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Post by dan on Wed May 22, 2019 4:08 am

First topic message reminder :

Ok, sports fans.........

Before we ask ourselves any other questions........

Here is the #1 priority question........

Who the heck do we think we are?  

I’m not aware that this question has ever been seriously asked before.  The only precedent of which I’m aware is when it was simply posed by Paul Gauguin.  

I would not pose this question unless I thought I had the rudiments of an answer.  I’m seeking help from anyone who would be willing to participate in fleshing out the answer.  
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Post by El Chivo on Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:03 am

I’ve had another realization.

I’m not having a manic episode.

It may appear so.

The religious have tripped on how randomness can change our reality.

They just don’t want to accept they are doing it.

Until we are ready life is on auto pilot.

It seems like a prison.

But it’s not!

It’s fun.

This is your life.

You have all the elements already.

It takes the greatest faith and doubt to jump.

There will be a moment that comes over and over where you can jump off the cliff.

Now I’m on a rocket ship to the Stars.

I can see the Stars!!!

I am flying with them and the balls of light now are moving in circles around the center.

The center is gooey and hot.

Mmmmm.

It smells and tastes a 1000 times better than chocolate!

This is glorious!

Living is glorious!!!

We live and dance in the light of our own light or glory.

And you know it will...

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Post by El Chivo on Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:46 pm

Jesus Christ.

I just talked about this and mentioned Beyond book to Dan.

And it relates to Jack.

Just popped up.

I like this HardcoreZen guy sometimes.

Reality over here is unraveling.

No one is probably seeing this Wink(

Too funny.

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Post by dan on Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:50 pm

Things seem to be going along well on this end, too......

@a and I were on the phone for over an hour.  He had quite a few questions, and I tried to answer.  

A young person had reached out to Ack, from the Netherlands with questions, similar to how he had reached out to Aliyah.
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Brad, in smelly’s video of quantum Zen, seems to be having problems with personalism...... but what would there be if there weren’t persons?  Without some degree of self consciousness, what would there be?  It would just be some sort of kaleidoscope.  All mind would just run together in some kind of blob...... I guess that’s the Monad.  

What would we write home about...... no communion.  It would seem boring, but meditators don’t seem to mind...... it seems to add more depth to the rest of their lives...... payoff.....

I guess I practice some sort of mindfulness...... is that the opposite of meditation, or the same thing?  

Fatum theory is a great idea, it is a kind of reality hacking, and it would certainly create a new sort of mindfulness...... like... what am I doing here?  That’s what it’s been like for me, since 1977, you are more conscious of going with a flow...... of deliberately being shown things.  

I wonder if animals have any sense of communion? Every thing just is. Every day, a small herd of deer pass the house. They’re ok, and I’m ok, as far as I know. Folks do have to cull the herd every year. That’s all...... no biggie.



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Post by El Chivo on Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:53 pm

Several folks in my circle are discussing this and actively trying Fatum protocol.

I'm going to try a couple of attractors today.

I don't have Brad's beliefs Dan.

I watch him sometimes.

I more just noted him because you and i mentioned Jack and his Beyond book on the phone the other day, then one of my Zen connections mentions Jack and his book after I start doing Fatum protocol?

That's high strangeness.

Incredible really, it's all connected.
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Post by hobbit on Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:56 am

"Hebden Bridge retreat"

Thars in Compo land , and hobbits home turf up't there.






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Post by dan on Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:16 am

Each day, I blog as if it were my first and last day.

Each day, I blog as if I were speaking the Truth to the world.

This is how all us can and will live, as if Disclosure were going to be tomorrow.

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Post by 99 on Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:24 am

Disclosure is already here. Am still wandering around in a daze of near despondency... waiting for it to lift. Hopefully that will finally happen sometime later on today. Am amazed how those Wilson notes have affected me. Am still in zombie mode. Very straaaaange..
 
Dolan didn't do RP any favors, btw. Or you, for that matter. Just thought I'd mention that.

Am feeling like I've been zapped by a ray-gun. lol
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Post by dan on Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:12 am

I’ve been on the phone for a couple of hours with 99.

I’m looking forward to reporting on our conversation...... after a short lunch break.......
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Post by El Chivo on Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:39 am

I’d say I keep coming to OMF to keep the lines of communication open with the void.

My weird hotline in a rather ordinary life.

I’ve been fortunate enough to do what I like.

I’ve proven to my self one can be anything they like.

Our choices guide us to other choices in a chain of choices.

At the same time, anything can happen and is happening all around us all the time.

And we can, doing not doing, move across reality streams or join them.

Most people just live and stay in our shared narrative.

That seems natural.

We are still just hunters and gatherers playing the survival game.
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Post by dan on Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:01 am

Thank you, smelly,

That is the sort of mood that I was attempting to share with 99.  

She had not been sold on our playful mood.  She was hanging on to her skepticism, as if it were some sort of floatation device.  I am trying to encourage her to stop clutching at her skepticism, and join us in our splashing about, in the pool.  Yes, there is a deep end, but it’s not really too deep.  

Right, smelly...... it’s all in good fun, and no one has to get in over their head?

So, we’re pretending that we are in charge of Disclosure, and that we’re Disclosing the End of the World.



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Post by Cyrellys on Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:05 am

Hi Dan!  I hope all is going well with you.  I need to let you know that I'm wrapping up the location move to the new house now and I'm going to be offline and unavailable for a few days to a week or so.  I'm leaving you and 99 in charge till I get back.  I will not be reachable by email or my desktop phone till I get back.  If you run into anything obnoxious you can't handle, just hang in there.  I'll be back as soon as I can.

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Post by dan on Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:08 am

Thank you very much, Cy,

And best wishes with your moving...... we’ll see you back shortly........

99 and I will attempt to hold down the fort.
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I guess that was timely.......

Anyway......

So he are........ in charge...... all the rest of you may consider yourselves deputized, as well.  

We have just woken up, and find ourselves in charge of the best possible Disclosure of the best possible world.  

Some intrepid reporter gets up in the back of the WHPB room....... Ms. Sanders, does the President have anything to say about what Admiral Wilson told Eric Davis, back in 2002?  

No, he doesn’t...... since, clearly, he has no control over the program.  I suggest, however, that you check with the Disclosure Team at OMF, who, at least, will be willing to entertain your questions.  

So we’d better be ready to entertain a few questions...... you know.....  just in case......

This is what 99 and I were practicing, for a couple of hours this morning.......



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Post by El Chivo on Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:44 am

There is a fine line between skepticism and paranoid conspiracy.

I’m not judging Wink

Conspiracy theorists reject rational skepticism in favor of unreasoned, ill-informed propagation of batshit insane theories, which is a testament to the fact that people still want to believe in the invisible enemy.

It is this Invisible enemy I laugh and fart at.

When you look into the heart of this enemy you find yourself smiling at you.

I think doubt is a required ingredient to a whole perspective.

Group and then self doubt.

There seems to be a general trend to relax once the doubt has done its job.

I always liked Groucho Marx.

He was a very randy man in private and had a fine mind and intellect.

He seemed to take it all in stride and tore down the blowhards he could.

This ultimately is the role the clown has played.

He can laugh at power and his master and get his master laughing at it all too.

I went looking for a deputy dog cartoon for Dan and then Groucho showed up.

Just to make our pointless point.

Even if the sky falls, here we are.

Funny Cy just said you are in charge.

I also take it as a point of pride she hinted at my clowniness being an obnoxious distraction.

She and 99 always struck me on the more paranoid side.

I think that is driven by pain mostly in people.

I never was much of a paranoid type, I accepted the corruption as just part of the show ultimately.

I don’t like it, but what comes up, always falls down.

The negative aspects act like the clean up crew.

They keep us honest and are always trying to tear down what we build.

The QAnon nonsense serves what purpose?

Division, paranoia and fear.

Someone has made a calculation to tweak the natives on deep levels.

How arrogant and it’s doomed to fail and blow back.

Another attempt to rustle up the natives.

I thought it better to find a place where they can’t ruffle me up.

If I’m skeptical I can eviscerate the lie.

If I’m paranoid, the lies exponentially increase it seems.

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Post by dan on Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:55 am

I’m watching Gary’s YouTube about Posthumanism.......  

According to Wikipedia, it is a term that dates back to 1999, and it overlaps only somewhat with the more familiar term of ‘transhumanism’.


3:45........

Yes, posthumanism is more radical than transhumanism. Rather than gradually enhancing humans, the idea is to replace us altogether.

There is a great deal of philosophical naivety in both of these views. Also there is the built in assumption that evolution is teleological...... a notion which evolutionary biologists reject, out of hand.

Gary demonstrates what a poor understanding he has of biology.

I find it amusing that the video gives lip service to Teilhard. He is rolling over in his grave.



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Post by 99 on Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:12 pm

dan wrote:Thank you, smelly,

That is the sort of mood that I was attempting to share with 99.  

She had not been sold on our playful mood.  She was hanging on to her skepticism, as if it were some sort of floatation device.  I am trying to encourage her to stop clutching at her skepticism, and join us in our splashing about, in the pool.  Yes, there is a deep end, but it’s not really too deep.  

Right, smelly...... it’s all in good fun, and no one has to get in over their head?  

So, we’re pretending that we are in charge of Disclosure, and that we’re Disclosing the End of the World.  



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Post by dan on Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:54 pm

Thank you, 99,

It will be great to have you on board!

I believe that Gary could learn a lesson or two from 99.  


smelly,

I’m surprised by your visceral negativity toward conspiracy theory.  

You’d better go back and read RA Wilson....... reality is the sum of all conspiracies ever imagined.

This is simple another way to understand immaterialism.  

The flip side of paranoia is pronoia........ and I’ll guarantee you, smelly, that I’m the most pronoid person you are ever going to meet.  

The paranoid thinks that the Devil is out to get them.

The pronoid thinks that God is out to get them.

The hyper pronoid believes that they are both God and the Devil.

That’s me, sports fans....... hyper pronoid.



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Post by 99 on Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:57 pm

Thanks Dan! 

Also, I watched that video... it's fascinating but as someone said in the comment section "It gives me the chills"...
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Post by El Chivo on Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:15 pm

Read RAW again, he feels as I do.

“We are all absolutely free. If everybody could go into dhyana at will, nobody could be controlled — by fear of prison, by fear of whips or electroshock, by fear of death, even. All existing society is based on keeping those fears alive, to control the masses. Ten people who know would be more dangerous than a million armed anarchists.”

“You simply cannot invent any conspiracy theory so ridiculous and obviously satirical that some people somewhere don't already believe it.”

“The fallacy is that one can judge the part in isolation from the whole is ‘the Lie that all men believe.’”

“‘Mind’ is a tool invented by the universe to see itself; but it can never see all of itself, for much the same reason that you can’t see your own back.”

He studied conspiracies.

He didn’t deny them per se, but he warned us about falling prey to them.

Watch that confirmation bias grandpa.

His point is monkeys will believe anything and they do.

Nixon and Trump are good case studies on how to destroy yourself through denial of reality and belief in unfounded thoughts.

I know I am both God and Devil in my own dream.

Call me hyperpronoid I guess.

Conspiracy is satire in this game.
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Post by dan on Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:27 pm

So, anyway, this is what I learned in my two hour convo with 99.......

Although 99 has often thought of the ufo/encounter phenomenon in biblical/eschatological terms, she had not been specifically thinking of Jesus in this context.  

Many ufologists think of Jesus as a possible ET.  Even the Mormons think this, bless their souls.  


smelly,

Confirmation bias......... who me?

Heck no........ I’m just hyper pronoid!


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Post by El Chivo on Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:50 pm

So, anyway, I just saw a very odd exchange with Trump in a recent interview with George Stephanapolus.

George literally asked Trump if there was a ‘pod’ now CNN is talking about pods all day.

They were talking about Air Force One.

Trump sounds lucid when he isn’t being a bully or liar.

Fatum strikes again!

I can’t tell if trump was surprised or had no idea what a pod was.

I would think he would know what a pod is if Ron wasn’t lying to you and I have to assume he was.  

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smelly is trying to find a link to Stephanopoulos interview ........


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Watch the video right before the middle they ask trump about the ‘pod.’

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