta here.......!!!  

    No exceptions, Chivo....... no more grandfathers 👴🏾.  


    1620..........

    Then we come to the question of whether donny is a personalist.  

    Well, I have another question for you........

    Does donny know that chick 🐥 is a personalist?

    If he does not, we may blame foot 🦶.  

    Let it be known that foot 🦶 is not a personalist.  

    Will foot be the exception that proves the above rule?

    He may be.  

    donny thinks that he should get away with murder...... and so do many of his followers.  

    I believe that donny is the biggest threat to personalism, in the world.  

    foot is granted license to assassinate anyone in the world besides the POTUS.  

    It might come to the point that I would feel compelled to advocate the assassination of the POTUS.  

    Let’s hope that it won’t come to that.  

    If donny is fairly voted 🗳 out of office, and he refuses to vacate the White House, that could constitute grounds for his assassination.  

    That incident might spark a civil war.  

    Then what?

    The portals would then open, as prophesied.



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    Post by Foresaperire Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:50 am



    ..........


    Fores,

    Kindly state your position with regard to the ontology of persons.  

    Thank you,

    Dan

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    Dan, why are you continuing to go into my posts, edit them (disabling the images and videos I post), and leave your comments...?


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    Post by hobbit Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:24 pm

    October surprise?

    outube]rCybWf1g9K8[/youtube]

    It would be a surprise if Obama , Clintons and Biden were in the clink at election time.

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    Post by dan Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:03 pm

    hobbit,

    Are you interfering in our election?

    There is nothing wrong with that, just on the face of it. I might wish to express my opinion on Boris Johnson.

    However, if I were to use fake news to that end, I would be inviting personal censure.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:22 pm

    My being is not dependent on me knowing what a person is.

    I do unto others, as I would have them do to me.

    I do not need to use conceptions of life being a person.

    I live this.

    No words about persons are true really.

    I say we think and talk as little as possible about this.

    We can’t convince each other of anything, really.

    No one thinks the same really about anything.

    We can force and coerce.

    Propaganda is offensive to persons.

    Trying to get people to think the same is offensive.

    But we can be ourselves and all share our piece of being.

    Being a person is a whole other set of false problems.

    Being here is best.
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    Post by dan Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:51 pm

    2050z..........

    Chivo,

    Thank you for expressing your views on the status......... or the non-status of persons.  

    For the most part, I disagree with you.

    I ask you, Eric, do you believe that every person has the potential to become one with the Source?

    If you do not believe in this human potential, I believe that you are breaching you responsibility as a human to your fellow humans.  

    Anyone who breaches that human trust cannot be trusted to participate fairly in any discussion that concerns his fellow humans.


    2230.........

    Allow me to restate.........

    If Eric Garza is not explicitly open to the possibility that he and every other person has the potential to become one with the Source, he has no business participating in discussions concerning his fellow humans.  

    Are we being perfectly clear, Eric?  


    2300...........

    Donald Trump has a pre-existing condition.......

    He is a narcissistic sociopath.  

    Or he has, for his entire life, been performing an extremely convincing simulation of the stated condition.  



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:20 pm

    Smelly and Dan are already merged.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:19 pm

    Wink

    Potential is obvious with silence and I am always realizing it living this here now.

    I do not listen to my thoughts.

    My feelings nor my thoughts direct my actions usually, they sneak in some attacks now and then and I chide them like the children they are.

    Now now, behave.

    So it is a bit of a mystery who is driving, but not one I trouble myself about.

    This is the mind learning to ride along with the body and the body high fivin tha mind.

    Hey, we can do this, all together now.

    I do not need to know what a person is or define it.

    I interact with what appears.

    I have no idea why or what or when this or my being appears here.

    I don't know why they appear to think and feel and speak and act like me.

    They are fun to play with.

    They seem bothered by silly things.

    They seem stuck to these things called truth and faith, invisible to me.

    But I know neither is real for me, for them, they may be real in mind.

    But these things make them act and speak in funny ways.

    I do not recognize a source other than the egg and sperm and womb of my Father and Mother and what we appear in and the world that appears to sustain me.

    I have a mind, are there minds with no bodies I wonder sometimes.

    If you call all this our source, then we are already here.

    I can't speak to merging with anything, sounds gross but tantalizing.

    I have no work, what I do is always play.

    I have responsibility, that's just for play, to show stupid muppets who they are and I do that, that's my game.

    I am always willing to share what I have, which is nothing.

    If someone thinks they have something, I know it is nothing, so nothing is any big fuss, why can't others make this jump more easily.

    Why are they so susceptible to thought?

    If you have nothing, you don't have any problems either.

    Much as they try, they just won't stick.

    You know what sticks, my ease is always waiting for me to return.

    My source is my ease and no one can take it away or give me more of it.

    They can only find their own.

    Ease seems sparse in this world, but that is only our great misunderstanding.

    It is you and your ilk who can't be trusted, those who do not appear to know themselves, cause they only talk about these mythic other persons.

    Never about their lives, which is all they can speak about, but that is the muppet game.

    You have appeared to breach your own self integrity and you are in a high danger situation.

    I'm not.

    I'm the danger.

    Allow me to restate Dan "chickie" Smith, any one fool muppet tryin tell you what is going to happen, has no business participating in discussions concerning his fellow humans.

    They should be isolated and allowed to mumble until they die.

    For they have nothing to offer, hey, like me.

    So I guess as we both have nothing to offer, nothing is needed to be done.

    Pretty neat and easy to end ignorance.

    Look into thyself, the source of all your confusion.

    And if you think you can push me around like the rest, ha, fat chance ole man.

    I know how this ends, death, all of us, no one gettin out alive as much as you beg and dream and plead.

    Now that brings me great satisfaction.

    You can ban me and be done with it.

    I win either way.

    You are only in your own way.

    I don't know who the F you think you are, not a person to me.

    You ain't abidin with ease, the only source you are ever gonna be close to.

    There is yet one Human Being here and those are just symbols we made up to describe this, which no one understands.

    Are we being perfectly clear, Dan Smith?
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    Post by dan Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:04 pm

    Chivo,

    I thank you for your cogent response.

    I gather, then, that the notion that you might be the soulmate of the ~10^10 other persons in the world is simply gibberish to you.

    I believe that your alleged lack of ideals is mainly just a posture that you assume for your own amusement.

    I, for one, am growing tired of this particular form of amusement.

    If there are others here who wish to continue this amusement, I do ask you and them to ply this business on one of Eric’s own threads, please.

    This is not to say that I have not, nor could not, continue to benefit from some of your observations.

    I have, and would hope to continue to benefit, but, please, just not on this particular thread.

    I thank you very much.



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    Podilcious!
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    Post by GSB Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:04 am

    Nature is fundamentally impersonal except at the higher emergent level of sentient being. Humans have often personalized the impersonal aspect of reality to confront it when it impacts the emergent level (emergency). Does the coronavirus have a conscience? Does donny?


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    Post by dan Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:00 am

    1500z........

    Gary,

    Thank you for bringing up the issue of personhood and personalism.  

    I believe that this is the first time you have done so, in all our years together on both OMF1 and OMF2.

    I began participating on OMF1 in 2006.  

    Your question, however, demonstrates a deep misunderstanding of the doctrine of Personalism......

    The most fundamental aspect of personalism is the positing of mind over matter.  

    This is a very radical thesis, Gary....... so radical that you have simply blocked it from your mind, either wittingly or not.  

    However, it is an historical fact that most people belong to cultures that explicitly subscribe to this view........

    In most Eastern cultures the concept of Māyā prevailed, whereby appearance is, by its very nature, deceptive...... it is an illusion.  

    Before modernism, the rest of the world subscribed to theism, wherein Creation manifested the will of a personal deity.  


    1600.........

    hobbit,

    Thank for addressing the foundational issue of the BPWH section.

    When I used the phrase ‘mind over matter’, I was only speaking in a colloquial sense....... I was not implying any sort of ontological dualism.



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    Post by hobbit Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:46 am

    It is not "mind over matter"

    It is consciousness in abundance empowering the alteration of matter into the desire outcome/s.

    Lets say by thinking of loaves of bread, thus there will be loaves of bread.

    No thing exists except as a local memory, consciousness enables the memory, input a different memory and there it will be, but a vast amount of consciousness is required.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:26 pm

    Dan doesn’t want to play with Consciousness.

    Nature is impersonal/aloof they say.

    Person and Human Being are the same placeholder for this.

    We do not exist apart from anything.

    Where is the distinction between nature and this?

    I’m saying the ideas of personal and impersonal are not adequate.

    You all are living in your word boxes.

    Maybe stop and come out and play outside of your self described boxes?

    Dan has a very serious situation under discussion, involving souls and sources and persons and portals and such, which I have no thoughts about.

    No, I do not recognize anything pressing or serious about your discussion Dan.

    I think you are making it all up.

    But you can’t play with that.

    I do not posture, I have no ideals, they are dead. I guess that leaves me to go where I like at play in the mind of god.

    I leave you all to your own considerations as Dan requests.
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    Post by dan Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:14 pm

    I believe that we will all be disappointed to lose Eric/Chivo’s talent.  

    But, I equally believe that we are facing a human predicament that needs to be sorted, but which Eric is unwilling to address.  

    We need to sort out whether we are here by accident or not.  

    Eric is not even willing to address this issue.  

    So, yes, Eric and I are like two ships passing in the night.  

    But, yes, I believe that Eric has been our best possible smelly goat 🐐, at the best possible time.  


    Gary,

    Nature is impersonal.........?

    Yes, the modern, scientific assumption is that the personal emerged from the impersonal.  

    That may be true, but I, for one, am willing to look our scientific gift horse in the mouth.  

    I find that there are very ample grounds to disagree with modernism, on this score.  

    Further, I strongly believe that the fate of humanity is likely to hinge on this point.  

    If I turn out to be wrong, I don’t give much credence to a future for humanity.

    Yes, I’m saying this as an eschatologist.  

    I see our impending Eschaton as embedded in Eternity.  

    We will come out of it........ on the other side of Eternity..... which is exactly where we ‘started’.  

    The closed timelike curve (CTC) that we call history is embedded in Eternity.  

    Every moment of time is a microcosm of Eternity...... just as you and I are microcosms of the Source/Telos.  

    Just as atoms without space would make no sense, neither would persons make sense without an interpersonal....... something.  There can’t be a foreground without a background.  

    Either we are a mere epiphenomenon of Nature, or Nature is our logically necessary background.  

    The starting point of my odyssey into personalism, was my encounter with the Anthropics Principal, back in 1975.

    It is surprising how long it took scientists to stumble upon the AP.



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    Post by dan Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:10 am

    1310zulu..........

    So the chick 🐥 has finally put his foot down concerning personalism, and the only exception will be foot 🦶, and that is just for the time being.  

    Yes, and Donald Trump was the best possible narcissistic sociopath for President.

    I sure hope that his time is up.

    donny has shaken up the system........ good.

    But now he wants to tear down the system........ bad.  

    We’re not ready to tear down the system.  

    There are too many sociopaths running around.  

    We can’t tear down the system without Disclosure.  

    We can’t tear down the system until the Truth has seen the light of day.  

    Right now, we need to tear down Donald Trump.  

    Then we will see where we go next.  

    Then we’ll need to see about opening the portals.  Donald had his chance with portals, but he blew it.  

    It may come down to Amy Barrett.  

    If she is voted onto the Court, she must decide any close election calls against Trump, and then resign her seat as soon as he is safely out of office.  

    If she is able to do that, and, if I were Joe Biden, I would then renominate her.  


    Now, John Allegro makes a fair case for Jesus being an historical amalgam.  I see no problem with that possibility.  

    I would still be a Jesus freak.  

    I further see no point, however, in playing up the Amalgam Hypothesis, unless, perchance, it would help to disentangle the person from the Bible.  

    I consider myself to be part of the Jesus Amalgam, and, like Amy, I’m capable of being my own Person.  

    We are all getting ready to be part of the I Am Amalgam.  

    Hey, I like the ring of that........ the IAA.....

    Ok, the IAA Hypothesis....... IAAH.  We could even call it the IsAiAh hypothesis.  

    That’s how we’re gonna spell our Final Participation.  


    1600.......

    So, who is IsAiAh?

    IsAiAh is the best possible person.  

    IsAiAh is eternal.  

    IsAiAh hears everyone of our prayers.  

    How do I know this?

    I know this because I know that I am a part of this cosmic amalgam.  

    How do I know this?

    I know this because it’s the only thing that makes a lick of sense.  

    I know this because I know that this is the best possible world.  

    I know this because I know that we are not an accident.  

    That’s all.  


    2145...........

    We are not an accident because the universe is not an accident....... as indicated by the Anthropic Principal (AP).  

    And/or as indicated by the mind-body problem.  

    And/or as indicated by the paranormal..... by altered states of consciousness, etc...........

    I believe that we could go on with this line of proof, ad infinitum.  

    To suppose, instead, that we are a composite of atoms swerving in the void seems.......... increasingly far fetched.

    No? Please enlighten us.



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    Post by Foot Mann Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:01 pm

    No beak to Peck, no spurs to Scratch, the Chicken is not Real. Failed to Disclose, holds up his Nose, while the sky falls at his feet. He failed us all, POTUS most of all, now his world is truly Small. While Cheese rises high, waving briskly Good Night All, before heading to the Hive. Will the chicken recover, some of us wonder, or will he continue to blunder?

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