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Post by dan on Wed May 22, 2019 4:08 am

First topic message reminder :

Ok, sports fans.........

Before we ask ourselves any other questions........

Here is the #1 priority question........

Who the heck do we think we are?  

I’m not aware that this question has ever been seriously asked before.  The only precedent of which I’m aware is when it was simply posed by Paul Gauguin.  

I would not pose this question unless I thought I had the rudiments of an answer.  I’m seeking help from anyone who would be willing to participate in fleshing out the answer.  
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(The continuation of this ‘topic post’ is the no. 3 post (on the first page https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t361-who-do-we-think-we-are ) of this topic.....)


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Post by hobbit on Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:25 am

A good friend of mine ...David Barclay wrote a book called unity.

He was taken from a mine shaft deep down in Canada into a craft, and shown how it operated, without any words been said.
The craft was intercepted by F16s and the pilot of one suddenly found himself sat at Davids side, and they observed the F16 go splosh into the Atlantic.

The pilot had a sudden need for a toilet, and they both found themselves at the side of a canal in Paris.

They were arrested by gendarms and then David suddenly was back in the mine some days later, much to the search parties amazement.


No moving parts were observed.....it's what You move, as such that displaces the craft , the craft is within it's own field.


I struggle enough to read, and unity defied all current physics, but what I gleaned made perfect sense to Me.


https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=David_Barclay



http://u2.lege.net/projectunity1.html

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Post by hobbit on Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:36 am

Hmmmm,
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2019/notre/notre2019a.html?fbclid=IwAR3ofdT5qjd0cthMKzl8OgIjkd6b7tj3Ptz1rgU0bLHvuXbgCqPIwAQTVrk

Right next to a giant cross.
https://saucerscience.blogspot.com/2007/03/gravity-anti-gravity.html






http://lege.net/The_Casing_Theory/

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Post by dan on Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:00 am

hobbit, Ack and 99 and Gary,

There are only five of us left participating in this thread, and Ack and I are the only ones who try to acknowledge the topic, which is supposed to be about who we think we are...... as persons.

But, that having been said, I am glad that hobbit shared with us his personal connection with David B...... another indication of the small world aspect of the phenomena.




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Post by hobbit on Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:09 am

It's very clear that unless You fully comprehend nature, You cannot interact with.

What We are is just the same as the planet is, and by understanding how the planet is created and sustained reveals exactly what We are.

No man made god "made it" is any use at all.


it is all about FIELD and if You look at galaxies they have a so called black hole.
That is a reverse location where there will be nil gravity, same as You, same with the planet.


Our route to saving this planet from the rape of greed based explosive thinking, is to reveal the TRUE nature.


Not to think an invented jesus will be our saviour.


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Post by hobbit on Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:13 am

dan wrote:hobbit, Ack and 99 and Gary,

There are only five of us left participating in this thread, and Ack and I are the only ones who try to acknowledge the topic, which is supposed to be about who we think we are...... as persons.

But, that having been said, I am glad that hobbit shared with us his personal connection with David B...... another indication of the small world aspect of the phenomena.  




(cont.......)

I recognised David, and knew He was correct, I already had worked out how it all operates , and understood the ridicule He faced.

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Post by hobbit on Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:16 pm

Ack wrote:What, UFOs?

Maybe the better question is where would god send them from?

Kolob?

I don't think so.

We are children of god, therefore, it would be reasonable to assume god would want a personal relationship with his/her children.

This is where the Mormon's, and any other big worlder's, big world hypothesis breaks down.

Personalism and a big world view do not cohere. Without coherence we have no truth. Coherence is the cornerstone of the BPWH.


"We are children of god"= indoctrination.

You're a BELIEVER in what You have been indoctrinated with.


gravity = time.
time = gravity.


It's the net rate of implosion over outrush of any field system.

Ours on earth is 55/34.

The 21 is utilised in compression into creation.

There is no god, Your limited field memory has been filled with information it is trying to PROVE is correct, Your EGO ( field) is the castle walls You are king of, it is full of god indoctrination, and will fight ( kill ) to be correct.

Hence BELIEVERS are easy to manipulate, to pit against alternate BELIEVERS .

Try and THINK without any beliefs.

Einstein couldn't.


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Post by hobbit on Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:43 pm

Ack wrote:And what do you believe Hobbit?

Last time we checked, you said "we are all One...consciousness"

I would simply restate that by saying we are all God.

Is that such a far stretch?

Personally, I don't think it is.

I do, You are attributing creation to some super being ( who made god?) which is a cop out.

I keep been told that I must respect others beliefs....why?

I pity those who rely on an invented fictional being, like superman.

BELIEVERS demand that they are correct.


You will never realise how universe operates whilst thinking it belongs to some god, it's all about control of the sheep.

It's similar to people who smoke, they are ADDICTED , and as I have never smoked anything , I pity them.


Take responsibility for Yourself, stop been addicted to fictional things that make You feel good.


Wake up, Your been brainwashed.



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Post by hobbit on Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:56 pm

Ack wrote:Well, what do you do when you have a dirty brain?

You have to wash it.

Mine was washed by the J-guy. Is there anything better to wash a dirty brain with?

If you have a better alternative method of washing that is coherent AND personal, please share.

If you don't believe in persons than you might as well just bark like a dog or be silent like a tree, don't you think?

Smelly, for now, has taken the latter approach.


I do prefer dogs and trees, and as my dog can talk without words, and as a tree has spoken to me with words, yes they are far more agreeable than humans.

It's not a case of not believing in persons, it's what persons BELIEVE in, they have been mass indoctrinated.

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Can someone please confirm that this is....

THE OPEN MINDS FORUM ????

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Post by dan on Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:19 pm

Thank you, Ack,

Yes, I do believe that hobbit has gotten a bit agitated.

Can we all slow down and take a deep breath......?


hobbit needs to be clear about what he is wishing for.....

All I’m doing is wishing for the best possible world.  

hobbit may well be correct...... the best possible world might well be godless.  

There is no question that religion has been responsible for a great deal of evil in the world.  

It is natural to imagine that we would be better off without any religion at all.

Let’s think about that.......

hobbit has no religion, he’s just telling it like it is. Why can’t we be more like hobbit...... peaceful world?



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Post by dan on Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:35 pm

Ack,

Let’s start out with an open mind, as hobbit has suggested.  

When things get acrimonious........ we just take a deep breath, and start all over again, with our minds being blank slates.  That may not be possible, but, at least, we can pretend that it is, for the sake of discussion.  

We may have no right even to try to imagine a best possible world.  

Already, just with the word ‘best’ we may be loading the dice.  

‘Best’ is a complicated concept, requiring sapience.  Maybe the world would be better off without any sapience?  

Many thoughtful observers are saying the world would have been much better off without humans, for.  

Intelligence may simply be another one of many evolutionary dead ends.  

Should we even have evolution of Nature?

We can easily imagine such worlds. In fact, there is no indication life exists anywhere else.



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Post by dan on Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:50 pm

Ack,

Ok, smarty, but you’re getting ahead of the game........

We’re trying to slow down.  Remember, we have all the time in the world.......

The simple word ‘better’ is philosophically loaded....... well, how easy it is to forget that every word is philosophically loaded.  

We don’t know that hobbit is ready to go there, yet.

Going back to a blank slate might take some real effort, and may not even be logically possible.  

It does seem that hobbit has ridden off into the sunset, too.

I might take a little break, myself........  
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At one point we were asking ourselves....... why is there something rather than nothing?  

I never even thought to ask whether something is necessarily better than nothing.  Clearly it is not...... necessarily.  I bet that many folks have seriously asked themselves this question...... maybe I would be better off, not having been born.  Maybe the world could ask itself the same question.  

I doubt that hobbit has ever even considered such questions, but I could easily be wrong.  

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Post by GSB/SSR on Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:17 pm

Perhaps, given the recent revelations by the NAVY, we should turn this topic on its head and ask, "Who do THEY think they are?" ;-)


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