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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed May 22, 2019 4:08 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, sports fans.........

    Before we ask ourselves any other questions........

    Here is the #1 priority question........

    Who the heck do we think we are?  

    I’m not aware that this question has ever been seriously asked before.  The only precedent of which I’m aware is when it was simply posed by Paul Gauguin.  

    I would not pose this question unless I thought I had the rudiments of an answer.  I’m seeking help from anyone who would be willing to participate in fleshing out the answer.  
    ..........

    (The continuation of this ‘topic post’ is the no. 3 post (on the first page https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t361-who-do-we-think-we-are ) of this topic.....)


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed May 29, 2019 5:58 pm

    When I say nothing, it is a pointer to everything.

    I forget you have not translated Zen terminology probably and realized all words about it are riddles.

    Dan wrote:But, I think you’d agree that even nothing, or especially nothing, has an infinite potential.

    Of course.

    How else could we individuate if we were not drawing on our infinite reserve of potential?

    I simply assign no god or person to this.

    Tao or IT will suffice for the rest of my life.

    But of course we are the living walking talking breathing expressions of IT, ion its myriad aspects.

    The Tao is maybe mystical, which is why we don't talk about it or try to understand it.

    We understand by knowing our selves and expanding our lives based on the raw ingredients provided.

    This may be all of it.

    This is why I say ordinary.

    I can't explain.

    You shouldn't take me literally.

    I use hints or encoded language sometimes to throw you off and make you look for yourself.

    Someone seeking will look into themselves and not take anyone else's words for this.

    But I am finding most just stop and settle for others' words.

    No no, go further, see your simple life as the crux of cosmos.

    I am playing with realization here, it plays with us.

    I am not lying.

    I have checked myself against several masters.

    They all say the same thing.

    Be glad I came to my realization naturally, it was the better way.

    I like the Zen style of constantly trying to push each other off balance.

    This practice is critical and I practice it here.

    Why?

    Because it's so easy to be distracted.

    What worked for me, worked for me.

    Something does happen here if you pay attention, YOU!

    If you can catch the slight of hand at work here in and around you, something amazing will happen.

    You may even meet the Trickster.

    But that's all nonsense really.

    Still, it's very fun to communicate with Consciousness directly, whether it's lying to me or not, it accommodated my deepest desire to seek and know and turned me back into my self.

    It's only a mirror and I mirror it.

    What appears is anyone's guess really.

    But fuck, here we all are, is that not the most profound statement provable to all about Being?

    One only, incredibly, needs to look for themselves.

    That's all.

    What you settle on is up to you and fate after you spin the wheel.

    But you are missing your life if you don't chuck what you believe and fear and spin that wheel, at least try to set it aside and try other things.

    You will find all things reflect the same thing.

    YOU!

    Ha!

    The damndest thing to be alive.

    Anyone sure of it and what direction it's heading is insane in my book.

    Like, please, you lying muppet is my thought, you have no awareness even of yourself here and they want to talk about Demiurges and Gods.

    Nonsense, you are here, we can dispense with the distracting language if we would really like to get to IT.

    I am sure of nothing other than this image being here.

    I'll keep pushing, you can ignore me or kick me off, but that would be stupid of you and only more evidence you only like to hear what your itching ears want to here.

    This won't be summed up in a few sentences or a word even.

    If you have glimpsed it, YOU, how ever could there be enough words?

    This is what being here is.

    And if you don't know what I mean, find someone else to show you you trust who might know 'nothin'.

    You will know who to talk to.

    But will you listen?

    Do you really know what you think you know?

    I bet you don't.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed May 29, 2019 6:47 pm

    I would retire the word truth. Our English doesn’t point here.

    Shakespeare’s does.

    English is a trap itself.

    If you haven’t doubted all of it, what have you realized?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed May 29, 2019 10:49 pm

    I hope I’m not bugging you grand pa.

    I’m enjoying seeing what you are about.

    You will be my grand pa, won’t you?

    I don’t require any care or feeding.

    Bahahaha

    Git on with your dumb Disclosure.

    The Demiturd doesn’t care.

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    Post by hobbit Thu May 30, 2019 12:45 am

    Dan,

    http://www.svpvril.com/Cosmology/cosunity1.html

    You appear desperate to class others into groups of ISMs.

    I may look with favour at Neoplatonism.

    No god needed, just a system of creation.


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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 6:49 am

    hobbit,

    Thank you very much for this information.  

    Hopefully this will greatly facilitate our communication, going forward.  


    smelly and Ack,  

    Pilate famously asked Jesus....... what is the Truth?  Basically, his response was........ Let me get back to you on that, Pontius.  

    Those are my marching orders.  After two millennia, the world is finally ready for the Truth.

    smelly and Ack are not ready....... not yet.  

    But, guys, before we get started, aren’t there any other words you’d like me to dispose of?  

    You’re just getting started, right?  

    Basically, you’d just like everyone to STFU.  Tell me I’m wrong.  

    Yes, the mystics of the world do not want to talk while the flavor lasts. And they wish everyone else would kindly oblige.  

    But....... it’s a pity...... the show goes on.......

    I’m just a little bit smarter than you guys........

    I’m going to have the last word......

    No more talking........?

    Yes, just shouting......... Hallelujah......!  
    Well, maybe there's a God above
    But all I've ever learned from love
    Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew ya
    And it's not a cry that you hear at night
    It's not somebody who's seen the light
    It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah
    Hallelujah, Hallelujah


    10:50.........

    Yes, then we can retire the Truth........ everything will be True.  

    There will be no more lies and illusions.  Only the Truth will be able to shine through.  It will be blinding....... better bring your Sun glasses.  

    Or...... maybe that’s what smelly has been trying to tell us..... all along....... Hallelujah......!



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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 8:02 am

    Ack,

    You’re not wrong.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 8:17 am

    Grand Pa, the only thing clear is you aren’t ready to know your self.
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 8:20 am

    smelly,

    I’m God, and so are you. That’s the Truth, and you know it.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 8:21 am

    Truth is a horrible delusional muppet word and all the false hopes attached to it are bullshitz.

    Nuff said.
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 8:24 am

    Ok, then, it’s not the Truth....... it’s just a damn fact.
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    Apparent facts.
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 8:39 am

    Appearances are all we got, Jack Ass.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 8:43 am

    We can see through our cultural trance, belief systems and limitations.

    We can see who we really are.

    You won’t use words.

    You don’t know what god is.

    You are playing a loose game grand pa.

    Sloppy and lazy, nothing new.

    Are you prepared to accept almost everything you have said is bullshit gramps?

    I have spared nothing.

    I have put every fact to the sword and I’m still here.
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 8:46 am

    It’s all bullshit except that you and I are God.
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 8:57 am

    Oh, and did I forget to say that it’s the best possible bullshit?
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    Gramps just can’t handle we can free ourselves from thought.
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