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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:20 am

    First topic message reminder :

    To get to Notes from the Underground you have to go by way of Fathers and Sons and What to Do.  That will take you back to the mid eighteen hundreds....... it’s been a trip, and we’re almost done.

    We’re still left with the question of what to do....... modulo communism and existentialism.  

    In a pre Millennial frame, I’d been advocating (a portal-centric) communalism for the duration of the Millennium.  

    In post Millennialism, ie. modulo the Millennium, we have to readdress the question of what to do, ie. come up with an action item for the Princess.  

    (continues in post #2......)


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:48 am

    Not renounce.

    Let go.

    A relaxed hand is an open hand.

    Cling only to non-clinging.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:52 am

    GSB wrote:And this morning's inbox, from Jack Sarfatti:

    Non-duality is kaka nonsense.

    Quantum mechanics is fundamentally dual.

    Wave -Particle

    Mind – Matter

    Mind moves Matter

    Matter back-reacts on Mind to generate Consciousness (only in PQM with Frohlich coherence).

    It really is that simple.



    Not disagreeing about physics, but he is not nondual.

    He ignores his heart.

    Jack is a totally lost moron.

    World is full of lost fools.

    Why would anyone listen to such a fool Wink

    Cause they want excitement in life.

    Cause they are sheep.

    Baaaaaaaa
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:56 am

    dan wrote:We, humans, cling to our beliefs.  

    Many of those beliefs turn out to be empty, unfounded.  

    Are you advocating that we renounce every belief...... as being empty?
    ........

    I hold the key in my open hand.
    And what is this key?  

    .

    Of course you fool!

    Drop allllll your beliefs.

    God you are dumb.

    Almost as dumb as Jack.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:02 am

    Yup
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:06 am



    Be self taught.

    Fuck every ism every creed every answer.

    LIES LIES LIARS

    Your stench fills my nose.

    But I love you, because I am love, and will endure the stench of ignorance and stupidity from cold mountain where the red dust never settles.

    Become as a child.

    This is the end of hiding and lying.

    That’s the world you want?

    A lie?

    Enjoy.

    A lie would just never do.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:15 am

    Nothing outside ourselves will help.

    The only way is through all that nonsense.

    Into your self.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:19 am

    dan wrote:
    I hold the key in my open hand.
    And what is this key?  

    I don't know.

    It's a very mysterious key.

    smelly wrote:Nothing outside ourselves will help.

    The only way is through all that nonsense.

    Into your self.

    Indubitably
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:30 am

    The ego is afraid.

    It begs, what are you doing losing yourself?!

    It frantically looks for meaning to justify its claimed position of authority.

    No authority exists worthy of persons.



    I gave up trying to talk ones like you and jack long ago Dan.

    I’m not trying to tell you anything.

    I AM

    Now I just tease and laugh at you fools chasing your reflections.
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    Post by dan Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:38 am

    It appears that my two esteemed colleagues are advocating for the cessation of conversation.  

    I simply ask my esteemed colleagues if any of us are here for any other reason than to converse with one another?

    In point of fact, we are having a conversation about the desired cessation of conversation.

    Please, dear God, let this conversation not cease.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:50 am

    i can

    smile

    at you

    for eternity

    i do

    enjoy dancing



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:52 am

    bahahahaha

    talking not-talking is fun!

    there is great silence in loud thunder.

    We see lighting before we hear the thunder, but thunder goes with the lighting.

    Pow!
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    Post by dan Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:11 am

    Ok, if we are agreed that conversation shall not cease, then the one thing we need not discuss is the cessation of conversation.  

    What then would you gentlemen wish to discuss?

    I have a suggestion........ why don’t we discuss whether the cosmic Will is personal or impersonal?  


    3:20........

    The weather back here is chilly and sunny.  

    How is the cosmic Will out there?  

    Is it personal or impersonal?  

    Schopenhauer is the primary witness to testify that the cosmic Will is impersonal.  He will be my lead off witness.  

    In his defense, I suggest that natural catastrophes point to the impersonal nature of that Will.  
    .......

    Ack, suggests that this Will is neither personal nor impersonal.  

    Ok, then let’s first consider whether it has an impersonal aspect.......


    3:40.........

    It does appear that Ack is desiring nothing more than to quote a prior source who states categorically that there is nothing more to discuss about the Will, other than to note that the cosmic Will, like every thing else in the world is empty...... presumably like this attempt at conversation.  

    If that is all that you have to say on this topic, Ack, then I invite your silence on this matter....... and allow me, please, to continue.......

    For instance, the death toll of a 1931 flood in China is estimated to be in excess of a million.  

    This event would appear to represent an impersonal act of Nature.  



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:16 am

    How’s the weather out there East Coast?

    .....

    The cosmic will is neither personal nor impersonal.

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:28 am

    The Heart Sutra wrote: The third level of prajna is transcendent wisdom, which views all things, whether mundane or metaphysical, as neither permanent nor impermanent, as neither pure nor impure, as neither having a self nor not having a self, as inconceivable and inexpressible. While mundane wisdom and metaphysical wisdom result in attachment to views, and thus knowledge, transcendent wisdom remains free of views because it is based on the insight that all things, both objects and dharmas, are empty of anything self-existent. Thus, nothing can be characterized as permanent, pure, or having a self. And yet, neither can anything be characterized as impermanent, impure, or lacking a self.


    Knowing is flowing not-flowing with nothing to grasp or cling to.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:48 am

    dan wrote:
    If that is all that you have to say on this topic, Ack, then I invite your silence on this matter....... and allow me, please, to continue.......

    As you wish
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:08 pm

    I was reading about the Heart Sutra on Wikipedia and found this.

    wikipedia wrote:Schopenhauer, in the final words of his main work, compared his doctrine to the Śūnyatā of the Heart Sūtra. In Volume 1, & 71 of The World as Will and Representation, Schopenhauer wrote: "…to those in whom the will [to continue living] has turned and has denied itself, this very real world of ours, with all its suns and Milky Ways, is — nothing." To this, he appended the following note: "This is also the Prajna–Paramita of the Buddhists, the 'beyond all knowledge,' in other words, the point where subject and object no longer exist."

    Weren't you guys talking about Schopenhauer?

    Cosmic Coincidence!
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    Post by dan Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:44 pm

    Ok, also from this same entry on Arthur’s WWR, we have........
    ...[T]o one who has achieved the will-less state, it is the world of the willer that has been disclosed as 'nothing'. Its hold over us, its seeming reality, has been 'abolished' so that it now stands before us as nothing but a bad dream from which we are, thankfully, awaking.
    Hmmm....... ‘nothing but a bad dream’......?

    Are dreams, either good or bad, really nothing?  

    Are dreams empty?  

    Many have suggested that dreams are more real than reality...... are nothing less than the golden path to the cosmic Psyche.  

    It is from the vantage of the cosmic Psyche that smelly suggests, certainly implicitly, that he addresses us.  

    Is the cosmic Psyche empty?  Is it impersonal?  

    It is only manifested through persons.  

    How can a person know the cosmic Psyche, if it is not fully lodged within the person?  

    It is just us, 10^10 persons, who can, in every idiosyncratic manner, including the smelly manner, point us back to this Source.  

    Is the Source empty?  

    Empty relative to what, pray tell?  

    Yes, all knowledge can only be relational, and some suggest that this relationalism implies that everything is empty, in and of itself.  

    One cannot deny that there is some logic to this assertion.  

    My counter argument is that love is the essence of the relational.  

    It has also been suggested that love is the only true reality...... that God is love.  

    No one will prove this last assertion, one way or the other.

    But a great many of us muppets see this belief as providing the only meaning for any existence.

    We may be crazy, but is there any other way to be, in the End?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:15 pm

    There is a warm feeling when family and friends are close and satisfied.

    There is a warm feeling when a connection is made with another person.

    I have learned that one can live naked, never hiding, just awareness that is ready to act, this is living with intensity from ease.

    "Philotimo is a Greek word that is without definition, but impacts the world beyond imagination. The word philotimo comes from the Greek root words “filos,” meaning friend, and “timi,” meaning honor. The meaning of philotimo extends far beyond the words friend and honor. Philotimo encompasses the concepts of pride in self, pride in family, pride in community, and doing the right thing. Philotimo is an all-encompassing concept that gives meaning to life that stretches well beyond ourselves. Elder Paisiou aptly defined philotimo as “that deep-seated awareness in the heart that motivates the good that a person does. A philotimos person is one who conceives and enacts eagerly those things good."

    I am aware when I am kind or cruel.

    When nothing is spoken in my home, music is playing perhaps and the dogs are sleeping and the wife is relaxing, there is an experience of that state of mind.

    One can learn to take this warmness with them into any situation or environment.

    We can hold a space within ourselves.

    I hesitate to call this the good, or the opposite the bad.

    Do I care about my source in these experiences, no.

    Irrelevant.

    We know how to live and what to do naturally.

    We self organize.

    But then there are raging lunatics and assholes about, gotta watch out for them.

    They act thusly because they are in pain.

    I was in great pain, but I am healed now, whole.

    I enjoy wholeness more than fracture.

    Accepting the world and ourselves as we are is really the only thing I can say.


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    Post by dan Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:17 pm

    And that, my muppets, ain’t nuttin.

    Had Arthur S never experienced puppy love?

    That would be a darn shame, but, did he have to take it out on all the rest of us, puppy lovers?


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:22 pm

    It is what it is.

    Sattva!


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    Post by dan Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:38 pm

    Sattva is the quality of balance, harmony, goodness, purity, universalizing, holistic, constructive, creative, building, positive attitude, luminous, serenity, being-ness, peaceful, virtuous.
    I’ll second that motion.

    Philotimo is stated to be the love of honor.  

    Quite frankly, I would just as soon honor love.

    And here’s the question of the hour........ did Jesus go with the flow or not?   Perhaps he defined the flow.  What would Lao Tzu do?  I think Lao Tzu would have arranged to be at another place at another time.  And apparently, he succeeded.  
    ........


    But I’m just dying to get back to the flood of 1931........

    Wow!  That was a real doozy.  

    If I were an omnipotent God, how the heck would I explain that?  

    Just off the top, I could say that it was an act of God......... Hmmm......

    I was really outdoing myself.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:16 pm

    I honor love in my life.

    I am grateful for it.

    What would God say?

    Shit happens, every moment, some horrible, some resplendent.

    This is what Marcus Aurelius says.

    Marcus Aurelius wrote:"Nothing is more wretched than a man who traverses everything in a round, and pries into the things beneath the earth, as the poet says, and seeks by conjecture what is in the minds of his neighbours, without perceiving that it is sufficient to attend to the daemon within him, and to reverence it sincerely. And reverence of the daemon consists in keeping it pure from passion and thoughtlessness, and dissatisfaction with what comes from gods and men. For the things from the gods merit veneration for their excellence; and the things from men should be dear to us by reason of kinship; and sometimes even, in a manner, they move our pity by reason of men's ignorance of good and bad; this defect being not less than that which deprives us of the power of distinguishing things that are white and black.

    Though thou shouldst be going to live three thousand years, and as many times ten thousand years, still remember that no man loses any other life than this which he now lives, nor lives any other than this which he now loses. The longest and shortest are thus brought to the same. For the present is the same to all, though that which perishes is not the same; and so that which is lost appears to be a mere moment. For a man cannot lose either the past or the future: for what a man has not, how can any one take this from him? These two things then thou must bear in mind; the one, that all things from eternity are of like forms and come round in a circle, and that it makes no difference whether a man shall see the same things during a hundred years or two hundred, or an infinite time; and the second, that the longest liver and he who will die soonest lose just the same. For the present is the only thing of which a man can be deprived, if it is true that this is the only thing which he has, and that a man cannot lose a thing if he has it not.

    Remember that all is opinion. For what was said by the Cynic Monimus is manifest: and manifest too is the use of what was said, if a man receives what may be got out of it as far as it is true.

    The soul of man does violence to itself, first of all, when it becomes an abscess and, as it were, a tumour on the universe, so far as it can. For to be vexed at anything which happens is a separation of ourselves from nature, in some part of which the natures of all other things are contained. In the next place, the soul does violence to itself when it turns away from any man, or even moves towards him with the intention of injuring, such as are the souls of those who are angry. In the third place, the soul does violence to itself when it is overpowered by pleasure or by pain. Fourthly, when it plays a part, and does or says anything insincerely and untruly. Fifthly, when it allows any act of its own and any movement to be without an aim, and does anything thoughtlessly and without considering what it is, it being right that even the smallest things be done with reference to an end; and the end of rational animals is to follow the reason and the law of the most ancient city and polity.

    Of human life the time is a point, and the substance is in a flux, and the perception dull, and the composition of the whole body subject to putrefaction, and the soul a whirl, and fortune hard to divine, and fame a thing devoid of judgement. And, to say all in a word, everything which belongs to the body is a stream, and what belongs to the soul is a dream and vapour, and life is a warfare and a stranger's sojourn, and after-fame is oblivion. What then is that which is able to conduct a man? One thing and only one, philosophy. But this consists in keeping the daemon within a man free from violence and unharmed, superior to pains and pleasures, doing nothing without purpose, nor yet falsely and with hypocrisy, not feeling the need of another man's doing or not doing anything; and besides, accepting all that happens, and all that is allotted, as coming from thence, wherever it is, from whence he himself came; and, finally, waiting for death with a cheerful mind, as being nothing else than a dissolution of the elements of which every living being is compounded. But if there is no harm to the elements themselves in each continually changing into another, why should a man have any apprehension about the change and dissolution of all the elements? For it is according to nature, and nothing is evil which is according to nature."
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    Post by Cuan Scott Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:39 pm

    Dan,

    Did you not suggest that we are at the top of the rollercoaster ride?

    I sense we sold ourselves the tickets for this ride.

















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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:04 pm

    The infinite dimensions of personhood do come to light after ones eyes have adjusted to the dark.

    I was hoodwinked by God, yes.

    Previously I had stated I was indifferent to having been hoodwinked.

    I’m willing to admit now that being hoodwinked might be the best thing that ever happened to me.

    Disclosure will proceed forward in the hands of the discloser.

    Personhood and visitorhood will continue to be at the core of disclosure.

    Now, what about Portals?

    Are Portals fake news or not?

    I’m willing to support the claim that we live inside a portal.

    Furthermore, I am willing to support the claim that if history is to have any meaning it must have a beginning, middle, and end.

    Portals will have a significant role to play in the end of history....

    We live inside a portal yes, but we also have access to ad hoc portals for the purposes of disclosure.

    Now let’s see if smelly is willing to play along...

    Me?

    My blogging days are over.

    Enjoy.

    Love Persons.

    Persons all we have.


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    Post by dan Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:30 pm

    Scott,

    Sold ourselves the tickets.........?  That would be my guess, also.  


    smelly,

    Marcus sounds like our man for all seasons.


    Ack,

    I remain open minded about the Princess being the Queen bee.  

    I doubt that I could have chosen a better one.  

    If portals didn’t already exist, we’d have to invent them, and we probably did that, too.  
    ............


    So did two million souls, on the other side, get together one day and decide, hey, guys and gals, what do you say that we have the Mother of All Floods (MoAF).  And, say what, maybe they were practicing for the Eschaton?  Practice makes perfect....... even though we have for all of Eternity to decide how hairs we should have on our heads.  

    Yes, undoubtedly there is a veil of ignorance, with regard to the other side, but if we do decide on some particular event, we do have to recruit prospective individuals to play the various roles.  How much choice does each character receive?  

    I’m sure it’s not that simple or straight forward.  However, we probably don’t have to contend with individual egos....... so it may, actually, be a lot less complicated than producing a movie, say.  We don’t have to deal with prima donnas.  The individuals emerge naturally, spontaneously, when we get over here.  


    I have to find out how the end of the world turns out in HGG.........
    He did this, and was rather startled to discover that he had managed to create the long-sought-after golden Infinite Improbability generator out of thin air. It startled him even more when just after he was awarded the Galactic Institute’s Prize for Extreme Cleverness he got lynched by a rampaging mob of respectable physicists who had finally realized that the one thing they really couldn’t stand was a smart-ass.



    (cont........)


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