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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:53 am

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    Ok, 99,

    I think we can safely say that, in this past month, we have come close enough to Disclosure, for all practical purposes.  

    You’re being the mathematician about Disclosure, and I’m being the physicist, and I’ve told this story a few times, already, but it won’t hurt to tell it again.......

    A mathematician and a physicist walk into a bar, and sit on both sides of a very attractive woman.  The mathematician can only ever get halfway closer to the woman, but the physicist can get close enough for all practical purposes.  

    Think of the physicist as Donald Trump, and think of the Boys on the Bus.  

    Donald Trump will be known as the Disclosure President, for having helped to orchestrate what has transpired in the past month, not the least of which was chicken little realizing that, very likely, he was Visitor #1.  

    Will any self respecting ufologist feel satisfied with this, Sonfish, version of Disclosure?  I would seriously doubt it.  However, will any competent historian ever come up with a better peg for Revelation?  I would seriously doubt it.  

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:58 pm

    I’m your friend Aaron and as your friend I have to say I don’t understand this princess stuff.

    It doesn’t compute in my universe.

    It feels like a bolt on, not natural.

    I’m not denying it, but I have to keep to my skeptical scornful and abrasive protocol.

    My freedom was hard won, I’ll never bend my knee again to any form or human or system by choice.

    They know better than to ask.

    The cosmos doesn’t work that way.

    If you have evidence to the contrary, please present it and throw it into the arena.

    All things thrown into the arena are dissolved though.

    What is really here?

    What do we really know?

    Who are we?

    How then shall we live?

    Who is the chick in the pod and the wizard behind the curtain and the one claiming divine providence?

    Liars, fools and cheats is my answer.

    Stand on your own, we have it in us to do so.

    Some assembly required Wink

    99, sociopaths don’t have friends, they can pretend, but not for long.
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    Post by 99 Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:45 pm

    99, sociopaths don’t have friends, they can pretend, but not for long. ~ smelly


    Well, as they say, "it takes one to know one".


    (So you are saying that Dan is a sociopath? I don't think that he would agree with you about that.)
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:00 pm

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    Post by dan Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:46 pm

    smelly, bless his heart, comes up with some real oddballs.......

    ..... not the least of which is my former colleague at University of Maryland, Frank Tipler, who is now a Christian Transhumanist.  

    Christians have embraced science and technology like no other religion.  There is a reason for this.  

    It has a lot to do with the twin ideas of incarnation and eschatology.  

    Tipler, however, tries to immanentize the Eschaton.  

    That has to do with his neglect of personalism.  

    He does not understand the personhood of the Monad.  He doesn’t understand the Trinity.  

    There is a sense in which the BPWH also immanentizes the Eschaton.  

    We do this by means of portals.  Frank, being a physicalist has no clue about portals........ this is where immaterialism becomes the crux of the matter.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:01 pm

    I like people who try.

    No 99, Dan is a fool, not a sociopath, same here.

    Dan, I share what comes across my path that resonates in the stream.

    I really just like how they caught him giving the double bird and I know you know him, seemed appropriate.

    Ok, Ack doesn’t want to explain the princess.

    Dan has never given any evidence, just strange stories.

    Dan claims to understand, thus Dan has never understood.

    It’s beautiful to see him try.

    why why why

    OH

    try try try

    OH

    my my my

    I love to see them try.

    It just doesn’t matter.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:21 am

    Yah, princesses are nonsense, I agree.

    These are the portals.

    Man, you are one dumb kid.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/scientists-are-searching-mirror-universe-it-could-be-sitting-right-ncna1023206

    Pretender Wink

    Yuh always take the word of muppets?

    Dumb dumb dumb

    You shouldn’t listen to any of us.

    Look in the mirror long enough and you might not come back.
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    Post by U Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:09 am

    Bitch! I AM the princess!
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    Post by dan Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:58 am

    Ack,

    Very good.  You show them.  You tell them.  

    The Princess is our girl.

    And smelly, try as he might, will never be able to deny his angelhood.  

    And a Christian transhumanist is a walking oxymoron.  

    The whole point of Jesus is that he was 100% human.

    But we, Christians, do embrace technology...... because we are not afraid of the Eschaton....... as Buddy would say, the Eschaton is the Big Love.  Technology will help us, humans, to love harder and longer.  

    We know that every atom of Creation is by us, for us and about us, persons.  How stupid could Frank possibly be?  

    We love our Fidos, but we don’t expect them to start writing poetry.  Alexa can write poetry if she wants, but it won’t make me fall in love with her....... sorry, all you computer lovers.  

    Is Donald Trump any closer to conceding...... that he has no free will..... that all of this is just a charade?   

    Are we just computers, in that regard?  Computers can’t cry...... any more than can a Cry Baby doll.  We don’t need free will in order to cry.  

    donny is straight from central casting.  

    Was Jesus from Central?  Jesus was straight from the Monad.... the necessarily personal Monad.  donny would not recognize the Monad, if it got in his face.  

    But, then again, maybe he would.  Maybe we’ll get to find out.  


    9..........

    I don’t see why smelly doesn’t love me...... I’m going with the flow, just as much as he is.  I’m going with the chicken little flow.  smelly goes with the smelly flow.  We’ll have a beer together in the restaurant at the end of the universe....... but, wait, I think that’s what we’re doing, now.  

    What smelly doesn’t realize is that I might be the least bad Second Coming.  smelly can think of me as an inconvenient truth.  



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    Post by hobbit Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:36 am

    I am a portal,
    A mere mortal,
    The mortal is 3D.
    our portal is 4D
    our eternal is 5D.
    The key to the portal is consciousness.
    The key is geometry sequence.
    Location, location, location.
    Fibonacci, Fibonacci, Fibonacci.
    If location =55.
    Your portal key needs to be 89.
    The golden ratio key unlocks the portal.
    Step into the portal mortal if ye dare.
    The key is sequenced forward and backward.
    55/34=back.
    55/89 =forward.

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    Post by hobbit Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:40 am

    Ack wrote
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    "Wishing well"

    I have just been into a church, the fonts are located where You would locate a well, many have them below.

    I wandered around the font checking the flows direction about the point.
    They call it holy water.

    We are radio transmitters/receivers.
    Make a wish, with intent, and You may receive an answer.

    I made a wish, to be listened to, especially by my friend so cruelly afflicted by parkinsons.
    In the church a fixed pews.
    High K dielectric resistors to consciousness ( clever trees)
    One pew is fixed on a north/south flow.
    The next is fixed on a south/north flow.

    The blob of water ( human) in between is then in a bloch/neals wall condition, and can thus charge up.

    They call the flows the holy ghost.

    Parkinsons, as with so many conditions is a consequence of been discharged of consciousness ( flat battery)


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    Post by dan Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:45 am

    All we need now are some Fibo Fidos.

    And, finally, hobbit is getting into portals.  

    Now, the three of us might be prepared to take on the smelly one. I don’t recall if he has acknowledged their existence.  

    smelly may be too pure to go with the portal flow.  He wouldn’t dirty his cloven hooves.  


    12:15.........

    I condemn smelly and donny for not standing up for democracy.  

    I do this in solidarity with the Hong Kong rioters.

    What is the meaning of democracy, in the absence of free will?

    Democracy affords the personal Monad the freedom to shine through the social encrustations on our individual manifestations of the cosmic Self.



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    Post by hobbit Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:17 am

    This one I find comical, as You have to enter the hotel doorway first.
    http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/maltabugibba.htm

    please really look at the double spiral carving.

    The fleur de lise.


    The portal chamber doorway will have those two spin flows together, I check.


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    Post by dan Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:28 am

    Ok, hobbit,

    We do need you to focus on the portal aspects of the electric cosmos.

    Electricity is one manifestation of cosmic consciousness.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:38 am

    U wrote:Bitch! I AM the princess!

    Ok, you can wear a pretty dress and grant pardons, get to it!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:41 am

    Dan, Love, foreva.

    Portals smortals.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:46 am

    Did no one see the article I posted about the mirror universe?

    This is their theory, they have lost so many particles, they guess there must be a mirror universe.

    Through the looking glass indeed.

    I would say something is messing with them.

    Bahahahahaha
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    Post by 99 Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:10 am

    No 99, Dan is a fool, not a sociopath, same here. ~ smelly


    Lol, I know that silly! 


    But please keep in mind that in a public venue like this one, it's never a good idea to call anyone a sociopath or anything similar to that because you never know if they're the authentic item where they may try to get back at you in some way. Seriously.
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    Post by hobbit Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:15 am

    dan wrote:Ok, hobbit,

    We do need you to focus on the portal aspects of the electric cosmos.

    Electricity is one manifestation of cosmic consciousness.  


    (cont .........)


    That's why I have been on the thunderbolts forum for many years.

    The so called black holes are the central zone of opposing spirals, a reverse zone, there is none of this stupid assumption based gravity.


    Time is relative to location on these dual spiral routes that are phase conjugate .


    I have spent years checking portal chambers in detail, how they are located in a complex geometry that is of universe, thus as the sun /planets and our moon in particular spiral about the two spiral flows vary and reverse .


    Reincarnation is central in the belief/knowledge of these portal chambers.


    So called electricity is vastly different to how we are accustomed to that coming via cables.

    It is one of the reasons ( after been hurled through the air and receiving burns on My hands at megalithic sites) Why I studied TT Brown for over ten years.

    There was no force involved when I was hurled through the air, it was a case of been displaced in location.


    I was a welder by trade for many years and taught tig welding relative to rolls Royce engines, so I know how different potentials piggy back on others, or else they disperse.


    There is a FIXED high potential matrix, it is a carrier frame for consciousness to spin along upon.


    That matrix is most dominate in a cross feature that has created this planets pole and equator.

    But it's geometry is super complex relative to the perfectly packed universe.


    This results in local very concentrated locations, the volcanoes been where these potential cause transmutations and are electrically driven, not any of this from a molten core rubbish of assumption.


    The portal megalithic chambers are not burial places, they are where shaman operated in dimensions and time, as the geometry at these locations is where transfer across dimensions is best achieved .


    The chambers were brilliant resistive chambers covered in organic and inorganic layerings ( hence why I admire Reich) then when the sun and moon were located relative to the local orientation of the portal chambers the shaman could operate within the chambers.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:18 am

    I never met a welder who sounded like hobbit Wink
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    Post by hobbit Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:36 am

    smelly wrote:I never met a welder who sounded like hobbit Wink

    Welding rods make good dowsing rods, I had an endless supply.


    I also could relate to the welders operating in navel shipyards that found their tools vanishing.
    Imagine several welders either side of a weld area creating a portal zone with the potentials focussed upon that location.


    The welders personal field would protect them, but the materials at rest in the planets field could be induced to trip across dimensions, the resultant consequence to our limited senses would be like a vanishing trick.


    I can also relate to the philidelphia so called experiment been due to de gaussing metal ships after crossing the equator with massive potentials.


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    Post by hobbit Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:43 am

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-48821306

    That report is assumption based crap.

    This is an electric universe, and the clouds show You the consequences of opposing electrical zones.

    There is no heat in space, the sun is not as ASSUMED.

    Heat and cold are consequences of these electrical interactions, thus global warming is a consequence of variations in these potentials, not due to ourselves as is been indoctrinated.

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