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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:34 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    Topic reminder.......

    We’ll see whether this thread disappears or not......


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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:04 am

    hobbit,

    That is a wonderful video.  

    It’s almost too funny to be true.  

    Rest assured, however, that Chicken Little 🐥 is an equal opportunity looney lover 💗.  

    Everyone will be free to pick their favorite flavor of looneyness...... and that includes especially you, our furry little friend.  


    9:50..........

    With this best possible virus 🦠, the world 🌎 will be born again.

    We will have learned that every minute of life is precious, and not to be frittered away in mindless pursuits.  

    Especially, you will need to disrespect any authority that is being imposed upon you.  

    Your only Truth is the Truth you find within...... either spontaneously, or after much honest searching.  


    10:40.........

    Sure, there may be some birth pangs...... just like in Nature.  


    11:40..........

    So, sports fans, what are we going to find, when we search within?  

    We will find our higher selves....... the self that is worthy of dignity and respect by all....... the self that can transcend the daily strife down here.

    Then simply ask yourself if this innermost self seems to be the product of a random/selfish evolution.  

    If it does, then maybe look a bit further.

    If not, then you are confronting what is perhaps the most basic fact of Nature....... one that is way off of every scientific chart.  

    CL 🐥, hereby, gives you permission to wonder about the source of your innermost self....... outside of every scientific and religious box 📦.  

    If you have gotten this far in your soul searching, then you are at the threshold of the greatest cosmic secret......!  

    Your soul is a microcosm of a personal cosmos.  

    And don’t let any person claiming any authority try to tell you anything different.  

    In all of history, there was a unique precedent for the proclamation of this universal truth.  I call that person the j-guy.  

    Now, you understand exactly why our little virus 🦠 is the best possible global portal to this cosmic, historic truth.  



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    Post by RunningBull Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:51 am

    dan wrote:
    And, don’t worry 😉, sports 🏀 lovers 💗, we’re all gonna end up in the same Monad/Source, and the first shall be last, and the last shall be first.  Hmmm....... is that TMI, Princess?

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    Oh Dan, you bemused yourself. I thought you were just a bumbling old fool who had too much to drink. Apparently you had the keys to heaven and forgot to share. Cheers pirat

    dan wrote:
    With this best possible virus 🦠, the world 🌎 will be born again.

    We will have learned that every minute of life is precious, and not to be frittered away in mindless pursuits.

    Especially, you will need to disrespect any authority that is being imposed upon you.

    Your only Truth is the Truth you find within...... either spontaneously, or after much honest searching.

    Much better, you're much more tuned in today.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:10 am

    If anyone would like to celebrate our global rebirth....... feel free to host a virtual celebration 🎉.

    I’ll be your first guest....... make our day......
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    Post by RunningBull Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:56 am

    dan wrote:If anyone would like to celebrate our global rebirth....... feel free to host a virtual celebration 🎉.  

    I’ll be your first guest....... make our day......

    Its already happened. The equinox marked the beginning. Fear will evaporate like the gray mist in the sun. You can join in at anytime.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:14 am

    Sorry, RB,

    The Equinox comes every year.  (Actually, twice a year, of course!)

    The cosmic opportunity being presented to us with this Pandemic will come to us only once in human history.

    The mere fact that you don’t grasp the difference, RB, indicates that you are, indeed, bull headed.


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    Post by RunningBull Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:19 am

    dan wrote:Sorry, RB,

    The Equinox comes every year.  

    The cosmic opportunity being presented to us will come only once in human history.

    The mere fact that you don’t grasp the difference indicates that you are, indeed, bull headed.  

    Cycles within cycles. One can reference the fact that 12 o'clock occurs everyday at precisely 12 o'clock. Others make an appointment for 12 o'clock and actually show up. I didn't see you at the party, I think you might be too late. Regardless, all are welcome:

    Those who were first are now last, and there they shall stay;

    Those who were last are now first, and they shall lead the way.



    You can almost hear the death throes of the old paradigms.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:24 am

    My phone number is 443799 seventwozeroone.......

    Call me, now....... or I will have the right to call you chicken 🐓, for the rest of your days.
    ........


    Obviously, RB is some kind of astrologer.  

    Some astrologers are also personalists, but they a few and far between.  

    If you wish to remain active on this forum, you must declare whether or not you are a personalist.  

    There is no other excuse for you to be on the forum.  

    I’ll be happy to argue personalism with any impersonalist, all day long.  

    Otherwise, nothing we’ll be talking about on this forum thread will make any sense to you.  

    hobbit happens to be an historical exception to this rule.  


    2/ft/gmt-3..........

    There are many millions of astrology venues on the internet.

    I wonder why RB happened to pick the OMF/BPW thread out of all those millions?



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    Post by RunningBull Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:56 am

    Hmm.. Maybe you don't get it. Regardless I'm not in your time zone (maybe not even your world), and it's time for some z's. Maybe think about what the spring equinox is, and what it represents. Easter is around the corner. How do we decide when Easter is?
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:01 am

    Obviously, RB, you are just a day tripper, here.

    I suggest you find another tulip patch to go tripping through.

    Sayonara..........
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:19 am

    Dan, try to be a little more patient during the Fall.

    If one has not gone beyond beliefs they will have no way to reach here.

    That includes you.

    Blind leading the blind.

    It's beyond morality and you can only know it through your life.

    The only way is to dive into your life, which I have been encouraging for years.

    All that work now blossoms in adversity.

    You know it all through your life.

    You don't get more than a life.

    Anything else is imagination.

    You don't get Truth beyond how to live here.

    You have to be ok with not knowing.

    Fat chance you could ever be ok not knowing.

    But El Chivo is perfectly at peace with simply knowing my own life.

    There was a moment I thought AP was being authentic in his last video, but alas, no, he is lost in nonsense.

    It is as simple as this, get into they heart, anyway you can.

    Live there.

    You will meet all of it, there.

    But if you can't suspend your mind and integrate with your heart, you will be lost in imagination.
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    Post by RunningBull Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:30 am

    Jesus Dan. I can see Ron's frustration with you. This is not a game, and this isn't your tulip patch. I'm not an astrologer. Nor am I a day tripper. How did I get here? Why am I even posting here? I have no clue. Apparently this place is just the bucket where bad ideas go to fester and froth. El Chivo seems to have a working mind, at least.

    Regardless of your decision to include me into your little club is of no concern to me. I'm doing work in the real world where shit matters. You're lucky I even found the time to bring it to your attention. The clock is ticking.

    Hell is where new things go to grow.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:33 am

    Bahahahaha!

    Are we having fun yet?

    Yes

    Oh My!


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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:59 am

    You don't get Truth beyond how to live here...........?!

    smelly, you are hereby claiming to know that the entire prophetic tradition is a lie.  

    Who imparted to you that cosmic Truth, smelly?  

    Just wondering, goat 🐐 boy 👦........

    Let’s suppose that an astronomer discovers an asteroid ☄ headed toward the Earth 🌍.

    Should she keep her mouth shut 🤐?

    Would that keep you happy 😃, goat 🐐 boy 👦?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:17 pm

    RunningBull wrote:Jesus Dan. I can see Ron's frustration with you. This is not a game, and this isn't your tulip patch. I'm not an astrologer. Nor am I a day tripper. How did I get here? Why am I even posting here? I have no clue. Apparently this place is just the bucket where bad ideas go to fester and froth. El Chivo seems to have a working mind, at least.

    Regardless of your decision to include me into your little club is of no concern to me. I'm doing work in the real world where shit matters. You're lucky I even found the time to bring it to your attention. The clock is ticking.

    Hell is where new things go to grow.

    Oh....serious!

    Dan’s right, uh are an idiot.

    Go grow some flowers.

    He’s in the real world!

    Bahahahaha

    Doing real work!

    Bahahahahahahaha

    This is the best setup muppet to turn your head back to light.

    You are hell.

    Your duality is hell.

    Your head is turned away.

    You have no ability to accept reality from the ‘real world.’

    What is world wide calamity?

    A prompt.

    A prompt to look into this.

    Then you see the flowers.

    Until then you are an idiot, running like this idiot bull.

    Well, bull, you are about to be sacrificed.

    As above, so below.

    Last night I spoke to Lucifer.

    The crew says hello.

    Have you had rainbow water?

    It cures the corona delusion.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:23 pm

    Thank you, Eric,

    For once in your life, you actually backstopped CL, 🐥.  

    Eric and just had an hour long conversation about Lucifer.  

    It might be another false dawn, or we might actually be on the same page for the first time in our four year history.  If so, chalk it up to the virus 🦠.

    He is what smelly told me, that Lucifer told him, last night.  smelly was too bashful to blog this himself........

    1.)  Lucifer has the power to turn off the light.  

    2.)  The light shines on both good and evil.  The Light makes no distinctions.  

    3.) Everything flows..... Lucifer just goes with the flow.

    Let’s pause right there.........



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:33 pm

    The gods shine on El Chivo.

    Because I do not run my head away.

    I take their full force.

    It is a fire hydrant and would easily destroy the unprepared mind.

    I speak from my imagination of course.

    If yuh think you know more than I, yuh don’t Wink

    It isn’t what you know, it’s who you know and what you can accept.

    I can accept anything, firstly my death.

    There is no such thing as real work.

    That’s slave talk.

    There is only real living.

    Yuh make that up as you go.

    El Chivo’s tru being is Chimera, Lucifer showed me.

    And here I thought I was the only goat in existence.

    Do you know what you are?

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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:37 pm

    Ok, smelly.........

    Now allow me to extend, Lucifer’s thinking, please.......

    Lucifer just goes with the flow.........

    That is another statement of Leibniz’ Least Action Principle (LAP).  

    The LAP has two solutions....... the maximal and minimal solutions..... this is just from Physics 101.  

    Depending on the context we could be referring to the best or to the worst possible outcomes/solutions.  

    Leibniz believed that Creation represented the best possible solution as to why there was something rather than nothing.  

    Ok, Lucifer is just going with that flow....... just going along for the ride...... on Creation, if you will.  

    Or, to look at it from a different vantage...... there is a void to be filled.

    So, Lucifer and God combine their talents to get the biggest possible bang out of Creation/Nothing.

    To this end, they maximize both good and evil...... making sure that every crevice and cranny is filled right up to the brim.

    We call it the Earth/World.

    This is part of what Lucifer was trying to explain to smelly.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:41 pm

    Can’t shut a goat up, but as you asked nicely...

    Light has eternal experience.

    Light is love.

    It gives.

    Shadow is jealous.

    It steals.

    How can any challenge the light?

    You can’t lie to it, nor beat it in any games.

    You are bound to lose.

    You can only accept it.

    It makes music.

    Go with the harmony.

    After you let it all go.

    If you are still around, then you may get a glimpse.

    If you haven't killed yourself.

    You must learn about your will.

    What if most of who you think you are is not you at all?

    Corona can show you that.

    What if this is man made?

    Who cares really?

    Evil bends to the light and the light is drawn to the shadow.

    BOOM!


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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:08 pm

    Going with the flow, is going with Love........

    But here is the big catch....... here is catch 22.......

    Love necessarily includes jealousy.  

    What are we going to do about them apples 🍎 🍏?

    Ok, yes, smelly........ jealousy is the necessary shadow of love.....

    Just as death is the necessary shadow of life.  

    Evil bends away from the light and toward the shadow.

    Evil festers in the shadow of love, which is jealousy.

    To remove evil is to remove our shadows, which, however, provide us width some shade from the relentless glare of the Truth.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:15 pm

    I would guess that our attention is magick to the immaterial.

    All wants our attention, to take something from that interaction and maybe give something.

    We have systems and systems of techniques power has found and use to control our will.

    To bend our will to theirs.

    That doesn't work here.

    Here there is no bendy will.

    There is reality and you can't lie.

    If you lie, truly, you are lying to yourself and turned away.

    Facing this, there are no more lies or tears or doubt or fears.

    It's simpler I must say.

    That's not so bad is it?

    Good and evil have made a deal...

    Perhaps we have stolen this world from ourselves to give it back in a deeper way.

    We only live on its surface, but we can go so much deeper into it.

    Others have.

    I am not original.

    I followed the path to no path.

    And now here it is.

    I would ask anyone to consider which way they are facing.

    You can't lie now.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:33 pm

    Attention is magic to the immaterial...........

    Ok, I would go with that.........

    Wielding the attention/sword of Science is how we pull technology out of the hat/void of immaterialism.

    But, in this process, science has mesmerized our attention....... towards facts and away from truth.  

    If we want to see the truth, all we have to do is turn our heads...... to refocus our attention...... not on matter, but on the only thing that ever  really mattered...... Truth and Love.  

    Truth is our light....... we just follow the light back to the Great Attractor in the sky.......... our one and only Source/Telos...... our path of least action...... least resistance.  


    6........

    And what is different now from our utter discord of four years ago?

    It is the ‘evil’ of the Coronavirus that has now garnered our full attention.

    Just try to tell us that this some cosmic accident..... like the Big Bang.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:48 pm

    OK, I can go with that.

    My instincts though cackle at that word Truth.

    It must be my daimonic connection.

    They all scream at once, NOOOOOOO Truth.

    How can one gain the respect of the Light?

    When it shines in your direction, don't run and hide.

    Stand and face it, sooner rather than laterz.

    But the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of the lies.

    Yin and Yang.

    Apocalypse...

    ...Later

    Not quite yet.

    The stew is being heated and stirred.

    It's just not ready yet.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:57 pm

    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    ..........

    Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again; but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

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    Post by dan Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:04 pm

    Maybe smelly wants egg 🥚 in his beer 🍺........
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:30 pm

    We have Dan waxing poetic.

    That bodes well then for him.

    This little bird just sang...

    A sage once said fiction is pernicious.

    “I don’t ask anybody to follow any particular path. I just tell them to be what they are, in their natural, spontaneous state. Stabilize there, in the beingness.”

    I do not care what anyone or myself believes.

    Belief is natural.

    Believe as you like.

    You are the self here and NOW
    Leave the Mind alone
    Stand aware and unconcerned
    You will realize
    Standing alert and detached/attached
    Watching events come and go
    This is an aspect of your real nature

    What are the other aspects?

    Realize one aspect and you realize them all.

    Tell me what can help me?

    You know best what you need.

    I am restless how can I gain peace?

    Why do you need peace?

    I want what is pleasant and not what is painful.

    How do you know what is pleasant and what is not?

    From past experience of course.

    You have used your past experience to learn to find what is pleasant and avoid what is painful. Have you succeeded?

    No, I have not.

    ...

    “For eternal peace you must dwell in yourself, know how this touch of “I am” has appeared. All other knowledge is of no use in this connection.”

    “All that lives, works for protecting, perpetuating and expanding consciousness. This is the world’s sole meaning and purpose. It is the very essence of Yoga – ever raising the level of consciousness… In that sense the entire universe becomes a school of Yoga…”

    “Just live your life as it comes, but alertly, watchfully, allowing everything to happen as it happens, doing the natural things the natural way, suffering, rejoicing — as life brings.”

    “Prior to having a body, you had no consciousness. The union of That state with the state after the appearance of consciousness is a great Yoga. The Knower of that goes beyond consciousness. We are the light of Self.”

    What is yoga, the connection of two sides.

    “Even to talk of re-uniting the person with the self is not right, because there is no person, only a mental picture given a false reality by conviction. Nothing was divided and there is nothing to unite… You can find what you have lost. But you cannot find what you have not lost.”

    But we cannot go back to no consciousness or could we?

    Is this natural unbridged state the source of our true fear?

    “Desire and fear are the obscuring and distorting factors. When mind is free of them the unconscious becomes accessible.”

    "To act from desire and fear is bondage, to act from love is freedom.”

    When you have spent some time in your unconscious we can know each other better.

    Your depth, touches my depth.

    You can be a bridge for another in duality.

    But they must walk over it.

    It's like the shepherd finds his flock way on the other side of the island and he says no no no, not over there, over here.

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