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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed May 22, 2019 4:08 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, sports fans.........

    Before we ask ourselves any other questions........

    Here is the #1 priority question........

    Who the heck do we think we are?  

    I’m not aware that this question has ever been seriously asked before.  The only precedent of which I’m aware is when it was simply posed by Paul Gauguin.  

    I would not pose this question unless I thought I had the rudiments of an answer.  I’m seeking help from anyone who would be willing to participate in fleshing out the answer.  
    ..........

    (The continuation of this ‘topic post’ is the no. 3 post (on the first page https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t361-who-do-we-think-we-are ) of this topic.....)


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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 9:02 am

    Ok, smelly,

    Please tell us what it’s like........ not thinking......

    I mean...... how did you know when stopped thinking...... and when was that?


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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 9:06 am

    Who, me?  

    I’m free of the Logos, because I’m God.

    When logic and proportion fall sloppy dead.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 9:07 am

    The beginning of thinking is desire.

    We just saw being was always before thinking.

    That awareness has been offered to each generation.

    But we aren’t ready to accept our thinking is not what we are.
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 9:10 am

    Are you ready, smelly?  

    And who do you mean..... we...... Kimosabe?

    I accept that God is not about thinking.  God is about being.  

    God made up the Logos, just to keep us amused...... and to keep us _thinking_ that we’re separate.



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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 9:15 am

    Ack,

    Wrongo.

    Thinking, as smelly says, is parasitical upon being.


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    I am a blind donkey Wink

    Is God amused?
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 9:21 am

    smelly,

    God is always amused....... even by Vegas.

    And maybe that’s what happened to me in 1977...... I stopped thinking.  I didn’t realize it until now.

    I just pretend.
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 9:42 am

    I’m beginning to remember, quite distinctly, how I stopped thinking, now that you mention it.......

    Actually, it was 1966....... I had a nervous breakdown in graduate school.  

    I realized that I could no longer discipline my thoughts.  Consciously, I thought of myself as becoming an existentialist.......

    I moved to California, but then I tied up my boat in Idaho...... day after day, it’s slipping away......

    I remember that very distinctly.   smelly’s been beating me over the head these last three years...... he didn’t realize, and I’d forgotten, that I stopped thinking in 1966.  

    How do you like them apples, smelly?  

    Not thinking can get all of us into a whole lot of trouble.  

    Most of my ‘thinking’ happens when I’m asleep.   The rest of it is just rationalization...... for the sake of appearances.  

    That was when I realized I couldn’t do physics anymore. The qualifyers....... I signed my name to the blue book. My dad convinced me to take the test in the fall. I did, and walked out the door to the Army recruiter at the Navy Yard in Boston.



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    Thinking...the great monkey governor.

    Interesting grand pa.

    I guess I kind of had a break down after 2 divorces, health breakdown, emotional breakdown about 5 years ago.

    Then I tried psycadelics.

    I think we were triggered by the complexity around us.

    We have overcomplicated being.

    My life was a sham.

    I torched it Wink
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 10:14 am

    Yes, that’s how we become one with god.  

    But you shouldn’t try this at home.  

    You have to be really strung out, first.  

    Many find God at the bottom of a bottle.  I wouldn’t wish that upon a dog.  

    Sophia found me at the bottom of the physics barrel...... ten years later.   She took her darned time.  

    It was Jack Sarfatti who steered me to Sophia.  Jack steered smelly here, if I’m not mistaken.  

    Jack’s world is a small world.



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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 10:25 am

    That’s a darned fact.

    My latest breakdown....... the Princess throwing me under the Bus.

    By now, I _think_ I’ve got the steps down.

    Tell me if I’m wrong.  

    The Princess was cut loose.  She ended up doing billion dollar real estate deals in Dubai, and dodging hotel bombs in Qatar.  Then she decided to settle down...... in the eye of the storm.  

    What’s the matter, smelly?  Has the cat got your tongue?  

    Boy, oh, boy....... did I ever manage to fool smelly....

    Grandpa........ my ass.......!  

    How many more breakdowns can there be?  

    Being thrown under the Bus by the Queen of Heaven....... it would be hard to beat that.  

    Next up.......?  I’m _thinking_ donny gets thrown under the Bus..... I’m just trying to figure out how.....

    There are many obvious ways to do it.  I like subtle.  

    Something that will wake up the deplorables....... it won’t be easy.   But someone already stepped on their nest.  Can’t you hear their angry buzzing?  

    Someone came and moved their honey.  Little Bo Peep has lost her sheep........
    Little Bo Peep began to weep
    And lay down to rest for a while
    She fell fast asleep
    While counting her sheep
    Then dreamt they came home with a smile


    2:30........

    I guess that shut up the muppets for a while.

    Back to hobbit and Plotinus.......




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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 11:28 am

    I’ve already dealt with the Secrets.  I have their number.  They may not have mine.

    donny, very conveniently, has strewn his path with land mines.  We have to step gingerly.

    I’ll be quite happy to let donny step on one of his own mines.  How many mines were redacted in Mueller’s report.  



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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 11:41 am

    That’s the same sort of stuff in Joe’s gyros.  

    I’m taking it with a grain of salt.

    The Princess is the only actuator we really need.
    ..........


    Back to hobbit.......

    hobbit is a Pythagorean, and he doesn’t even know it.

    My teacher at Princeton was Eugene Wigner...... he knew how to take care of Pythagoras.



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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 11:58 am

    Ack,

    Yes, right about now, everyone is running for cover...... especially donny.
    .........

    Yes, back in the early Sixties, Wigner already knew how to take care of Pythagoras and Spinoza.  

    hobbit has never heard of any of them.  

    He was too busy whispering with the cosmic Mind.  He didn’t even know who he was talking to.  Poor innocent hobbit.  


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