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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:20 am

    First topic message reminder :

    To get to Notes from the Underground you have to go by way of Fathers and Sons and What to Do.  That will take you back to the mid eighteen hundreds....... it’s been a trip, and we’re almost done.

    We’re still left with the question of what to do....... modulo communism and existentialism.  

    In a pre Millennial frame, I’d been advocating (a portal-centric) communalism for the duration of the Millennium.  

    In post Millennialism, ie. modulo the Millennium, we have to readdress the question of what to do, ie. come up with an action item for the Princess.  

    (continues in post #2......)


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    Post by dan Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:33 am

    wk,

    I see you and raise you.......

    Love is the only mode of existence.

    Love is the only illusion that is not an illusion.  

    Love is what gets us in the End.  Existence is love’s not so tender trap.    

    Love is the glue that holds the cosmic mind together.  

    It keeps it focused.  It is gravity.  

    Love is about faith, truth and trust....... and beauty......which are all really the same thing.  

    When we stop believing in love, we stop living....... we merely exist, at the most.  

    Does donny understand any of this?  

    donny has a terminal case of misplaced concreteness.  

    Or he is able to mime the disease?  Either way, his days are numbered.  

    Are the chicken’s days numbered?  It depends on how you look at it.  

    donny makes a point of not keeping his options open....... not on this side of the portal.  

    On the other side........?  I’ll let the Princess deal with that.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:07 pm

    Dan wrote:smelly,

    The way to exercise non belief is to exercise non thought....... the exercise of which you are an accomplished master.

    Haha. High praise from the chicken, received.

    Ya, love isn’t a belief or an idea or thought.

    I don’t even need to acknowledge or understand love.

    As my life was given, so is love, like the light shines.

    My belief is not required to know Love.

    It is mysterious, no doubt, I am certainly no master of it, I am simply a lover.

    It is some aroma rising from everything.

    Being comes before thinking.

    Love before being.

    The substrate because it provides all possibilities.

    Love can become an idol.

    Idols are created by belief.

    “He whom love touches not walks in darkness.” —Plato

    Platonic love is found when the One is experienced.

    Nietzsche from The Gay Science,

    Here and there on earth we may encounter a kind of continuation of love in which this possessive craving of two people for each other gives way to a new desire and lust for possession—a shared higher thirst for an ideal above them. But who knows such love? Who has experienced it? Its right name is friendship.

    Dan, we could spend the rest of our lives here together pondering Love.

    If we are realizing One Self, love is surely supporting this.

    I don’t believe it, I recognize and remember it and realize it as I experience it.

    This is the commonality I sense in the experience and it’s not bound my fleeting definitions or awareness.

    Eros is like fire.

    Fire burns.

    Fire warms.

    On a cold night, who wouldn’t want a fire?

    For love is sufficient unto love. When you love you should not say, “God is in my heart,” but rather, “I am in the heart of God.” And think not you can direct the course of love, for love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course. Love has no other desire but to fulfil itself.

    I was in a boat on this ocean of love and had thoughts about it, but the water and body and boat were given, when one leaves the boat and gives themself freely to the depths, only then does love transcend thought.

    Just some ramblings on love.

    And then you die Wink

    Fun.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:14 pm

    Dan is a lover.

    Only reason I could bear him all these years Wink

    We here share a friendship only possible from love.

    We can know any in that love.

    Love has always connected us to paradise.

    Kind of feels like this...

    “The soul takes flight to the world that is invisible but there arriving she is sure of bliss and forever dwells in paradise.” —Plato

    Who can explain or believe it?!

    I think anything evil attempts to separate you from this love.

    But that’s impossible.

    We always snap back.

    We can only be seduced away from it by illusions.

    Life is our true evidence of love.

    Every experience a chance to dance in the connection or try to get away from it.

    Why would or could we ever leave love?

    When we greet another, do we spit or punch or curse them first naturally?

    No, we look for a connection immediately, we ask for it by offering a hand or a welcome word or we give it with a kiss or hug or firm grasp.

    We seek to connect naturally.

    We trust naturally.

    Which can let the baddies have a field day.

    I still offer my hand warmly to all I meet.

    More and more I just give a hug first.

    Love is startling to most people still.

    That’s our work, our joy, to fully embrace and embody this.

    Waking up is just a full embracing of love.

    A true sign of any who are awake is that love flows easily in and out of everything they do.

    To get there you have to love all of it, even the worst if it.

    And transmute the illusions.

    We truly don’t need anything.

    We will discover we have always had it all.
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    Post by whoknows Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:45 pm

    For Ack

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:38 pm

    There are signs of life on Earth.

    I feel Josh Homme real deep.

    We swim in the stream..

    I liked his new music venture this fall.

    He’s been deep. Apropos I feel.

    You have to get naked to make the best music.

    Strip it all down.

    Take down all the barriers.

    That’s how Plato did it too.

    How he found himself.

    ...

    “There’s a bit of mental disrobing that goes on as you drive to the desert.” Josh muses. “I think as a musician, particularly in this day and age, you have a bit of armour on to protect yourself from grabbing hands and chatting mouths and closed ears. You do it to insulate yourself. But on the way to Joshua Tree, you take a lot of that off – which is ultimately a combination of insecurity and bravado – and you really empty your pockets of the residual of trying to protect yourselves.”

    With their baggage left in the big city, then, 11 strangers make the sparse, two-and-a-bit hour drive out of Los Angeles. “When I showed up after a very long ride on my own,” Mike Kerr says, “I was surrounded by mountains and it got really cold. I couldn’t handle it. I felt like Elf. Like Will Ferrell in Elf! Looking out the window, like, ‘Where the fuck am I?'”

    Where the fuck am I indeed?



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    Post by dan Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:51 am

    Yes, sports fans, the chicken singularity is near.  That is when we lose our heads.  

    To understand this phenomenon, observe the zombie ants and Phytochemistry.  

    As usual, Omf is the Petri dish.

    Out of our heads..... out of our global Cancer will burst forth the Chrysalis, on wings of silicon..... in a few weeks.  

    It has to do with the deep state meeting Joe Sixpack with the donny/chicken as the midwife.  

    Yes, sports fans, I’m still working on the Ukrainian connection.  Be sure to stay tuned.  

    Dummy that I am, it took me this long to figure out that the deep state is the Monad....... get over it, get used to it.  

    Is this prophecy pre or post Millennial?  Who the heck cares...... just to paraphrase the smelly one.  

    Obviously, this is how the Monad resurrects itself, as the Monarch with 10^10 eyes.  KISS.

    Welcome to the Millennial spark gap....... as we turn our best possible rabbit hole inside out....... and upside down.  

    Onward to the Ukraine........ as if we need a geographical locus for our Meetup.  

    Ok, that’s where the Mohole currently exists....... drill baby drill, all the way to the deep state.  

    That’s where our cosmic shell is the thinnest, right now, politically speaking.  

    Prove that the chicken is wrong.  

    donny thought he was looking for the deep Server.  He was really looking for the deep Source/throat.  I guess we found it, sports fans..... better late than never.   

    Now, I just need one of smelly’s t-shirts....... Do I look like I care?  

    Hey, we just are that we are!  


    10:45ft/gmt-3..............

    Our condolences to foot........ donny just announced that his best friend was assassinated.  Probably foot had to pull the trigger...... it’s a sad day in Mudville.  

    Well, Al B helped pull the trigger........

    But I bet Al was just the bait......... and/or he is joining Kashoggi in the safe house.  

    Prove the chicken wrong........



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:01 am

    Do I look like I care Wink

    Just another day of Mortys killin Mortys.

    Watch this guy.

    https://4threvolutionarywar.wordpress.com/2017/06/23/nikolai-berdyaev-unsystematicity-as-a-method-alexander-dugin/

    Many deep ones I have found have noted how deep Berdyev’s metaphysics go.

    The feeling of the 60s awakened philosophers is that western religion is based on deliberate lies that veered away from Plato’s tack mistakenly.

    Much evidence for this if one bothers to check. Europe has connected back to this deep stream with Plato, but we live under the tyranny of certain scholars on Plato from the UK and US. The awakened suggest no faith is needed, one can reason out things using the Dialectic. This is intriguing to me. And seemingly true and very powerful in my experiments.

    As I am not an ego on a journey to transformation, I accepted my life, but denied fate by embracing my freedom as a human being. To know what is.

    I can’t speak of the divine as Petrarch and Plato seem to know it.

    I am engaged in discovery of the Logos I suppose. But Its not my concern as an ego, its about the will of self.

    What is this ego-self connection? The watcher and the observed merge.

    I have become amazed to see how science can mutate these resources and leave a word out here or a story there giving totally different meanings to things.

    But this guy Dugin is curious.

    Why this nationalistic insanity?

    I know kinda, but still, I can imagine a Dugin living for humanity not Russia. I guess just an idealistic fantasy. He has a strange idea about where Russia is heading.

    “It is very necessary for us today to build a philosophical Russian Logos.” —Dugin

    No, wrong, it necessary today to build a bridge to the west using the Logos.

    Dugin is mentally ill of course.

    No ones perfect.

    He wants a new Middle Ages where the Heroes conquer the priests and merchants.

    He has a formidable mind, even though he’s insane.

    Maybe not insane?

    Most muppets are morons.

    I see more and more the world is a stage play really run by a few producers who are always fighting with each other.

    Some are sworn enemies to the end.

    But this is the invitation to love, the call.

    Our misunderstanding of the Logos manifests it stronger and stronger and the grey fog begins to clear.

    These last centuries were to be lived in a secular world Dugin says.

    Well, as I deny my fate, I deny history as the mob knows it.

    I see the stream beneath it.

    I call it a stream because I know how it moves.

    Dan calls it the monad which implies a cease of movement to me, which is not how I know it.

    I know it as a moving stream always changing everything.


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:47 am

    Condolences to foot.
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    Post by dan Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:32 pm

    The latest on the AlB raid indicates that it was donny vs the Pentagon.  

    So it was donny and foot vs the PtB.  Where was the deep state?  

    donny tried to foil the raid, with his pullout, so the Pentagon was forced to make a preemptive strike.  

    How was ISIS aiding Disclosure, assuming that foot is still in the pro Disclosure camp, or, at least, more so than the PtB?

    Watch for the role of Russia/Putin.  

    Maybe suppose that it’s the autocrats/oligarchs vs the NWO = socialism.

    That would put the Pentagon on the side of the socialists.  That makes some sense.  

    The socialists have their hearts in the right place, it’s just that their metaphysics is a bit misguided....... they are trying to put the cart before the horse........ before the chicken?  

    We’re all gonna end up in the same place, regardless....... it’s just a question of how quickly...... and with how much drama.  Is the chicken a drama queen?  Maybe a little bit.  


    4...........

    Aren’t d&c storming the gates of Heaven?  

    We are....... but........

    It may be part of the plan.  It’s called the synchronous hatching strategy.  The only way to overwhelm the yjuj majuj.  

    Otherwise, they would just sit at the portals...... picking us off, one by one.  

    According to Islamic eschatology, Gog and Magog are two corrupt powers that will ravaged the Earth at the end of the world.  

    Let’s consider that........

    To get from here, Omega, back to where we started, Alpha, the signs of civilization will have to be removed....... back to the Megalithic, at least........ as we leave ‘zero’ footprints.  

    Maybe Gog and Magog are just the cleanup crew..... working overtime...... poor guys.  


    5............

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/russian-military-undercuts-trump-by-expressing-valid-doubts-about-the-reality-and-success-of-isis-raid/
    Hmmm..........

    Is there something fishy in the state of Denmark?  

    I’m guessing the AlB is already in the Ukrainia Hotel in Moscow, along with OBL and Kashoggi.  

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia-trumps-baghdadi-victory-lap-is-nothing-but-propaganda  
    Kremlin-controlled Russian state media shot down President Trump’s announcement, with headlines that read: “The Russian Defense Ministry does not believe in al-Baghdadi’s liquidation.” Major General Igor Konashenkov scoffed at the changing details of the operation, with Trump adding alleged participants and various countries that supposedly took part in the raid, “each with completely contradictory details,” which Konashenkov said “raises reasonable questions and doubts about [the operation’s] veracity, not to mention success.”

    Suppose then it was simply a sham........ or this was a way to get Al out of harm’s way....... to extract him from ISIS....... before Disclosure comes down.  How would he be such a PoI?  

    He might be another actuator.  The oligarchs in the know are trying to get the portals in row....... just for their own personal use, as with  Alternative 3?  Or it might be something slightly less selfish.  

    Imagine that, sports fans.



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:43 pm

    I’m watching the story of ALB unfold.

    Lots of entangled parties in this story.

    Keep your eyes peeled people.
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    “The fool lives but for today; the philosopher lives forever.”
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    Post by dan Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:33 am

    So, where are we........ connecting the dots......  

    Talking about a few weeks....... three years ago it was a few months.  Now it looks like we’re back to the election cycle.  Then we have the pullout and the questionable raid.  

    If it was an extraction, it was all planned in meticulous detail, months in advance...... it’s going to be complicated....... until it’s the simplest thing on Earth.  

    How could alB be so critical...... even under the rubric of personalism?  

    He would be a Trump-like figure...... years in the grooming, as was Obama, and many others..... Putin and Xi, particularly.  

    The actors are being brought into position.  Politics in Washington is still a controlling factor.  

    Keep in mind, that alB is the most explicitly eschatological figure that we now have on board.  We also have MS13..... connect that dot..... it might have to do with our slush fund, for example...... among other things.  

    Before we consider the prospect, we might go retro........

    Sputnik was big...... so were Ike and Jack K.  

    Anthropics was big.  And how many connected that with the mind-brain problem.  There was something fishy in the state of science.  

    In the background of Anthropics was the time pressure from our reproductive proclivity.  There was going to be a reckoning.  

    All that came to a head, leading up to my rendezvous with foot...... ostensibly about crop circles.  

    Crop circles.......?

    Yes, I should mention that there had been three rather explicit encounters with the other side......... ‘66, ‘77 & ‘91.   There were no explicit entities involved....... ‘91 was several days of synchronicities.  ‘66 was just the dark night......

    The rest is on the timeline..... http://bestpossibleworld.com/nexu66.htm#timeline

    If donny is re-elected, will we be back to kicking the can down the road?  This is my biggest question.  

    I’m guessing that this is not an option, at this point.  

    Disclosure will be ‘forced’ prior to the election..... in the next few weeks.  

    The investigation will be turning up more anomalies.  The anomalies will be leaking into the press.  There will be more questions, and more pointed questions.  

    Have any anomalies leaked, so far?  

    Generally, more folks are wondering how donny got this far.  

    And there is the Kiviat lawsuit.  That could be easily stage managed.  

    There must be several ufologists who are ready to connect the dots..... starting with Grant Cameron.  Richard Dolan would not be far behind.  

    Joe could be put forward, at about any time.  And let us not forget TTSA.  They have been suspiciously quiet.  

    Then the big question is how to handle the metaphysics..... how much more can the technological aspect be flogged, before we get into consciousness?  


    1:40........

    As soon as foot comes into the picture, there will be a turn to the weird...... to the anomalous.  Then things will start getting real personal..... real quick.  There will be a long overdue pile on.  

    It will be all about who knew what, and when did they know it.  

    Even if we could flog the technology for another year or two, the main question will be....... ok, so..... who is on the other end of the phone?

    And who has been in charge of the coverup?  

    That is the question that the Dolan/Wilson document has raised.  

    The first question in journalism is always........ who?  


    2:30........

    Talk about mainstream, this was way back on April 5....... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8735600/tv-producer-sues-cia-scientist-government-ufo-cover-up-anti-gravity-research-project/ ...... even before the chicken was repositioned to under the bus.  

    It may be that any who get ahead of the timeline are apprised of the existing timeline, and brought on board the bus, if they cooperate.  The bus is still highly compartmentalized.  The partitions are being lowered in a systematic fashion.  Yes, we’re talking weeks.  

    There would be a lot of pressure to leak.  There would have to be a major plumbing effort...... as on a submarine.  Sorry to mix the metaphors.  

    One way to control leaks is the Scheherazade strategy....... redirected leaks....... internally and externally...... there is plenty of background material to keep folks glued to the timeline.  At this level, you would have to be highly monitored.  

    At some point, the existence of the bus itself becomes the main story.  

    How crowded is the bus, at this point?

    I have suggested that there may be on the order of 10k who are aware that something is going on....... something concerted.  

    They can be aware in an official or unofficial capacity.  They may have primarily direct or primarily intuitive knowledge.  

    Your average experiencer would have no clue.  

    The movies would likely be the main channel of information for most.  

    What about the tic-tac story?  Wouldn’t that have convinced many more?  

    I think we would have to have a separate bus for those folks....... there would be a large trailer.  The second NYT story may have been the main PNR..... the primary, the final decision point.  This came shortly after my repositioning.  

    One might suppose that, if any of this were true, there would be more folks at OM.  Saving the OM appearances would be a priority, obviously.  

    Once you see the footprint, the chicken droppings cannot be far behind.  

    Everyone on the bus would be aware of both.  How many, then?  Only 1k might take it seriously.  The rest of the 10k would be back in the trailer.  

    What would be happening is that more of the 10k foot fans begin to realize that the chicken droppings would explain a lot of the weirdness, and also the self containment of the core story....... and they would be trickling back onto the bus.  

    That trickle would be spontaneous, until it started going viral.  

    How effective are our antiviral measures?  

    Those with access to the business end of the other side, know the when more than they know the particulars...... weeks.  

    Then there is donny and his tweets.  He would be getting an itchy finger....... one silly tweet, and game’s over.  If his phone has been repositioned...... it would be a slip of the lips.  

    It may be Nancy who is holding the final card........ donny’s final straw.  

    Otherwise, it will just be viral city.  

    The sequence of straws and virals has probably already been set, and is known....... already choreographed...... like everything else.  


    6:15...........

    There is also the option of having an academic get out in front of immaterialism, at the last moment....... let’s consider......

    Although not an academic, I was working on the academic side of immaterialism for a decade, before I was caught up in phenomenology during my bout of synchronicity in 1991.  

    Would it be possible to garner academic accolades without becoming entangled in phenomenology.  

    The reason I avoided entanglement for so long was because I was exploring mainly the prophetic side of immaterialism...... the idea of a MoAPS.  In that context, the only phenomenology came in the context of eschatology.  

    Looking at immaterialism prophetically, was going more against the academic grain than is phenomenology, especially after the NYT lead.

    With the prophetic angle, you encounter the chicken.  

    With the phenomenological angle, you encounter the foot.  We have you coming and going.  

    In other words, it’s a bit late in the game to be sidestepping the chicken.  

    Even if one managed to gain traction independently, the precedents would surface within days...... if not hours.  

    I suspect that these precedents are already common knowledge amongst the cognoscenti, academic and otherwise.  



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:14 am

    The politics of disclosure can get a bit messy at times.

    It’s hard to keep track of who knows what and who knows who.

    I believe that when it comes to disclosure it’s about who you know as much as anything else.

    It was no coincidence I met the Family when I did.

    Everything seems to be lined up perfectly as far as the timing of disclosure goes.

    I’m wondering when the next shoe will drop and who has need of information Alpha and Omega.

    Did you see the look on Donny’s face when he got booed at the World Series game?

    Bahahahaha!

    At least he’s got Melania to hold at night.
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    Post by dan Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:35 am

    In the Coincidence thread, smelly writes......
    When the ego is about to be unmasked, it shapeshifts into the self.
    ......nice try.  A bit later......
    Philosophy today has lost its way looking for the meaning of meaning.
    I do have a soft spot in my heart for good ol’ Sophie.

    Oh, yes, philosophy lost its way....... lost in a hermetic labyrinth of its own making..... only reflecting the dire straits of humanity.  

    The chicken is just in time to save humanity...... within a few weeks, mind you.  

    Of course, I wouldn’t be able to do this without smelly, bless his peripatetic heart.  

    Humanity is lost in the labyrinth of analysis..... chasing after meaning, if you will.  

    It was a two dog night for VO Quine, back in 1950, when he saw the end of analysis, right there in the dictionary...... comparable to 1905, when Einstein saw the end of physics.  The chicken didn’t see the end of the world until Masquerade in 1981.  

    So, smelly is right about the ego, but goes off the mark with the self.  

    smelly hasn’t done his homework...... doesn’t know Quine or the history of philosophy....... but he does know how to get under my skin.  That will suffice unto the day.  

    If smelly understood the self, he would understand history....... the meaning of time, etc.......

    Yes, the self is an illusion, but it is a bootstrapping illusion.  Poor smelly, he never met Geoffrey Chew...... that was well before his time.  

    I wonder what smelly makes of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs?

    Yes, smelly was touched by an angel, and now he is determined to measure the rest of us by his angel.  

    We are found wanting..... in smelly’s balance.  

    Selves only serve love...... love invented selves...... all the better to bootstrap by.  

    We love to hate donny, don’t we?  Poor little donny.  donny is poor like a fox.... right out of central casting.  

    donny sets the stage for someone like the chicken...... what a relief!? The chicken scratches are on the wall.  

    We have a little fireside chat about the birds.... the bees.... and the best possible world...... as we collapse into the singularity of love.  

    This is the meaning of meaning, smelly...... get over it.  


    noon/gmt-3...........

    The Alpha and the Omega..... these provide time with meaning.  This is  how time gets its gravitas.  Otherwise, smelly would just float away on the lightness of being.  This is boots on the ground, as the Princess would say.  

    Yes, the Alpha and Omega shield us from Eternity.

    Revelation is when the veil is rent, from top to bottom. This is the Apocalypse. Put that in your tea and drink it, smelly.

    The Princess and the chicken pin the Telos on the donkey..... right on donny’s golden Ass.



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:05 am

    Boots on the ground is all about leaving those ninety and nine to go find the one.
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    Post by dan Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:15 am

    Ack,

    With smelly’s help, we’ve found the One.  

    Now we can lead 99 to the Truth...... can’t we, Linda?  

    Hail, hail, the gang’s all here....... what the heck do we care?  

    But where is Cy, bless her heart?  I hope her new home on the prairie is working out.  


    Yes, smelly is the grain of sand that produces the pearl of great price.  

    That is the meaning of meaning.  

    Poetry is wonderful, but...... Truth does have its Alpha and Omega..... its rough edges...... enough so to wake us from our slumber of materialism.  


    Where does meaning come from?

    Where does it go?

    Animals sense food..... they sense danger.

    That’s what sentience is for.

    What is meaning for?



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:47 am

    So Dan, as a self proclaimed eschatologist and the SoT, what is your professional opinion on the current state of the world?

    What are we looking at in terms of the second coming?

    Will there be a millennium and when will the millennium kick off....if it hasn't already?

    Smelly wants us to forget the eschaton.

    Can we really forget the eschaton?

    What if the eschaton won't forget us?

    Can we really discard the prophetic tradition once we align with the truth?

    The tea leaves are the writing on the wall.

    ............

    Dan, the meaning of life is life itself.

    What would life be without creation?


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    Post by dan Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:57 am

    The Millennium, the Rapture, Armageddon and the Apocalypse are upon us.  

    When it rains, it pours.

    This is the best possible time for it to pour.  It is the dawning of that Aeon...... the Omega.  

    Trust the chicken....... this has been written in the stars of Eternity.  

    These are the signs of the times...... the meaning of meaning.  This is why our boots have been on the ground.  

    Now we build the New Jerusalem...... yes, it has already been prepared for us, but you know what I mean...... coCreators that we are.  

    The new Jerusalem is our Mothership in the sky.  It is where we meet our Maker....... where we come to know ourselves for the first time....... Booo!  

    It is our Masquerade at the end of the universe...... where our masks finally come off....... at midnight.



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:58 am

    Yes Dan I agree.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:21 am

    You did misunderstand me a little Dan.

    There is the Philosopher’s Stone.

    There is wisdom and folly.

    One must come to love wisdom, but the ego does not love wisdom.

    The ego loves only itself.

    And that’s ok.

    For much of the journey the ego is 1UPing the self as the self is discovered.

    It shapeshifts to take on any form to distract us.

    But who or what is discovering the Self?

    As we watch, the ego tries to become while it is being exposed.

    The Self, the secret fire of the Philosopher’s stone.

    The pearl can form under the right conditions.

    The materialists say the earth is accidentally the best for us.

    Bahahahahaha

    If one goes back and traces our footsteps, it’s clear we turned our eye from ourselves.

    But the search out there always leads here.

    We have lost most of the real Philosophers.

    Jorjani is one.

    Pierre Grimes is one.

    There are others who hide in the open too.

    Are we still needing what the Underworld is offering?

    Of course.

    Do we need to go and take it?

    If we can.

    This life is one I am making as I go.

    I am not following our cultural templates any longer.

    The maps are wrong mostly.

    Some take this inside and wander off, others commit themselves to sharing it.

    I don’t speak up much anymore.

    It only makes trouble.

    If I am not calm, who will be?

    If I don’t think, who will?

    If I don’t know my self, who does?

    If I am silent, who shall speak for the living and the dead?

    Listen, I know the daimonic realm is real.

    I know the UFOs are trickster daimons.

    They seem to have a lot more fun than us.

    Of course the incorporeal envy us sometimes and sometimes we want to be invisible.

    All I can say, it’s a party in here.

    It’s nice to be home.

    I’ll speak more of the secret fire, but it won’t make much sense.

    I have some sense of it.

    Plato is helping me out for the time being.

    We see the world through the world we see.

    We can arrange the forms and archetypes anyway we like.

    Postmodernism’s motto could be, all human understanding is interpretation and no interpretation is final.

    The rational ego tends toward mechanistic views of being.

    The world is not dualistic, it’s participatory, which science has been grappling with.

    The mind is intelligible to itself.

    I only describe the uncovered fire.

    The secret of the secret fire is for one’s self.

    It lies behind silence in darkness.

    One form of it is like wildfire.
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    Post by dan Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:05 pm

    smelly,

    Thank you for introducing us to Pierre Grimes.

    His pointing to the parallel approaches to the self of East and West are crucial to understanding the personalism of the BPWH.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:35 pm

    I agree Dan about Pierre.

    His Noetic society translates Plato themselves.

    I’ve been working through their Republic.

    Lots of Pierre vids too.

    He’s a treasure.

    He is pointing clearly to the self.

    He is a zen master as well and a knower of self.

    They are not mutually exclusive.

    I kind of found his path and he was a good friend of Alan Watts.

    He explains so clearly what Watts was up to.

    There are always a few on earth that show what we may become.
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    What falls up is coming down

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    Post by dan Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:49 am

    Ok, sports fans,

    Enough is enough........ that’s what I’m telling you.  

    I’m the adult in the room...... I’m the decider.  

    I know, Aaron still wants more...... the Mormons still want more.  

    They will get more, but just for themselves...... until they’ve finally agreed........ enough is enough.  

    There was only one big thing that many of us were holding out for...... the MoAPS and the 4M/K/SoT/X2...... and this is it.  

    Are you satisfied?  You’d better be, because what you see is what you get.  Are we going to cry about it?  

    Or are you going to be a grown up?

    Even foot has come around....... ISIS will get its slice of Syria, and this is their Eschaton.  Yes, this is the Eschaton.  History is ending...... in its own sweet way..... on its own sweet time..... but, yes, the show is over...... especially for Capitalism.  Growth for growth’s sake is over.  Capitalism has done its job...... thank you very much, all you fat cats....... now, go away.  

    Is donny finished?  If he’s got any brains left, he’d skedaddle while the skedaddling is still good.  Do we really have to ride you out on a rail, donny?  

    Ok, donny........ you’re fired!  Are you satisfied, now?  

    Yes, Gary and Tuna are also holding out.  Come on guys, get over it.  Grow up......
    When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.
    Yes, I know....... it’s tough, but you’ll get used to it...... trust me.  

    Yes, I’ll get my fifteen minutes of glory, but that will be more than enough....... trust me.  99% of the fun was getting here.  

    But the Footmann had better hold on tight to his Princess....... just sayin’.  



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    Do I look like I want more to you?

    I don’t think so.


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