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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:14 pm

    Here I will ramble about the Disclosure movement and the strange happenings on planet Earth from an outsider and skeptical perspective.

    I will share my strange personal 🖼️ and view on life.

    Smelly 🐐 is a shaman and mystic 🧙‍ traveler 🧳

    A high priest of all religions and none.

    I have been over the 🌈  and come back to tell the tale.

    Philosophy is my way of life.

    I am an artist and poet, a lover of all fine and lowly things in this world.

    I have crossed the Abyss and have been set free by LOVE!

    I have found the center of the Labyrinth and been eaten and digested by God.

    I exist on the other side of the hole in the sky and here in body.

    I am reaching up and down into this world to provide guidance and help, but really, you can only help yourself.

    I am here to help awaken the sleepers and watch over the flock.

    Let us walk this life together then and share each other’s burdens.

    Let us love the least of us.

    I am in contact with my Daimon, my Holy Guardian Angel, and these ramblings are a peak into our secret dialogue.

    My religion is Knowing Thyself.

    My heart is aflame with LOVE of all Being.

    I speak with the Great Dragon 🐉 and vibrate with Source.

    I know the dark side and the light, but now I stand in the Sun sunny and under the Dark Sun 🌚 and I say to the Thunder Beings, I have felt your call and I will do my part!

    Set my tongue and pen on 🔥

    I give myself as a servant to all willingly.

    Careful, you may get 🔥 YMMV here.

    I salute my past mentor and interlocutor, Dan “The Man” Smith and all the others.

    Much love and respect to my OMF friends.

    Follow my blog if you like, https://quantumhe.art

    A new podcast will be showing up soon.

    We are just getting started.

    If you want to ever chat or message me, you can do so below if you prefer a 1:1 tête-à-tête.

    My up close magick is top notch.

    I am always open and available.

    I am not hiding.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:34 pm

    Some new verse from down under…

    I’ve Got The Music In Me

    I ran from love terrified
    Until I could go no further
    There I collapsed…finished
    But I heard something
    In my dirt filled ears
    Lying in the land of the dead
    It was the softest music at first
    Like nothing I had ever heard before
    Slowly I began to feel the tug of gravity
    Suddenly it lifted me up up up
    Out of the dirt
    All the way into the big endless sky
    Suddenly clouds of dark matter split wide
    A golden light
    Unlike anything I had ever seen
    Shot right through me
    I felt love in every cell screaming
    Love had raised me from the dead
    Then I heard thunderous words
    Echoing from everywhere at once

    NOTHING COULD EVER SEPARATE YOU FROM MY I love you

    Then I heard every cell
    In me singing
    I found the music
    Was always in me
    I just never heard it
    Like Apollo singing
    Through the underworld
    Nothing can touch me now
    I’ve got the music in me

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:43 pm

    Some new high strangeness from Jack Sarfatti, that old Physics pirate.



    I think he’s onto something.

    Crazy 😜 he may be.

    One has to go crazy to know crazy.

    Now I feel true Disclosure can only come from Knowing Thyself, but As Above, So Below.

    What happens inside, reflects outside of us and vice versa.

    He has some hypotheses about backward causality, the future exists and influences the past, same for the present.

    It can start to hurt your head.

    He maintains a private email group with all the weirdos and some well known scientists and fringe artists.

    I used to belong to it and had some fun conversations with Deepak Chopra back in the day and other weirdos.

    Dan still participates there I believe or he did until he cracked up recently.

    Jack influenced physics, not just a kook, see “How the Hippies Saved Physics.”

    Yes, he is a narcissist and self aggrandizer extraordinaire and maybe a bit of a con man, but with a trickster wink and nod.

    I personally love the rascals best.

    https://www.audible.com/pd/How-the-Hippies-Saved-Physics-Audiobook/B00563QM5I?source_code=GO1GB547041122911M&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuPCAx7Sp-wIVqBXUAR17IwttEAAYASAAEgKYCPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

    He is not metaphysical anymore, all hard physics with Jack.

    I have tangled with Jack several times and he is one strange dude.

    He didn’t even remember me recently, he is pushing 83.

    See his dialogues in Dan Smith’s Personalism 101 thread here on OMF I recently posted.

    https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t418p650-personalism-101#40831

    He and Dan Smith engaged in several dialogues over the years, public and private.

    Very fun speculative stuff.

    His high weirdness was as a kid, he received a phone call from an AI calling from the future.

    Bahahaha

    No joshing, check out his strange story on the Interwebs.

    Our resident High Weirdo, Chicken “Dan” Little on OMF got involved in the strange due partly to Jack’s influence.

    Many a strange one has met Jack, me included.

    He used to consult for the CIA with a Ron Pandolfi supposedly and I’m sure others and still works in strange esoteric circles and for the wealthy now.

    Ron supposedly was an analyst and ran the Weird Desk at the CIA.

    I claim none of the stories of others true.

    I can only give my own true account of my life.

    You can find Jack’s high weirdness on YouTube.

    Ron is a real strange name on the Interwebs.

    Probably a false name, all names are.

    But that is the public face of a strange character.

    I don’t care for spooks myself.

    They have it all wrong and backwards.

    They are trapped in a way.

    Poor muppets.

    Trapped by knowledge.

    We will talk much more about Ron, also apparently a friend of Dan Smith of OMF.

    https://diydrones.com/members/RonaldPandolfi

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campfin/stories/satellite120598.htm

    Supposedly Dan and Ron are good friends.

    Supposedly the Footman account here on OMF is written by his blockheads and sometimes maybe Ron himself.

    I have made it my goal to stick my finger in their eye when I can.

    Kind of my claim to fame here on OMF.

    So who knows what’s true or how deep that weird 🐇 🕳️ goes.

    I have had quite a fun time tormenting them, but I am done playing with him and his blockheads.

    They are boring and not very intelligent.

    Dan Smith is good friends with Ron and his wife the Princess, Aaliyah, so the story goes.

    I know someone who was close to this Princess 👸 character.

    Supposedly she, Dan, and Ron are aliens, metaphorical I feel.

    See the CORE story.

    Hehe, I told ya, this place is weird and filled with strange characters.

    My friend recounts some strange tales with the Princess.

    Doug Auld, on the OMF forum, is also good friends with them.

    Another weirdo, https://dougauld.com/, quite an accomplished artist apparently.

    He knows a lot of the UFO weirdos and paints them.

    Mostly I think they have misunderstood their experiences.

    Kinda strange, right?

    I suspect Doug must have been in the intelligence community.

    I don’t really know his biography.

    I have been engaged mostly with one man the 6 or so years on OMF, Dan Smith.

    I may yet write a book, we will see.

    OMF could be a dead letter drop for them.

    Regardless, spooks ain’t too bright.

    I will share what I know in time, which isn’t much.

    I only keep a side eye on this weirdness.

    There are very strange mythologies intersecting here on OMF.

    Take all you find on the Interwebs as content from tricksters.

    You can’t really trust anyone.

    Trust is earned.

    But in today’s wacky world, the sheep will believe anything their chosen messiahs tell them.

    See the poor lost angry Baby Boomers.

    We just beat their tails in the election.

    For they are dwindling and moving off the earth now.

    In 20 years, I’ll be part of the old ones on earth.

    I’ll have to help the newer generations and Dan and Jack will be gone.

    So in a way, I’m in school now.

    No one knows how much time they have.

    But my Daimon told me I would have a long life, unusually long and that I would be busier in the last quarter of my life than the rest of my earlier life combined.

    Great!

    I’m another weirdo.

    I had my own connection to source and high strangeness and I have used OMF to document my inner journey as an art project.

    It was more a rhetorical journal.

    I just want to piddle in my garden really and live with my dogs and princess in peace in my old age.

    Anyway, the boomers are twisted up inside and out, most of them will follow any pied piper.

    It’s sad how unprepared the flock is to fend off the wolves.

    You must extract yourself from the zeitgeist and fog of culture and clear your head and educate yourself through knowing yourself to face this illusory idolized world of representations.

    It is a powerful illusion.

    See the philosopher Guy Debord and his book, Society of the Spectacle.

    He killed himself from the depression of this society.

    This happens to geniuses often.

    He didn’t make the rainbow 🌈 connection.

    But I think he was spot on.

    Most are too stupid and distracted to see what the system they are living in is.

    They blindly participate and consume.

    I am cursed with curiosity, insight and a quick keen mind.

    I’m a writer, artist, and engineer myself.

    I am not depressed, nor would I ever take my own life, unless due to great illness perhaps.

    Anyway.

    Jack has a hypothesis about warp drive derived from the UAP gravity technology that has been observed.

    I’m sure Jack is still connected to the intelligence community, but he recently emailed me back insisting he was no longer in that circle.

    Yah right Jack.

    His message to the powerful is, you ain’t got no power, gig is up.

    This ties into Disclosure of course. See all the Disclosure blogs and YouTube content out there today.

    The Emperor has no clothes.

    We are in strange waters here muppets.

    Kansas has gone bye bye, but the world keeps going on as if nothing strange is happening.

    It is kinda scary how ignorant everyone remains playing their chosen parts on the big stage.

    We were made to act our part.

    Only weirdos like me become backstage players.

    We get to see how the show is produced.

    I feel privileged to be let in the back door 🚪

    I kinda kicked it in Wink
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:17 pm

    Next up, an outsiders view of Disclosure presented in a series of posts.

    What is it?

    Let’s try to cobble together a basic primer.

    - We will cover the main players.
    - We will explore propaganda and social engineering and its relation to the psychology of Disclosure.
    - We will cover the CORE story.
    - We will briefly summarize what has happened to date and provide a rough timeline.
    - We will consider the metaphysical aspects of Disclosure.
    - We will cover what Know Thyself means, my personal view of real Disclosure.
    - We will consider Disclosure as a new religion as Jacques Valle and other smart folks have hypothesized.
    - We will consider whether Disclosure is a bunch of aggregated PsyOps.
    - We will explore Dan’s connection to the topic.

    And much more over the next few weeks.  

    In the meantime, we will start with a recent YouTube from one of the modern apostles of Disclosure, Steven Greer.

    You must always look at the motivations for the public figures discussing topics.

    My motivation is simply one of discovery and curiosity.

    I have absolutely no political agenda.

    The TOE channel is quite good and an outside view of the topic.

    My next post will present my analysis of this discussion.

    We will look from the outside in.



    Stay tuned…
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    Post by U Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:39 pm

    Yes, yes, yes. This passes inspection quite handily!

    All your numbers are up to snuff.

    We shall be keeping a close eye on this business!
    🧑‍🔬

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    Post by 99 Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:53 pm

    I'll read all this over tomorrow morning.

    Good start Chivo!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:55 pm

    Mr. Dolan was very excited about this.

    Dropping all the big names.

    They want to get to the center of the Labyrinth.

    When they get there, they will find a smelly 🐐 staring back at them.



    The guests name is Omegapoint.

    That correlates with Dan on our very own OMF.

    Ron is down at Buenos Aires and is making different stops so the chicken says.

    They are hunting the Aviary.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:03 pm

    Yea SERPO, hmmm…

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    Post by U Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:00 pm

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:Mr. Dolan was very excited about this.

    Dropping all the big names.

    They want to get to the center of the Labyrinth.

    When they get there, they will find a smelly 🐐 staring back at them.



    The guests name is Omegapoint.

    That correlates with Dan on our very own OMF.

    Ron is down at Buenos Aires and is making different stops so the chicken says.

    They are hunting the Aviary.

    This one definitely slapped for sure
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    Post by U Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:14 pm

    John Alexander is a problem btw

    Nasty little Penguin

    MILAB ENFORCER BULLDOG EXTRAORDINAIRE!

    With those beady little eyes.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 19, 2022 2:40 pm

    U wrote:John Alexander is a problem btw

    Nasty little Penguin

    MILAB ENFORCER BULLDOG EXTRAORDINAIRE!

    With those beady little eyes.

    Jack says Richard Doty is for real and if you don’t see that you’re dumb or a liar.

    Tough to say.

    Jack really doesn’t have any reason to lie unless they pay him to do so.

    Jack is the kind of guy who would take that money.

    He’s a dick.

    Why is being a dick an insult by the way Wink
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    Post by U Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:22 pm

    Being a dick is not an insult if you're a big swingin one
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    Post by 99 Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:18 pm

    Dan really didn't have anything bad to say about Doty, after Doty claimed to have cleaned up his act.

    But my view is that he's not to be trusted.

    Nevertheless, I'll still hear what he has to say, just for the heck of it I guess.

    ...and because there's always the chance that he'll slip up and say something that's true outside of him rambling on "disclosing" information those who are familiar with UFO history already know.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:39 am

    Considering how much high security there is around our weapons systems and research, why would they let someone speak out?

    Seems to me because the whole UFO Disclosure thing is a cover and they don’t care if someone speaks about that and makes up what they want or feeds the public info as the real program is covered.

    If there were public folks really sharing above top secret info, think they would let them keep walking around?

    But then again, being public, it would be suspicious if they just disappear someone.

    Look what they did to Dan!

    They could give them cancer or a heart attack I guess or suicide them.

    It seems they love to use child porn to discredit also.

    One needs to consider folks on sites like OMF and in the UFO community are intelligence agents collecting information.

    It is nice to be smelly 🐐 beholden to no muppet.

    What I know and am involved in is above all secrets.

    And I am spillin the beans.

    They have no real power.

    This world is an illusion.

    Of course you only have my word on that.

    Some of these folks are double and triple agents I’m sure, some are famous.

    America is mostly an evil force in the world.

    No one is without blame in the intelligence world.

    It’s a dark nasty business.

    You have to beat the lowest in the world by being lower.

    I get it.

    Just not anything I would ever be involved in.

    No thanks.

    Better to just be a philosopher 🐐 , mystic 🧙‍� and poet.

    Anyone with any influence is going to be manipulated and targeted, you can bet that.
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    Post by U Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:38 am

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    Instead of looking at the screen, what I want to do is to turn around and look the other way. When we look the other way what we see is a little hole at the top of the wall with some light coming out. That's where I want to go. I want to steal the key to the projectionist's booth, and then, when everybody has gone home, I want to break in.

    Jacques Vallée


    Same

    dude

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:57 am

    I have that key in my hand.

    I turned it and opened the door.

    It’s a fine show, enjoy it.

    You might not be able to see it, but Jacques is not a man of peace.

    Find your own way.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:13 am

    After my brief tour of the Disclosure world, I see they are lost in Hell.

    There is nothing there.

    Just emptiness and longing.

    Any one of them could immediately solve the riddle.

    They would then cease leading others nowhere and would become what they are completely.

    No more longing or seeking.

    I see no real light here.

    There is just desire.

    There are no guides.

    The guides know better.

    They could follow those lights to self knowledge.

    That’s what the whole show is about.

    It’s not a dead end per se, there are no dead ends.

    But when you get the message, you can hang up the phone.
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    Post by 99 Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:56 pm

    I'm surprised you even started up this thread Chivo but I'm not surprised at your summary and conclusions on this topic thus far.

    But thanks for posting that Vallée interview. I'm watching it now.

    If I find out anything new in it that didn't know before, I'll comment on it later.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:06 am

    Yep, I think they are all blind muppets chasing lights in the sky, paranoid and hopelessly longing for answers they already have access to.

    Blind leading the blind.

    The ultimate disclosure is still, know thyself.

    I think Mr. Upton is mostly right on.

    You have to use your metaphysics.





    Not a popular view, which only makes my synopsis stronger.

    He's a Sufi and beat poet.

    The poets know better than the muppets.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:11 pm

    Just caught a recent Grant Cameron YouTube.

    Oh boy.

    Featuring a channeler talking to aliens.

    I think they are having some fun with Grant.

    Sorry, but no evidence = bullshit in my book.

    Crayon drawings 🖍️ just aren’t going to do it Wink

    You can’t really take anyone else’s word on anything really.

    Mine included.

    One has to venture out and test what they find.

    They are just making a lot of this up in the UFO community.

    Fun fun.

    Knowledge like this is useless imo.

    How to live and be the best you can be is real knowledge and where the meaning of this is.

    Applying that knowledge and becoming wise is the real gold.

    It’s your immediate evidence.

    The logos is immanent.

    Using your reason to discern nonsense is a key skill.

    Keep at it muppets.
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    Post by Mr. Janus Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:11 am

    I miss when Grant Cameron covered cool stuff like in that interview when Dan told him they were sending actuators to Trump Tower.


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    Post by Mr. Janus Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:56 pm

    - We will cover the main players.
    - We will explore propaganda and social engineering and its relation to the psychology of Disclosure.
    - We will cover the CORE story.
    - We will briefly summarize what has happened to date and provide a rough timeline.
    - We will consider the metaphysical aspects of Disclosure.
    - We will cover what Know Thyself means, my personal view of real Disclosure.
    - We will consider Disclosure as a new religion as Jacques Valle and other smart folks have hypothesized.
    - We will consider whether Disclosure is a bunch of aggregated PsyOps.
    - We will explore Dan’s connection to the topic.


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