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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:34 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    Topic reminder.......

    We’ll see whether this thread disappears or not......


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    Post by Cuan Scott Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:29 pm

    smelly_yolk wrote:

    Alexander, thrilled to meet the famous philosopher, asked if there was any favour he might do for him. Diogenes replied, "Yes, stand out of my sunlight." Alexander then declared, "If I were not Alexander, then I should wish to be Diogenes." "If I were not Diogenes, I would still wish to be Diogenes," Diogenes replied. In another account of the conversation, Alexander found the philosopher looking attentively at a pile of human bones. Diogenes explained, "I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave."

    WOW

    This is the way.

    So get to it CS, perhaps you can find your honesty.



    I know there are no teams.

    We have always been one team

    Everyone is perfect all of the time.

    The endless play continues

    What I say or think really doesn't matter

    I agree, we carry much excess baggage..

    You can't climb to lofty heights with a heavy pack.. even if your route was to nowhere

    The moments I enjoy with the four legged members of my little family pack are the quality moments.

    Eating home made scones these past few days was quality including sharing with our dog

    Quality is what life is all about.

    It is present everywhere and in everything when we hack away what we don't need.

    I sense laughter rates high on the gods quality ready reckoner
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:47 am

    Thank you, Scott.  

    I continue to read Kastrup.  He gets some things, but is unable to hold it together.  

    He doesn’t understand, he can’t even imagine a small, personal world.  

    Folks really shy away from the BPWH.  


    And how about that 🦠?

    One might easily suppose that 🦠s would turn us all of us into believers in atoms.  One 🦠 is single molecule.  

    Before there were 🦠s, there were seeds....... or they may have arisen ‘contemporaneously’........ in the logical dimension of time.  


    10:50/ft(gmt-3)...........

    Note that the morphology of pollen is very similar to a 🦠.  

    Metabolism, in general, begs the question of atomism v immaterialism.  

    Metabolism is mainly about reproduction.  

    In 1798, Eli Whitney invented interchangeable parts for the manufacture of cotton gins.  

    It seems that God may have predated Eli........ by a few years, but you get the idea.  

    KIM, that the first object was necessarily a subject...... a subject that was capable of self reflection, or schizophrenia, if you will.  

    Self awareness is what differentiates sapience from sentience.  

    My modest, best/least possible, claim is that sapience is omni-scient/potent.  We are sleeping giants...... we partake of the slumber of materialism.  Tell Ack that muppets are sleeping giants.

    My mission is to kick the sleeping giants.  The 🦠 is opening the portals of our minds.  They remind us of our ontology........ our ontogeny...... that we are spawned by the Source.  

    Sapience (schizophrenia) comes before sentience, comes before ⚛s and 🦠s.  This is just cosmopsychism.  


    noon..........

    Here’s the deal........

    Bernardo wrote DUR in 2011.  There is no mention of cosmopsychim.  

    His 2019 book, IoW, the idea of the world, has several dozen references.  I’d better get on them.......

    Right off the top....... IoW has no mention of the Anthropic Principle.  This lacuna is passing strange.  

    His 2016 book, More Than Allegory (MTA), parts II&III, are not to be missed.

    Clearly, Bernardo felt that he was pushing the academic boundaries far enough....... without getting into eschatology.  You can’t go any further without getting into revelation and coverup...... deep into woo woo land.


    2..........

    MTA is supposed to be about religion.  Not once does he mention the prophetic tradition........ hmmm 🤔......  

    Bernardo must have the smelly disease.  

    MTA is full of narrative....... without a whisper of the Metanarrative.  

    In ch 8 of MTA, he describes an initiation of some sort......into a Trilobite (?) club.  I suspect this was about the same time of my initiation to the aviary.  

    Allegedly, it arose out of Huxley’s Doors of Perception.  

    It would be hard to believe that this ‘club’ never interacted with MKUltra, or the like.  

    For instance, the movie, Contact, could have provided such overlap..... speaking of actuators.  


    3:45.........

    Note that Jeffrey Kripal provides ample overlap with the aviary.

    Did someone say that it was a small world?  

    Ok, so try ch 9, please.......

    I guess that Bernie got a little too close to the flame.   You can only cheat so much in this game....... before you start smelling.  

    Is it possible that Bernie might not be aware of 🐥?  


    6:30........

    Ch 9 was almost simple minded....... no new insights.  It fell far short of even just the rudiments of the BPWH.  

    On to ch 10.........



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    Post by Araneidae Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:52 am

    SeedS borne on the Winds of time
    Hour gLaSs turns with no reaSonAble rhyMe

    The first will be last and the last will be first
    Dawn's gRains PollinatinG in birTh

    PanIcked gasps inhalIng the cHoIce
    Singing songs of meTaPhysical vOIce

    When the clock strikes three
    The MICE scurry up
    Through, back, around
    with nary a fUss

    Unanswered fluTe
    So deLiriously near, piPing the gaTes
    OpEning feAR

    YoU've anSwered yoUrself while looking inTo the seeR
    Your chOices reFlected by a knowing wyrD


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:58 am

    Big words Dan.

    Big deal...

    Ring around the rosary...

    We all fall down.

    But I think we are just clearing our heads of trump and billionaires.

    Sustainable growth will be the new order.

    This is my world.

    The wolves are moving back into the deep woods.

    The age of courage dawns...

    Words aren’t gonna save you.

    We can disagree Dan.

    Though I have no disagreement or agreement with anything.

    How do you feel?

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    Post by whoknows Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:04 pm

    Here’s a bit of an update for those who may have an interest.

    Seems along with the zinc you should add, chloroquine, Helps the zinc cross into the cells...

    Funny, no one or very few are interest in coved 19 here in the states...

    More worried about the stock market. What a sad telling that is.

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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:40 pm

    whoknows wrote:Here’s a bit of an update for those who may have an interest.

    Seems along with the zinc you should add, chloroquine, Helps the zinc cross into the cells...

    Funny, no one or very few are interest in coved 19 here in the states...

    More worried about the stock market. What a sad telling that is.



    Not so...depends on where you go.  Many concerned. It's just the talking heads on the mainstream media who no one listens to anyway who are discounting the virus.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1237142891077697538.html



    FULL QUOTE:
    From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy:
    1/ ‘I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do.
    2/ First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.
    3/ The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200% capacity
    4/ We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask.
    5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.
    6/ My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE STOP, READ THIS AGAIN AND THINK.
    7/ We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same everywhere, this is the pattern:
    8/ 1)A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick
    2)Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube, but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks great
    9/ 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
    4)Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality spikes also from all other causes that can’t be treated properly.
    10/ Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict measures to keep people safe,
    11/ if governments won’t do this at least keep your family safe, your loved ones with history of cancer or diabetes or any transplant will not be tubed if they need it even if they are young. By safe I mean YOU do not attend them and YOU decide who does and YOU teach them how to.
    12/ Another typical attitude is read and listen to people saying things like this and think “that’s bad dude” and then go out for dinner because you think you’ll be safe.
    13/ We have seen it, you won’t be if you don’t take it seriously. I really hope it won’t be as bad as here but prepare.


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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:50 pm

    DISCUSSION ONGOING:

    Is Bill Gates Profiting from the Outbreak? Or Is Something Far More Sinister Taking Place?



    Dear quint,



    Many people suspect that the coronavirus is being used as the scapegoat for a financial collapse, which Spiro Skouras believes will then be used as the excuse to usher in a new monetary and financial system of control.



    Spiro's research echoes my own observations about the convergence of Agenda 2030, Modern Monetary Theory, the blockchain, the end of the petrodollar and a new financial system based on a centralized inventory of assets and resources, including living beings and their genomes. Everything is to be put on a blockchain to become trackable nodes on the Global Information Grid (GIG).



    He says, "The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is funding a program, which will soon offer an at-home testing kit for the coronavirus...[Bill Gates] must be an expert, considering his foundation co-hosted Event 201, the United Nations' pandemic simulation of a coronavirus outbreak, which preceded the actual corona virus outbreak by about six weeks and also coincided with the United Nations-themed World Military Games, which took place in Wuhan, China [the] ground zero of this outbreak...



    "If you believe you've been exposed to or infected by the virus, you can simply just go online and fill out a questionnaire and the test will be delivered to you within two hours.



    "It doesn't specify how the test will get there, who's gonna deliver it, whether it's coming by drone. We don't know. It's just 'It'll be there in two hours.' That's pretty impressive...



    "The results will be available within two days and will be shared with local health authorities so they can track your movements and your contacts, making it easier for health officials to locate others who may need to be tested and/or quarantined, as well as to track the virus, itself and its spread and possibly identify other potential hotspots.



    "This sounds a bit Orwellian to me but after all, it is a public health emergency, so I guess extreme circumstances call for extreme measures, right?



    "They state the intent for this program to expand to a state level and beyond, eventually. What I get out of this is it sounds to me like they are building a database to track potentially infected people - and not just any database but a DNA database - realistically, that has this potential because they will collect your DNA once they swab your nose and conduct this test...



    "When you start to look into other programs that Gates is involved in, we start to see a trend and this starts to raise some red flags for me. For example, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation have also funded an invisible biometric tattoo program to identify vaccinated people, which can be given at birth or throughout any time in your life.



    "And this was designed to be able to track entire nations of people now could this program be related to or at least at some point integrated into the program and the database that we were seeing the Gates Foundation setting up right now, in the United States regarding the coronavirus?



    "It's anybody's guess. We'll have to see but this isn't the only example. Another program that's connected to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is the ID 2020 program, which is a program that claims that roughly 1 billion people on Earth are 'in danger' because they have no internationally-accepted form of identification.



    "So, those people who are 'at risk' include people who are affected by a refugee crisis, which, of course the current migrant crisis or refugee crisis that we have been seeing over the past several years appears very well to be an engineered crisis, using weapons of mass migration to destabilize nations.



    "And we're seeing this take place. Others, they state are at risk are people who don't have medical records documented anywhere or birth records. So, they want to be able to track your birth records, your medical records and which life-saving vaccines you may potentially need with this biometric, invisible tattoo that they'll be able to imprint on you and scan and log into their databases. This is no joke...



    "This program is not only funded by Microsoft - and Bill Gates separately - but Gates actually founded one of the main organizations named Gavi, which is leading this program. Other partners include Accenture, which is a Ripplenet partner, the Rockefeller Foundation and multiple branches of the United Nations, including its international computing Center, which will likely be running to some degree the international database.



    "This digital ID system will track everyone and everything using blockchain technology and not only will it provide medical history on you via the biometric tattoos or implanted microchips which they mentioned in these reports, it will also be used for employment and background checks and will most likely be tied to your social credit score and even your bank accounts.



    "If you want to be able to do business, buy or sell things or even be employed, you will likely have to be integrated into the system. This is why I believe that this current health crisis is no accident. It aligns with all of their goals. As we can see, right here, on the United Nations' own website. For its 2030 agenda goal number 16.9: 'By 2030, provide legal identity for all, including birth registration.'



    "This is exactly what these programs are being set up to do and they're being funded right now by people in organizations like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the United Nations and many others.



    "They are rolling out these programs, using this current crisis as cover. Cover for their new digital financial system. Cover further new global governance programs.



    "I've reported on this numerous times and we just get more and more confirmation every day. This is all connected. We can see the same players involved, under every rock that we look under...



    "The central banks will integrate almost two billion people, which they call 'the unbanked' into this new system of slavery, in partnership with the UN, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Bill Gates. These are the social engineers, with their technocratic plan for Full Spectrum Dominance and it's happening right now. This is why we are seeing this censorship take place. This is why they have tried to silence me and others in the past.



    "Please share this information before it's too late, as if it's not too late already.



    "Follow my work on BitChute, Twitter, ActivistPost. I really do appreciate ActivistPost and all the other sites out there who do post my work. I don't get paid to do this. I'm not running ads. It's actually costing me money and precious time to make these reports.



    "Stay tuned for much more."



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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:51 pm

    NOTES ON THE BUG.

    Stay Safe Patriots 2020 - Latest Update
    https://www.slideshare.net/CyrellysGeibhendach1/stay-safe-patriots-2020-updated-02242020


    Notes:
    Originally a 14 day symptomless incubation period is now believed to be as high as 24-27 day incubation period without symptoms in some individuals; Instances of contagious symptomless infected carriers [Superspreaders]; reportedly a bioweapon; airborne; can kill within 4-days from onset symptoms; Virus lives 9 days outside the human body (Chinese HCP); over half of patients developed dyspnea a median of 8 days after illness onset (range: 5–13 days). SARS-like lesions being found in lungs. Hemorrhaging from facial orifices being seen on video of Chinese people on street keeling over dead. One video by/from medical worker in China depicted 3 deceased toddlers being placed together in the same black body bag for disposal which is contradictory to the CDC statement on median age.


    2nd Wave of infection after recovery of first infection is reported as resulting in death via massive heart attack.


    First Responders (02242020) being told the virus effects is no worse than Chicken Pox.


    Most US medications mfg in China.


    “2.19 mg/L of chlorine dioxide in wastewater ensures complete inactivation of SARS-CoV (Coronavirus).” - pubmed.
    "Bleach vs current nation-wide RSV Virus: 1 part bleach to 9 parts water"


    02252020 GMAIL CENSORING EMAILS SHARING COMMENTARY OR INFO ON THE BUG.


    RELAY [twitter] from Patient in Wuhan China who displayed the medications her physician prescribed to treat her:
    • Oseltamivir
    • Avelox
    • Lianhua Qingwen (a TCM Product)
    • Arbidol
    CLARIFICATION:
    Arbidol: a broad-spectrum antiviral compound that blocks viral fusion.
    Lianhua Qingwen Capsule can be used in the treatment of colds, flu-induced bronchitis, pneumonia, COPD, interstitial pneumonia and other lung inflammation.For the treatment of influenza due to heat-toxic attack lung, syndrome : fever or serious fever
    Oseltamivir, sold under the brand name Tamiflu, is an antiviral medication used to treat and prevent influenza A and influenza B (flu)
    Avelox (moxifloxacin) is a fluoroquinolone antibiotic that fights bacteria in the body. Avelox is used to treat community acquired pneumonia, plague, bacterial sinusitis, and chronic bronchitis with bacterial infection.




    Italy:
    Analyzing what Italy is doing wrt the crisis there. They're being smart. Very quick adaptation and response by police and EMS personnel. Quarantines established. Check points established. Police and EMS provided with PPE. Residents advised to STAY AWAY from hospitals. Self-quarantine. Home checkers detailed to see afflicted, confirm positive results relieves hospital, prevents hot zones. Suspension of air travel limits spread. Italy is organizing Q zone relief efforts-deliveries of food, water, essentials to only targeted Q zones. This prevents spread of infection and limits travel of infected. Government asking for calm. Overall, I think they are trying very hard to deal with the situation humanely and proactively-much better than us at the moment. You may want to consider activating your community volunteer network to deal with issues there.




    Team:
    - Tribble-Industries (researcher - independent autist?)
    - Robert Morningstar (Researcher/AltMedia deepstate specialist)
    - Naconah @RenovoAlejandro (fmr Criminal Investigator)
    - Demetrio @dkdk459 (professional licensed private investigator)
    - Steve (The Storm) @Stevewhee111 (social media networker)
    - Palatin (Social Media Networker)
    - Sufiyan (China Witness)
    - Foxtrot Charlie (IC)
    - Nova (Researcher)


    LINKS: (other specific related links in STAY SAFE PATRIOTS 2020 document listed top of page, i.e. CDC)
    - The Dangers of Synthetic Biology: A Biotech Firm Made a Smallpox-like Virus on purpose. Nobody Seems to Care
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/biotech-firm-made-smallpox-like-virus-purpose/5704551
    - https://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2020/02/14/covid-19-cdc-urges-local-u-s-hospitals-to-develop-a-pandemic-plan/
    - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wuhan-eases-lockdown-then-retracts-order-3-hours-later-italy-cases-soar-past-200-live
    - Early Intl data collection on twitter: https://twitter.com/RenovaAlejandro/status/1219873451810246656
    - https://www.kerririvera.com/good-news-coronavirus-destroyed-by-chlorine-dioxide/
    - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15847934/
    - EVENT 201 http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/
    - PANDEMIC SIMULATION USED IN GATES SHATTUCK LECTURE http://www.idmod.org/news/node/296
    - https://www.mscbs.gob.es/profesionales/saludPublica/ccayes/alertasActual/nCov-China/documentos/Procedimiento_2019-nCoV.pdf
    - METABIOTA TRACKER https://www.epidemictracker.com/2019-Novel-Coronavirus-2019-nCoV
    - https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/library/2020-01-28-The-Pinbright-Institute-Woking-GB-Coronavirus-et-al-Patents-Assigned-to-AN_Pinbright-compiled-Jan-28-2020.pdf
    - https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/library/2018-11-20-US-Pat-No-10130701-CORONAVIRUS-Assignee-THE-PIRBRIGHT-INSTUTUTE-Woking-Great-Britain-funded-by-Wellcomme-Trust-and-Gates-Foundation-USPTO-Nov-20-2018.pdf
    - https://aim4truth.org/2020/01/28/proof-coronavirus-is-a-bioweapon/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
    - https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/emergency/drinking/making-water-safe.html
    - https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2020/01/27/did-wuhan-coronavirus-escape-from-a-lab-in-china/
    - https://hesperian.org/books-and-resources/#
    - A World Without Cancer (HQ) - The Story of Vitamin B17 - G. Edward Griffin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKhzbcpI_ro&feature=youtu.be
    - https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/conquest/unleashing-the-cold-virus-to-kill-cancer.h4236-1589835.html
    - Munder on Event 201 https://twitter.com/dkdk459/status/1220524993156538369 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaVtZB6ku58&feature=youtu.be)
    - Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by Johns Hopkins CSSE https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
    - Moving epidemic method (MEM) applied to virology data as a novel real time tool to predict peak in seasonal influenza healthcare utilisation. The Scottish experience of the 2017/18 season to date https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5861591/
    - Prevotella-integrated-nCov (N=3 now)? https://sanchakblog.wordpress.com/2020/02/08/how-much-more-proof-do-we-need-that-wuhan-outbreak-is-prevotella-integrated-ncov-abdominal-pain-nausea-diarrhea-are-associated-with-this-gut-bacteria/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
    - Remdesivir and chloroquine effectively inhibit the recently emerged novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in vitro https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0282-0
    - https://creativedestructionmedia.com/news/asia/2020/02/23/update-on-our-previous-reporting-trump-furious-infected-diamond-princess-passengers-flown-home-in-direct-violation-of-his-orders/
    - URGENT: ELITES 'BUGGING-OUT'-- BEZOS ARRIVES IN NEW ZEALAND SQ:I CAN CONFIRM THAT MESSAGE HAS GONE OUT TO THE ELITE TO HEAD TO NEW ZEALAND AND ALSO TO SOUTH AMERICA-THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INTEL WARNING SYSTEM! https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/urgent-elites-bugging-out-bezos-arrives-in-new-zealand
    - Fairview Developmental Center near Los Angeles, where US govt. tried to house up to 50 infected coronavirus patients, has zero isolation rooms, no viral containment facilities and no training for BSL-4 biohazards | The Common Sense Show https://thecommonsenseshow.com/conspiracy-health-tragedy/fairview-developmental-center-near-los-angeles-where-us-govt-tried-house-50-infected-coronavirus
    - https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-22-costa-mesa-files-court-document-to-block-federal-relocation-of-35-50-infected-coronavirus-patients.html
    - Covid19 Real Beast Causing Dangerous Pandemic – Chris Martenson is futurist, economic researcher and holds a PhD in toxicology from Duke University. This is the real deal. This isn’t a dress rehearsal. It is happening. https://usawatchdog.com/covid19-real-beast-causing-dangerous-pandemic-chris-martenson/
    - SENTINEL Satellite mission supports a broad range of services and applications such as agricultural monitoring, emergencies management, land cover classification or water quality. CAN SEE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE FEVERS OR NOT! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinel-2
    - Cotton is a member of the Senate Armed Services and Intelligence committees, so you could say that when it comes to data on China, he’s pretty much up to speed. https://www.cotton.senate.gov/?p=about
    - A clinical study published in Bio Med Central (BMC) revealed to the world that black elderberry can help you fight off both influenza A and B viruses, as well as certain gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria that are responsible for upper respiratory infections. We’ve known this since back in 2011. https://realfarmacy.com/study-elderberries-flu/
    - https://pandemic.news/2020-02-14-mainstream-media-natural-news-reporting-china-faked-infection-numbers.html
    - Senate committee slams US health officials over 'top secret' coronavirus briefings https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8042999/Senators-slam-health-officials-secret-coronavirus-briefings.html
    - Undercover Investigation Indicates Coronavirus Death Toll in Wuhan Much Higher Than Official Number
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ9FIpo2oNg&feature=youtu.be
    - Emergency Clause: OMG-Did VP Pence Just Suspend The Constitution? https://www.patreon.com/posts/emergency-clause-34400660
    - A lab in North Carolina is working to synthesize a sample of the coronavirus from its genetic code, according to MIT Technology Review https://t.co/di6yGTKkuK?amp=1 https://www.axios.com/dual-use-dilemma-in-synthesizing-the-coronavirus-8c026dd6-ff1e-40d5-b670-47dcf69924ff.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100
    - Side Effects of 1918 Flu Seen Decades Later http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1929814,00.html
    - Timeline of Coronavirus Outbreak February 2020 (Jan on diff page) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_outbreak_in_February_2020
    - BACKCHANNEL: Hot Zones Starting to Breakout in USA https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=2428
    - BACKCHANNEL: Mailcarrier wrt DOD customer, "It's all over" https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=2429
    - DoD: Covid-19 'Likely' to be a Pandemic Within the Next 30 Days https://www.theorganicprepper.com/dod-covid-19-pandemic-30-days/
    - Tri-Parte Flu 2014 Redux? Are Coronavirus Re-infections Being Caused By A Second, Bio-weaponized & Mutating Virus Distinct And Different Than COVID-19? Would Authorities Tell Us If It Were? 'Coronavirus' Is Re-infecting Far Too Many With Deadly Consequences https://allnewspipeline.com/Coronavirus_Reinfecting_Far_Too_Many_With_Deadly_Consequences.php
    - Gag Orders; Info censorship... So I Am Supposed To Take A Shot From The Same Schmucks Who Allowed WuFlu Into North America....And then covered up their screw-up by gag orders and information withholding? https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2020/03/01/so-i-am-supposed-to-take-a-shot-from-the-same-schmucks-who-allowed-wuflu-into-north-america/
    - Gag Orders; Info censorship... White House Pledges to Protect Employees From Coronavirus, Let Experts Speak The promise follows reports of federal officials facing gag orders and being improperly exposed to the virus. https://www.govexec.com/management/2020/02/white-house-pledges-protect-employees-coronavirus-let-experts-speak/163419/
    - Gag Orders (First Report): NEW YORK ISSUES GAG ORDER TO POLICE AND E.M.S. - NO TALK TO ANYONE ABOUT CORONAVIRUS CASES:SQ- I HAVE RECEIVED INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION:NOTE DC,SAN FRANCISCO,LA,SEATTLE ,CHICAGO AND ATLANTA ALSO GAGGED https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/new-york-issues-gag-order-to-police-and-e-m-s-no-talk-to-anyone-about-coronavirus-cases
    - 06182019 (date): AMA Prepares Gag Order for Medical Dissenters :The only way that medical care advances and gradually becomes more scientific is by challenging orthodoxy http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/ama-prepares-gag-order-for-medical-dissenters/
    - Testing Issues: Released San Antonio, Tx patient tests positive for coronavirus – after 2 tests came back negative
    https://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2020/03/02/released-san-antonio-tx-patient-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-after-2-tests-came-back-negative/
    - 03022020 (date): TESTING ISSUES: Explosion of coronavirus cases worldwide: health official said virus began spreading undetected 6 weeks ago https://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2020/03/02/explosion-of-coronavirus-cases-worldwide-health-official-said-virus-began-spreading-undetected-6-weeks-ago/
    - Gunnison, Colorado: the town that dodged the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic A century on, what can we learn from how US mountain community dealt with viral outbreak https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/gunnison-colorado-the-town-that-dodged-the-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic




    SUNDAY FEB 23
    https://www.theothersideofmidnight.com/20200223_guest/
    Robert (MORNINGSTAR) reports on a possible "leak" from an official source high up inside the Chinese military, attesting to the reality of "Corvid-19" as an escaped Chinese bio-weapon, possessing "unusual properties and end objectives."


    While the reality of this particular claim is still being investigated, from other sources -- including an official inquiry letter from the Trump White House to the National Academy of Sciences this week, asking the Academy to investigate the possibility that Corvid-19 is "a deliberately engineered virus" --




    SUMMARY 02242020
    Stocks slide as CDC releases new US case numbers


    The number of cases worldwide topping 80,000.


    Italy reports 7th death, 200+ confirmed cases


    Spain reports 3rd case


    WHO says outbreak not yet a 'pandemic'


    WH reportedly considering expulsion of Chinese journalists in retaliation for WSJ reporters


    US consulate in Milan temporarily halts visas


    California has 8,000 under 'self-imposed quarantine'


    CDC warns Americans against travel to South Korea


    Italian finance minister suspends tax payments in virus-hit areas


    First cases reported in Oman, Bahrain


    WHO kowtows to China in statement


    Wuhan issues order to loosen lockdown, then U-turns


    NHC says outbreak is fading, though situation remains "grim"


    2 new cases confirmed in Canada


    China approves crackdown on wildlife trade after WHO says virus likely came from bats


    Iranian lawmaker says more than 50 deaths in Qom; officials say 12


    Hong Kong bars South Koreans


    South Korean cases rise 60 to 893, Daegu city locked down.


    * * *


    Update (2000ET): The number of cases worldwide topping 90,000...



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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:00 pm

    What I'd like to know is why foreigners judge what American's think by looking at mainstream media and their talking heads or by federal government, who all (outside of Trump directly) work for the New World Order Globalists and their affiliated transnational corporations and deep state NOT AMERICANS.

    There really is a huge difference between the two...what do we have to start shooting the NWO members to make the difference clear to everyone?  Might happen if prosecutions don't happen pretty soon...four years and waiting. Feebs prefer to work for the Deep State so can't seem to arrest them; Justice Department is still taking orders from known globals so they've got their thumbs up in dark places.  Basically Trump does not have a police force to do the arrests as yet.

    But that will be changing soon one way or another.

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    And when the prosecutions finally do happen, I have a suggestion for Space Force & Solar Warden's first legit assignment for the convicted...haul their arses out to Pluto and dump them all off...no long-term housing expenses required. Actually save the taxpayers some money for once.


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    Post by dan Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:35 pm

    Cy,
    And when the prosecutions finally do happen, I have a suggestion for Space Force & Solar Warden's first legit assignment for the convicted...haul their arses out to Pluto and dump them all off...no long-term housing expenses required. Actually save the taxpayers some money for once.
    I’m very disappointed in your above statement.

    How clueless you are about the dynamics of Creation.  

    You have no clue about the revelation that is unfolding under your nose.......
    You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

    Feeling vindictive toward any aspect of Creation is being foolish/myopic beyond comprehension.  


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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:20 pm

    The chicken has ears but cannot hear. Feet but cannot travel. Satchel but cannot pack. The chicken has not passport, no ticket, no path to follow.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:50 pm

    I’m content where I am, for now. But thanks for thinking of me.


    On Kastrup...... I wonder how it might not all be fiction. The dialogue of chapter 10 is perfectly correct in its content, but much too preachy in my estimation.

    The notion of such a Club is straight out of Hollywood. Give him a contact, and get it over with.

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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:02 pm

    dan wrote:Cy,
    And when the prosecutions finally do happen, I have a suggestion for Space Force & Solar Warden's first legit assignment for the convicted...haul their arses out to Pluto and dump them all off...no long-term housing expenses required. Actually save the taxpayers some money for once.
    I’m very disappointed in your above statement.  

    How clueless you are about the dynamics of Creation.  

    You have no clue about the revelation that is unfolding under your nose.......
    You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

    Feeling vindictive toward any aspect of Creation is being foolish/myopic beyond comprehension.  


    (cont.......)


    Dan there is a huge difference between vindictive and JUSTICE.

    Landgrabbing is wrong
    Money Laundering is wrong
    Stealing future generations future is wrong
    Murder is wrong
    Rigging elections is wrong
    Undermining nation-state national security is wrong
    Clandestinely replacing a people's government & agencies is wrong
    Coup is wrong
    Lying to the Public, law enforcement, Courts, Inquiries, and Public Representatives is wrong
    Economic Enslavement is wrong
    Human Trafficking is wrong
    Pedophilia is wrong
    Manufacturing unnatural sexualties in humans for soft depopulation is wrong
    Weapons of Mass Destruction is wrong
    Planetary Depopulation is wrong
    Use of bioweapons is wrong
    Torture to harvest Adrenochrome is wrong
    Undermining or nixing a Constitution and/or parts of it is wrong
    Manufacturing & Operating a Deep State is wrong
    Conscripting Humans to a Alternative Space Program Clandestinely is Wrong
    Withholding knowledge of non-human Contact, Diplomatic activities & ties, Technology Exchange Programs, Treaties from the funding Public is wrong.
    Creating breakaway civilization is wrong
    Withholding scientific discoveries is wrong
    Maintaining planetary population in a state of indentured servitude and primitive conditions is wrong


    I could go on here Dan.  Creation, both Bri & Bau (The two aspects of the Force generated by Source in All Being) is about  LIFE!  Don't you dare preach I don't understand the dynamics of Creation!

    I know quite a bit about all the many facets of the revelation in motion.  Your portals are not the only facet.

    The Universal Source is not exactly thrilled with the tampering that has gone on with the human race of Earth and its POTENTIAL.  Its purposes are disturbed and endangered.



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    Post by RunningBull Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:25 pm

    Lenience is wasted on those who had the power to free humanity but chose instead slavery.
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    Post by dan Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:33 am

    RB,

    You have no clue who Jeffrey Kripal is.

    You have no clue about Ketchup and 🐥.  

    What are the chances that Ketchup is unaware of the R&D show?  

    It is a small world, after all.  


    Cy,

    Justice is mine, saith the Lord.  

    You may rest assured that Justice is not for muppets, Cy.  

    How dare you, in other words?  

    Where were you, when I laid the foundations of the world?  

    You’d better stick with your cowboys and 🇮🇳s.  


    9:15........

    And, RB, only the Creator has the power to free humanity.

    I’m getting the impression that MTA is a work around....... with 🐥 in mind...... how best to work around the Eschaton, in other words.  


    11:50.........

    Chapter 10........
    As it was bound to happen in a field of emerging, growing chains of cognitive associations, eventually one such chain formed a self-referential loop: the last mental content content in the chain evoked the first one again, closing a circle of associations. This allowed the ideas and feelings in the loop to become, for the first time, self-sustaining.
    And this is how the cosmic Self emerges out of the cosmic Potency.  

    Well, I would further suggest that the primordial Self had to be sapient, which is rather more than just a geometrical figure...... that is just a figure of speech.  The potency becomes self-referential...... I am that I am...... the ontology is bootstrapped...... boosted transcendentally.  All of this is ‘happening’ outside of any notion of linear time.  


    2:30..........

    But then, just a page later, Bernardo reverts to discussing conventional astronomy/cosmology, as if the material and immaterial cosmologies could be treated as coequals, and we’re right back to Cartesian dualism....... avoiding all questions of eschatology..... teleology.  

    No one wants to tread on 🐥’s toes.  


    6:40........

    Bernardo’s MTA was definitely worthwhile.  I would recommend it for anyone attempting to understand smelly’s perspective.  Bernardo’s conclusion is the smelly one.  From one perspective, it explains how not to step on 🐥’s blue suede 👞s, while maintaining intellectual honesty.  Bernardo is only somewhat more articulate.  

    Are we going to be able to remake this bed without disturbing the patient?  The 🦠 is certainly part of that remake, and it is not terribly disturbing........ it’s just how to stop the world, without rattling the cage.  It provides a global portal of a rather ad hoc nature.  A more severe follow up would not be surprising, and that may be what foot 🦶 is on about.  Thanks, but no thanks.  

    I look forward to reading Bernardo’s latest, more analytical book, IoW (2019).  



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    Post by GSB Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:16 am

    “I wrote this to a group of scientists in the US,” he said, adding “...there is still controversy among American scientists whether the actual virus is derived from bats, snakes or created in a lab.”

    https://www.jpost.com/OMG/Uri-Geller-bends-the-truth-as-he-spreads-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-620293

    Uri sent on Sat March 7

    Hi all. From inside information:

    Covid-19 was created and manufactured by China’s MSS, while delivering the virus to Iran for bacteriological warfare reasons, the virus accidentally was transmitted to a human. This is the real story behind the pandemic . There is still a controversy among NSA scientists whether  The actual virus is derived from bats , snakes or actually created in a lab.

    The following is an automated message:

    F.Y.I: Please visit my website at www.urigeller.com
    The documentaries on my home page are interesting:

    A LIFE STRANGER THAN FICTION directed by Simon Cowell, the BBC's recent "The Secret Life of Uri Geller", by the Oscar-winning director, Vikram Jayanti and many others. The CIA documents/films about the experiments conducted with me are revealing.

    I wish you plenty of good health, happiness and peace of mind. Be positive, optimistic and believe in yourself. Follow me on Facebook.com/theurigeller and on Twitter @theurigeller.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:27 am

    I love flowers

    dogs

    beer

    wine

    boobs

    and popcorn

    in no particular order

    I don’t care what you think

    Or what opinions you have

    Empty yourself

    Calm your minds

    Open your hearts

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:31 am

    The devil is much better company than god.

    God’’S s goat fart and so are all of you

    Watch that chest fever...

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    Post by GSB Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:17 pm

    This Is the Real Estate Magnate Who Bought Skinwalker Ranch, a UFO Hotspot
    Brandon Fugal bought the infamous Utah ranch from aerospace billionaire Robert Bigelow in 2016.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m7qxyx/brandon-fugal-owner-of-skinwalker-ranch

    SKINWALKER RANCH OWNER REVEALS UFO HOTSPOT IS WIRED WITH SENSORS AND CAMERAS

    https://www.newsweek.com/skinwalker-ranch-ufo-sightings-uap-robert-bigelow-poltergeist-1491532


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    Post by Foot Mann Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:57 pm

    The Chicken and the Loons. The Chicken and the Loons. The Blog is Dead, the Chicken is Read, and the Loons keep playing their Toons.
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    Post by dan Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:25 pm

    I did ask 🦶 about Bernardo’s Trilobite Club and about Jeffrey Kripal.  I got no response.



    The definitive lacuna of BK is his failure to grapple with personalism and the small world cosmology, which should have been the main message of MTA.  We’ll see if he can do any better in IoW.  


    9:30........

    The lack of any mention of the mysterious Trilobite Club does leave a gaping explanatory gap....... a fairly elaborate academic hoax?  

    Yet, I find no fault with the content.  

    The only remaining question is whether God chooses to be a dramatist or not....... we being her co-dramartists, of course.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:00 pm

    Foot Mann wrote:The Chicken and the Loons. The Chicken and the Loons. The Blog is Dead, the Chicken is Read, and the Loons keep playing their Toons.

    Bahahaha

    Yah right sparky

    You aren’t even a smelly foot

    Clueless to the end

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    Post by Cyrellys Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:01 pm

    Foot Mann wrote:The Chicken and the Loons. The Chicken and the Loons. The Blog is Dead, the Chicken is Read, and the Loons keep playing their Toons.

    YOU INCLUDED.  You were invited to speak your truth.  Going thru a proxy results in nothing but skewed relay.  I would think with your training you would know that by now.  Or do they not teach that to IC anymore?  Patton is probably rolling over in his grave howling.

    But I do agree with you Foot, Dan is notorious for not listening. I've lost count how many times he's taken what I've said and twisted it into a pretzel beyond reasonable recognition. Case in point. He's STILL doing it.

    FYI Manticore's notes on the CV have been updated today.  Thanks Gary.


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    Post by dan Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:19 pm

    Cy,

    🦶 would, of course, deny my having any positive role in the R&D show, beyond entertainment.  

    Is 🦶 morally deficient for not being more forthcoming?  🦶 is responsible for specific tasks that may or may not impinge on Disclosure.  Speaking out of office or ex-cathedra would likely be a dereliction of his duty.  

    On the other hand, more than once, Ron has specified that 🐥 is in charge of Disclosure.  Does that mean that I can demand information..... from anyone?  Evidently, it does not.  

    The only recourse we have is to a benevolent God.  We can only trust that God is not in dereliction.  

    I would suggest that Bernardo Kastrup is our best published source, at this point.  This is no small favor.  That he is not also an eschatologist is a bit of a mystery, but, evidently, his plate is already full.  

    Please bear with us.........



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