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I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......

And the moon is the Monad, we imagine....... she will have us, in the End.

1355z..........

All of the ancient empires made serious dents in tribalism, but it wasn’t until the jguy came along that tribalism was put to the s-word of Truth.  Science and capitalism were the last hurrah of that s-word..... up until the MoAPS........ for which science and capitalism made straight the way.  

In the prophetic tradition, Judaism remains a tribal phenomenon, and Islam shows itself to remain highly susceptible..... as Middle Eastern politics often demonstrates.  

Christianity is by no means immune to the tribal phenomenon, but is similar to Buddhism...... being at the low end of that scale.  

It took the jguy’s s-word to carve ourselves out from our respective tribes.  

The world has been amply prepared for the MoAPS....... we are prepared to move forward into our final participation, with communalism supplanting tribalism.  

Shamans used to serve as the tribal portals...... personal magicians that they were.  

Now it is nationalism and state capitalism that have run amok...... often using state controlled shamans...... Rasputins.... Bannons, as it were.  Some form of gnosticism or Masonry was often found in conjunction with democracy.

Truth has fallen victim to a thousand cuts.

Disclosure is now set for a global roll out, even if it proceeds just by word of mouth...... at the speed of light...... the endless/global zoom meeting.

Tyrants will simply be blown away.  

Business as usual will be swept away, as if by a pandemic.  


1500........

The portals will open...... slowly at first, but then with an increasing momentum..... as the Truth dawns...... as to who we really are.  

Scientific materialism will just be a balloon ...... one portal prick, and it’s all gone.  

The social facade of scientific materialism is secular humanism/modernism....... a covering that is a mile wide and an inch deep.  


1600.........

The high water mark of scientific materialism was approximately 1951, when Quine pointed to the dictionary problem that was infecting philosophical analysis, and thereby popping the balloon of logical empiricism...... inaugurating our long slide into the chaotic pluralism of postmodernism.



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True philosophy is lived.

Dan certainly has an opinion.

So do I.

For me...

Be like the rock taking the crashing waves.

“Relax, nothing is under control.”

It doesn’t matter what is happening.

Be ready.

Final participation enables communal living.

Of course we must live communally.

But we take our outward queues from the apparent savagery of nature as well.

We killed all the mammoths.

We killed all the big cats.

We killed the buffalo.

We are as good a killer as nature ever made.

Part of our mind maintains our killer instincts.

While we feel a pull to relaxation inside.

An apparent paradox.

We are lazy killers.

We move when we need to.

Humans don’t have to eat meat.

In a way meat is the connection to the killer.

We can’t be led by any central authority.

There is no authority.

Our authority has always been based on the law of the jungle.

The strongest lead.

Or most cunning.

Often the strongest is moved by the cunning.

What is this cunning?

It's strange how some information suddenly appears just at the right time?
As if guided by devine hands?

A devine comedy?.

I never realised that the drawing cerobus by William Blake was to illustrate Dantes inferno

NINE layers.

Poor old Dante had to go through pergatory to climb the mountain to heaven.

Kevin

1830.........

El Chivo,

Was the jguy a central authority?  

Does might make right?  

The jguy was adopted as the mascot of modernism....... I do apologize for that.  

It’s fair to say that the jguy had a far greater influence on the rise of modernism than anyone else.  There is simply no competition.  

It was not difficult to hijack the jguy and turn him into an icon of modernism.  

The dualism of the jguy leads directly to the dualism of Descartes..... there is no doubt..... which, in turn, led directly to scientific materialism.  I could mention individualism and the Protestant work ethic, etc....... the list goes on and on......

The jguy ripped the cover right off of human potential.  If there ever was an opening of a Pandora’s Box, this was it.  

For the last two thousand years, there has been an attempt to put that cat back in the bag.  

It has almost succeeded...... especially with scientific materialism.  

The jguy was not mystical enough for most mystics.  

Thank goodness for that.

He was here on a mission.  Two thousand years later, that mission is just one zoom meeting away from being accomplished.  

Yes, the mystics never quite realized that we were sitting on a time bomb ....... just waiting for the cosmic trigger.

Ok...... the jguy was a mystic with a mission..... a dangerous combination...... like mixing glycerin with nitric acid.  

Christianity has been running on a long fuse.  The fuse has come to its end.  That’s what j16 is all about.  That’s what the MoAPS is all about.  

All it would take at this point is for donny to go bye bye...... foot would be forced to go preemptive.  Presumably, this would be after the election...... a December surprise...... with the economy failing to gain traction.  


2000.......

My dad wrote the book...... https://www.amazon.com/Deficits-Depressions-Dan-Throop-Smith/dp/B0070P7XYE

You can’t buy your way out of a depression.  

All it took was a world war.



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My dad wrote the book...... https://www.amazon.com/Deficits-Depressions-Dan-Throop-Smith/dp/B0070P7XYE

You can’t buy your way out of a depression.

All it took was a world war.

Dan, how about giving us the Smithian Reader's Digest condensed version summary of your dad's book, in the context of the current crisis (or "then and now" analysis)?

There was this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/tax/stories/top110997.htm

2350z........

Thank you, Gary,

I think I already gave you the thumbnail version......... a depression is as much psychological as it is economic.  


0215.........

Our confidence in ‘heroic materialism’ is likely to be a thing of the past.......

People weren't always into Heroic Materialism. The 18th century (just preceding the Industrial Revolution in the 1780s) was known as an age of aesthetic sophistication. The focus then was making life more artistic and subtle, rather than expressing our ability to manipulate unprecedented volumes of steel and concrete.

 

Once gone, it’s likely to stay gone, as we move on to other concerns.  



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Does cunning make right?

I don't think so.

Hiding is evil.

The perennial and shamanic traditions do see Christ.

I do not believe we were born into sin.

I do not believe in sin.

That is a slave concept meant to contain you.

I do not believe anything died for me.

I will die for me, thank you.

I do not believe anything really.

My opinion is he didn't rise from the dead.

My opinion is christ is psychic force/archetype and lives in our unconscious or is one face of the unconscious.

There is no authority who needs to pay anything for me or can enslave me.

If nature made us broke, then we are broke.

They don't know Jesus.

Neither do you nor I.

So let's talk about us and our experience please.

Let's be personal.

Christians are materialists.

All speaking about authority was added after Jesus to keep the muppets quiet.

A noble lie.

A lie so good, every christian believes mostly in the lie.

But all religions are basically materialistic.

Their cores though are all about the perennial philosophy.

Your faith in this, not a noble lie, requires the participation of your reason to activate the portal.

Faith opens nothing, alone it is nothing but a cocoon.

The MOAPS is the connecting of reason and intuition.

Living a whole life.

Science can watch, but it certainly isn't driving this car as much as it wants to.

Nothing is.

Science is simply the nerd in the front seat describing all it sees.

My opinions anyway.

It can say nothing about this experience except my body is involved, a very very limited tool science.  

The scientists have their religion too.

They see only with one eye, not with the whole being.

The religious deny this world.

That is why they are lost.

0230......

Your figuration of the jguy is in line with that of many xians....... a cartoon figure.  

If there were a God who chose to incarnate, she might have chosen worse.  

Start there, and stick with the basics...... don’t go playing your mother with us.  

We are not your mother.

God’s job is to play hide and seek with us, and she does it rather well, as even you so persistently testify.  


Hiding is evil.......?

Hiding and seeking is a game, and you are an extremely poor sport, my little friend.  


Nature didn’t make us anything.

We make nature....... as the best possible backdrop to our game of hiding from our...... almighty selves.  


You are right....... the jguy didn’t die for our sins.  

He died to set up the SoT/x2....... the drama of the history of our looking for love in all the wrong places.  

God died so that we could become one with God..... by realizing our infinite potential.  Persons are necessarily, essentially, infinite beings  

Your faith in this, not a noble lie, requires the participation of your reason to activate the portal.

...... out of the mouths of babes come words of wisdom.  


The ‘religions’ deny the world.......?  

Au contraire, mon ami.........

The religions keep us down on the farm, until the stage has been set to open the portals.  The Earth is our pressure cooker.  The top is about to blow.  

Just sayin’........ business as usual has gone bye, bye .......



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Hiding is evil

Come out

Come out

Wherever you are

You have no idea how to play hide and seek with a smelly goat my senile friend.

Just sayin

BOO!

El Chivo,

There will not be a Revelation until we understand the nature and necessity of the Concealment.  

The Truth will come out...... it is just a matter of the timing.  

You, who deny history, are in no position to be a judge of the timing.  

What we call nature is a major part of the Concealment.  

Nature is a half silvered mirror.  It is also a veil between our egos and our infinite, transcendent selves......

For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Like going from a dark room into the bright Sun, it will take time for our eyes to adjust.


1340........

Without the Concealment, there would be no space for the word of mouth....... for the WoM/MoAPS....... thus may we gain a herd immunity against the shock of total Revelation.



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El Chivo wrote:Perhaps you did help in severing that connection.

I had to totally disconnect, they could not even smell the smelly goat.

It was the most painful event of my life.

It made my victory over myself sound hollow.

We had grown close through our very chaotic lives.

I would never have learned what I have or appreciated what true love means.

I hear some saying there is really no such thing as love.

That is a broken person imho.

I only know love.

Everything else was a mirage.

It turns out this was all that was really true.

I only speak from my own view.

I do not proclaim a truth, I can only say I am humbled and accept the love that is all around and inside me.

Can you feel this moon?

It pulls on you.

Gravity...

There is no GRAVITY.

There is consciousness that permeates all, enables all, everything is alive, every pebble is alive, the moon is alive, it is not pulling on You, it is the interaction between living fields of consciousness, and there is this duality often called light and dark.

We have a moment in time here and now where the dark has become overloaded in these power crazed demons who are lost if they are not in control of the light.

The light always wins, and as far as this little hobbit is concerned I will not stand aside and sit looking prison walls that this darkness wants to lock everyone in, I have a sword in My hands that is from the light, I operate symbiotically with that light, and view as cowards those who do not stand up, man up to the darkness.

So any amount of ridicule or abuse will not keep Me down, I will stand up again and again and again and shine the light on this scourge of demonic beings that have manifested so solidly in such as gates and that weasel fauchi.

We are all ca[able of attaining that light, it is omni present and flowing everywhere.

Hobbit

Good old hobbit,

Bless his pagan soul.  

He doesn’t understand the Source of light.  He would deify the Sun, as did the Egyptians.  

He would dance around the Beltane fires , as did the Druids.

He would herald the dawn of the Enlightenment, as did the Philosophes...... pagans in academic robes.  

No, hobbit. Even smelly understands that the Kingdom is within.

The only true light is within....... from the cosmic Self, which is our one true self....... the mice do play, while the Cat is away.

hobbit woke up one morning, and caught a glimpse of his image, in the mirror on Nature. Just like the god, Narcissisus, he fell in love with the image, ultimately drowning in the reflection.

hobbit still just sees through the glass, darkly. Open your inner eyes, hobbit.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A_TYt7icIo&fbclid=IwAR0Wge3tWUcE89HyjIdodsnxwZVr9MxtfTz0CBaFjLKF6qd-5YIJkylqeQM

Good that there are real Americans still.

Kevin...off to LIGHT a fire

1530.......

The Future of Christianity Is Punk
Modern life is ugly, brutal and barren. Maybe you should try a Latin Mass...... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/opinion/sunday/weird-christians.html


1610.......

Pagans were highly communal...... hardly any individuals.  

Tribal life has been shattered by the onslaught of modernism.  Folks cling to the remnants of clans...... in the Middle East, in Brooklyn, in parts of Pennsylvania, in the jungles of Amazonia, etc......

Meantime, the fragile shell of modernism is suffering a thousand cuts.  

The explosive atomization that was individualism is running out of steam....... it begins to implode back upon itself.  Thus do we have the reemergence of nationalism, etc.......


Kevin/hobbit speaks of the implosion of consciousness that is atoms and stars....... surely it is also us.  

But chick wonders....... I wonder about the alleged panpsychism.....

What is it up to? Is it always in constant, chaotic flux...... no rhyme.... no reason? Is it just cycles within cycles...... endlessly convoluted?



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The time is always now now now

dan wrote:Good old hobbit,

Bless his pagan soul.  
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hobbit still just sees through the glass, darkly.  Open your inner eyes, hobbit.  

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You have such an imagination, You should write a book like Alice in wonderland.

Hobbit

That police officer is confused hobbit.

You sound like a russian agent.

Russian and other countries misinformation is everywhere.

Idiots believe them.

That cop is the enemy of freedom.

These people pursuing their own false rights at all costs is idiotic.

They were being tyrannical before the pandemic, now this fake nationalism is laughable.

This is a disease.

Making it a civil rights issue is stupid.

They think Trump is for them?!

My god the ignorance and stupidity at work in their small minds and closed hearts.

Put your arms down.

Disband the armies.

Americans are morons.

Love your neighbor as yourself?

They don't know Jesus, this is a cult, period.

A nationalist false religion.

Wake up.

They want to avoid communalism cause then they can't exploit us as easily.

Keep them individually separated and anxious unless we can control their groups they scheme.

That age is over.

Time to face the music.

Time to learn not to take offense at violation of fake self proclaimed rights.

We have no rights and they have no authority.

You have to earn your life through focus.

Otherwise, one is just a conspicuously consuming moron muppet.

**MUAH**

El Chivo wrote:That police officer is confused hobbit.

You sound like a russian agent.

Russian and other countries misinformation is everywhere.
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We have no rights and they have no authority.

You have to earn your life through focus.

Otherwise, one is just a conspicuously consuming moron muppet.

**MUAH**

Comrade,
You have Me at a disadvantage as I have never met a "Russian agent", which You declare I sound like.

Have You met such?

"That cop is an enemy of freedom"

I find that equally confusing as He has raised His head above the parapet in an effort to protect freedom from oppression, as He determines such to be.

I agree that if everyone just watched the flowers grow and be at one with them would be truly free, but theirs tigers in the flower gardens.

hobbit off to paint My house red.

1435z........

El Chivo ,

Chick agrees that Kevin is being a very superficial hobbit.  

It is a superficial hobbit going after a superficial state.  

If you want to be truly subversive, you have to look beneath the surface.......

You have to look at the ontology of the State.  

hobbit is very concerned about the snakes in the grass.  

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death , I will fear no evil....... for the Truth is with me, and I am with the Truth.  

Poor little hobbit has no conception of the Truth.......

He floats on the surface..... even while dowsing the waters below.  


Even our Chivo denies Truth.  

Chivo and hobbit both deny Truth.  They cannot envision that Truth is tantamount to love , even, or especially, if one has to love on the sly.  

If you want to love or pray...... not in the market, but in your closet, and shut the door.  

On the other hand, if you know the Truth, be prepared to shout it from the rooftops...... when that time comes...... and it will come, much sooner than we can imagine.  

The Truth is what you can trust with your life...... the only thing your life is for.  

Daily, we have to witness to the Truth..... in word and deed.  

The Truth is about now..... now is about the Truth.  

There is only one Now...... there is only one Truth.  

We all share that one Now...... we all share that one Truth...... whether we know or admit it.  

Only the Truth can fill the abyss of Being.  

And what is that Truth......?  

That Truth is the infinity ♾ of Being...... that all being is cosmic in its dimension.  

El Chivo has had the great fortune to discover this in person.  

Poor chick , is only able touch it with a pencil .  



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Very good grasshopper.

All I do is trust my life.

Try again professor.

A goat proclaimed the truth to you.

Took you 3 years to listen.

But you seem to think it’s your idea.

So I guess my goat work is done here.

Remember to practice what you preach.

Trust your life.

If you truly realize what that means, you will really thrive.

And you won’t talk about princesses anymore.

I’m not sure you are ready to leave fairyland.

Enjoy your party mad hatter.

1600........

El Chivo ,

Chick wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for foot, and foot 🦶 wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for the Princess ...... so go figure.  

If this is fairyland 🧚‍, then so be it...... I wouldn’t have any other.

People who need people are the luckiest........

Does the goat not need people?  I wonder.  

When I finally learned the truth, it was so hot 🥵, chick couldn’t handle it, alone.  That’s all.  

Science has tried to turn Truth into an object.  

It is not that, but it can only be interpersonal.  

That is the ontology of Truth.  

No other traditions can begin to understand that.  

The ultimate authority is inter subjective.



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Dan has Me down as a pagan.
El Chivo has Me down as a Russian agent.

Maybe I am a Mari trying to infiltrate the world??

https://theculturetrip.com/europe/russia/articles/the-mari-people-the-last-pagans-of-europe/

It's funny how these various religions seem to have this 12+1 ?

And 13 is part of My uncle fibonacci's sequence.

Comrade pagan hobbit

No no no Dan

You had it.

Stay there.

Trust your life.

Love the ones your with pretty much covers it.

That’s enough.

That’s all of it.

Ron and princess are family for you.

Act thusly.

I have no criticism of that.

Your delusions are another matter