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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by GSB Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:45 am

    Best Possible Picture?

    All unemployed, Ki-taek and his family take peculiar interest in the wealthy and glamorous Parks, as they ingratiate themselves into their lives and get entangled in an unexpected incident.


    "Rich people are really gullible"





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    Post by dan Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:17 am

    Ok, about last night..........

    I was told that I could phone in, but they couldn’t phone out, but in each case the reception was crystal clear.

    They were in different locations, and while I was on the phone..........



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    Post by dan Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:52 pm

    I just got off an hour long phone conversation with Kevin, in some airport, who sounded drunk 😵.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:36 am

    What needs to be understood?

    What needs to be done?

    Nothing.

    To try is to become your own impediment.

    The desire to know the unknown is just something we have to live with.

    Seeking why is a distraction and unnecesary.

    Why don’t I send someone I don’t know best wishes?

    While we may be one, we are not one here.

    Being one or many is irrelevant.

    The body will handle evolution and it could care less about how I feel about it Wink

    Who cares what any of you want?

    To reject the conditioned identity is to risk them thinking you insane.

    And certainly no one has any control.

    Those with the least control, are those asserting it most, who fear loss of apparent control most.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:36 am

    I am the greatest pollution in the world.

    I am the cause of the trouble.

    Trump isn’t the problem.

    Dan isn’t, nor Disclosure.

    Coverups aren’t my problem.

    I am the cause of the disturbance.

    I HAD to learn to calm myself.

    I had to become indivisible through letting my embrace relax.

    I am the trouble here.

    Speak this way and you will see through you.

    Well muppets, this is the only work worth doing.

    You are wasting your time hating enemies or fearing conspiracies or looking into the word for answers.

    Looking into being develops slowly over life in the heart.

    It’s a slow growth.

    Don’t try, do it or don’t try at all.

    Dan has trust and hope.

    Bless his chicken little heart.

    He thinks he loves the world.

    Well, looking into himself, he can see the insidious truth.

    Be not afraid, you truly never stood alone.

    You have always been and will always be...

    Alone with the Alone
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    Post by dan Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:50 am

    I say this about Kev, only because it might have been my fault.

    Ron does keep warning me, but I can still be a sucker.  And he did set me up with Kevin’s alleged situation.

    Kevin was enticing me with more info about his alleged portal work.  

    foot says I did ok.

    I suppose there is an abundance of entanglement at the Lake.  
    ............


    I feel badly for smelly.  I get to be alone with my j guy...... lucky me ☺.  


    11:30 🕦/ft/gmt-3..........

    Not to worry, 🏀💗, 👸 is pasting telomeres onto the 🦠.  

    She was just practicing with Ebola........ practice makes perfect 👌.  

    We should all be grateful for Mitt to stand up to the bully boy 👦...... he’s my kind of Republican....... the old fashioned kind.  

    🦶 tells us there is a plot for revenge at the lake...... vengeance is mine, says the lord...... and guess what, 🏀💗, I don’t believe in vengeance, kinda like I don’t believe in ☎s, especially after last night.  

    mitt would have been my grandfather 👴’s Republican.  

    smelly is such a hypocrite. He says he just wants to be alone with the alone, but he’s running around people, much more than I ever have, until maybe recently.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:03 am

    In wonder and imbecility I perceive being beyond reason and belief.

    I have no argument.

    Dans sentimental attempts are cute.

    Flap your wings chicken.

    Access is granted when the seeker dies.

    You then see the no self manifest and it is terrible awesome.

    Jesus loves the world?

    I do not understand a word of that.

    In repose the beautiful covers all things like a gossamer web.

    It reveals itself which is no self.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:35 am

    True seeing is done only with eyes wide SHUT!

    The portals hang on trees, grow underground.

    Isness is the same everywhere with 10,000 faces.

    The same and different.

    I am only cynical of our limited views.

    Go your own way.
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    Post by dan Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:41 am

    Understand, 🏀💗, that viral epidemiology and the WoM/MoAPS have much in common.

    smelly is our advocate for total lockdown, bless his heart I love you

    smelly advocates duck&cover....... your mouth 👄

    smelly sees no evil, hears no evil, and speaks no evil........ just like the three monkeys monkey...... er muppets.  

    In his current avatar, smelly is Pepe...... scary.  


    10:30/ft........

    The virus 🦠 is providing the best possible political portal for China 🇨🇳 and Hong Kong 🇭🇰

    I understand that the Princess is already on it.  

    It is not unlike the tenerife/vegas situations.  

    In China 🇨🇳 the anti-vaxers are trying to keep a step ahead of the vaxers.  It’s about manipulating/mutating the ‘telomeres’.  

    Of course, we’re not doing this in ‘real’ time.

    We’re doing it in portal time, which is the second/logical dimension of time. It’s 👸⏰ .......



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:37 am

    Poor Dan.

    He can’t hear very well, prob best thing for him.

    I said...go your own way.

    No hiding muppet.

    You are the one hiding.

    Since I met you.

    You hide in your game.

    You, Kevin, Foot, Ack, whomever.

    All playing their own games.

    Wonderful!

    No problems.

    Don’t ever just do what someone else does.

    You are the only one playing.

    No one should follow you, me or anyone else.

    So blah blah blah.

    Your words are nonsense to me.

    You are a fool.

    Own it.

    You are making this all up.

    Relax muppet, life is quite beautiful.

    Stop trying to make it ugly with your ignorance of it.

    Go your own way is my way of saying just go with the flow.

    ...

    I am a bottomless pit.

    I eat all your dreams.

    I eat all your prayers.

    And I love to lunch on all your beliefs.

    Toss it all in

    I’m gonna get it one way or another and your effluence feeds another universe.

    I am the maker and EATER of Worlds.

    But I like to hang out by the stream and eat roasted goat.

    Mmmmmmmmm

    ...

    Sorry, I was channeling Trump.

    A dark muppet.

    I can feel his chaos corrupting it all.

    Wonderful!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:57 am

    You banish chaos with laughter while telling it to FUCK OFF!

    No fear now.

    We are close to the mouth...
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:00 am

    You can cheat creation.

    You just need to give it the right tap in the right place at the right time.

    A planet sized quantum computer can manage it.

    I’m going to spoil the game.

    But you have to be neither neither.

    Elon would kill for a connection like that.

    I am not a monist Dan.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:15 am

    Hey, let’s keep it rollin...

    Why do trumps and hitlers rise?

    Because muppets want to give away the burden of giving meaning to their lives.

    Well muppets, it’s not gonna get any easier.

    You will have give your own life meaning and bear others.

    This is why I exist I know.

    To give this meaning.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:17 am

    “ To be, or not to be: that is the question:
    Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
    The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
    Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
    And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
    No more; and by a sleep to say we end
    The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
    That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
    Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
    To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
    For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
    When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
    Must give us pause: there's the respect
    That makes calamity of so long life;
    For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
    The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
    The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
    The insolence of office and the spurns
    That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
    When he himself might his quietus make
    With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
    To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
    But that the dread of something after death,
    The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
    No traveller returns, puzzles the will
    And makes us rather bear those ills we have
    Than fly to others that we know not of?
    Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
    And thus the native hue of resolution
    Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
    And enterprises of great pith and moment
    With this regard their currents turn awry,
    And lose the name of action.—Soft you now!
    The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
    Be all my sins remember'd.”
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    Post by dan Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:52 am

    Was Shakespeare into good and evil?  I doubt it.  He was too smart.  

    But good and evil are great for storytelling...... for the Metanarrative.

    The Eschaton is good for storytelling.  It is the one essential ingredient.  

    But it’s not good for business or politics.  For instance, what can a banker do with the end of the world?  Not a whole lot.  

    It is doubtful that capitalism could survive a steady state world.  

    If you are awake to this stuff, like smelly, you know that there is nothing we can do about this already being the best possible world.  

    What should we do about Kiviat for Congress?  foot says he has to be Republican.  

    Bassett says he has to be Democrat.  foot said something about the party of the likely replacee.  It sounds like donny wants more control of Congress.  I’m not into that.  

    I certainly can’t go along with a plot by Trump to take control of Congress.  The only purpose would be to further Trump’s autocratic inclinations.  

    Ron has always been supporting the conservative side, and has been in bed with Trump for some time.  And apparently Trump probably wants to dump Mike, as being too independent, the appearances notwithstanding.  

    If Trump’s being a virtual dictator is necessary to further Disclosure...... I would have to wonder......

    I don’t relish having to confront Ron on this, but I already did, spontaneously, this morning.  

    Why didn’t I see this coming, twenty years ago?  

    Why has Ron been the only visible insider...... forever?  Why would the conservatives be more for Disclosure than the liberals?  

    smelly would say ‘so what’ to the entire issue.  

    One might argue that we’ll need an oligarchy to maintain a hardline of social control after Disclosure.  

    smelly has no concern about global politics, or failed states...... que sera, sera.......


    6:15........

    I guess I’ve managed to politically sleep walk through the last three years.

    But when Aliyah said she had suggested Joe F for VP....... it was a wake up call.  

    It’s like 🐥 is now being held a political hostage by 🦶 .

    The Princess convinced me with one picture that I should support Trump.  I must be a real pushover.  

    If the Democrats lie down with the Republicans, who is going to lose their virginity?  

    How can we trust Trump without checks and balances?  

    I guess the Princess was right the first time....... the only way I could conceivably trust Trump would be to be his Vice President.  

    What would smelly think of them 🍎 🍏 ?  

    Yes, the Princess got me good.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:05 pm

    STOP TRUMP NOW!

    My cynical side is that anything that erodes the norms helps trump.

    He will use disclosure to further his power.

    No one can control this, it's in Trump's head now.

    If Foot really is with him, he and all with him are my natural enemies, all of them are our enemies.

    It's never too late to stand up.

    Do not pass GO!

    STOP HIM!

    Give your life to stop him.

    I don't think you understand what's happening here.

    In the BPW the smelly goat rises and we all stop him.

    We want to be fooled.

    This is our tick.

    Unraveling that in yourself is profound.

    You are conning yourself.

    The dark star rises.

    You can now see what was hidden.

    Terror!

    Trump has mesmerized his people.

    They are not swayed by rational arguments.

    Trump has evoked Hitler's playbook.

    He could do anything with them.

    I think there will be blood.

    They are swept up in his personality.

    They will let him do anything.

    He is giving them the meaning they crave.

    And it's all a crock of shit and all a lie.

    I bet he can mesmerize Billionaries, spies and govt types as well.

    Well, that SOB can't mesmerize the smelly goat Wink

    I have been inoculated against THE APOCALYPSE.

    We get to watch it in living color.

    Lucky us.

    I've done my best to help you free yourselves.

    I'm afraid you are alone with the alone now.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:23 pm

    Trump is not the enemy to liberty, ignorance is.

    The founding fathers knew that we would only be able to keep our liberties intact as long as we had an informed, well educated, rational thinking populace.

    Many people are willing sell our liberties for a false sense of security.

    The only way to preserve our liberty is to teach our children how to reason and think for themselves.

    Most people don't take the time to really think through things to the end, especially when it comes to politics and government.

    Confirmation bias and emotional thinking is not easy to overcome.

    Reason is our best weapon in preserving our liberty.

    It starts in the home teaching our children to be emotionally intelligent and teaching them how to think rationally for theirselves.

    Our government is out of control.

    What we need is to minimize the government's reach and power while maximizing personal liberty.

    The military industrial complex must be overthrown as well if we want to preserve our liberty.

    The Federal Reserve has no checks and balances and needs to be held accountable.

    We also need to return to sound money or a decentralized currency like bitcoin.

    We have a lot of work ahead of us to get where we need to be and many people aren't paying close enough attention.

    If we fall asleep at the wheel now we will pay for it later.

    Dr. Ron Paul wrote:Do our leaders in Washington believe in liberty? They sometimes say they do. I don't think they are telling the truth. The existence of the wealth-extracting leviathan state in Washington, DC, a cartoonishly massive machinery that no one can control and yet few ever seriously challenge, a monster that is a constant presence in every aspect of our lives, is proof enough that our leaders do not believe. Neither party is truly dedicated to the classical, fundamental ideals that gave rise to the American Revolution.

    We are policed everywhere we go: work, shopping, home, and church. Nothing is private anymore: not property, not family, not even our houses of worship. We are encouraged to spy on each other and to stand passively as government agencies scan us, harass us, and put us in our place day after day. If you object, you are put on a hit list. If you fight to reveal the truth, as WikiLeaks or other websites have done, you are targeted and can be crushed. Sometimes it seems as if we are living in a dystopian novel like 1984 or Brave New World, complete with ever less economic freedom. Some will say that this is hyperbole; others will understand exactly what I'm talking about.

    The two party system has failed us.

    The welfare and warfare state has run rampant and out of control.

    May liberty and reason guide us as we forge a path forward together.

    May this divided country find common ground through that which we value most....our liberty.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:30 pm

    Sorry, this is beyond reason.

    Trump is the embodiment of our ignorance.

    He is your enemy.

    A fool won’t see it.

    What do you do with ignorance?

    Dispel it.

    Dont take your meaning from anyone.

    Especially him.

    If one is already captured.

    Oh well.

    You aren’t getting a do over.

    I think we have essential elements but life is mostly existential.

    “…man is condemned to be free. Condemned, because he did not create himself, yet is nevertheless at liberty, and from the moment that he is thrown into this world he is responsible for everything he does.”

    The old discussions on liberty need a post-modern trumpian update.

    If you be strong enough to make your way, then you will.

    Trump has exposed many people who have no meaning they have defined.

    They take from others’ meaning.

    This is how trump can do what he does.

    We were warned he was coming for a long time.

    It is this ignorance we target...in ourselves.

    If you care to.

    You stop trump by dispelling your own ignorance.

    Live free.
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    Post by Foot Mann Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:30 pm

    One man for Congress, two paths ahead. On path for good the other for Dread. The chicken will lead him to the abyss, for the chicken cares not and for truth gives a Hiss.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:55 pm

    A chicken that hisses?

    Must be Abraxas.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:03 pm

    Yes, all the thoughts are snakes.

    But I am free of them now.

    Could care less how it goes really, good or bad are muppet limitations.

    This is beyond science, reason, logic and sanity and certainly beyond your control.

    And of course beyond beliefs and stupid ideologies.

    Those are false consciousness.

    It’s not religion or philosophy or any thought.

    Buckle up buttercups, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

    I hope you prepared your mind and opened your hearts.

    You really don’t have any idea what’s happening and it certainly isn’t what Dan and Foot are talking about.

    They are the clueless muppets.

    I am the the muppet standing here.
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    Post by dan Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:19 am

    Having the chicken as Vice President does indicate that we are still capable of a sense of humor.  

    I am a bit worried about having all those Republicans marching in lock step.  That’s more than a little bit scary. I don’t know how donny was able to pull that off. Maybe I’ll find out.

    3.5 would be my Treasurer, so that she gets to sign all the dollar bills.  That job is one of the most amusing...... I think.  

    smelly’s funny bone 🍖 might need to be restored.  Suddenly everything is so serious.

    I think smelly has gone through the Serious portal.  

    Seriously, gogo........
    The Treasurer of the United States has no fixed duties, but advises the Secretary on various matters such as coinage and currency production. Signatures of both officials appear on all Federal Reserve notes.
    Maybe, 🏀💗, if 3.5 would agree to be the Treasurer, the 🐥 would be 🧖‍red (spa/red, get it?) the onerous duties of Vice President.  

    It would definitely be funnier, wouldn’t it be, smelly?  

    3.5 would need to practice her signature.  That would be something serious....... wouldn’t it be, smelly?  I want it 👀ing like John Hancock’s........
    The most famous signature on the engrossed copy is that of John Hancock, who presumably signed first as President of Congress.[18] Hancock's large, flamboyant signature became iconic, and John Hancock emerged in the United States as an informal synonym for "signature".

    Yes, if 3.5 can perfect her signature, we might all be out of the woods....... after our errand into the wilderness 😜.  

    I mean....... mission accomplished, 🏀💗, or what, 🙏 tell?  

    All I have to do now is land a jet on an aircraft 🚗ier.  


    10:10/ft/gmt-3...........

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovita_Carranza

    But, guess what, 🏀💗, the position has been vacant since January 15.  

    It’s just a question of how soon we can get those Federal Reserve 📝 into circulation......... Disclosure will have been accomplished, and no one will even 📝ice until they are told about the WoM/MoAPS.   How clever is the 🐥, 🙏 tell?  


    12:20........

    Talking it over with buddy, we decide this is........ Operation: small 🌎, big 💗

    Operation: SWBL...... 🌎💗alien

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:28 am

    Serious?

    Now that’s funny.
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    Post by dan Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:38 am

    🌎💗alien=👻

    But, first, 🐥 gets to do a touch and go-around........

    Then it’s off to ShangriLa with 👸 ........ ok...... and 3.5...... ok....... and🦶.

    And that is all the news from Nowhere, 🏀💗

    👨💼🏦 was just going to be too onerous, wasn’t it buddy?  

    But 3.5 will leave behind a few proof sheets.  What more proof could we want?.......
    They say oh my god I see the way you shine
    Take your hand, my dear, and place them both in mine
    You know you stopped me dead when I was passing by
    And now I beg to see you dance just one more time



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:19 am

    I’m just playing along.

    “Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.”

    Hiding is evil.

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